New York state high school exam slams Christianity, praises Islam

"Christian buildings often constructed on sites of destroyed native temples in order to symbolize and emphasize the substitution of one religion by the other." That certainly happened in Christian history, but it happened much more frequently in Islamic history -- as with the Ground Zero mega-mosque today. "HS test 'slams' Christianity, lauds Islam," by Yoav Gonen in the New York Post, August 24:

State testmakers played favorites when quizzing high-schoolers on world religions -- giving Islam and Buddhism the kid-gloves treatment while socking it to Christianity, critics say.

Teachers complain that the reading selections from the Regents exam in global history and geography given last week featured glowing passages pertaining to Muslim society but much more critical essay excerpts on the subject of Christianity....

The most troubling passage came from Daniel Roselle's "A World History: A Cultural Approach," observers said.

The passage reads: "Wherever they went, the Moslems [sic] brought with them their love of art, beauty and learning. From about the eighth to the eleventh century, their culture was superior in many ways to that of western Christendom."

Meanwhile, an excerpt listing the common procedures used by Christian friars to introduce the religion in Latin America stated that "idols, temples and other material evidences of paganism [were] destroyed," and "Christian buildings [were] often constructed on sites of destroyed native temples" -- and built with free Indian labor, to boot....

The Muslim reading:

* "Wherever they went, the Moslems [sic] brought with them their love of art, beauty and learning. From about the eighth to the eleventh century, their culture was superior in many ways to that of western Christendom.

* "Some of the finest centers of Moslem life were established in Spain. In Cordova, the streets were solidly paved, while at the same time in Paris people waded ankle-deep in mud after a rain. Cordovan public lamps lighted roads for as far as ten miles; yet seven hundred years later there was still not a single public lamp in London!"

Source: Daniel Roselle, A World History: A Cultural Approach

The Christian reading:
Common Procedures used by Friars in Converting Areas in Spanish America:

* "Idols, temples and other material evidences of paganism destroyed."

* "Christian buildings often constructed on sites of destroyed native temples in order to symbolize and emphasize the substitution of one religion by the other."

* "Indians supplied construction labor without receiving payment."

* "In a converted community, services and fiestas were regularly held in the church building."

Source: Based on information from Charles Gibson, Spain in America

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The passage reads: "Wherever they went, the Moslems [sic] brought with them their love of art, beauty and learning. From about the eighth to the eleventh century, their culture was superior in many ways to that of western Christendom."

That's like saying that the original owners of Carl's Jr. have always taken great pride in offering low-fat, low-calorie, non-artery-clogging food since the inception of that fast-food chain.

there is no shortage of dhimmis in USA. This is when Muslims have yet taken over USA. Imagine what would happen when USA goes Islamic!!! Complete rewriting of history would be the first order of the day after beheading all those MSM and cultural PC elites who help Muslims take over the country.

While the following piece was put up just a few days ago, perhaps even now it is not to soon to repost it:


Fitzgerald: Islam's Double-Faced Triumphalism: Destruction and Mosque-Building

A Hamas leader recently approved of the mosque at Ground Zero, saying: "We have to build everywhere."

How many mosques have been built in this country already, thanks in large part to the nearly one hundred billion dollars that Saudi Arabia alone has spent to spread Islam over the past few decades, in the United States? How many tens of thousands of mosques in recent decades all over the countries of the West have been built, and how many madrasas? Who pays for such things as the mosque, for only 100 families, that cost fifteen million dollars, in Billerica, Massachusetts? Who pays for all of those lavish palaces all over the place, that could not possibly have been put up by those who go to them? Who pays for the campaigns of Da'wa targeted at prisoners? Who pays for the Qur'ans sent out by the millions in the Western world? Who understands that a mosque is far more than a "place of worship" as some fondly believe but is, rather, a place where far more than that goes on, where politics, and geopolitics, are inculcated, where -- at least in Western Europe and in south Asia -- again and again and again it has been observed that people are whipped up at the khutbas (the sermons at the Friday Prayers), so much so that maddened Muslims coming out of mosques have gone on rampages against non-Muslims.

