Ali Sina: Pakistan and Legalized Religious Persecution

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Pakistan and Legalized Religious Persecution
by Ali Sina

Imagine one evening you hear a knock on the door. When you open it, a group of armed men with police uniforms enter your house, beat you and handcuff you. Your wife and children are terrorized, but they are told to shut up or they too will be beaten.

Thoughts rush to your mind. You try to figure out what did you do to deserve this treatment. You have been an upright citizen all your life. In fact you have been a human rights activist and have received an award for your services. You have been a respected speaker. Could all this be a mistake?

You ask the officers about the charges. Their response sends chill down your spine. You are being accused of blasphemy. You are a non-Muslim living in a Muslim majority country and all it takes for you to lose your freedom, job, friends, social standing and even life is for someone to report to authorities that you have spoken opprobriously of Muhammad and hence have injured the religious sensitivity of Muslims.

This is the nightmare that minorities in Islamic countries face. The charge does not have to be true. It could be that someone owes you money and he wants to get rid of you. It could be that someone offered to buy your land, which you refused to sell at the price he was offering. Or maybe someone does not like you because you are a human rights activist fighting for the rights of the oppressed minorities.

Abuses such as this happen on daily basis in Pakistan. More than two years ago, it was the turn of Hector Aleem. Aleem was taken to custody. He was brutally beaten by the police and thrown in a prison cell.

In Pakistan, if you are accused of blasphemy you are guilty until proven otherwise. But to prove your innocence it takes years and thousands of dollars. The lawyers' fee is exorbitant, whereas the wages in Pakistan are extremely low.

Aleem's family has spent all its wealth in legal fees to prove the innocence of their father. Hector's wife earns the meager salary of a nurse. The two elder daughters work but there are five mouths to feed and the legal fee is eating up everything they earn.

More than a year ago, when the case went to the court for the first time, the prosecutor, himself a mullah, did not find enough evidence against Aleem to support his charges. However, he warned the judge that should he release Aleem, the angry mob huddled inside and outside the court may kill him and the judge also may not fare better. This is exactly what happened on July 19 of this year to two Christian brothers, who were gunned down by Muslim militants when they left the court under police custody after a trial hearing in Faisalabad city, Punjab province.

So, Aleem was sent back to jail to face more beating in the hands of his jail keepers. They even told him that they would kill him before setting him free. Aleem's family appealed the court's ruling and a second hearing was arranged. This is where we are at now. The new lawyer is confident, but of course he has to be paid first and his fees are beyond what this impoverished family can afford.

A kind man from Australia has offered to sponsor Hector Aleem and provide him with a working visa. But first Aleem must be released. More than $7000 dollars are needed just for the legal fees. This is a large sum for a nurse with four children. Mehwish, Aleem's older daughter, has set up a paypal account for those who want to help. Here is the account: http://tinyurl.com/hectoraleem. Please click on it and pay generously. This is Mehwish's email address: Mehwishaleem@gmail.com.

The blasphemy law is an affront to human rights. It is devised to legally persecute the minorities. Even if you are not guilty you'll be annihilated before you prove your innocence. The objective of the blasphemy law is to get rid of the minorities by incriminating them one by one.

Isn't it time for the governments of the free world to demand Pakistan to put an end to legalized religious persecution? Pakistan is recipient of large sums of aids from the western countries and particularly from USA. But its only contributions are to persecute the minorities and to produce terrorists.

Please contact your member of parliament, your congressman and the senators in your country and ask them to demand the release of Hector Aleem and to raise the issue of human rights abuses in Pakistan. It is time for the European Parliament, the US congress and the Parliaments in Canada and Australia to condemn the blasphemy law and demand its immediate repeal.

It is a shame that the same governments that swiftly pass laws to protect Muslims against criticism of Islam, find no courage to stand up for the human rights of minorities in Islamic countries. Aren't human rights more important than beliefs? Where is the outcry of the parliamentarians, presidents and prime ministers of the free world vis-à-vis these human rights abuses?

Please spread the world about the plight of Hector Aleem. Here is his support page on Facebook.

Also, please contact the Pakistani embassy in your country as well as the following Pakistani authorities, by phone or by email and express your concern about the dismal human rights in that country. Demand the immediate release of Hector Aleem and the repeal of the blasphemy law. God does not need humans to defend him. The blasphemy law is legalization of persecution. It has no place in any civilized society and no civilized country should tolerate it anywhere. Your government has no right to send your tax money to a pariah country like Pakistan that has a law to persecute minorities.

Below is the list of the authorities to contact.

