Oh, waiter: Ground-Zero Gamal won't answer questions about his real estate dealings

The thug who lost his cool yesterday, snapping at the press and acting as if he had something to hide, apparently has a lot to hide.

Why would the Ground Zero mosque proponents employ what is, by all appearances, the worst possible man to conduct a supposedly open and transparent fundraising process? Obviously, it should call their sincerity into question. "No Answers from Developer of Mosque Near Ground Zero," by Charles Leaf for Fox NewYork, August 25:

MYFOXNY.COM - While Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf has dominated headlines about the proposed cultural center and mosque near Ground Zero in lower Manhattan, developer Sharif el-Gamal, 37, is actually the central figure behind the project.
Yet just a few years ago, el-Gamal was waiting tables in some fancy Manhattan restaurants.
Naturally, we wanted to talk to Sharif el-Gamal to learn more about the man and his plans, but apparently he didn't want to meet us. We made repeated requests for a sit down interview with him, left him multiple voice mail messages and he never returned any of our calls. We even went to his office and talked to colleagues, but we were turned away. He left us with no choice: We had to go find him.
El-Gamal is an American Muslim reportedly born to a Polish mother and an Egyptian father. He was raised in Brooklyn.
Today, el-Gamal's company, Soho Properties, owns the building where arguably the most controversial mosque in the world will be built. He bought the old Burlington Coat Factory building at 45 Park Place, two blocks from the World Trade Center site, for $4.8 million in cash in 2009.
We asked him where he got the money to put down on the property, but he stayed silent when we approached him.
His newfound notoriety was an extraordinary leap from his not-too-distant days as a waiter at Serafina, a trendy Upper East Side eatery, and at Michael's, an upscale celebrity-filled restaurant packed with a veritable who's who in media.
El-Gamal's former restaurant bosses and co-workers told Fox 5 that the young and opportunistic el-Gamal thrived on the buzz from bumping elbows with marquee names and relished the opportunity to schmooze the high dollar clientele.
"Customers would come in and ask for him, he had his regulars," said Cosmo Sammarone, a Serafina waiter.
El-Gamal left Serafina in 2002 and started selling real estate. But in just a year, he went from broker to business owner and launched his own real estate company, Soho Properties, in 2003. Records show he is the president and chief executive officer.
A long-time associate of his says el-Gamal isn't quite who he seems to be. The associate asked Fox 5 to protect his identity because he fears retribution.
"I was pretty much in shock when I saw him on the news as the developer," the associate said. "What I can say about Sharif is nothing good.
He said el-Gamal liked living in the fast lane, meeting celebrities in the restaurants were he worked, and partying with them at nightclubs.
"Very persuasive, master manipulator," he said of el-Gamal.
Today, el-Gamal's holdings included at least four buildings in Manhattan, including the site near Ground Zero, one in Chelsea, and two residential buildings in Washington Heights, where tenants seem to like him.
Records show el-Gamal bought the Washington Heights properties in 2007 for a little less than $3 million each.
Ken Brandman, president of N.Y. Commercial Real Estate Services, knows el-Gamal well. He, too, was a bit surprised to hear el-Gamal is the developer in the mosque near Ground Zero.
"I don't think he has a lot of money," Brandman said. "I'm sure he didn't buy it with his own money."
Soho Properties bought the site for the mosque for $4.8 million in cash. Just four months later, with Manhattan's real estate market collapsed, el-Gamal made an even bigger deal.
With credit super tight, and prices plummeting, he paid $45 million for a 12-story commercial building in Chelsea that sold three years earlier for $31 million.
"It seems like a lot of pay in a downturn, considering it went for considerably less during the boom," said Stuart Elliott, the editor of Real Deal magazine.
El-Gamal, the waiter turned mogul, plunked down another $5 million as down payment on the Chelsea building.
"Something's up with that deal," Ken Brandman said. "Unless someone gave him a lot of money, or he won the lottery, than somebody else put up the money."
Fox 5 News has learned that el-Gamal did have help from a man named Hisham Elzanaty. Mortgage documents show that Elzanaty is the guarantor on the $39 million loan el-Gamal's company secured to buy the building....
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I'm sure this turkey has connections, mostly, if not entirely, not of the good and right kind, and I'm sure he is no good for America. I guess we'll all have to stay tuned for more, but the more we find out about him won't redound to his credit I'd wager. Lesson here: Expose an Islam backer and expose an enemy of liberty.