A particularly memorable example is that of the helpless Hindu who, happening to pass by as Friday Prayers were being let out, was beaten to death by Muslims who were just coming out of that "house of worship." How many raids, on how many mosques, have been conducted in Western Europe, where false papers of all kinds, and weapons, and explosives, were found, some in false ceilings and other hiding places? When Erdogan said that "the mosques are our barracks," he was quoting a well-known line, one that expressed a view that many Muslims have -- the "mosque" is not only or merely a "house of worship" but the "barracks" in the permanent war that exists, that must exist, between Muslim and Infidel.

How many mosques have been deliberately built deliberately using the remains of temples, churches, synagogues? How many mosques were built in India, after Muslim invaders destroyed Hindu temples and temple complexes, including many of the most important ones, and quarried the stone to make mosques? Nor were Hindus the only ones to suffer. Hindu temples and temple complexes disappeared by the hundred, by the thousands. Sita Ram Goel published a two-volume work that simply listed, name by name, those Hindu temples and temple complexes known to have been destroyed by Muslims, and the stone quarried for use in mosques.

We all know, because of the diligent scholarship of Indian and British scholars, along with others from other Western lands, such as Koenraad Elst and Francois Gautier, what the Muslim invaders, the Muslim conquerors, the Muslim masters of India, did to India's Hindus, so damaging "the wonder that was India" that it became what V. S. Naipaul famously called a "wounded civilization." Everywhere the Muslims went they destroyed the monuments, and especially the temples and temple complexes, of the Hindus.The more famous and important the Hindu temple, the more important it was for Muslims to destroy it, to build right on its ruins, to declare - through such destruction followed by such building - that they indeed were visibly and permanently there, and there to stay, as the masters of the land. We have all heard about Babri Mosque built over the temple at Ayodha, but how many other celebrated temples and vast complexes were destroyed?

This practice of deliberately destroying the monuments and artifacts of non-Islamic civilization began at the very beginning of the Muslim conquest of India. Indeed, the very first mosque known to have been built in India was built using stone from a Jain temple (the Jains are those who refuse to kill, to hurt a fly). One opens "The World of Islam" by Ernst J. Grube (Curator, Islamic Department, Metropolitan Museum of Art), part of the series "Landmarks of the World's Art," and finds on p. 165 a picture of the "Kutb Mosque (Quwaat al-Islam) Delhi" shown and described:

"Built by Kutb al-din Aibak in his fortress of Lallkot near Old Delhi in 1193. This mosque is the earliest extant monument of Islamic architecture in India and its combination of local, pre-Muslim traditions and imported architectural forms is typical of the earliest period. The mosque is built on the ruins of a Jain temple..."

So the earliest "extant monument of Islamic architecture in India" was "built on the ruins of a Jain temple" -- that temple being made into "ruins," of course, by the Muslim invaders.

Wherever Muslim invaders went and conquered, they did not do so always by outright military means with an invading army, as in the case of the East Indies, where Hadrami traders came and settled, bringing Islam with them. What began as trading outposts became settlements that, in turn, became fortified, and places from which the Muslims would conduct campaigns of Da'wa. They deliberately targeted local rulers in the East Indies that were once entirely Hindu and Buddhist. And if those rulers, as in Java and Sumatra, could be persuaded to convert to Islam, their people would, in those simpler days of cuius regio, eius religio, would then "convert" their people, who would have little choice but to follow their lead. It happened in Java. It happened in Sumatra.

You can still find, especially on Bali, with its considerable Hindu population, Hindu and Buddhist structures. You can even find the celebrated Borubudur stupa, and you are delighted - are you not, but now with a pang knowing what you know, and what you fear could happen - to find such structures. After all, the two gigantic Bamiyan buddhas seemed exempt from destruction by the Muslims who reduced so much of the Greco-Bactrian civilization to rubble. Why did they wait so long? Because they had to, because until recently they didn't have the right explosives, nor the proper expertise, until Pakistani and Saudi engineers came along to help them.

How many Buddhist structures remain in the most heavily Muslim parts of the East Indies, that is, Indonesia, such as Aceh? Where are all the Hindu and Buddhist temples that once could be found everywhere in the East Indies, for they were Hindu and Buddhist, until the forces of Islam conquered -- not by direct military conquest as in the Middle East, North Africa, and India, but through other means. Where did they all go?