1.ppp@comsats.net.pk

2.Supreme Court of Pakistan
Constitution Avenue, Islamabad
Telephone: 051-9220581-9220600
Fax: 051-9213452

3. secretarygeneral@president.gov.pk

4.chairman@ppp.org.pk

5. Mr. Syed Yousaf Raza Gillani
Prime minister of Pakistan
Prime Minister House, Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: + 92 51 9221596
E-mail: webmaster@infopak.gov.pk

6. Federal Minister of Law
Justice and Human Rights
S Block, Pakistan Secretariat, Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 51 920 2628
E-mail: minister@molaw.gov.pk

7. Mr. Rehman Malik
Advisor for Ministry of Interior
Room No. 404, 4th Floor, R Block,
Pak Secretariat
Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 51 920 2624
Tel: +92 51 921 2026
E-mail: minister@interior.gov.pk

8. Mr. Mian Shahbaz Sharif
Chief Minister of Punjab
H-180 Model Town, Lahore
PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 42 5881383

9. Minister of Law
Government of Punjab
Punjab Secretariat
Ravi Road
Lahore
PAKISTAN
E-mail: law@punjab.gov.pk

10. Chief Secretary of Government of Punjab
Punjab Secretariat
Lahore
PAKISTAN
Fax: +92 42 7324489
E-mail: chiefsecy@punjab.gov.pk

11. Dr. Faqir Hussain
Registrar
Supreme Court of Pakistan
Constitution Avenue, Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Fax: + 92 51 9213452
E-mail: mail@supremecourt.gov.pk

12. Mr. Syed Hamid Saeed Kazmi
Minister for Religious Affairs
Islamabad
PAKISTAN
Tel: +92 51 9214856 / 9206982
Fax: +92 51 9213593
E-mail: mra.hajj@gmail.com

Ali Sina is the author of Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah's Prophet and the founder of Faithfreedom.org, a site created to help Muslims leave Islam.

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Stories like this should be told every Sunday from pulpits all across America. God knows, there's plenty more where this came from.

But are they?

Folding panels with up-to-date photo documentation and journalistic reprints need to be set up in Church lobbies nationwide. Evidence and more evidence! Teams of islamocognizant christians need to fan out all across America and bear witness to muhammadan mayhem and murder against Christians (and other non-muhammadans). NOW. In every lobby of every church in dar al-harb.

Pakistan and Legalized Religious Persecution
This is the Last Gasp of Islam
Pakistan: From 80 thousand Christians in 1947 to 6 million in 2000 (Sheikh al-Qataani on al-Jazeera TV.)
Islam in Fast Demise (video)
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/dying-islam-lislam-mourant.html

But be very careful in protesting to Pakistan at all, lest you contribute to Pakistan's "mistrust" of the United States, its government, its people.

For more on what to do about Pakistan's "mistrust" -- a "mistrust" that the American government is doing everything it can to alleviate -- see "What To Do About Pakistan's 'Mistrust'" here:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/fitzgerald-what-to-do-about-pakistans-mistrust.html#more

And here is a piece posted at the website run by Ali Sina, www.faithfreedom.org, by Lee Jay Walker, on the dangers that non-Muslims face in Pakistan and Bangladesh:


Bangladesh and Pakistan: where minorities fear to walk

Radical Islamists and the persecution of minorities

In modern day Bangladesh and Pakistan you have constant persecution of non-Muslim minorities and also minority Muslim communities are being killed in the name of radical Sunni Islam in Pakistan. Therefore, Ahmadiyya Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Shia Muslims, Sikhs, and others, face daily persecution and hatred in Bangladesh and Pakistan respectively.

On August 11th this year it will be “Minority Day” in Pakistan, however, Dr. Nazir S. Bhatti of the Pakistan Christian Congress announced that they will be observing ‘Black Day” because of the constant persecution of minorities in Pakistan.

Dr. Nazir S. Bhatti states “How we can celebrate Minority Day in Pakistan when our innocent brothers are being killed by Islamic militants and our women are being gang raped and enforcedly converted to Islam.”

It is clear that the partition of India led to chaos and hundreds of thousands of people were murdered. After this chaos divisions would emerge between East Pakistan and West Pakistan and further bloodshed would occur, with the outcome being the sovereign nations of Bangladesh and Pakistan. However, while India remains to be multi-religious, the opposite is happening in Bangladesh and Pakistan because religious minorities are facing the brute reality of radical Sunni Islam.

To make matters worse both Bangladesh and Pakistan would witness the gradual Islamization of their societies, notably Pakistan, and massive corruption and persecution of women would continue. The Islamization of both nations was especially traumatic for Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan and for Hindus and Buddhists in Bangladesh. Not surprisingly, this Islamic persecution of minorities in both nations re-awakened anti-Islamic feelings in India.

Christians in Pakistan also began to feel the brunt of radical Sunni Islam and the same applies to Ahmadiyya Muslims who suffer greatly. At the same time you also have growing divisions within Sunni Islam and the usual Sunni-Shia divide led to many massacres and terrorist attacks.

However, unlike the destruction of Buddhism and Hinduism in Afghanistan which happened centuries earlier because of Islamic conquests, forced conversions to Islam, systematic persecution, and controlling all leverages of power; the Islamization of Bangladesh and Pakistan took place in the twentieth century and continues today.

Yet why are the religions of Buddhism and Hinduism being allowed to be destroyed in both nations? After all, Buddhists in Bangladesh were a small minority and they could never threaten Islam; the same applies to Hindus in Pakistan. Despite this, the international community remains very silent.

