Spencer on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart!

Stewart bears the dual traits of being an ignoramous and a coward.

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The mock news format used by him, Colbert, SNL and other "comedy" shows not only excuses both, it celebrates them.

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Stewart wouuldn't know a fact if it bit him on the ass. But, then again, his very job is to excuse those immersed in Fictive Reality from their irresponsibility for accepting it in the first place, so it's not his job to know what's biting him.

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The bite will come when our Jihadi immigrants finally succeed at a mass murder attempt on our soil. I'll betcha a dollar to a doughnut his rationale then will be that Dubya's invasion of Iraq, and America's support of Israel, is the root cause of the mass murder that will surely come.

Duhhh.

I never watch Jon Stewart.

Now that I know he supports the building of mosks at Ground Zero, I never will.

He's so ignorant, so incredibly stupid and ignorant.

If it's possible, I agree with both Jon Stewart and Robert Spencer here on the point about the spreading of Islam.

One common goal of religions is to spread. It's nearly universal. I think it's only natural for people to believe their religion is right and normal and to want to spread it over the earth (even those who have kooky ideas about how this is going to get done, like the Shakers). So I don't think there's anything "wrong" with that desire. We have it too.

But I also agree with Spencer: the real question here is what's in store for non-Muslims when it does.

Hey Alarmed Pig Farmer:

Uh, what are those quotes? From the Koran? Why are you putting them in your posts? Are they supposed to have bearing on the Jon Stewart thing?

If so, the connection is over my head. I have 66:2 as "God has given you absolutions from such oaths. God is your master," all referring to with Mohammed's tryst with a Coptic slave.

So I don't think there's anything "wrong" with that desire. We have it too.

Fair enough, but two critical points that wipe away the equivalency:

1) Normal religions (i.e., real religions) spread themselves through proselytization; Islam spreads itself through the threat of violence, the promise of free money and perverted sex, and actual violence.

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2) What is a Buddhist or a Christian zealot spreading, what it the end product? Compare and contrast that to what Moslem Activists are spreading. Hint: Islam is not so much a religion as an overarching belief system that incorporates military and government administration to include the legal application of Sharia, the ugliest code ever.

It says, "Sorry, videos not currently available in your country" (UK). Pleased I didn't miss anything good.

Uh, what are those quotes? From the Koran? Why are you putting them in your posts? Are they supposed to have bearing on the Jon Stewart thing?

They're citations, usually to the Ko-Ran, or, if so designated, to a Hah-Deeth or to a passage from the sacralized histories of al-Tabari or Ishaq.

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They are meant to help give context to the topic at hand. I do this because, as Spencer and Fitzgerald are wont to say, don't take our word for it, look it up for yourself.

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Of course, outside of the posters at this blog and a few others like it, nobody looks up anything about Islam. And that large benighted population certainly includes a hugely financially successful loser like Jon Stewart.

A loudmouth, this Jon Stewart, but hollow like a tin drum.

What kind of people bother to watch that?

If I would award for comedy, I would give Nancy Pelosi first place with a couple of hundred runner ups...Jon would be right behind funny man Joe Biden...

You don't suppose that Jon is the Jon that posts here do you?
The poster is equally uninformed and comical...

The arrogance of ignorance. Stewart is ignorant of the realities of Islam and can safely assume that most of his viewers are similarly benighted. So he can take dumbass pot-shots without looking like the fool he is to them, and they can take comfort in the rightness of their ignorance because, hey, Jon Stewart thinks so too.

That's what happens when you get not only your news but your perception of reality from other people. Unfortunately, in cases such as Stewart's, you also get paid big bucks so he hasn't a whole lot of incentive to wise up unless it impacts him directly. If that SUV bomb in Times Square a few blocks from his studio had actually gone off and messed up his evening commute he might begin to see things differently.

Stewart's appeal depends on his supposed ability to see through fools, and to expose their folly for others to see. But if he himself is guilty of such folly, and can be seen to be so (it's not hard to set beside his claims what is in Qur'an and Sunnah, and it is not hard, either, to listen to the very different reports on Islam from such witnesses, offering their temoignage, as Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Wafa Sultan and Ibn Warraq.