An early Umayyad caliph decided that "the furthest mosque" (al-masjid al-aksa), that mysterious place from which Muhammad was said to ascend to the Seventh Heaven on his winged horse Al-Buraq, and then return within the same 24-hour period, should be located in Jerusalem, a city never of Muslim interest (not mentioned even once in the Qur'an). Why did he decide that surely the place referred to must be Jerusalem, and the very spot from which the "Miraj" or Night Journey took place must surely be right on the highest spot, the one holiest of all those in the world to Jews, that is, the Temple Mount? It was there that the Mosque of Omar and the Dome of the Rock lay claim to Jerusalem for Islam, as over against the claims of the prior-in-time monotheisms, Judaism and Christianity.

If the association and significance of the Temple Mount for Jews is clear, it might be noted that the celebrated Arabic-and-Aramaic philologist Christoph Luxenberg studied closely the Arabic-language inscriptions that are inside and very high up in the dome itself of the Dome of the Rock. He has argued that these are not, as everyone seems to assume, Qur'anic -- i.e., Muslim -- in nature but are, rather, Christian in their content, which suggests a Christian origin for the building.

What Muslims did in placing a mythical mosque ("al-masjid al-aksa") right there, and then building on the holiest site to Jews, in a city holy to Jews and Christians, was staking a claim that only other Muslims might believe. After all, you have to believe that a man named Muhammad had a fabulous creature, Al-Buraq, upon which he went back and forth to the Seventh Heaven, and then you further have to accept that "al-masjid al-aksa" must be a reference to Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.

But you do not have to be a Believer in Judaism to know that for more than a thousand years the Jews had made their capital, spiritual and political, in Jerusalem, where their history was made. You do not have to be a Believer in Christianity to know that Christianity has its origins in what Christians call the Holy Land, and especially in events that took place in Jerusalem. That difference matters.

In Damascus itself, the famous Umayyad mosque, the one that is shown to all visiting dignitaries, turns out to have been built on the ruins (or in some cases parts of the church left not in ruins, but simply incorporated) of the famous church dedicated to St. John The Baptist. It took a while, however, for this to happen. After all, whenever the marauding Arabs, bringing Islam with them, conquered, they found established communities of Christians, Jews and, in Persia, Zoroastrians. These people did not disappear; they were not converted in large numbers overnight. It took centuries of having to endure Muslim rule, and the status of being reduced to tolerated dhimmis, that is, a status of humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity, that led inexorably to more and more people converting to Islam, to join the group of permanent overlords and masters. The pace of such conversion quickened as those who had remained steadfast saw so many others convert, thereby changing their status and at once improving their treatment. In the 7th century, after the Muslim Arabs had conquered Damascus in 635 A.D., local Christians (who were by far the majority still) continued to worship in several churches. They even continued to worship at St. John's, though now confined only to the western aisle, while Muslims used the eastern. The Muslim overlords were still vastly outnumbered, as they were everywhere in the lands the Arabs conquered, and had to proceed slowly. Eventually, about seventy years after the initial conquest, the Umayyad caliph Abd el-Melek took over the entire St. John's for Muslim use - that is, St. John's became an Umayyad mosque, and with building, and rebuilding, and destruction of parts that had been St. John's, and the use of the stone, and the turning to other uses of some of its walls, what had been the Church of St. John became the Umayyad Mosque we see today, a symbol of Umayyad power and might and of the victory over the local Christians.

In Constantinople, which for a thousand years was the largest, richest, most populous city in all of Christendom, there were hundreds of churches. The greatest of them all was the Hagia Sophia.

On May 29, 1453, after centuries of first the Seljuk, then the Osmanli Turks seizing control of ever larger parts of what had been the Byzantine Empire, the Muslim invaders finally conquered Constantinople. They razed many of the churches in the city. Western visitors can find a diorama of Constantinople, showing its hundreds of churches before the Muslim conquest, and be amazed at how on every corner there seemed to be another church. That diorama is discreetly tucked away on an upper floor of the Museum of Greek and Roman Antiquities, in the Topkapi complex, in present-day Istanbul. But not all the churches were razed. And the Hagia Sophia was not razed, but was turned into a mosque, a sign of what Mehmet Fatih, Mehmet the Conqueror, had done, a symbol of Muslim triumph.

