Gingrich: "There is nothing surprising in the president's continued pandering to radical Islam"

"Has Gingrich been reading Jihad Watch?"

I hope so, though Newt still thinks Islam is peaceful and we're fight a strain of 'radical Islam.' Still he's one of the leading politicians who's closest to the real truth and he's been really adept at describing and calling attention to who we're fighting.

I look at it this way, if/when America genuinely begins to fight back against the jihadists, that epic war will suck in the "radicals" just as the invasion of Iraq did-so we'll eventually be attacking those who deserve it.

Now if the entire muslim world makes war against the non-muslim world-so be it. Civilization (the West) is incompatible with medieval Barbarism (Islam) and one will eventually eliminate the other, I vote for our side of course.

Robert,
Pamela,
David Horowitz,

The extent of your influence and knowledge in all things Islamic cannot be overstated. Thank you for being here at this very critical juncture. The GZ mosque issue is turning into being a pivot point: Americans are making key assessments about Islam, based on the actions and conflicting statements of Islamic leaders and spokesmen. Their eyes are telling Americans one thing: that Islam is far, far from being the religion of peace portrayed by Muslims. The reality of Islam is at great variance with the propaganda of the PC crowd.

Your available information is a much needed counterweight to the lies of the Muslims themselves and those of our conspiring politicians and their cheerleaders.

Thank you.

Frank Scarn

Uh, "Jewish"Supremacist, your not-so-thinly covered, indeed blatant, endoresement of white supremacism and anti-Semitism will not be well received here.

No one here is so stupid as to be unaware of what StormFront is, or what the criminal racist David Duke endorses.

'The fact is this is not about religious liberty."

No one has stopped any muslim in USA from worshipping his chosen God.
This definitely is NOT about freedom to worship.
It is all about not respecting the dead.
It is all about an in-your-face attitude.
It is all about obama's disconnect with the people of USA.

Why do the muslims need one more mosque in Manhattan?
Why do they need even a single mosque in USA?
Why can they not pray in the privacy of their homes the way all non-muslims do in saudi arabia?

@ Jewishsupremacist

Are you a Muslim troll who is trying to defame Jihad Watch by purporting to be a neo-Nazi posting this rubbish?

I would advise JW to take this post out before CAIR claim that JW is a haven for neo-Nazis. It's the second time I've seen this exact same post in the last few days.

Obama at first claimed no opinion on this issue, stating it to be a purely local concern.

The president then supported building the mosque. He does have a point in stating that it IS their legal right to build. Is it tacky? YES!

Finally, when facing some obvious and justified backfire relating to his support of the mosque, he attempts to justify his position, but hypocritically refuses to committ honestly to stating whether he thinks it is a good or bad thing.

The president's approach is clearly an expression of intellectual dishonesty, and offers a classic example of speaking with a forked tongue.

Obama should have just kept his mouth shut.

Have John Boehner and Peter King been personally invited, preferably by Mr Spencer himself, to attend the protest rally on 9/11?

I think they should be encouraged to attend in order to be able to converse with, for example, Mr Geert Wilders. And they will also have the opportunity to converse with members of Former Muslims United, who can explain to them how the Mohammedan Mob resembles the Mafia in its murderous treatment of those who try to leave; and with representatives of the Copt community who can tell them exactly how intolerant - indeed, cruel and downright murderous - Muslims regularly are toward their non-Muslim neighbours, whenever and wherever the Muslims feel themselves strong enough to get away with it (whether by force of numbers, or due to other factors).

Every US politician - local, state or federal - who has shown signs of 'getting' an inkling of what Mr Fitzgerald calls 'the meaning and menace of Islam', or who has any 'form' at all on saying 'No' to Muslim demands, should be invited to attend this rally.

A mosque is not a church. Nor is a mosque at all like other houses of worship of other faiths: it is not like a Jewish synagogue, a Taoist or Confucian or Shinto or Buddhist temple; it is not like a Zoroastrian fire shrine, nor even a Sikh gurdwara.

This is what one Muslim apostate calls the mosque: 'the forbidden fortress'.

http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2006/02/inside-forbidden-fortress.html

Saturday, February 25, 2006
'Inside the Forbidden Fortress'.

From that article, just in case any politician's staffer happens to be reading over my shoulder:

"Muslims in a mosque don’t dare do anything that would make him [Mohammed] mad--they’re still bowing down to his will and command. Mo still has authority and power over all these people, and a hold over his minions that is difficult for non Moslems to understand.

"But nevertheless, it is real and must be reckoned with.



"It is only when you enter a mosque do you understand fully why they are so crazy about their religion, why they want it to dominate, why they’d do anything for it.

"Mohammed is still there in every mosque and the old memories are refreshed everyday.

"The only thing you can hear clearly is the words being recited from the Koran and nothing else. You look around, you see people focusing on just one thing, Islam.