He's in danger -- he may not sense it -- of losing at least the part of his audience that thinks, if he becommes one more simple-minded apologist for Islam, such as George Bush was, or as Obama, not quite so simple-mindedly and no doubt far more determinedly and programatically and therefore dangerously, has proved to be, for Obama's dreamy belief that he "knows" about Islam because of his absentee father, and because of his three years spent as a child in a most unrepresentative school(Muslims willingly sent their children to be educated with Christians), in a most unrepresentative Muslim city (Jakarta), in a most unrepresentative Muslim country (conquered not through outright military means, but largely through the 15trh century conversion of rulers in Java and Sumatra, and slow demographic conquest), with a considerable and obvious Hindu and Buddhist past (see, for example, Borobudur), and many un-Islamic features (the gamelan, and all music, being one example) of life that soften the full harshness of the Islam practiced, undiluted and not on the rocks, in Arab countries, and in Pakistan and, for now, in the Islamic Republic of Iran -- and all of this at a time when Islam was not on the march world-wide, and Muslims -- appropriating and exploiting Western technological advances - -now determinedly disseminating the full message of Islam, of which so many humble and illiterate Muslims in villages had been partly unaware, but alas are unaware no longer.

Jon Stewart had better sit down and study. He's not an idiot, and still less is Colbert an idiot. They can do it. They need not confirm the worst suspicions of the idiots on the other side, on other channels.

The actual video is here:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-7-2010/wish-you-weren-t-here

Spencer appears at 6:00

I just looked at the tape, and I now must reconsider what I wrote just above, that business about Jon Stewart not being an idiot.

Sorry!

guys chill
he's a great cheap shot artist. I bet you of all the things he despises most, it's islam.

Jon Stewart's half-truths comparing Christianity with Islam were eerily similar to those of the apologists for Islam. Yes, both Christianity and Islam are "evangelical" religions, but only Islam uses coercion. If Jon were fair, he would have read from the Quran, too. To document Islam's evangelical call, he would have to read Surahs 8:40 and 9:29, calling for jihad against non-believers until all worship Allah. While there is no problem with Muslims building mosques in the U.S. in places "where Muslims live," there is a big problem with building a gigantic Ground Zero Mosque where few Muslims live, because that mosque is a political statement, not a place of worship. Finally, there is a big difference between communities adopting local "blue laws" where there is general consensus and having a minority group make demands for public accommodations like foot baths and prayer rooms which are exclusively for their use.

"He singles out for mockery my statement that Islamic law dictates laws for non-believers, whereas other religious traditions don't, and juxtaposes my statement with a number of speakers saying that American law is rooted in the Ten Commandments and the Judeo-Christian tradition."

The fact that some politicos assert that "American law is rooted in the Ten Commandments"

1. does not make it so and

2. even if it were so, that doesn't mean that the Ten Commandments, Judaism, or Christianity include some hidden agenda to rule on Earth. Suppose I started a government based on the Boy Scout Oath - would that all of a sudden indict the BSO as having a political agenda or aspect? Of course not - ditto the Judeo-Christian tradition. It can't be help liable for things that people do and say "in its name."

I do not do Bible interpretation, but those who do generally point to Jesus saying "Render unto Caesar...." as rejecting a statist agenda within Christianity - "My Kingdom is not of this World.." etc etc

To Matt Moros: Sure, all the religons look to spread the word. The difference is Islam looks to spread its word by the sword. Jon Stewart misses this entire point. It's pretty simple actually. According to thereligionofpieces.com there have been over 50,000 deaths due to the koran since 9/11. Anybody who reads his paper (or has access to the internet) has to have a clue on how the 'religon of peace' behaves in the real world.

Jon Stewart is NOT a reporter. So, he can get away with his style. But, he is infuriating. He leaves the most imporant part left unsaid, i.e. spread by the sword. The funny part is he thinks he is spreading the truth. His smugness - with no from the other side there to dispute his word. His liberal bias is always there.