Two decades ago, as Muslims began to make their demands on the host countries that had so generously and heedlessly allowed them to settle deep within Western Europe, that is, behind the borders that Muslims themselves were taught to regard as enemy lines, the lines of Dar al-Harb, the Domain of War, in Italy President Pertino thought that Muslims in Italy might respond with gratitude, and Muslims outside of Italy might even make it more possible for the millions of Christians, both indigenous and among the millions of guest-workers in the rich oil states of the Gulf, to open churches and to practice their faith. It was not to be. Government land was donated for the building of a huge mosque, not a mile from the Vatican, but when it was built, and when the Arab Ambassadors arrived at the ceremonies to open the mosque, there was no talk of gratitude, and certainly no talk of any reciprocal gesture, by any Arab or Muslim state, anywhere. Italian witnesses of the event spoke of the air of triumphalism, the palpable feeling that a beachhead for Islam had, with this giant mosque, been created. Those Italians who watched, with growing unease, would have been still more uneasy, had they known that among Muslims there is a belief, based on a story, or Hadith, about Muhammad predicting that first Constantinople or Rum (Byzantium) would fall to Islam, and then Rome, the Rome in Italy, would fall to Islam. The giant mosque was a symbol for Pertini, and other Italians, of Western, of Italian, tolerance and goodwill and trust. But for the Muslims present, the giant mosque built on land donated by the Italian state had nothing to do with tolerance, or trust, or good will that needed to be, or might be, reciprocated by the Muslim beneficiaries of that tolerance, that trust, that good will.

And Mayor Bloomberg, who has confused himself with President George Washington, and the Grand Zero Mosque with the Touro Synagogue in Portsmouth, Rhode Island, and Feisal Abdul Rauf, a most cunning and most sinister man (to fully understand both adjectives, however, you would have to know him not as Mayor Bloomberg knew him, as an ingratiating, even oily, interlocutor, but through his books, the Arabic and English versions of which can be compared) with Moses Seixas, is now making the same mistake.

[Posted by Hugh on August 19, 2010]

"On May 29, 1453, after centuries of first the Seljuk, then the Osmanli Turks seizing control of ever larger parts of what had been the Byzantine Empire, the Muslim invaders finally conquered Constantinople. They razed many of the churches in the city."

For this and all other bad things that any Muslim ever did in the history of Islam, I am so sorry. Please accept my humblest apology. I promise never to build another mosque on top of a church ever again.

White Americans held slaves until forced to stop at the point of a gun - there is no collective guilt there, nor should there be. But I am supposed to feel guilt for something that my ancestors didn't even do (my ancestors are from a minority ethnic group that converted to Islam late in history).

If you can judge me based on such ancient history, am I allowed to judge you based on yours? What's good for me is good for you too, right? But I'm not so intellectually dishonest.

Dr. Walter Williams stated yesterday that the U.S. Dept of State has "millions in their budget" for rebuilding mosques in places like Egypt, Kosovo, Yemen,...sickening. Not a cent for churches.Why should any religious building be rebuilt using State Dept. money, much less the enemy's?

Certainly churches were built over pagan shrines, usually by the former pagans themselves. And this includes barbaric Aztec sites of human sacrifices.

This is more than equivocation, it's lying.

Let's talk about the kaffur survivors, the ones who were not killed defending the Hagia Sophia, the ones whose corpses were not trampled by the Mohammedans on horseback on the way to desecrate the sanctuary: the slaves of dhimmitude who toiled for their Muslim masters, with their eyes lowered, in accordance with the code for dhimmis.

Westerners and Americans in particular have not been "keeping score and taking names" for the past 1,378 years of Islamic onslaughts, and this is what you get.