"Their respect for Mohammed, their will to sacrifice for Islam, it multiplies many fold when they come together in the mosque, and they carry that feeling with them when they walk out back into the world.

"If you ever get the chance of hearing a mullah, do listen to him closely, if you can understand.

"**You will surely hear words like ‘May Allah destroy the infidels and give their possessions to us’, especially on Fridays.

I've heard such things many times in a mosque, more times than I can count.** {my emphasis added - dda}.

"In some parts of the world that prayer is actually written on the front wall of the mosque.

"There used to be a custom when the mullah used to give the sermon with a sword in his hand.

"Many carry that tradition till this day, but some have toned it down by holding a cane instead of a sword.

"Cane or sword, it still symbolizes the absolute jihadist nature of Islam.



"The words ‘Islam is a religion of peace, harmony and tolerance’ immediately lose all meaning upon entering a mosque.

"**In any mosque, there is no peace, there is no harmony and there is no tolerance for anything but Moslems and Islam.** {my emphasis - dda}.

"The Moslems whom you may have met an hour before and who said they are against the jihadis and what they’re doing, those very Moslems shout out loud, ‘death to infidels’ in their neighborhood mosques.

"Not just once or twice, but as a matter of course.

"The very Moslem who tells you, ‘you have a beautiful son, God bless him’ will go to the mosque and pray for the same ‘son’ to be killed so that the religion of his Allah can take over.

"Understanding what goes on inside the mosque, and what a mosque is all about, is critical to understanding what Islam is all about. It's just as important as understanding the Koran and Hadiths.

"The typical mosque has a power over Moslems that Osama Bin Laden or Zarqawi could never hope to have, that no mullah could ever have.

"A mosque is the house of Allah, a sacred place, where hope of victory for Moslems is always reborn.

" It gives them power, and the delusion that their twisted version of 'paradise', with all the virgins and palaces, is real and will be realized by all who fight the unbelievers.



"The mosque symbolizes the strength of Islam; the mosque is a physical and spiritual fortress that Moslems are sure no kuffir could ever conquer."

And *that* is why a mosque MUST NOT be built next to Ground Zero; and, indeed, why it would be a damn good idea if not even one more mosque was permitted to be built in any kafir-majority country, anywhere in the world.

A mosque is not a church nor does it resemble the holy places of any of the other major non-Islamic faiths currently practised on planet earth. (I say currently, because there have been, in the past, other violent and murderous cults such as the Thuggees, the cult of Moloch, the Aztec religion, the war-religion of the Vikings, and suchlike - all now mercifully extinct). A mosque is not an innocent space opened up for peaceful spiritual contemplation.

A mosque is the indoctrination and recruitment office of the Religion of Blood and War (that's what Winston Churchill called Islam); it is an advance military base, a fortress, a war bunker, an ammo dump, an arsenal and magazine; the minarets have often, in places like Iraq, been used as sniper towers, and from the loudspeakered minarets of the modern mosque, in places such as Pakistan, and Indonesia, and - yes - even within kafir-majority India, and Israel - has often gone forth the howl that sends the pillaging, raping, mass-murdering Muslim mob raging and allahu-akbaring toward the homes and religious houses of the terrified and defenceless dhimmis. A mosque resembles an SS or Nazi HQ (mosques in Iraq have been used as torture-chambers; in Ethiopia, Muslims dragged a passing Christian evangelist inside their mosque and there beat him to death), a KKK meeting-house, an outlaw biker gang's hideout, or the place where the mafia don issues orders to his henchmen.

Here is what Seth Frantzman, in the Jerusalem Post, wrote about the non-accidental placement of mosques. Mosques are placed so as to dominate, and domineer over, the non-Muslim 'Other'.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1239710820237&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

Apr 29, 2009 20:29 | Updated Apr 30, 2009 18:09
"More than a coincidence: Minarets, geography and power"
By SETH J. FRANTZMAN

Excerpts:

"A survey of historical placement of mosques in important cities and newly conquered Muslim lands, as well as a survey of the placement of mosques in diverse neighborhoods, shows that their placement is anything but random and that strikingly often they are built next to the houses of prayer or the neighborhoods of non-Muslims."...

"The building of mosques is not always an expression of power,

"but historically and today in mixed communities mosques are constructed with a view toward the non-Muslim other.

"This author is even familiar with a family of Palestinian [sic: Arab] communists in the West Bank [sic: in Judea and Samaria] where a mosque was, not coincidentally, constructed next door to their house.

"It becomes blatantly obvious in a community like Sheikh Jarrah in east Jerusalem, where almost every other mosque is situated next to a Christian building or former holy site.

"The next time one sees a mosque, he should not take it for granted.

"**Many of them have a history and geographical placement that is not coincidental and which serves as an expression of political Islam and its aspirations."** {my emphasis - dda}.