If someone were to have joked, were to have mocked, those who were warning, in every way they could, about the intentions of Adolf Hitler, and about the steady re-arming of Germany (it did not take place unobserved, merely unremarked) from 1934 on, and who relied for some of what they warned on their close reading of Mein Kampf and other documents, and the speeches of Hitler who loved to give them, would we find them funny today? Well, there were such people, and they did mock the alarm coming from various, but isolated, quarters, and the resolution in the late 1930s at the Oxford Union that "We Won't Die For King And Country" did pass overwhelmingly. But we don't honor, nor find funny today, those who thought Hitler was a big joke, and who did not take seriously what he set out, and what those who knew what he was about -- from the political figure in-the-wilderness Winston Churchill, to the writer and journalist Pierre van Paassen -- kept trying to explain, as did many of those who had left Germany in the 1930s, and come to the West, and written books to warn us.

Jon Stewart thinks that because there are various foolish people on Fox -- and there are, ca va sans dire -- that he can allow himself the luxury of not studying Islam, and making the kind of pronouncements that people who had not read "Mein Kampf" and did not take Hitler seriously, or were quick to believe his clever propagandists -- such as Putzi Hanfstaengl, Harvard '09, who so impressed his fellow Harvard classmates.

Islam is not a laughing matter. The murder and mayhem visited upon Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, Confucians in many different parts of the Muslim-ruled lands are not made-up stories. They are real. And real too are the differences between the only two faiths that make universalist claims, Christianity and Islam. Jesus is a very different figure from Muhammad, who to Muslims is al-insan al-kamil, the Perfect Man. And Islam, a collectivist faith, which uncompromisingly divides the world between Believer and Unbeliever, Muslim and Infidel, between Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb, the Domain or House of Islam (where Islam dominates, and Muslims rule) and the House of War, where non-Muslims are still in control of their own destiny, teaches that between the two a state of permanent war (if not always of open warfare) must exist.

There are many things to joke about. But to joke about the Nazi threat, based on a shallowness, or an ignorance, of what the Nazis and Hitler were all about, was not acceptable.

And to assume that those who want to build mosques are "just like" those who want to build churches and synagogues, that mosques fulfill exactly the same function -- but what of the explosives, weapons, false papers, plots hatched, in mosques all over Europe? Can Jon Stewart be unaware of what a mosque really is, aside from a house of worship? Does he, has he bothered, say on some retreat from the heat on a lake in Canada, read what the texts of Islam, or the Western scholars -- the real ones, not the venal Esposito or the clownish Armstrong -- have to say about the ideology of Islam?

Yes, I agree, it's no laughing matter, and he would be hard put to make comedy out of it. But he could try, obliquely, not to attack those who, whether adroitly or not, whether in charmingly liberal terms or not, are attempting to adduce the grim evidence in order to help others who need instruction to flesh out their visceral opposition, and their intuitive suspicion, of those who, for example, somehow can lay their hands on tens of millions of dollars -- it's happened with mosques all over the country, and the inside deals that Muslims working in local governments -- see the Boston Mosque scandal, and above all the vast sums that come from Saudi Arabia -- well, that is not the usual way that churches or synagogues proceed, or Hindu or Buddhist temples for that matter.

Saudi Arabia has spent on mosques, madrasas, campaigns of Da'wa (does Jon Steward know what "campaigns of Da'wa" are all about? Does he know the word "dhimmi"? What about the word "Jizyah"?) nearly $100 billion in the last few decades. In all the years of its existence, the Soviet Union spent about 7-8 billion dollars world-wide.

Thes are things for Jon Stewart to consider.

And he should look at the mosque that so enraged that great liberal, with a much better and more sophisticated sense of humor than Jon Stewart could possibly attain to, Oriana Fallaci, the one now completed, alas, in the heart of the Senese countryside, at Colle Val d'Elsa. To understand what that placement means, imagine a huge mosque, minarets and all, being constructed, say, right beside the rude bridge in Concord? Do you object? You do, don't you. And perhaps you are willing to read and study to find out even more, so as to have your objections well-grounded.