Marisol, who are you? You write a lot like Robert Spencer. Your style and Robert's style are nearly indistinguishable. Are you related to Robert Spencer? Did you learn from Robert Spencer?

Marisol,Henry Crux and Heck and a bunch of others really really do love you and understand what you are doing - good show - perfect! Also, keep in mind that probably every Mosque in the United States has revealing ties to Terrorist groups, and the governments and charities and organization that are friends with these Terrorist groups. Even a relatively small connection is enough to open eyes that will never close again, but stay peeled on the Religious Terrorist Death Threat. This is the only way to get them once and for all, and there are a lot of people out there who have the skills and the interest to track down all these financial transactions - oxoxooooxooxxoxooxoxooxoxooxoooxoxoooooxxxxxooooooxxxxxoooooxx

He has a silent partner(s) who is using him as a front man. The only time you do this is not to call attention to the real money man who generally is either a criminal or unsavory as hell that will kill the deal.

And this makes El-Gamal basically a puppet. You need to find out who are his silent partners. That will tell you everything.

Whoever they are, they have to be really bad to go through a front man like this.

"This whole question has been around for months. During that entire time the developer said that they owned the entire property. Now it turns out that they don’t own half of it."

“When they tell us that the funding for the project is going to be fine but they won’t tell us what it is, they also told us that they owned the property but they didn’t. To me it’s just another question that goes to their credibility, goes to their integrity and goes to the whole issue of what else they could be hiding.”

~ Congressman Peter King, R-N.Y.

I can't help but wonder why, Andrew Cuomo, the New York State Attorney General, and wanna be NYS Governor, is so quiet about the issue of the GZM sources of funding...

Cuomos office has done some good work, especially in routing out, and prosecuting, Medicaid fraud cases.

But if El- Gamel were a known Wall Street figure, Andy, and his hordes of state investigators, would have swooped down on EL- Gamel, like a pack of vultures on a dead camel, in the desert.

But he is strangely silent about the mosque funding issue, and has only said that he supports the right of the building owners to build a mosque a at Park51..

It looks to me like the tough, hands on, New York State Attorney General, is rather selective when it comes to investigations.

It couldn't possibly be vote garnering, in the great Blue state of New York now, can it be, Andy ?

My guess is that el-Gamel met a wealthy petroMuslim during his fancy waiter gig. He apparently has a lot of charm and can use his status as an American to be a front man. More investigation needs to be done, though I doubt most MSM journalists care very much.

Watch this TIME video:

http://www.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,591015933001_2012328,00.html

They say they've already been praying at the Park51 site for the past 2 years! So if they've been praying there all this time, then how the hell do they claim it's not a mosque? How exactly is a mosque different from a place where they gather to pray? Doesn't this really amount to splitting hairs, or even doublespeak?

Look at all the people praying inside Park51 in this video - I fail to see how this isn't a mosque.

Just wanted to say a quick thanks to you, Robert, and Hugh, for everything that you do.


No Democrat is gonna touch El-Gammel period, the guy has protection from Bloomberg and other high Democratic mucky mucks. So forget about the so-called "authorities" doing anything except supporting the shit weasel.

You want to hurt him and other jihadists? Vote out that billionaire arch-Kapo Bloomberg and his tools.


It's at times like this you need Eminem to come in and sing "Slim Shady".

Good stuff Marisol...

They may well have over-reached themselves this time...normally they can hide these dealings in the commercial undergrowth but this project is going to have searchlights, laser beams and power torches shone on it from now and for however long it takes until they scuttle away with their tails between their legs...

Slightly on topic:

Time magazine photos of BCF damage:

http://www.life.com/image/1172256
http://www.life.com/image/1172258
http://www.life.com/image/1172260

This is interesting:

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/moretoastedcars.html

Ironically,it's a truther site, with damage pics taken near the BCF,on or the days after 9/11.What makes it interesting to me is the truther put a picture next to some of the damage photos,showing the photographers location and direction on view,some being close to,the BCF.He even calls it out on a map!(figure 10(b))Note the horrific damage to vehicles in the area.

That's Ground Zero.Most of Lower Manhattan is.

Only an a-hole would claim otherwise.

