Pakistan -- what do you call an ally that tries to kill you?

In "With Friends Like Islamabad, Who Needs Enemies? WikiLeaks documents reinforce U.S.' Pakistan problem," in Forbes (via IlanBerman.com), August 4, Ilan Berman summarizes much of the duplicity and support for jihad that we have been pointing out here about Pakistan for years.

What do you call an ally that tries to kill you? That's the question most Americans are asking in the wake of last month's dissemination by Internet clearinghouse WikiLeaks of some 92,000 classified U.S. military documents relating to the war in Afghanistan. The files provide a sobering portrait of the true state of play on the War on Terror's first front. Far and away the most damaging disclosures, however, are those relating to the pernicious role being played by Pakistan, long regarded as a critical American ally in South Asia, in supporting and sustaining the anti-Western insurgency there.

"The documents clearly show that the Pakistani intelligence agency is the most important accomplice the Taliban has outside of Afghanistan," Germany's influential Der Spiegel, one of the few news outlets with direct access to the WikiLeaks files, reports. "The war against the Afghan security forces, the Americans and their ISAF allies is still being conducted from Pakistan." Specifically, the news magazine reports that, "according to the war logs, the ISI envoys are present when insurgent commanders hold war councils--and even give specific orders to carry out murders."

Truth be told, this duplicitous role has been an open secret for some time. The Taliban, after all, is a product of Pakistan's feared Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), which fostered the puritanical Islamist movement in the early 1990s as a way of projecting power into neighboring Afghanistan. And once the Taliban succeeded in seizing power there in 1996, the ISI provided it with the financial and political backing to retain and strengthen its control. But all that was supposed to have ended after 9/11, when Islamabad grudgingly bought into the Bush administration's offensive against al Qaeda and the Taliban (albeit after some serious arm-twisting by then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage).

Yet the U.S.-Pakistani partnership has been troubled from the start. Anti-Americanism is rife in Pakistan; in the most recent Pew Global Attitudes survey of Pakistani public opinion, just 17% of respondents had a positive view of the U.S. And the country's conspiracy-prone population has tended to treat the U.S.-led Coalition, rather than its own internal Islamist plague, as the source of all its ills.

The Bush administration glossed over this unsettling state of affairs. Islamabad, under the leadership of Pervez Musharraf (and subsequently Asif Ali Zardari), was touted as a major ally in the War on Terror and a key player in securing post-Taliban Afghanistan, despite irrefutable proof that Pakistan was effectively playing both sides of the political fence.

Under Obama, the situation has gotten even more muddled. Early on in its tenure, the new White House outlined a comprehensive new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, colloquially known as "AfPak," that explicitly linked stability in Afghanistan with the pace of reform across the border in Pakistan. But this clarity of vision turned out to be short-lived. By last fall, the White House had stepped back from any sort of explicit linkage between Afghanistan's unrest and Pakistani influence, instead focusing simply on the need "to disrupt, dismantle and defeat al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and to prevent its capacity to threaten America and our allies in the future."

All of which begs the question: Why does Washington continue to treat Islamabad with kid gloves?

Why indeed. For the answers, read it all.

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"Pakistan -- what do you call an ally that tries to kill you?"
We call it enemy. Enough with the niceties. We don't lose our souls when we treat our enemies as enemies.
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"All of which begs the question: Why does Washington continue to treat Islamabad with kid gloves?"

Why?

Because until now the entire American effort has been one of avoiding studying Islam, and finding out why the winning of hearts and minds of Muslims is not possible, given the irreducible mental substrate of Islam, and the belief that Infidels are the permanent enemy, no matter what seeming good they may do. For that good is always and everywhere interpreted as merely promoting Infidel interests, is more fodder for conspiracy theories. This is something the Americans do not wish to recognize. Because if they did recognize it, several things would be obvious.

And the first of those things is that the entire American strategy, if you can call it that, of invading Iraq and Afghanistan and to remain there, for years and years, in order to "reconstruct" (really, construct for the first time) the countries, and to prevent the various sects and tribes and ethnic groups from behaving as, in the absence of a despot's iron grip, they naturally would behave, that is with the aggression and violence which societies suffused with Islam normally demonstrate, unless that aggression and violence can be directed against Infidels, either outside, or inside, the country. If Pakistan did not have India to make war on -- the raison d'etre of the Pakistani military -- what would happen to Pakistan? If and when the Americans leave Iraq, what do you think will happen when the Sunni Arabs continue to refuse to acquiesce in their loss of power, and the Shi'a Arabs continue to refuse to give up any of the political power, and control over the nation's wealth that flows from it, that the American invasion made possible? And what will Afghanistan look like when the Americans leave, as they ought to have done eight years ago, once whatever disruption of Al Qaeda could reasonably be accomplished was accomplished, and the Taliban, too, put on the run?

Which Muslim country in the world is the one where Islam is now most jeopardized? It is Iran, for the experience of the Islamic Republic of Iran has given Iranians, higher on the civilisational scale than Arabs (who are so wedded to, entangled with, Islam that they cannot possibly escape its toils), are seeing Islam, or the most advanced Iranians are, as a "gift of the Arabs" that they would wish to give back.