But what about Jon Stewart? Would he think that the objection to a huge mosque-and-minaret complex at the bridge in Concord, next to the house that Emerson lived in, and in which Hawthorne stayed, would reflect only baseless prejudice, or is he willing to concede that in his disgust with many "right-wingers" he has allowed himself to be snookered by the propagandists of the most un-diverse, intolerant, dangerous, right-wing or semi-fascistic ideology currently on world offer -- Islam?

They are no laughing matter.

I have another complaint about Stewart in addition to all the ones already listed here (accurate complaints to be sure) and that is that he is a far cry from a guy like Johnny Carson. Modern society has fallen down in all kinds of ways, what passes for education in our schools these days, what passes for journalism in our times and a general decline in common sense and decency being just a few of them. But what we now have for comedians nowadays and talk show hosts compared to a class act like Carson represents yet another descent. Carson was genuinely funny. Stewart is not. Carson was not smug. Stewart is horribly smug. Carson was gracious. Stewart is not gracious. And Carson was not stupid. Stewart could be a poster boy for stupidity masquerading as sophisticated comedy.

And all those who think Stewart is really cool and with it don't know how deficient they themselves are. I know, I've talked to many folks (and not only kids) who just love Stewart and I have found such people wanting in all kinds of knowledge as well as moral intelligence. They deserve Stewart. Stewart deserves them.

Jon Stewart is an overgrown teenager who thinks he's being witty and clever while he 'owns' his 'stupid' opponents. Hey Jon, its easy to set up straw-man arguments and knock them down, try actually debating real people like Robert Spencer without getting your foot stuck in your mouth. Oh that's right, that is why you won't invite him on because you know you'll lose badly.

I wonder if he's aware that Christians are not allowed to build their houses of worship in muslim countries. Or that in fact they (and other non-muslims) are being persecuted and killed by muslims right now in places like Egypt, Indonesia, Thailand, Iraq and Pakistan.

So when CNN/Fox ask if mosques should be allowed to be built here, its a highly pertinent question. To anyone who has even a rudimentary understanding of Islam, the answer is obviously no.

While listening to an interview recently between Geert Wilders and Michael Savage (Part1 Part2 ), one idea really stuck with me, its something I was aware of but I think they drove the point home, which is that bringing Islam into the West is just the beginning. The real work will come after the muslims become dominant and try to impose Islam on the rest of us.

It will involve destroying our freedoms, making Sharia law the only law of the land, killing gays/atheists/jews/anti-Islamic intellectuals and all those who refuse to convert to Islam, though they may offer dhimmi-status to others and of course turn women into property/chattel of muslim men to treat as wretchedly as they please.

In essence, reforming our societies to their ideal, much as the Communists and Nazis have done when they gained power. So no one should be lulled into a false sense of security and think that Islam will never affect them. On the contrary, like a global pandemic if Islam is left to spread unchecked, it will eventually enslave every man, woman and child on the planet. Which reminds me of this quote:

"There comes a time when all men of good conscience have to spit on their hands, raise the black flag and start slighting throats." -H.L. Mencken

Educate yourself on Islam and its history before opening your mouth Jon Stewart-till then you'll be seen as nothing more than a liberal sock-puppet and a 'useful idiot' for yet another fascist totalitarian ideology (Islam) bent on global domination.

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Jon Stewart is a Jew and likes to defend Muslims. It's a bit ironic, but it's not like we can expect any better from a Keith Olbermann wannabe like him.

*edit in the Mencken quote, it should've been slitting (not slighting)

I watched part of his show ONCE, and commercial clips along the way ...

JS is a clown, so who cares what he thinks about anything.

I actually like Jon Stewart- he's really smart.

But he's so overexaggeratedly PC he refuses to see any difference between Muslims and Xns, and is willing to morally equate the Theocracy of Arabia chopping off people's heads for converting to Xianity with a mean speech by Pat Robertson.

He's not stupid, he's just ignorant when it comes to Islam. That's why I hope Spencer can get on his show.