Gamal should have maintained the facade that he was a waiter. That's how Tony (Joe Batters) Accardo and Sam Giancana maintained their low public profiles in spite of being the head of the Chicago mafia. IIRC, Accardo claimed throughout his working life that he was a humble truck driver for a beer distributer.

Islamists don't even have the finesse that Joe Batters had, ROTFL!!!!

Thanks Marisol (I too have a bit of a crush on you AND Robert)
Seriously, you and RS and Hugh and the other brilliant people who are daily, steadily, honestly and without malice, revealing the truth about Islam and its operators deserve our very best prayers and thanks.

Follow the Money.......
Could Mayor Bloomberg’s Media Business Interests in the Middle East Have Anything to Do with His Support of the Ground Zero Mosque?
http://tinyurl.com/2g6que8

So, will it be 50,000,000 visitors on 29 August, the day commemorating the beheading of Saint John the Baptist for about a billion two hundred fifty million people around the world? :)

If there's one "inside job" that is and are going on,this mo(u)sq(e) is it..Please ask/demand/inquire the State Department/O for details/slaps in your face/libido..

Apparently some Moslems,including the recently stabbed taxi driver,are against this victory adjutant edifice of dubious nefariousness..Is a world-wide poll at all possible? If the results are deemed overwhelmingly for this monstrosity,should it be built? Then can we have a world-wide poll for Christian churches and Hindu and Buddhist temples in Saudi Arabia? With the majority gaining the right to do so?

In this dung-hill of creeps, the thuggish el-Kabong is their weakest link. He's arrogant. He's quick to anger. He's pushy, impatient and full of himself. He's accustomed to having his way with the kuffar. A typical poseur, as we say in the Wild West, "Big hat, no cattle!"

Unlike Feisal and Daisy, those masters of pathological muslim mendacity, this arrogant
phony can be had. Keep the heat on this shithead and watch him pop like a balloon!

..in a rain storm..Hat tip G..

..btw..First eighteen and now eight arrested in Canada on terrorist charges..Islam likes the number 19..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijackers_in_the_September_11_attacks
I do believe islam creates islamists..Therefore,I do believe,there should be no such an EVIL THING as islam..

Park51 developer Sharif El-Gamal has a history of run-ins with the law

BY JAMES FANELLI
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Years before his latest real-estate project ignited an uproar, Sharif El-Gamal racked up at least seven run-ins with the law, including a bust for patronizing a prostitute.

"I regret many things that I did in my youth. I have not always led a perfect life," El-Gamal, 37, said in a statement to the Daily News.

His most recent arrest was for a Sept. 10, 2005, assault on a barber who sublet a Manhattan apartment from El-Gamal's brother, Sammy.

The brothers and another man went to the apartment that afternoon to retrieve back rent from Mark Vassiliev, criminal and civil court records show.

El-Gamal allegedly cursed at Vassiliev, called him the Arabic curse word "sharmouta" and punched him in the face, breaking his nose and cheekbones.

When he was arrested, El-Gamal denied he socked Vassiliev, but conceded, "[Vassiliev's] face could have run into my hand," court papers say.

"I am in real estate. I'm rich. Why would I do this? Why would I jeopardize my career? I'm not a thug," he told cops.

He was charged with misdemeanor assault and harassment. Charges were dropped in 2007 after Vassiliev sued.

El-Gamal eventually settled the civil case for $15,000 - and the 2008 negotiations provided a glimpse into his finances.

Vassiliev's lawyer, Erik L. Gray, said there was no indication El-Gamal had assets beyond a $1.1 million upper West Side pad he owned with his wife.

Even after El-Gamal inked the deal, he was slow to pay and the matter ended up in mediation - where his lawyer, Marshall Isaacs, told Gray there were money problems.

"He had told me [El-Gamal] was struggling financially and was having trouble coming up with the payment," Gray said. "It was based on the fact that he was in real estate and the real estate market was depressed."

El-Gamal agreed to fork over $1,360 in interest and fees but paid up in installments, Gray said.

If his 2008 cries of poverty were genuine, El-Gamal experienced a dramatic reversal of fortune a year later, scoring a $39 million mortgage to buy a W. 27th St. commercial building.

He had a partner, Egyptian-born businessman Hisham Elzanaty, who co-signed the loan. Elzanaty denied to discuss his dealings with El-Gamal.

In a deposition for the Vassiliev suit, El-Gamal testified he worked as a waiter from 1997 to 2001 when he "moved onto greener pastures."