Therefore, why did other nations remain quiet when massive religious persecution was taking place? After all, nations like France, the United Kingdom and America were espousing ‘democracy’ and liberals were glorifying multi-faith societies and stating that Islam was a religion of peace. At the same time major institutions like the Commonwealth, which espoused global human rights, remained quiet despite religious persecution and pogroms in Bangladesh and Pakistan.

In Pakistan the destruction of Hinduism and persecution of Hindus took many forms. The first path was the massacre of Hindus during partition and forcing Hindus to leave via coercion. However, over the last 50 years the destruction of Hinduism in modern day Pakistan was based on past Islamic global conquests and the teachings of the Prophet Mohammed who sanctioned the persecution of non-Muslims. For the Prophet Mohammed had told his followers to ‘Fight those who believe not in God nor the last day . . . Nor acknowledge the religion of truth (Islam) . . .’ Therefore, the followers of Hinduism were to be subdued in accordance with the teachings of Islamic Sharia Law, the Koran and the Hadiths.

Given this, Hindus were now a subdued minority, like Christians in Pakistan, and they were unequal in law and status in accordance with the teachings of Islam. At the same time Hindu temples were often converted into Muslim mosques or destroyed, and ancient Hindu architecture was left to collapse and fade away. The choice for many Hindus was either to convert to Islam in order to escape persecution, flee to India or to accept that they were second-class citizens in Pakistan. Not surprisingly, the Hindu population in Pakistan continued to decline and this civilization was being eradicated by Islam.

The situation for Buddhists in Bangladesh was different, for Buddhism had survived countless Islamic conquests in one region because of terrain and other factors; therefore, Buddhists and other faiths had survived in the Chittagong Hill Tracts. However, the increasing population of Bangladesh led to many problems and the government of Bangladesh hoped ‘to kill two birds with one stone.’ This applies to moving millions of Muslim people to remote parts of Bangladesh, notably the Chittagong Hill Tracts, while at the same time this new Muslim migration would crush the mainly Buddhist tribal opposition in this region.

Therefore, millions of Muslim migrants were moved into the Chittagong Hill Tracts and the mainly Buddhist tribals (some are Christian, Hindu or follow traditional beliefs) became embroiled in a civil war. Islamic radicals also moved into this region and many Buddhist priests were killed, including some being beheaded. At the same time hundreds of Buddhist temples were destroyed and the Bangladesh army took part in many massacres, and some Buddhist women were gang-raped by both Islamic zealots and the Bangladesh army.

In time the mainly Buddhist tribals were overwhelmed by the armed forces of Bangladesh and Muslim migration because this was a clear dual policy based on Islamization and control. Their situation, however, went unnoticed in the West and Islamic nations obviously remained silent. To make matters worse, the mainly Buddhist tribes had no nation supporting them and no major world leader to draw attention to their plight. Given this, the government of Bangladesh continues with this policy and Buddhists and other minorities face the ongoing Islamization of the Chittagong Hill Tracts.

Therefore, the destruction of thousands of years of Hindu/Buddhist civilization in these nations is being destroyed and the world remains largely silent. It is clear that mainly Buddhist nations like Japan (and Shinto), Cambodia, Thailand, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Vietnam, and others, should form an organization to help their co-religionists; with Japan being the main financial power to raise awareness of Buddhist persecution. However, sadly this is not happening and India clearly did not do enough in order to protect or raise the issue of Hindu persecution in both Bangladesh and Pakistan.

If global silence continues then Buddhism will one day be eradicated in Bangladesh. However, the global community did condemn the Taliban in Afghanistan for destroying Buddhist statues and art, yet the same global community remains quiet when Buddhist tribes are being systematically persecuted. Does this mean that Buddhist art in Afghanistan is more important than the persecution of Buddhist communities and the gang rape of Buddhist women in Bangladesh?

Surely the Hindus of Pakistan and Buddhists in the Chittagong Hill Tracts deserve better? If the international community remains silent about this crime, then soon these lands will be Islamized and religiously ‘cleansed.’

The ongoing silence is an international disgrace and because of this Islamists are now killing Ahmadiyya Muslims and Christians in Pakistan. After all, the world remained silent when Hindus and Sikhs faced massive persecution in Pakistan and the same applies to the constant destruction of Buddhist tribal villages in Bangladesh. Therefore, the persecution of all minorities is getting worse in modern day Pakistan.

The most vulnerable and ‘voiceless’ in Bangladesh and Pakistan have been abandoned by the international community. Why?

Thats whats going to happen here if we allow the laws regarding POLITICAL CORRECTNESS to pass. AKA "Blasphemy" laws in the UK.

posted on mine site too - hope it helps

Totalitarian Islam.

There are remarkable similarities between Islam, and communism. The only major difference being is that Islam has a deity called " Allah ", and a " prophet called Mohammad ".

In the communistic version, the deity is the State, and the prophet is Marx.

But the resulting human misery is the same.

Well, I sent some money. And I emailed those a-holes. I hope that I wasn't too harsh.
"You better let Mr. Aleem out of Jail RIGHT NOW and quite hassleing him. I am sick to death of the United State giving hundreds of millions of dollars to countries that persecute Christians. I am SICK OF IT, Do you hear?