The mosque proposed for the Burlington Coat Factory site is very clearly an expression of political Islam and its aspirations. It is Insult Architecture. It *must* be stopped.

Will aspiring Indian-American politician Vijay Kumar be attending the rally?

Whether he does or not, his article on the mosque, which was reproduced and discussed here at jihadwatch on July 9 this year, deserves to be printed off by the sackful and distributed as a pamphlet to all - including mediapersons - who attend the rally; furthermore, people should be able to get extra copies to scatter far and wide across New York City.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/vijay-kumar-the-muslim-mosque-a-state-within-a-state.html

Is he still in the political race?

Anti-Sharia for Congress

http://www.kumarforcongress.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=97:anti-sharia-for-congress&catid=36

From the jihadwatch thread I just linked, here is Mr Kumar himself, posting:

VijayKumar | July 11, 2010 9:02 AM | Reply
"I have had many requests for the right to publish and distribute my article, "The Muslim Mosque: A State Within a State."

" I have had two PDF versions of the article prepared that can be freely published and distributed anywhere in the world for public information purposes.

"One of the PDFs is letter-size and suitable for either electronic distribution or printing.

"The other is tabloid size and is suitable for printing and folding as a brochure.

Both can be accessed from my blog article:

http://tinyurl.com/29pfzuv

Thanks to everyone for your kind words, encouragement, and interest."

Furthermore:

Others in this thread have mentioned the formidable Col. (ret.) Allen West (another aspiring politician); who was featured at jihadwatch, earlier this year.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/02/allen-west-at-fdi-event.html

Col West is a *real* Black American soldier of the tough old-fashioned kind.

http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2010/02/13/allen-west-knows-jihad—the-enemy-ideology/

This is part of what Allen West said:

"You want to dig up Charles Martel and ask him why him why he was fighting the Muslim army at the Battle of Tours in 732? You want to ask the Venetian fleet at Lepanto why they were fighting a Muslim fleet in 1571? You want to ask…the Germanic and Austrian knights why they were fighting at the gates of Vienna in 1683? You want to ask people what happened at Constantinople and why today it is called Istanbul because they lost that fight in 1453?"...

"You need to get into the Koran…and understand their [i.e. the Muslims' - dda] precepts. This is not a perversion. They are doing exactly what this book says.”...

I would *expect* to see Col. West at the rally!

Picture I'd love to see: Col West, Vijay Kumar and Geert Wilders, side by side. The American descendants of non-Muslim Africa and non-Muslim Asia, joined by one of the bravest citizens of non-Muslim Europe, side by side in the heart of the New World, defying the Jihad.

I never liked newt. And this may be an election year ploy. However, if he turns into an American Geert Wilders, then he has my vote for president in 2012.

Sorry to bring this up, but I'm compelled to beg you to stop quoting Newt Gingrich, even though what he says might correspond with some particular belief of ours. I'm totally onside with the conservative agenda of jihadwatch, and, in fact, with the views expressed in this particular post by Mr. Gingrich.
Still,I can respect this despicable man no more than I can John Edwards or Bill Clinton. Like it or not, when one offers himself for public office, he puts his private life on display, and the voter has every right to extrapolate his familial conduct into the public arena of politics. Why should one believe that someone who engages in such dishonest,treacherous behavior in his spousal relationship, especially when the spouse is afflicted with a terminal illness, would be any more straightforward in his public capacity?

A newt is a salamander who eats fly's...I have not trusted him since I learned years ago, that he is/was a member of the CFR...That is enough, I don't need more than that...

For those of you who are not from Georgia and don't know Newt, he is what he is. He was my congressman and I have met him and I know people who had him as a professor at Kennesaw State University. He is an eloquent speaker, successful author, and quite a historian. He also was a shrewd politician who couldn't keep his pants on. Most conservatives here turned against him where as democrats defended there sicofants. Newt seems to have rehabilitated himself as a spokeman for common sense issues but I would not vote for him again. I am glad to see him speaking out about this.

Also a great article of Ali Sina about the "Ground Zero" mosque and the "Money Trail:"

http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/jihad-articles/ali-sina-on-ground-zero-mosque-cordova-house/
...Mayor Bloomberg calls patriotic Americans who don’t want this mosque, “un-American.”

He should know that it is very American to defend the American constitution against any creeping alien ideology whose adherents do not hide their intention to bring down America and “sabotage its miserable house from within.”...

http://newstime.co.nz/no-mosque-at-ground-zero.html
Building mosques over churches in conquered land
is standard practise in Islam as a symbol of Muslims victory

to suprkufrB.......no, Gingrich is not perfect but unlike BJ Clinton and the lowlife Edwards Gingrich did marry his "other woman." Indeed, he's done so twice! Not attractive to be sure but I believe Harding, one of our best Pres., like Edwards, had a child with the wrong woman. Ike had his stuff on the side (another good Pres). I believe Carter was true to Ros. Would anyone want to go there again because he could keep his zipper closed?.....it is always a good thing not to hit your finger with a hammer but sometimes you will. Should we ban nails?