In 2002, he became a commercial real estate broker and started his own company, Soho Properties, a year later.

El-Gamal began amassing a property portfolio in 2007, snatching up and managing apartment buildings in Harlem and Washington Heights.

He bought the property where he plans to build a $100 million Islamic cultural center, two blocks from Ground Zero, for nearly $5 million in July 2009.

The son of a bank executive, El-Gamal has said he turned to Islam after 9/11 and that his religious awakening followed a troubled youth.

He pleaded guilty in 1994, 1998 and 1999 to disorderly conduct in Manhattan.

He also pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in 1990, DWI in 1992 and attempted petit larceny in 1993, Nassau County prosecutors said.

Details were unavailable, but a source confirmed a 1994 arrest for patronizing a prostitute.

El-Gamal says he's a different man now.

"My faith teaches me every day about humility. I have been humbled by my imperfections. But my faith also teaches me about forgiveness," he said in the statement.

"While I might not be proud of some of my actions in the past, I am extremely proud of the Park51 project and what it will mean to thousands of New Yorkers of all faiths and denominations who live in Lower Manhattan."


Read more:
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/08/28/2010-08-28_park51_developer_sharif_elgamal_has_a_history_of_runins_with_the_law.html

OT: "July/August 2010 issue of the journal Child Development published the results of a study done between March 2003 and December 2005. It looked at more than 100 lower Manhattan mothers and their preschool children who were directly exposed to the 9/11 attack. The study found that mothers' disaster-related psychological problems had a stronger impact on preschoolers than did the children's direct exposure. Young children exposed to the 9/11 attacks whose moms had PTSD and depression were more likely to have clinically significant aggression, anxiety, depression, and sleep problems. The mothers' psychological well-being appeared to affect how well they helped their young children cope with exposure to disaster."

Rauf ... WTC rubble, US has more blood on it's hands than al Qaeda
Daisy ... critics are bigots

Rauf and Daisy need something stronger than a cultural center, they should both be in some kind of 'treatment'.

The Park51 interfaith swimming pool, yikes good luck with that.
Will lifeguards have to upgrade their sensitivity skills beyond that old-fashion Red Cross training.
In the UK, sharia compliant public pools are enforcing islamic rules on non-muslims, one pool decided to black out it's windows.

Great Stuff Deus! More ammo..Thanks!

Something to get your teeth into.....Robert, Hugh or Marisol?
Five myths about mosques in America
The Washington Post
By Edward E. Curtis IV
Sunday, August 29, 2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/26/AR2010082605510.html?hpid=topnews

From your linked article..
"particularly in states such as Michigan and New York. And according to a 2001 survey (the most recent national survey on mosques available) by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, they represented the plurality in only 15 percent of U.S. mosques."

You waste ours and theirs and everyone else's time..bogus BS..

..not to mention dated..cair could have mentioned that same crap yesterday..Mar?

You're actually citing purportably "factual references" from cair here? Answer please..unless Marisol has already banished you..my fervent hope..

I keep vacillating on how I believe this thing will turn out. I once thought it was inevitable. Then, when even some major Dems came out against, I thought there was irresistible momentum to stop it. After that, Bloomberg and the proponents dug in their heels, and again, there was the feeling of inevitability. It's just hard to say now.

I know one thing...Charles Krauthammer is right, the only way this thing goes away as an issue is if it's stopped. Otherwise, it's a festering sore in America's body politic...destined to become gangrenous to the electoral prospects of liberals in November.

Before you continue....

Read any of my other comments in the last few years?

..bogus BS
...that same crap yesterday

Great background information SP, clear, to the point and so well reasoned.
However,I rather wait for Robert, Hugh and\or Marisol's reaction to this so called factual article by Edward E. Curtis IV.
They will have the facts to counter this Liberal pseudo-intellectual claptrap.

Yes I have, which is precisely why I questioned myself in responding so coldly afterward..My sincerest apologies Andy..Gettin' old dammit..Glad you came back on me..

Follow the financial 'isnad' back far enough, and you'll find a willing facilitator of that 7th Century, paedophile, mass murderer at the end of the line. For sure!


Thank you for this information, Deus! Soooo, more than just a thug--he a CROOK with a long record! This is getting better every day!

Thank you, St. Patrick--I am a great admirer of your posts here!