That god of islam doesn't need humans defending him. That makes him out to be a damned pussy, you fools.

The blasphemy law is legalization of persecution. It has no place in any civilized society and no civilized country should tolerate it anywhere. The US government has no right to send your tax money to a pariah country like Pakistan that has a law to persecute minorities.

and you better stop it or I am going to start protesting, and PROTESTING LOUDLY.

NOW LET HECTOR ALEEM GO!!!

Greg H.

Citizen of USA"

OT:

Muslims in U.K. STILL griping about CCTV cameras:

(They're threatening to tear them down themselves if the authorities don't remove them -- never doubt who is in control there...)

"BIRMINGHAM CCTV SYSTEM LEAVES POLICE TRUST IN TATTERS"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10888985

Here is the piece about cameras in Birmingham to which a link is given just above. Note the use of the word "disproportionately" and ask yourself: "disproportionately" to what, exactly?

6 August 2010

Birmingham CCTV system leaves police trust in tatters
By Robin Brant Political correspondent, BBC News

CCTV cameras in Birmingham The 218 cameras can record number plates

A disproportionately high concentration of CCTV cameras located in mainly Muslim areas of Birmingham continues to trigger concern from residents. The system will not be dismantled and despite earlier assurances could yet be used for counter-terrorism purposes, West Midlands Police have told the BBC.

They started appearing a few months ago. Ever since then there has been uproar among some Muslims in the city.

At a public meeting this week the crowd started chanting "take them down".

One man shouted: "You've got more cameras than communist China," before walking out in disgust.

Another man said some young men had told him they would tear them down if the police did not remove them.
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They sit at the top of grey posts, about 15m (49ft) high. Some are on busy junctions, others on quiet sidestreets used as rat runs.

Aziz Mitha said: "If they wanted to secure the area they should have brought police into the area, but not cameras. They give a 24/7 view."

The 19-year-old has a brand new CCTV camera at the end of his road. It does not just watch and record, it can read and record every car number plate that goes by.

He lives in Sparkhill, a mostly Muslim area in Birmingham. It is one of two areas which have been targeted by a CCTV network set up around the streets.
Zakariah Ahmed, resident affected by cameras in Birmingham The cameras have damaged community relations between residents and the police, says Mr Ahmed

Some of the cameras are hidden. There are 218 in all, and they can record pictures and number plates of every car that goes in or out of the areas.

When the cameras first appeared - there had been no public consultation - the police said they were for fighting normal crime, like anti-social behaviour and car crime.

But it turned out more than £3m from a special government anti-terror fund had paid for them.

There is no other residential area in the UK with a concentration of cameras like this.

Eighteen-year-old Zakariah Ahmed is looking for work at the moment. He lives in one of the affected areas.

"If there are 70 hidden cameras now, what makes you say that they won't do it again in six months?" he said.

He thinks it has shattered trust in the police here. By all accounts things had been pretty good over the past few years. But not now.

Zakariah said: "They might even put a camera looking right at your window."

A public review is under way to decide what to do with the cameras. They are covered and not switched on at the moment.

The police say the camera network can help tackle normal crime. Yet critics point out there are areas of Birmingham with higher levels of crime - and fewer Muslims - that do not have anything like this concentration of CCTV cameras.
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If there was a terrorist incident we'd use every bit of technology possible to solve that crime”

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The police admit mistakes were made. They have apologised. Now they talk about "putting it right", but there is deep scepticism among some about the true intentions of the police.

The senior officer in charge of the project has admitted that if and when the cameras are turned on, they will have a counter-terrorism role.

Assistant Chief Constable Sharon Rowe told the BBC: "If there was a terrorist incident we'd use every bit of technology possible to solve that crime."

When asked if the cameras could "prevent" such an incident, she agreed.

Under the new coalition government the tide has turned against CCTV. Tougher regulations are coming. Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg wants to end what he has called a "spying culture" in the UK.

In a statement to the BBC, Mr Clegg said the Birmingham cameras were agreed under the previous government.

"This government is serious about protecting civil liberties. In this particular case a public consultation has been announced so that local people can make sure their views are heard."

The police and MI5 uncovered a major terror plot in Birmingham in 2007. These cameras were supposed to help prevent a repeat of that.

Instead they have left many Muslims in Birmingham angry, distrustful and a lot less likely to talk to the police.

Yankel is so right when he says this subject should be preached against in the pulpits each Sunday. I am so very familiar with such cases as this because I've been supporting The Voice of the Martyrs for many years. They help in just such situations, providing payment for lawyers, providing medical help for the persecuted and their families, and providing material restitution for possessions stolen or destroyed, and in many other ways often at great risk to themselves. Whether they will reach this family, I can't say. There is so much persecution, the killing goes on fairly constantly throughout the world, but largely in Muslim countries, of course. (I can't believe the leaders of our nation are helping the Muslims gain a foothold here.)
But -- I have tried twice to interest the churches I've attended in supporting this worthy group by inviting one of their speakers to inform our congregation of their work, and the answer, when I get one, is always NO. I never pursue the subject because I want to keep the peace, but it's very disappointing. If any of you have extra money to donate in these trying times, I can recommend the Voice of the Martyrs where your money will be well spent in providing succor to and saving the lives of at least some of the persecuted.
Their website is http://www.persecution.com.