This Islamic subversion of all levels of education is an ongoing process in every country in the West where they have a presence: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/islamic-infiltration-and-subversion-of.html

I am so sick and tired of hearing about how wonderful Cordoba was. Why didn't the preparers of the exam mention that most of the Churches in Cordoba were destroyed during the CONQUEST. Half of the main church, St. Vincent's, which was left standing, was immediately appropriated for use by the Arab army and immigrants. Only decades later, there were so many Arab immigrants they "negotiated" (as if the Christians had any choice in the matter) to take over the rest of the church, promising the Christians they could build another church outside the city. I'm not sure if this church was ever built, but less than 100 years later, the Muslims issued a decree to destroy all newly built churches. That decree wasn't fully implemented because the Muslim army was busy elsewhere in Spain putting down rebellions by those pesky Christians in other parts of Spain that for some odd reason didn't appreciate the age of tolerance and enlightenment that the Muslims were offering them.

"White Americans held slaves until forced to stop at the point of a gun..."

Yusef,

You let out the parts about the Arab Islamic slave traders setting up and sustaining the centuries-old slave business...and those Arabs were just as white.

Greetings:

This is such a shame but, unfortunately, totally believable.

I went to a Catholic high school in the Bronx in the first half of the '60s. Back then, getting a New York State Regents diploma was thought to be a cut above getting a diploma from just your high school. There was no issue of "standardized testing" in those days and job interviewers often asked about what kind of high school diploma an applicant had received.

Nowadays, the left's assault on education tries to present "standardized testing" as a kind of academic waterboarding and when they can't eradicate it entirely, they revert to the "long march through the institutions" approach to turn the tests into a propaganda vehicle.

and did you know they invented coffee and the bag pipes .. blah blah blah

I think YusefYK is misunderstanding something here: we are not discussing a collective guilt but a lesson from the past for the present and the future. In order that we may avoid the disasters Islam brought upon the infidel's population, belief, land and culture.
The Arabs are continually reminding themselves and us of their expansion during those heady early days of conquest and consolidation: I have yet to see anything but glorification and celebrations being put forward, and definitely nothing similar to collective guilt. Not that I care anyway: I think of it as a warning.

and saladin invented the fridge freezer for making a refreshing frappachino

No, you're not supposed to feel guilty IF you sincerely condemn such pratice and find it appalling. And no one would blame islam today if muslims weren't still engaged in the same endeavor to eradicate all non-muslim cultures, religions, monuments and lifestyles.

Until muslims give up their evil ways we can't forgive and forget. Just like we couldn't stop blaming and fighting germans until Nazism was defeated.

Having said that, christians aren't completely off the hook either on this crime. They are still active, mainly the evangelical US churches, on organized missionary activity with the stated goal to convert entire non-muslims areas to christianity. In the Brazilian Amazon, these missionaries aren't allowed to proselytize anymore and the government is now trying its best to maintain these people's cultural and religious identity, a concept some fanatical christians have a hard time to understand, except for their own, the only TRUE one, of course. They need to evolve, this issue concerns them too.

You let out the parts about the Arab Islamic slave traders setting up and sustaining the centuries-old slave business...and those Arabs were just as white.

He also left out the part of how slavery of Africans in the Arab world persisted long after it was abolished in the US (slavery of whites was formally abolished in 1830, although it persisted on the black market for many decades). I have a book written in Jerusalem in the 1860's that attest to that. The Ottoman empire didn't formally abolish slavery of Africans until 1880, and then only under pressure from Britain. Even so, they didn't even try to enforce the ban until the 1890's.

For this and all other bad things that any Muslim ever did in the history of Islam, I am so sorry. Please accept my humblest apology. I promise never to build another mosque on top of a church ever again.

I guess I can't say anymore I've never heard a Muslim apologize for Islamic history. Although his apology sounds sarcastic, but whatever.

Muslims don't have to apologize for Islamic history, any more than I, a citizen of the USA, need to apologize for US misdeeds throughout her history. What I think is horrible is when Muslims, and others, don't recognize or care that the Muslim conquest of the Middle East, half of Africa and Asia, and much of Europe was horrific and bloody, imperialist, colonialist, supremacist. All the things they accuse the West of being. Or that they think that the dhimma system was a just and wonderful way to treat non-Muslims. Nobody can claim the moral high ground here on the basis of history. The West, at least, is somewhat trying to come to grips with its history. I see no such soul-searching in the Arab/Muslim world. All I see is praise and glorification and whitewashing of Arab/Muslim history, and that is scary. If we do not learn from our mistakes, we are bound to repeat them.