"Waiter, there's a mosque in my soup!"
"No, it's not. It's a friendly, community center of the religion of peace."

Thanks George..Likewise Sir..Funnier than hell yet so bitingly witty..That you are..Take care G..

No problem St Patrick.

Did a little research myself.......

Myth 1
(Still a myth)

Edward E. Curtis IV states that in 1921, Sunni, Shiite and Ahmadi Muslims in Detroit celebrated the opening of perhaps the first purpose-built mosque in the nation. Funded by real estate developer Muhammad Karoub, it was just blocks away from Henry Ford's Highland Park automobile factory, which employed hundreds of Arab American men.

Hold on, in 1921 real estate developer Muhammad Karoub funded the first mosque?
....Muhammad Karoub wasn't even born yet.
See
Muhammad Adib Hussein Karoub (1924-1998) was imam of the American Moslem Mosque, Dearborn, Mich., and a founding member of the American Moslem Bekaa Center in Dearborn.
http://141.211.144.33/research/guides/arab_americans/arabam_search.php?sort=collection

They can't even agree on 'the facts'.

North Dakota Is Home to First U.S. Mosque, built around 1929 or 1930.
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/american-life/a-13-2005-10-20-voa14.html

In 1915, Albanian Muslims in Biddeford, Maine established the first effective Mosque in North America.
http://www.muslimsinamerica.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=28

The Mother Mosque of America in Cedar Rapids, Iowa is the oldest purpose-built mosque in the United States. A mosque is a house of worship for Muslims.The mosque was completed in 1934.
http://islam.about.com/od/mosques/p/mothermosque.htm

So Edward, when was the first mosque built? In 1915, 1921, 1929\1930 or 1934?
Was it in Biddeford - Maine, Ross - North Dakota, Cedar Rapids - Iowa or Dearborn - Michigan?

You must be some 'historian' Edward....
You and your muslim brothers seem a little confused on the facts.

It is a well known fact that the best buddy or family a property developer can have - besides someone to put up the actual money - is the mayor. It is the easy road to fame and fortune, and the mayor sees to it that questions are not asked the way questions should be asked. Check out the mayor of Moscow f.ex.

I must remember the quote by Deus_Vult!: Islam outlaws all the things that allow Bloomberg to tolerate it.

Hisham Elzanaty, the financier behind El-Gamal, is certainly not an unknown and not necessarily for the good. It's everything from contributions to politicians and to fraud suits. A common gangster dressed nicely?

Would he be the Hisham Elzanaty who lost both parents when the EgyptAir pilot dived the plane into the sea in '99?

or is that "ordinary gangster"?

" We asked him where he got the money to put down on the property, but he stayed silent when we approached him."

Yusef YK a wily venal troll here would know the answer as he/she/it is so overfamiliar with "horrid economics".

The funding most likely came from the most obvious source it always comes from, Saudi Arabia and to be precise the Saudi Royal family. They seem to be behind every major American Mosque and connected to several major terrorist events including 9/11. Osama Bin Laden, closest person to the Royal family with out being blood has pretty much in everyones eyes confessed to 9/11, nine of the 17 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. All though it seems Saudi claims that all 9 were mistaken identities and assures us their still alive and well. This I do believe because I can't imagine a Saudi blowing himself up for any reason when he can get someone else to do it for him. Great news for the real 9 hijackers though as this must mean a dock in virgins for going from a martyr to a nobody.
Now I'm not saying that the entire Saudi Royal family is involved being as the family numbers from 7000-25000, this happens when you have around 35 kids each but a look into their history does shed light on things. Early 1900's this family conquered Mecca and Medina in the name of a new Muslim religion that they invented which we know as Wahhabism a very strict form of the existing Muslim religion that the Prophet taught. Upon arrival at Mecca they desecrated grave sights including destroying the grave of the Prophet Muhammed himself and Abdul Aziz named himself King. At this point if you know anything about the story of Muhammed might seem a little strange. A King? I don't remember any Kings in the Muhammed story, in fact it seems that the all Muslims are equal theme had Muslims refusing to bow to no man but Allah. And destroying Muhammed's tomb, cartoons rage Muslims much less destroying the Prophets tomb.
The family was rather poor at this stage making money off taxing the people and money made from the pilgrimages to Mecca.
The US at this point was looking for a solution to an energy crisis that was around the corner. With oil deposits found in Iran the US was hoping that it could find oil in Saudi Arabia as well. They not just found oil but the largest supply of oil in the world. The US made a deal to protect the Royal Family for access to the oil, the Royal family makes money for the oil and distributes money as it sees fit. Today this family is stinking rich, spending money in a way that even the richest Capitalist would find excessive.
The description of the Royal family today matches the description of the Arabs that controlled Mecca and the Kaaba before Muhammed had liberated it.
Jihad refers to the struggle the Muslims had that led to the liberation of the Kaaba and it appears that it's still on. It would make more sense that Muslim terrorists would direct their efforts in that direction than toward the west. Of course Saudi terrorism toward the west helps spike oil prices. And who likes desecrating grave sights, well Wahhabis of course, case in point 9/11 grave sight.