Can we offer to take these nice people in exchange for Adnan Shukrijumah's insufferable mama?

Yankel and Paula--

I am printing this article and putting it in tomorrow's collection basket.

I have family serving as medical missionaries in Africa. Maybe you read here what happened to some other Christian medical missionaries in Afghanistan.

My money goes to Voice of the Martyrs and my cousins in Africa. I have sat, for too long, in cushy western churches hearing about the "three great Abrahamaic faiths," "not all Muslims are terrorists" "COEXIST" blah, blah.

This thread shows the everyday reality of the Muslim world. Remember how we refused to trade with South Africa and Namibia? It's time to shut off the money spigot to Pakistan.

Thank you Ali Sina—and thank you Jihad Watch, for giving him a forum.

From above:

This is the nightmare that minorities in Islamic countries face. The charge does not have to be true. It could be that someone owes you money and he wants to get rid of you. It could be that someone offered to buy your land, which you refused to sell at the price he was offering. Or maybe someone does not like you because you are a human rights activist fighting for the rights of the oppressed minorities.
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Another all too common scenario is that a man like Hector Aleem receives an offer from a Muslim to marry his daughters—and finds himself charged with "blasphemy" shortly after his refusal.

I wonder how many girls are married off in such circumstances, out of abject fear on the part of the non-Muslim family? I imagine it is quite common, making this one of the worst sort of forced marriages.

More:

More than a year ago, when the case went to the court for the first time, the prosecutor, himself a mullah, did not find enough evidence against Aleem to support his charges. However, he warned the judge that should he release Aleem, the angry mob huddled inside and outside the court may kill him and the judge also may not fare better.
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Even *the Mullah* could not find enough to charge him with. How often does this happen, that innocent Infidels are kept in jail for "their own protection"? Add this to women who are likewise kept in jail because their families would kill them if they were released—it is estimated that *75%* of women in prison in Pakistan are jailed under such circumstances—and the entire concept of criminal incarceration in these nations is often a sick joke.

And, of course, even these circumstances do not save them from regular beatings and often rape.

More:

A kind man from Australia has offered to sponsor Hector Aleem and provide him with a working visa. But first Aleem must be released. More than $7000 dollars are needed just for the legal fees.
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God bless this man. People like Hector Aleem are the kinds of victims of persecution we *should* be giving asylum to here in the West—instead of the very sorts of people who have persecuted him and worse—which is far more often the case.

His also seems like a hard-working family—exactly the sort of people who would be good citizens of Australia—or any other Western nation.

More:

Isn't it time for the governments of the free world to demand Pakistan to put an end to legalized religious persecution? Pakistan is recipient of large sums of aids from the western countries and particularly from USA. But its only contributions are to persecute the minorities and to produce terrorists.
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Yes.

More:

It is a shame that the same governments that swiftly pass laws to protect Muslims against criticism of Islam, find no courage to stand up for the human rights of minorities in Islamic countries.
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I think this is only occasionally a question of courage—as perhaps in the case of the prosecutor in Hector Aleem's case, and perhaps the judge. I think it is far more common for Muslims to be perfectly happy with blasphemy laws on the books that can be used against non-Muslims at any time. I imagine many Muslims consider Infidels essentially "blasphemers" by their very existence.

As is so often the case, Infidel victims find that the most decent Muslims are actually the cowardly ones. This is not much to hang your hopes on—certainly not for Hector Aleem and his family.

Luckily, there is also the tool of international pressure—which may have saved the life of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani in Iran (or at least have saved her from the sentence of stoning) and the life of apostate Abdul Rahman in Afghanistan. If it becomes impolitic to persecute someone—if further persecution becomes a political embarrassment—then they may just him go—especially since a Kaffir nation has offered to take him.

Besides the Pakistani contacts above, it might be a good idea to contact your own nation's ambassador to Pakistan, as well as the Pakistani embassy in your own country.

I contacted my representative and senators via email and the White House also.

I also sent email to the pakistani authorities with email.

Please do the same and tell your friends/relatives to do the same.

I used what elgreco sent (with some modifications)

for the pakistani authorities without email not sure but maybe will try fax later (i'm afraid of the phone charges).
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Re: Hector Aleem

Please Do anything in your power to get Mr. Aleem out of Jail AS SOON AS POSSIBLE and to have Pakistani authorities stop harrassing him. I am sick to death of the United State giving hundreds of millions of dollars to countries that persecute Christians. I am SICK OF IT, Do you hear?

The blasphemy law is legalization of persecution. It has no place in any civilized society and no civilized country should tolerate it anywhere. The US government has no right to send my tax money to a pariah country like Pakistan that has a law to persecute minorities.

LET HECTOR ALEEM GO!!!

I just wrote to both my senators.

Don't forget to write to Hussein at the white house too. It may work as it makes the "religion of peace" TM look pretty bad.