Now we are mentioning slavery: on the net we can very easily find Islamist sites saying slavery is good, benign and benevolent.
After all the Muslim prophet Muhammad did not abolish it and taking slaves is an integrated and important part of the Quran. Throughout the Caliphate there was a massive influx of slaves, it is a history of slave rebellions, slave soldiers, raids for slaves.
Hindu Kush= "Hindu Slaughter". All Pakistanis must have a quantity of forebears who were dragged off for the slave markets in the House of Islam.

Yusef, we can judge you and Islam on history from any year between 610 AD and 2010 and it all comes out the same. There is this constant in Islam which calls for the slaying of infidels, forcing women into hideous garments, intolerance, enslavement, misogyny, bigotry, prejudice, murderlust, barbarism, brutality, destruction of anything of beauty or worth, bestiality and debauchery, which is just as endemic today as what it was in 623, 823, 1523 or 1823. So away you go, barbarian to your Islamic hellhole from whence you came.

And Saudi Arabia didn't officially abolish slavery until 1962, but kafir slaves aren't seen as slaves. Slavery still exists in the Islamic world, and won't go away anytime soon.

Not to mention that "whites" are the only ones who ever bothered to apologize about slavery, and anything else we ever might have done wrong.

Oh, and not to mention the Arab on black and black on black slavery that is still rampant in Africa.

Yusef, you need not apologize. But don't mention slavery - Muslims are involved up to their necks in it.

However, I know Sudanese men and women who were offered three options by their Muslim overlords: (1) convert to Islam; (2) become a slave; (3) die. The Lost Boys of Sudan were among those who fled Sudan to become refugees in Kenya, and some now live in the U.S.

It is interesting how imperialism is a "golden age" when practiced by Muslims, but evil when practiced by others.

Yusuf, I pray for you and your co-religionists daily. God bless you.

Quick, someone please come up with something the Arabs have invented, in order to reach out to them.

I accept your apology, Yusef. Now if you could just have the rest of the moronic Muslim population apologize, too.

It might be worth mentioning that the reason slavery was abolished was in large part due to many "white" abolitionists, who had a great part in changing public opinion about slavery. They used their voices, time and personal funds to promote freedom for American slaves.

Forget what passes for moderate muslims reinvesting 1/10th a billion in our wasted oil money to build a giant mosque- this is WAY more important.

The brainwashing of children like this will ensure Christian self-hating and an idealization of all things Islamic.

Why is "[sic]" added after every use of the word "Moslem"? As Fowler's "Modern English Usage" (second edition) says: "The OED treats the first [i.e., 'moslem']as the ordinary English form, but muslim has since gained on it." Gained on, but not (I hope) totally displaced, it. (And if people don't like the work "Moslem," perhaps I should just use the good old English word "Mahometan.")

This is nothing but the subliminal teaching of self-hatred and the inculcation of a stilted, indeed false, understanding of history. As an old Yiddish aphorism states: "A halbe emes iz a gontse ligent" or "A half-truth is a complete lie."

Christian holy places WERE often erected on formerly pagan sacred sites. This is nothing new.

Muslim spots were not only built on formerly Jewish, pagan, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Buddhist, and Christian holy sites, Islam ITSELF is an example of blatant perversion and destruction of those belief's ancient and organic faith experiences. How so? Christian, Zoroastrian, pagan, and particularly Jewish prophets, events, sacred sites, etc. were flagrantly expropriated, their individual origins and history deliberately distorted and converted into MUSLIM prophets, holy sites, and concepts, while their true inheritors and protectors were said to have themselves distorted and perverted their messages. Thus, all the prophets of Israel, indeed the true Jews themselves, were turned into Muslims, while their Jewish guardians and inheritors were disposessed by being labeled perverters and upstarts. Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Yakov, Job, Kings David and Solomon, even Jesus of Nazareth himself, all were "magically" transformed into Muslims.