That he turneed to islam after 9/11 says a lot about him.

Muslims are incredibly extremely cruel.Their religious upbringing is focussed on honing that cruelty , bestiality to remorseless perfection.Right from childhood.In swatting at any insect also they are taught to do it with concentrated vengeance.Followed by graduating to slaughtering a goat with the same disproportionately brutal force.

I had an Indian muslim hailing from Bombay (Mumbai)as my neighbour for some years. Now she lives in Canada. She told me very proudly how in Bombay a hindu boy for verbally bullying her son in school just once was handled as advised by her.

" I told my son to aim for his eyes & sock him hard...my son Salman can really pack a solid punch.... I was very happy to hear that hindu was wailing as his eyes were bleeding...".

She is more stylish and articulate than daisy khan with tinted hair. Their very attitude is unmitigated arrogance as though the entire world is theirs.I did not learn all this in one day. She and another Indian muslim were apparently friendly eating food cooked by me & talking shop. But their superciliousness & animosity towards the Infidels is something that just cannot be captured in words.

The islamists are THAT merciless & heartless.They know they are mighty Untouchables in this dhimmified world.

I so much wish there was a button I could click saying "read and appreciated".

El-Gamal left Serafina in 2002 and started selling real estate. But in just a year, he went from broker to business owner...

No one just becomes a real estate broker or agent...It requires a license...And no one can just go get a license...You have to go to school, and learn everything about real estate law and application, and pass a test, just to become an agent working for a broker...So when and where did Gamal go to real estate school, and when was he issued his license?

Looking just a bit further into real estate license in NYC...

Real Estate Agent applicants must be at least 18 years of age at the time you apply.
You must have successfully completed a Department of State approved 75-hour qualifying course. If you have completed the 45-hour salesperson qualifying course prior to July 1, 2008, you may complete the 30-hour remedial course in order to qualify for licensure.
You must be sponsored by a NY licensed real estate broker.(Who was that?)
You must pass the NY real estate salesperson examination.
You must not have any felonies on your record (exceptions may apply).
When you apply for your real estate license, you must have a photo on record at the NYS DMV. If you do not have a valid NYS Driver License or Non-Driver ID with photo, you must visit a DMV office to have your picture taken before applying for your real estate license.

Requirements for 'Broker'...
Real Estate Broker applicants must be 20 years of age or older.
You must have at least two years of experience as a licensed Salesperson. You can begin taking the Broker Course before all the required experience has been accumulated.
You must show proof of 3,500 points based on transactions as an agent or 5,200 points through equivalent experience in general real estate business. For more information on the point requirements and to print out an application, click here.
If you have enough related experience, you can get your Brokers license without having a Salesperson license, but you will need to take 120 hours of coursework, which includes both the Salesperson and Brokers courses.
The Broker Course qualifies for your 22.5-hour Continuing Education requirement after the completion of the school exam and 3.75 hours of Fair Housing.

Did Gamal really go through all that? And when?

Some people do not have hobbies and while they still have a tremendous energy and ambition they have nothing to divert them from their path. Eight hours work each day, rest are studies and sleep. They get through a lot more than I ever did.

Thanks. Keep up the good work.

Maybe so, but where is the evidence that Gamal actually complied with the above requirements...'You must be sponsored by a NY licensed real estate broker'....If we knew who that was, the plot might thicken a little...

" wishing I could travel back in time to tell the Marisol (yeah, it's a pseudonym) whose head spun in grief and bewilderment to the Sunday after 9/11 before breaking down utterly in the pew before Mass (and I wasn't alone there)"

I wonder if words of solace can heal Marisol.