OT but totally worth pointing out - Fox has a fantastic special on W Bill Hemmer about the Said sisters - Honour killing in America = kudos to them they are being completely forthright in their reporting on this crime - you MUST watch it!

As a follow up, I was very pleased that Fox in no way portrayed Yasser Said in a sympathetic light, this was an A plus report that cut to the chase as to why and how this monster killed his children. Hope to see more programs of this calibre.

Besides 'Voice of the Martyrs' there are two other bodies that support persecuted Christians: 'Release International' and 'The Barnabas Fund'.

Both may be found by googling.

All three support persecuted Christians all over the world, though they have slightly different approaches and emphases.

Voice of the Martyrs and Release International are 'generalists'; they do a lot of work for persecuted Christians within the Islamic world because, to be frank, that is where *most* of the worst persecution is happening (except for North Korea, which manages - I think - to be even worse than Saudi Arabia).

The Barnabas Fund, on the other hand, has as its primary focus Christians within the Islamic world, though they do not overlook or ignore Christians who are persecuted within nasty dictatorships such as Zimbabwe and Myanmar, and in North Korea, and China.

Because it was founded by an apostate from Islam, now a Canon within the Anglican Church in the UK, the Barnabas Fund also publishes *excellent* informative, truth-telling no-punches-pulled information leaflets - and books - about Islam. Canon Sookhdeo's books, such as 'Global Jihad' and 'Islam in Britain' and 'Faith, Power and Territory', and his latest, a scholarly expose of the apostasy law, entitled, 'Freedom to Believe: Challenging Islam's Apostasy Law', sit very happily on the shelf next to Mr Spencer's books.

I'd recommend the practising Christians reading this, if you aren't already aware of these organisations, to check them out and consider giving one or more of them your active support. And if your home church seems uninterested or indifferent, at first, just keep on keeping on; refuse to be quiet. The New Testament scriptures explicitly tell us to "remember the persecuted".

I have a question.

Is there a reputable international organisation attempting to stand up and make noise on behalf of *all* dhimmified communities? The three bodies I've mentioned, are focused on Christians. But as we know, in Bangladesh and Pakistan and Malaysia and Indonesia, Hindus and Buddhists and Sikhs are under attack as much as are the Christians. When Muslims attack a Bangladeshi village in the Chittagong Hill Tracts, they attack Buddhist monks, Hindu priests, and Christian pastors; they burn down, with equal zest, Buddhist shrines, Hindu temples and Christian churches.

So who is monitoring and publicising the many gross Muslim abuses committed against non-Muslims (of any kind, not just Christians) in all Muslim lands, and trying to help those under assault?

One would expect Amnesty International to be covering this base, but I doubt that they are.

Further thought:

Barnabas Fund, and others, have designated the first Sunday in November as a day on which Christians can organise prayer vigils, special services, and other events, to raise awareness in the West, about persecuted Christians. In the process, awareness is raised about the general dangerousness and malevolence of Islam...

But it does seem to me that, beyond that, what's needed is a day on which the Islamosavvy non-Muslims of all backgrounds can remember - and educate our neighbours about - *all* the non-Muslims of whatever faith who are oppressed, exploited, abused and murdered by Muslims inside every Muslim country.

Perhaps All Souls' Day, the Day of the Dead, might - in the West - be a good time on which to hold a 'Day of the Dhimmi' (not in the sense of 'dhimmi' as collaborator/ janissary, but in the sense of 'person trapped within the Islamic world and abused by Muslims').

j not a wrote:

OT but totally worth pointing out - Fox has a fantastic special on W Bill Hemmer about the Said sisters - Honour killing in America
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Yes—I mentioned this yesterday. It's so good to see the media covering this—and it's quite a well done program. I'm sure it will be rerun several times.

Ali Sina has put it eloquently: imagine this man's Hector Aleem's condition. Alone in such a pit of mad dogs. And the West stays quiet, as if nothing happens. What to say, indeed... words remain so powerless...

Those are news that someone may learn about in sites as the one here only. The mainstream media nothing says about them. Here in the West it is not rare at all seeing that very few people know about those events. Most of them when hearing about such things look like having a short circuit in their perceptional faculties. The only thing they feel as familiar is... anti-Western (and especially anti-American) speech and criticism.

There are 2 points I'd like to make on this subject.

1) Minorities suffer in most countries - those are facts of how homo-sapiens treat each other's differences; shame but true. Look at how you Americans treated the red indian - long time ago you have changed? Well then look at the atrocitries that the superior Americans carried out against the Iraqis and now more recently against thousands in Afghanistan, that's just a few mnths old.

America is not alone - its the Abos in Australia, or the Maouris in New Zealand. The common factor is not Islam- it's the colonist white man - HE is the cornerstone of all the ills of the world - with his interfering condendising "I am better than thou" - lighting mini-fires which then spread and get family to fight against each other whilst he looks on smugly - smiling at his handy work.

2) So now let's look at Pakistan. The whole point of this is that there would be NO christianinty there had the colonist not brought this disease to our house. This problem is of your making - but as usual you want to make us look bad; Did Ali Sina tell you about this? Well ofcourse the snivelling and smiling rat didn't.