For those of us familiar with the revisionist perversion of thought, emotion, and history as portrayed and condemned in the classic book 1984, it is not a reach to put Islam on the same level as the Ingsoc "true believers" who perverted the English language and made the original emotions behind the language's words and thoughts totally unrecognizable even though the newly created words bore a superficial resemblence to the old English language.

Orwell was very much a prophet for the modern world.

Christianity's crimes are happily historical.

Islam's are integral.

The Koran's malignancies are "eternal", not temporal.

That is the Problem with Mohammadism.

How to Reform this faith of the Sword when homicidal imams and ayatollahs and freelance terrorist jihadis for Allah kill those who dare

Or anyone who even tries to leave the Submission deathcult.

The whitewashing of the blackest bile of the pedophile "prophet" and his Killer Koran is one of the most dangerous apects of the anarchistic Suicide of the West.

"From about the eighth to the eleventh century, their [the Moslems'] culture was superior in many ways to that of western Christendom."

In a very careful choice of words, this line is more significant for what it leaves unsaid than for what it says. For one thing, it takes Islamic culture at its greatest period and compares it to Western culture at one of its weakest periods. Tenth-century Cordoba may have been brilliant, but less so than first-century Rome. For another, it carefully limits the comparison to Western Christendom. Why? Because the capital of Eastern Christendom -- Constantinople -- was more "brilliant" than Cordoba, just as other Eastern Christian capitals -- like Alexandria and Antioch -- had been before their despoliation by the Islamic conquerors.

And it is important to remember that the Byzantine empire had been blasted back by the efforts to oppose Islam. I believe there is almost a century around 750 AD when everything Christendom could mobilize went into resisting the Arab onslaughts on the very centers of European civilization.

It left a devastated Asia Minor, a curtailment of anything social, religious and cultural that did not matter in fighting the Arab. Even Byzantine history books and recountings of current events are strangely silent.

YusefYK sez:

"White Americans held slaves until forced to stop at the point of a gun - there is no collective guilt there, nor should there be. But I am supposed to feel guilt for something that my ancestors didn't even do (my ancestors are from a minority ethnic group that converted to Islam late in history).

If you can judge me based on such ancient history, am I allowed to judge you based on yours? What's good for me is good for you too, right? But I'm not so intellectually dishonest."

He forgets to mention that Slavery in America lasted only briefly and was abolished by "whitey"...and that the former slaves were freed and their decendants remain so today...

Quite possibly his ancestors who converted to Islam may have done so under the threat of the sword....this is an Islamic time honored tradition that continues even to this day....and as we know ...once you convert to Islam you could die if you try to leave it....Islam doesn't like apostates...

America has a history of trying to right wrongs...Islam continues to encourage wrongs....Where Islam has gone peoples lives and lifestyles have been destroyed..sometimes forever...Islam is the religion of forever misery....need proof?....just look at any country that Islam has conquered and stayed...nothing but constant turmoil, misery, povery, hate..and death...always the death...Islam has a blood history...Islam even has blood rituals....

Islam is a blood religion...past...present...and future...


Is Islam truly a "religion"?...one has to wonder...

I said..."Quite possibly his ancestors who converted to Islam may have done so under the threat of the sword"

I would add that Muslims in prisons today are forceably converting other prisoners to Islam...those that refuse are brutualized...often killed..

Muslims are terrorizing non Muslim communities across the globe and forceably converting their inhabitants...those that refuse are brutalized...often killed

Muslims are terroring non Muslim school children especially the weaker ones and those without protection or protectors and forcing them to accept Islam...those that refuse are constantly picked on and tormented...often beaten and tormented....

Muslims are often kidnapping little Christian girls and "converting" them to Islam and then refusing to return them to their families.....

Slavery is gone from America but it is alive and well in Islam.....even today...Slavery is an Islamic tool ...just as it has always been...

"If you can judge me based on such ancient history, am I allowed to judge you based on yours?"

Judge you? I don't even care about you.

Does the cirriculum guide mention the Muslims love of stoning. severing heads or severing hands?

Much the same thing is happening elsewhere, too:

Aussie Muslims and Curriculum Corruption

Please don't take it personally. People are merely expressing their outrage against the heavily slanted teaching in their children's schools.

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