Of course, Stewart knows he'd get pwned by Spencer so like that'll ever happen. :/

"He singles out for mockery my statement that Islamic law dictates laws for non-believers, whereas other religious traditions don't, and juxtaposes my statement with a number of speakers saying that American law is rooted in the Ten Commandments and the Judeo-Christian tradition."

To be fair, Jon was responding to your specific statement that "no other religion makes laws for other religions". To which he responded "So I guess in your town, I can buy booze on a Sunday to bring to Adam and Steve's wedding reception." He was trying to point out that the Christian majority do essentially make de-facto rules for other religions - even if it's not as overt as many Islamic countries.

Other than that, I think that Jon Stewart very much abhors the Islam you're referring to. In fact, I'll guarantee you that as soon as Islamic communities attempt to implement laws that are overly supremacist (such as the laws of the dhimma) in their American communities, Jon Stewart will be one of the first to point it out. He's not your typical liberal.

For those of you who have read Feisal Abdul Rauf's book "What's Right with Islam", you know how "over the top" he is.

This is from page 111 of the book -

"It also would not be a violation of church-state separation to have a subsidiary entity within the judiciary that employs religious jurists from diverse religious backgrounds to comment on the compliance of certain decisions with their religious views and to provide guidance to their religious communities on how kosher or Shariah compliant these decisions are."

Stewart like others have said is a cheap shot artist and a flaming PC liberal to boot. He doesn't care about the truth on a given topic as long as he can slam the person he doesn't like. And he doesn't like a lot of people - basically anyone to the right of him.

Spencer BTW should consider himself in good company since Lou Dobbs has been the target of his bullshit attacks as well.

Yep, Stewart is one of those open-borders and the hell with citizenship types.

And don't expect him to change either he's got a good scam going feeding a bunch of dimwitted college age liberals bullshit they want to hear.

"The only problem with this is that it's false. No doubt Stewart has never heard of the dhimma, the institutionalized subjugation of non-Muslims and denial of their equality"

So, the plan is to build Mosques, by building so many they will somehow change all the laws, then the Muslim's will take over all our government offices, then make all non-Muslim people 2nd class citizens and they will have to pay more? That makes as much sense as the birther movement.

LOL , Jon Stewart is so funny. He is the man. Well I am glad to see his point of view. Truth is the truth right.

Stewart is a fart in the hurricane.

Jon Stewart is intelligent, incisive and usually hilarious. But that doesn't mean that I always agree with him. While he does make serious comments sometimes, "The Daily Show" is primarily a comedy show and proves it every night when they lapse into sophomoric antics simply to make people laugh.

I found Wednesday's night show to be disturbing tho when I saw that segment that started off by mocking the dismay of Conservatives and others to NASA being used for Muslim outreach, continued with mocking people's dismay at mega-mosques being built, and ended with Stewart's trying to show that they are supposedly just like Christians. (By the way, when did this 'Xtians' thing start?)

The whole segment bothered me so much, I had to re-watch it on Thursday! I wanted to hear his argument again so I could analyze it and see where or if he's wrong. I know from past experience that I sometimes learn more from those I disagree with than those I agree with. I first learned that method from John Stuart Mill and have tried to incorporate it into my thinking thru-out the years because it works either to refine your arguments on behalf of what you believe, or possibly serve to teach you that you are wrong.

Jon Stewart's viewpoint is rather mainstream for not only Liberals, but probably most Americans. Hopefully, being criticized about this segment will teach him something. :-)

Robert, there is no better compliment than to be singled out for criticism by Jon Stewart. This is further proof that you are getting to the left and that Islam and the left are joined at the hip.

I wish somebody would ask Jon Stewaet why there are no Daily Shows in the Islamic world criticizing Islam for not allowing churches or synagogues. Wait a minute, That was the Ali Show and Ali don't have his tongue anymore.

This guy is a lightweight simpleton, and so are the sheepals who laugh along with him. Now you know the base that elected the Bama.

It's great watching the Spencerans rush to find a way to defend their hero from the shitting that the magnificent Stewart placed on Spencer's head.