People you need to wake up and see that you are being setup; your minds are being played with.

Oh shut up, 'roland'.

Christianity is not a disease - Islam is. Islam is malignant narcissism codified into a system and turned loose upon the world, producing desolation and delusion everywhere it has gone.

Oh, and before the violent, cruel, mass-murdering, rapacious, kidnapping, slave-raiding, gang-raping pillaging Muslim imperialist invaders came to the region that is now called Pakistan, the people there were Buddhists and Hindus. Those poor people were killed in vast numbers (tens of millions) by boasting, stony-hearted Muslims, enslaved in vast numbers, and treated like sh!t, till the survivors, crushed by the infernal cruelty of the invaders, mostly gave in and became...Muslims, and let 'allah' the war-god of the arabs eat their souls and turn their men into monsters and their women into hooded slaves. Poor people; they broke under that terrible burden of Muslim bullying, just as a child incessantly bullied in the playground and unable to escape, may in desperation give up and join the bullies' gang, to bully others in turn. If you're a Muslim from Pakistan, that's who your ancestors are. If you had a grain of self-respect you'd apostasise, as Ali Sina has done, and quit grovelling in the dirt to a long-dead-and-rotten Arab psychopath and bowing to the sheikhs of Arabia who despise you because you're not an Arab.

I can think of few things more sad in the history of mankind than when entire peoples, entire civilizations, surrender completely to an invader and become the invader, accepting his right to invade and conquer them until they deny their own past and culture. In their eagerness they then see nothing higher than doing the same to others.

Pakistan is the most horrific example of this, unwilling to remember their ancestors being deliberately killed or enslaved in numbers that only the Mongols or modern mechanized extermination could equal.

lol, really the wrong place. Sorry!

@roland
Woe betide you, fool.

Let's make this really simple for roland


allah = satan

muhammad = murderer

islam = death

Oh, roland, one more thing. I think dumbledoresarmy's comment bears repeating:

If you had a grain of self-respect you'd quit grovelling to your arab masters in mecca who despise you because you'll never be an arab no matter how much you ape that fiend muhammad.

Of course Muslims hate CCTV cameras...it is too hard to claim victim status when the films clearly show you are are aggressor....

"However, he warned the judge that should he release Aleem, the angry mob huddled inside and outside the court may kill him and the judge also may not fare better."

What a disgusting nation wretched Pakistan is. I think its mobs are Islamic-psychotic and really just want to kill someone and any excuse to target an infidel is jumped at. Islam creates a murderous psychosis and is the perfect gift for psychotics: you can kill with self-righteous anger - such a deal! I suspect this was a factor in its rapid spread.

Roland

Us White Folks are not the cornerstone of all ills in the world. I don't suffer from white guilt at all. I know people like you cannot bear relatively civilised countries proving to be a mirror to your own degradation.
The British Empire was based on Trade, we also left infrastructure and learning. If we were guilty of what you imagine then the whole of the commonwealth would be Christian and we would not be seeing this disgusting savagery. It is islam that is the disease that had infected and destroyed so many cultures. Sadly, it is always fatal.

Roland, if you think Christianity is a disease, you don't just look bad, you ARE bad! Read the words of Jesus, you might then understand.
And if the colonists did introduce Christianity to your country, did the Muslims not impose Islam wherever they galloped, killing and devastating all in their path?
But, I'm afraid these words are wasted on you - you have been brainwashed and corrupted by a great Evil.

i was watching discovery wild the other day and it was about lions. i remember when the male lion raids a pride it kills all the cubs of the previous leader it looked very unfair to me but still thats how nature works my point is u cant expect justice in pakistan if u r a infidel. as simple as that. thats their bloody animal nature. u cant balme them if u have misunderstood them. ofcourse u all ud have met friendly pakistanis but thats just a sham to get into ur household

DDA,

I did reply to your rant - but I believe it got deleted.

The reason why I think Christianity is a disease is because of it's reformation.

The colonist thinks he is bigger and better than God - so he changes the literal words of God - for manipulation and greed - and that is unacceptable.

The Koran will never change - and we don't want people like you saying that it is OK to change the Koran and further that it must change.

I hope that furthers your understanding - but I doubt it.

The Quran is a mess. The Quran is a weird, incoherent, violent mess. The Hadith are even worse. And the Sira gives us non-Muslims a truly horrifying picture of the career of Ha Meshugga, the Mad One, who appears to us as a murderous thug, warlord, rapist and con-man, a sort of cross between Charles Manson (or any other dangerous cult leader), Chairman Mao at his worst, Blackbeard the Pirate, Pol Pot and Comrade Stalin. Oh, and Herr Hitler.

We don't feel even the slightest inclination to admire him. He disgusts us.

And so do the visible fruits of Islam disgust us.

Here's one experienced observer's detailed assessment of what Islam does to Muslims. Fr Menezes had lived in South Asia for many, many years and had had lots of time to see what Muslim believed and what they did to others and to each other.

From THE LIFE AND RELIGION OF MOHAMMAD (1912) By J. L. Menezes.

"The Mahommedan religion on the whole with all its dogmatic and moral principles, and with all its positive and negative laws has been a curse to human society.