The entanglement with Pakistan, the inveiglement, by Pakistan, of successive American administrations, goes back fifty years, to the time of the Dulles brothers, and CENTO, and the complacent belief that Islam "is a bulwark against Communism." That it may have been, but not because of any deep hatred of totalitarianism. Rather, it was hatred of anything that was not Islam. The snookering of the Americans continued, it continued through this general and that general, including Zia ul-Haq, he whom anglophone Pakistanis like to think was the one who should be blamed for "bringing extremist Islam" into the picture -- this is for them a comforting view, their own conspiracy theory, for they cannot allow themselves, being Muslims, to realize that Islam was there all along, and it did not require Zia ul-Haq to emerge, as Pakistan managed to establish itself, and with Arab money, and other kinds of encouragement, for Muslims in Pakistan to believe that yes, Islam was on the march, Islam's moment to return to the past (mythical, or at least greatly exaggerated) splendors of more than a millennium ago, could be made to come again. The Pressler Amendment was an attempt by those in the Senate who had followed the Pakistani meretriciousness and the Executive Branch's continued inability to see Pakistan for what it was, and what it is, and what it will, as long as Islam remains strong and no Pakistani Ataurk appears (those who put their faith in Musharraf, or perhaps now in Kayani, are badly misinformed), to try to stop the nonsense. It was largely ignored. And, on the American dime, and with nuclear secrets stolen by the metallurgist A. Q. Khan, the Pakistanis built their "Islamic bomb" and even had know-how from the experience to offer North Korea, Iran, and Libya.

Pakistan was the country that gave rise to, nurtured as its tool in controlling Afghanistan for Islam (so as to make sure the Indians never re-established any influence), the Taliban, and when the Taliban (the "students") were done with their madrasa brainwashing in Pakistan, they were sent off to Afghanistan -- calling to mind Germany sending Lenin in that sealed railroad-carriage to the Finland Station, so that he might, upon arrival work to disrupt the Russian war effort)

How can a Muslim country, one where Christians are terrorized and sometimes tortured and murdered, with impunity, a country where even Ahmadi Muslims are declared to be Infidels and are thus subject to having their mosques attacked, a place where the Hindu population has steadily declined, and Hindus live in fear, a place where Bishop John Joseph, at the end of his mental tether because of the cruel treatment of Christians by the Muslims of Pakistan and the total indifference of the Muslim government, shot himself in protest, how can such a place ever have figured as part of an American strategy to contain Islam?

Well, the point is: that strategy to "contain Islam" never existed, and still does not exist. Instead, we seem intent on giving aid, and more aid, and still more aid, and trianing, and weapons, and more weapons, to Muslim states in the hope that this weaponry will be used against the "violent extremists" without any understanding that Muslims who today are "moderate" -- for reasons that include calculations of self-interest, not least making sure that the flow of Western aid continues -- may tomorrow be most "immoderate" and non-Muslims have no good way to figure out who, when, and why.

So the tragicomedy of terrors and errors is apparently going to continue for a while longer, and we will have to endure the spectacle of people who locked themselves into suppooring the Iraq venture continuing to do so, and perhaps extending that support to Afghanistan, when some of these people are the ones who should be most desirous of weakening the Camp of Islam, but their own amour=propre, their inability to admit how wrong they have been (shall we give the roll-call of "conservative" columnnists and well-televised "terrorism experts" here, or should we spare them?), prevents them from seeing that the ventures in Iraq, to bring "freedom to ordinary moms and dads," was foredoomed, futile, foolish, a squandering of resources, and so to, mutatis mutandis, is the venture in Afghanistan.

We are at war with Islam. (Not by choice, since by default Islam is at war with any country not ruled by Sharia.) Islam lives in many countries and India was partitioned to create a Muslim country (The land of the pure - Pakistan). No Muslim country (or individual) will knowingly assist a kuffar country.

They can pretend to, since "War is deceit", but it is nothing but pretense.

"Pakistan -- what do you call an ally that tries to kill you?"

Hmmm . . . Gosh . . . that's a tough one. Let me see . . . .

For "$200 Alex" I say, "Taqiyya," but if we go for a "Daily Double," I say "Kitman."

Truth be told, this duplicitous role has been an open secret for some time.
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Indeed. Was any regular reader here at JW surprised by anything revealed by Wikileaks? I certainly wasn't.

From Hugh:

And what will Afghanistan look like when the Americans leave, as they ought to have done eight years ago, once whatever disruption of Al Qaeda could reasonably be accomplished was accomplished, and the Taliban, too, put on the run?
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The current issue of Time Magazine, with its large portrait of an otherwise beautiful Afghan girl who has had her nose and ears brutally hacked off by the Taliban and her own husband, give a very good sense of what Afghanistan will look like, when the occasionally modifying brake of our presence there ends.

In fact, she wouldn't even be around to grace the cover of Time in her current sad, mutilated state if an American convoy hadn't found her and given her quick medical attention. After the butchery, the pious Muslims who savaged her had simply left her out in the mountains to die.