But the unrepentent audacity of muslims is alarming.Those mythologies dealing with Angels & demons do make a lot of sense now.

Here is a good time to test the efficiency of the IRS which without any cause or motive can go and request all the financial records.But I would not stop there, how about the other guy that popped up ,the Egyptian.Member of the Muslim Brotherhood?

But like in the case of the Black Panthers,some strings will be pulled and nothing happens. WH interference?????

Congressman Peter King :

I admire your straight forwardness in your acts. We do not have the power other than to express our concerns and feelings, but you as a Congressman and from NY, does have the pull to incite an IRS investigation to these Muslim front men and also please include the 9 members of the commission in NY that approved this insult to not only New Yorkers , but to all Americans.I do not have proff but a 9 to 0 vote ????? Money is flowing from Saudi Arabia and the pockets are deep.

Oh, everyone has a friend who has friend who has cousin who knows someone. By that time the connection is far removed and easily deniable.

El-Gamal is a leech who has nothing to say. Probably doesn't know much, he is just a money-whore who is bought off by whoever pays the most. He is an out-front nobody who represents Mid-East terrorist money. He should be taken in for questioning and his money trail ascertained. Then he should be deported and his business assets frozen. The mega-Mosque financier's contacts will probably lead to Saudi or Syrian money. As usual, the mainstream media isn't covering it. We need Robert and Fox to provide the real news.

El Gamal,like Mohamed El Fayed who owns Harrod's stores in UK,is only a front man who got millions of money from devout Muslims to serve as a front business in the greater cause of global Islamization project.
El Fayed,received hundred millions of money from Brunei sultan to start business in UK to be a most prominent Muslim businessman who later became a well-known businessman and whose son Dodi Fayed successfully courted a very well-known
infidel princess Diana and caused a lot of uproar and national disgrace.
El Gamal received money provided by Saudis so that he can start developing this
mosque-building project.
THERE ARE IN FACT A LOT OF EL FAYED AND EL GAMALS WHO RECEIVE A LOT OF MONEY FROM EITHER SAUDIS OR ANY MUSLIM SOURCES SUCH AS LIBYA,IRAN,UAE,BRUNEI. THEIR MAJOR MISSION IS NOT ONLY TO START BUSINESS IN NON-MUSLIM COUNTRIES,BUT ALSO TO PROMOTE ISLAM IN MANY COUNTLESS WAYS.
NON-MUSLIM WORLD STILL DOES NOT NOTICE THIS HUGE SECRET PROJECT OF GLOBAL ISLAMIZATION GOING ON AMONG THEM.SURELY,WITHIN A FEW DECADES FROM NOW,NON-MUSLIM WORLD WILL BE IN DIRE STRAITS OF SURVIVAL.DAILY BOMBINGS,DRIVE-BY SHOOTINGS AND INTIMIDATIONS WILL BE A FACT OF LIFE EVEN IN USA FOR THOSE WHO DARE TO OPENLY QUESTION OR CRITISIZE ISLAM OR MUSLIMS !

You may be right, but I don't have an inclination to let Gamal off that easy...Whoever sponsored him is on record somewhere...It does not look to me like it is too hard to get real estate licenses, but he still had to jump through the hoops unless he found a way around them...

Two links posted in this thread show the reality of both school's of thought (or lack of it in so many) in the west today.

The uneducated dhimmi stooge:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/26/AR2010082605510.html?hpid=topnews


The enlightened freedom fighter:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Islam-outlaws-all-the-things-that-allow-Bloomberg-to-tolerate-it-619334-101670068.html#ixzz0xyJKMkMw

Thanks to the great, and tireless work of so many freedom fighters, famous and obscure alike, legions of enlightened people are starting to get real traction now in exposing the heart and soul of Islam - FASCISM.

NYS license for SOHO Properties #109906423 is registered under 3 identities:

his brother, Sammy M ElGamal as assoc. broker

himself, Sharif M. El Gamal (note surname spelling) as Corporate Broker

(in NYS, info here incorporated July 8, 2009 as, SOHO PROPERTIES GENERAL PARTNER, LLC "FOREIGN LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY" and and here, in 2003 as SOHO PROPERTIES INC. as a DOMESTIC BUSINESS CORPORATION

along with
Alexandra T. Gierak as salesperson

I've got an offer you can't refuse!