"Mahommed pretended to confer by his religion a boon, at least on his own countrymen, by giving them in place of gross idolatry a purer faith, and surer moral habits,

but in this attempt he has miserably failed and has hopelessly fallen into the very sin he so vehemently assailed.

"Mahommedanism has penetrated into barbarous countries and has forced its inhabitants to accept it as their saving religion, but in doing so it has not succeeded in elevating man’s condition to a higher level – or at least to a level any higher than that of Arabia in Mohammed’s time.

"The Partial and specious reforms which it may have attempted to effect, are vitiated by the fact that they tend to exclude the higher and nobler virtues;

"and as their inner life of families, the whole, the whole tone of society and the intellectual and moral standard of a people depend on the principles of the ruling religion,

"it is hopeless to expect that Islam will ever cease to be what it hitherto proved, the most formidable obstacle to the dawn of a progressive and enlighten civilization.

"How can it be otherwise?

"No permanent house can be built on a foundation of sand; what permanent civilization and progress then can be expected from a people professing **a religion founded on fatalism, polygamy and slavery?** {my emphasis - dda}.

"Their blind belief in inevitable fate,

"and their antagonism to liberty of thought and action have rendered reform next to impossible;

"and the professors of this religion seem never to realize their obligation and duty towards the people under their rule, of spreading true civilization, good government and the cultivation of the peaceful arts.

"The natural consequence of this ignorance and blindness has been despotism, mal-administration, bigoted persecution and oppression of their co-religionists.

"In the countries of the Mahommedan world

"anarchy, rapine, revenge, strife and murder are the order of the day,

"thieving, lying, usury and oppression are looked upon more as virtues than vices;

"unrestrained licentiousness is carried to unimaginable excess.

"Dirt and filth are things that never come seriously before the attention of Mahommedans;
they seem indeed to prefer living in the most dirty and filthy environment.

"They are generally illiterate and at the same time self-conceited

"and their vainglory in their religion and the nothingness of their own acquirements makes them scorn every other religion;

"the meager education which they generally receive when young, makes them believe that there is not much left for them to learn in the world.

{gee, sounds like Fr M L Menezes had met an *awful* lot of Mohammedans just like 'roland'! - dda}.

"In short, Mahommedan countries are the chosen homes of

"ignorance, bigotry, tyranny and brutal vice,

"and rendezvous for a filthy, unprincipled people, as well as for brigands, felons and freebooters.

"While all other countries not influenced by Islam have made rapid progress in every direction and enjoy the blessings and peace of true civilization,

"**Mahommedan countries have remained absolutely opposed to change and reform** {my emphasis - dda}.

"nay, rapacity and extortion have reduced them to a most deplorable state.

"Such is the boon conferred on human society by the Mahommedan religion, and what a benefactor Mahommed has been to his country!

"Who was pleased to give to his country, nay, to the whole world, a religion which,

"claiming a divine origin as the final and irrevocable standard of morality,

"has kept its followers sunk in ignorance and barbarism, and has become an insuperable barrier to the regeneration, civilization and progress of the Eastern world.” END QUOTE.

Pretty good description of the current state of Pakistan, don't you think, ladies and gentlemen?

The colonist thinks he is bigger and better than God

No, you dummkopf!
The colonist thinks he is bigger and better than allah and the colonist had proved it a million times.

Now what has your allah/shmallah proven? He/she can't even prove his/her own existence except through acts of evil.

The Koran will never change - and we don't want people like you saying that it is OK to change the Koran and further that it must change.

People like you would have drowned in your mohammedan shit long time ago if people like us wouldn't have taken pity.
And no, we don't want to change Koran any more than we want to change skunk's stink. We just want to be in a safe distance from it.

"...it's the colonist white man - HE is the cornerstone of all the ills of the world - with his interfering condendising "I am better than thou"

That's interesting, because muslims also thing We are better than you:

3:111"You are the best of the nations raised up for (the benefit of) men; you enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong and believe in Allah; and if the followers of the Book had believed it would have been better for them; of them (some) are believers and most of them are transgressors. "

So now the white man and islam are both the cornerstones of all the ills of the world. Where do we go from here?

Next point:"...The whole point of this is that there would be NO christianinty there had the colonist not brought this disease to our house...."

There would be NO Islam in pakistan had not the muslim imperialists brought it to Pakistan, didn't you know that? So both diseases were imported to pakistan.

Roland,
as a blatantly ethnic looking non-caucasion Aussie chick, I must say that the so called "white colonialists" here in Australia have treated me with much more respect and dignity than any Muslim has - both in and out of Australia.

"roland" wrote:

Well then look at the atrocitries (sic) that the superior Americans carried out against the Iraqis and now more recently against thousands in Afghanistan, that's just a few mnths (sic) old.
.................

Yes—all that school, hospital, and road building-such "atrocitries". Oh, the humanity!

Hi, HourglassF.

Nice to see you dropping by. And good point!

Hope you're doing well.

Good to see you too DDA
I enjoy your gutsy posts as always, keep up the fight and the good work
:-)

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