"Mr. Gingrich said the proposed mosque would be a symbol of Muslim "triumphalism" and that building the mosque near the site of the Sept. 11 attacks "would be like putting a Nazi sign next to the Holocaust Museum."
"It's profoundly and terribly wrong," he said.

Has Gingrich been reading Jihad Watch?"

Whoa, it sure sounds like it! Hope so!

Newt - you can also substitute "Islamic supremacy" for "triumphalism," and you can also say quite simply that in Islam a mosk is a symbol of Islamic conquest.

And, use this quote by Erdogan:

“The mosques are our barracks, the domes are our helmets, the minarets are our swords, and the faithful are our army." - Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan in 1998.

People - Somebody e-mail this thread to Gingrich.

HenryCrux says:"
And, don't forget! The Muslims, exactly like the Democrats, have declared for all time that a yet to be pushed out of the womb human baby is not human but a soulless shell. The sameness of cruel disregard of human life shows the sameness of these two partners and explains their unofficial marriage. They both love murder.

We are in the struggle of our lives in this nation and in the world. Think long and hard before casting off potential leaders. People like Newt Gingrich and Rudy Giuliani have leadership qualities, historical frameworks and consitutional foundations we will soon need. Pair them up with a Paul Ryan, Allen West, Michele Bachmann or anyone with similar qualities, but less experience we can take 2012 and hold leadership through 2020 or 2024 or ...

Jihad Watch is a resource for the world as is the beloved Mr. Spencer.

At the time of 9/11, I wrote that 9/11 far from being a disaster for Islam, would turn out to be a publicity coup for it.

We are now in a similar situation. If the GZM proponents win their case, and build the mosque, in the wider Islamic world, it would be seen that allah has yet again granted a tremendous victory to Muslims. If OTH, the said mosque has to shift its location, or is canceled altogether, then CAIR and all the other Islamic groups will be crying "foul", and seeking sympathy - Islam is being victimized.

Either way, this crisis is going to be milked for all its got.

The real aim of the controversy, like 9/11 itself, is to keep Islam right up there on the national and international agenda, i.e., making Islam preeminent, the one focus for all attention. Obama, willingly or unwittingly, has made this objective a reality, turning a NY city issue to an international one.

The real aim of the controversy though, like 9/11 itself, is to keep Islam right up there on the national and international agenda, i.e., making Islam pre-eminent, and the focus for all attention. Obama, willingly or unwittingly, has made this objective a reality, turning a NY city issue to an international one.

The more this controversy rages and polarises the America people, the greater a publicity disaster for the West this, and great propaganda boost for Islam.

It would appear that we are going to lose this battle either way. Not necessarily so. What some of the opponents have to do, is to seize this opportunity to tell the truth about Islam. That is, use the propaganda opportunity that has been created by Islamists to defeat their real purpose, of publicising for Islam – not just stop it but turn it against Islam. If some of the opponents can do this, the GZM proponents will themselves halt the controversy.

Mr Robert Spencer would be one person eminently qualified to reveal the ugly truth about Islam.

I hope Mr Spencer and Pamella Geller, see this post, and realize what the real objective of the GZM is .

Fscarn

The GMZ controversy is not about the GMZ mosque, or even the triumphalist proclamation of Islam on the site of its first North American victory, but an opportunity for keeping Islam preeminent in the public eye. Obama may backtrack now, but that is not the point. He has succeeded in raising the profile of Islam to the international plane, which was never there in the first place.

You are right. The only way to defeat this, is to defeat the prime objective, and better still, to make it counterproductive.

The following

Robert Spencer,
Pamela Geller,
David Horowitz

are the best to seize the opportunity that the GMZ proponents have created to raise Islam, and use it to expose the reality of Islam.

How can the mosque be about freedom of religion when the leaders of the mosque will be teaching against freedom of religion? How much freedom of religion do Muslims have under sharia law? How much freedom of religion do non-Muslims have in Muslim-ruled countries? How much freedom of religion would the leaders of this mosque grant us if they were running our country?

Imam Rauf's mosquerade is over. He's like a dead cat that's been ripening on the porch. The stench is so strong he can no longer be ignored. Not even Obama, Islam's latest pimp, can cram this bucket of excrement down the public's throat. Rauf is better off were he is now, at taxpayer's expense, hiding his head in the Dar al-Islam sand.

The moment I navigated to this The End Of Nations Hubpages article I determined that Jihad Watch readers must express their opinion on this: http://hubpages.com/hub/Global-Union-The-End-Of-Nations