What is wrong with the US war effort in Afghanistan? The short answer is: everything. Including the double-dealing "ally" Pakistan. But the wrongest wrong is our own "intelligence". The Criminal Imbecile Agency who relentlessly worked hand-in-glove with Pakistan's infamous ISI teaching every Muslim walk-in how to make bombs out of household materials, how to make roadside bombs, bicycle bombs, car bombs, malleable plastic explosive bombs of every shape, creating bin Laden, al-Qaida and Taliban, turning the Pakistan-Afghanistan region into the biggest base of the Global Jihad in the world, supplying enormous quantities of advanced US weaponry and over $40 billion of our tax dollars to this Jihad Central, aiding jihad against the Russians and the Serbs, and sabotaging every effort of Jihn O'Neal and his fellow FBI to prevent the 9/11 attacks. On the later, read the full account, in excruciating detail, in the book "The Looming Towers" by Lawrence Wright.
Trying to defeat ANY insurgency without intelligence is like driving a car with the lights off, and wearing a blindfold, in the middle of the night, at 100 MPH on a bad Afghan dirtroad winding around sheer cliffs, over an abyss, with predictable results which we are witnessing in Afghanistan. But our "intelligence" is far worse than nothing. It has consistently played right into the hands of the enemy. The only thing the CIA can do to the jihadis is helping them by giving weapons to them.
Steven Emerson and his awesome Investigative Project folks have been doing great intelligence job, on their own, all private citizens, without spending 1 red cent of taxpayer dollars. Frustrated FBI agents have been sending them info on jihad plots inside the US, because their own US gov.'t won't act on that info. Now, imagine Steven and those folks being in charge of the Homeland Security Department, having the power of the US government and all that enormous funding at their disposal. Imagine what they would have done. But Steven Emerson is not in power. Nor are the great heroes Rudy Giuliani and Paul Sperry. Only the wrong people are in power. And instead of putting the Criminal Imbecile Agency on a treason trial with gallows, they keep richly rewarding it, immediatelly boosting its funding from the atrocious $30 billion a year to $40 billion right after the 9/11 attacks! But they did not stop there, and just continued throwing treasure at our "intellinence" even as the country went broke. Now, it so totally out of control, that no one, not even the CIA itself, can even keep track of their own funding, enormously bloated personnel, and functions. It was "the right hand does not know what the left one's doing" before, but now, it is total chaos, confusion and disorganization:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2012392005_topsecret19.html

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Enraged,
The CIA like any other government agency is a tool of that government. It won't do anything that has not been approved by the government. It is not and that’s an important distinction, it is not an independent or rogue agency. All it's funding comes from the government.

If the head or the administration decides that the Porkies are our friends and we must do everything possible to assist them in our goals then the CIA will carry this out. Now if this stupid and wrong policy, the CIA is in no position to go against the administration. They will carry out these stupid and wrong policies. They can only provide intelligence, and if the government's policy uses this intelligence for the wrong policies I would blame the administration, not the CIA. Same with the KGB and other services they all carry out the government's policies. Whether right or wrong.

The CIA is full of bright and educated people. I know because a close friend of mine tried to get into this agency but couldn't pass the very competitive tests. They do their best to provide the right intelligence based on the resources we are allowed to be given. Sometimes this info is correct something this is biased or simply wrong.
So, please don't blame the CIA, blame the various administrations for the wrong policies.

Look at the current imbeciles in power. They have stated that "thou shalt not blame Islam for terror". I am sure that the CIA has tons of evidence to prove otherwise, yet they are compelled to follow through Osama’s policies. They have to comply if they want to keep their government jobs.

Good article and analysis. Factions in Pakistan are milking us for cash and intelligence AND supporting the Taliban, screwing us royally in the "bargain."

"All of which begs the question: Why does Washington continue to treat Islamabad with kid gloves?"

Bcoz IslamaBADz got the "Islamic bomb"?

And it came to pass that God, being displeased with the people of Pakistan for their barbarity and ungodliness, caused a great flood which swept away their houses, livestock and siblings. Their cries for help went unheeded by the peoples of the world who had experienced the wrath of the followers of Mohammad and turned away from their affliction seeing that it was right and just that they should be punished by the Almighty who knows and sees all things.

Liberal Leftist = Radical Muslim

More proofs that the leftist liberal media, in particular from Germany, are colluding with the radical islamists. A worldwide conspiracy against our conservative judeo-christian culture is at work in destroying our families and nations.

Iran's role in Afghanistan:

http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2F0%2C1518%2C708698%2C00.html

Secret enemy pakistan:

http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2F0%2C1518%2C708311-5%2C00.html

Anti-American leftist liberals at work! Liberal Leftist media New York Times reporter David Rohde shows his support for islamic taliban terrorists:

http://video.whyy.org/video/1533949222/

what do you call an ally that tries to kill you?

easy-- an Allygator

An appeaser is one who feeds an allygator, hoping it will eat him last. (apologies to Sir Winston Churchill ...)

A muslim is a brother to all other muslims only !-There is no Golden Rule in islam- a lesson the Christians in Pakistan can testify too
sadly Wikipedia thinks there is a golden rule in islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule

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