With the Muslim Mafia all things are possible.

Whatever happened to the news about Con Edison owning the other half of the property and the potential effect that could have on the project? It came out in the news for a day or so, then poof! - I never heard another word about it.

Does anyone know how this relates to the whole issue?

I went by there last Friday evening, and yes, it is a mosque now being used for prayer. The men entered by the central front door, and the women used the front door off to the left. Lots of people were in attendance. Mainly young men and women from what I could see - late teens to 30-ish. Happy and bubbling. I felt so angry. This is not the proper use of Ground Zero.

" THERE ARE IN FACT A LOT OF EL FAYED AND EL GAMALS WHO RECEIVE A LOT OF MONEY FROM EITHER SAUDIS OR ANY MUSLIM SOURCES SUCH AS LIBYA,IRAN,UAE,BRUNEI. THEIR MAJOR MISSION IS NOT ONLY TO START BUSINESS IN NON-MUSLIM COUNTRIES,BUT ALSO TO PROMOTE ISLAM IN MANY COUNTLESS WAYS ".

YESSS INDEED.

India's media baron an extremely suave toxic leftist N. Ram ( an alleged brahmin hindu) editor of newspaper Hindu & Frontline magazine is one such fugitive from Justice. A beneficiary of Brunei's Sultan's largesse. He is closely related to DMK chief minister of Tamil Nadu by way of marriage of some offspring. N Ram played a very vital role in arrest & incarceration of Pontiff of Kaanchi Mutt. And subsequent mudslinging & maligning of Kaanchi Aacharya. Nobody bothered.

But an Indian Minister of State announced a whopping bounty for (sic)"anyone bringing the head of the Danish cartoonist / Editor" and cheered by dhimmified Indians. There is virtually no law or Justice in India.

India's film industry & cricket are inextricably linked with jihadists. Bollywood's well known hindu actress & her mother were aboard a cruise ship of Sultan of Brunei to "service him". India's allegedly vibrant economy is centred on Indian films & cricket ALONE. Sans them it would hurtle into total irretrievable chaos much worse than Greece.

Religion does not really impact corrupt Indians. For the right inducement most Indians be they of any religion , caste , gender , rich , poor would stoop to any level. Most Indians are totally bereft of feelings like love , respect , compassion , pity , fear , empathy. But can breathtakingly FEIGN all of it and much more.

Recall Mitrokhin archives had a telling line " The entire country was for sale ".

" Based on Singapore and Hong Kong sources N Ram
has a major financial stake in the issue.

About a year ago, rumors were rife that N. Ram of The
Hindu had secured Rs 125 crore from parties close to
the Sultan of Brunei to gain control of The Hindu by
buying out parties opposed to him and also tide over
the more than 30 crore loss because of Jayalalithaa (another politician of ADMK)
withholding all advertisements in the paper.

Apparently the parties who gave him the money -- it
was not a gift -- are now putting the squeeze on him
to return the money. This accounts for his showing as
much interest in the Kanchi Mutt affair as any of the
parties".

" The Hindu is a completely marxist/communist mouthpiece.
Look at the editorial board, they have articles from the Guardian, George Monbiot, Chompsky etc. These people are as far to the left as you can possibly be.
Anyone who disputes this has no common sense.
The newspaper constantly and relentlessly villifies the middle class, and the rich. Constantly points out how the poor are being exploited by all. No one who makes a decent living through education and hardwork is spared. All are held personally responsible for the plight of the poor".

Information posted above was around 2000- 2004.

Now they wield much more powerful clout in India. Information disseminating sector including most media , telecom , TV etc etc controlled by them. No wonder so much of anti American and anti Jews spite gets engendered & whipped up among Indians.

"A long-time associate of his says el-Gamal isn't quite who he seems to be. The associate asked Fox 5 to protect his identity because he fears retribution."

"I don't think he has a lot of money," Brandman said. "I'm sure he didn't buy it with his own money."

"......He bought the old Burlington Coat Factory building at 45 Park Place, two blocks from the World Trade Center site, for $4.8 million in cash in 2009."

Now someone tell me where did he got this money from. Some sleeper cell doctors medical practice in Texas? Or the government of Libiya? If its all clean, why can't they just come out with where they got the money.

Hi.
I want to read more.
.............
Sunshine Coast real estate

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