On June 6, Pamela Geller and I organized a protest against the Islamic supremacist mega-mosque at Ground Zero that was attended by 8,000 to 10,000 people to stop the 911 mega mosque. And now we're inviting you to join us again on September 11 at 3PM, at the corner of Park Place and West Broadway in lower Manhattan.
A giant mosque looking down at the cemetery of Ground Zero from the location of a building that was partially destroyed in the 9/11 Islamic jihad attack on America is wrong. It is indecent. The Burlington Coat Factory building is Ground Zero.
We chose September 11 because reports have indicated that the Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and Daisy Khan said that they would break ground on the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks: September 11, 2011.
We will honor the victims and all Americans, and fill Ground Zero with patriots on September 11.
We are beginning with a brief memorial service honoring the victims, and are not beginning our rally until the morning memorial services for the victims are concluded.
Speakers will include 9/11 family members, former U.S. Ambassador to the UN John Bolton; Dutch freedom fighter Geert Wilders (LIVE!); journalist Andrew Breitbart (either live or via video stream); NY Senate candidate Gary Bernsten; war hero and NC Congressional candidate Ilario Pantano; radio host Steve Malzberg; actress and activist Susan Olsen (Cindy Brady on TV's Brady Bunch); NY Congressional candidate and 9/11 first responder Michael Grimm; Coptic Christian activist Joseph Nassralla; a spokesman for the ACLJ, and others.
Steve Dansby, singer of Rita Jones' song "Salt In the Wound," will be performing that iconic tune live.
Hosting the rally are Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer of FDI/SIOA.
For transport, rides and caravan information, go here.
I'd be there if I could, but I can't make it. So, here, again, is my contribution to the cause.
How to stay strong, tough, ready 'round the clock:
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2010/06/read-hereabout-boeing-guards-who-somehow-let-twelve-or-was-it-fourteen-handguns-be-stolen-from-a-storage-locker-at-the-he.html#tp
Indian filmmaker Vijay Kumar suspected to be a jihadist released on bail in US
An Indian documentary filmmaker arrested for carrying brass knuckles and suspicious Islamic jihadi literature in a Houston airport last week has been released on a $5,000 bond and ordered not to move out of Houston till Friday when his case comes up for hearing.
Vijay Kumar, 40, was arrested at the George Bush Intercontinental Airport Friday after he was spotted 'acting suspicious' when screeners thought they saw a possible handgun in a scan of his baggage.
A resident of Malad in northwestern Mumbai, Kumar was released on bail Tuesday night after he spent five days at the Harris County Jail. Kumar has to be present when his case comes up for hearing Friday.
State District Judge David Mendoza Monday lowered Kumar's bail from $50,000 to $5,000 after he told authorities that he was in Houston to lecture a Hindu organisation about Islamic fundamentalism and the books packed in his checked luggage were educational tools, the Houston Chronicle reported.
The Chronicle cited attorneys for Vijay Kumar as saying he has surrendered his passport while he mulls the deal. He does not want a criminal record to interfere next time he visits the US, his attorney Grant Scheiner said.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20100825/890/twl-indian-filmmaker-released-on-bail-in.html
Has there been any updates on the date September 11th, 2011? At first, people were saying that the mosque will open on that date, but I don't see them demolishing the Burlington Coat Factory building, building the mosque, and having everything ready to go in a year. Rauf and his wife, both liars, have stated that there is no way it will be ready by September 11th, 2011, and I think this may be the one thing they are being truthful about.
Perhaps the landmarks commission hearings and the public protests have slowed down their efforts?
Two people assaulted in France for eating during Ramadan.
http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=25211
A man who was lunching on the terrace of a restaurant in central Lyon was assaulted for not respecting Ramadan
He breakfasted on the terrace of a restaurant in central Lyon, the weekend of Aug. 15, when three youths pounced on him because he does not respect the fasting month of Ramadan. The father of Senegalese origin, living Venissieux, was struck in the head with a glass bottle, then hit with a chair.
Transported to the hospital with a fractured skull at the back, the victim has been trépanée. The attack was filmed by a CCTV camera, but the bad images do not identify the attackers. The Lyon prosecutor’s office opened a preliminary investigation. According to our information, the manager of Kebab, fearing reprisals, would testify under X.
Three days later, a young Jewish woman who wore a complaint after being assaulted in a large area of Toulouse. . The victim claimed to have been taken to task by two teenagers who accused him of buying food during fasting.
The young woman would then argued that she was Jewish, which would only intensify the anger of his attackers, who, after having called a “dirty Jew”, allegedly hit on the head, by the heavy fall.
A vigil attended the scene without intervening. When questioned by investigators about the reasons for its passivity, the man explained that he respected Ramadan and so was anxious to leave in order to eat, from the sunset.
I'm going and I'm really excited because I was just planning to go by myself but now my friend who doesn't like to get involved is going with me, along with my daughter, and we're waiting to hear if her boyfriend will go too because he believes "that religious freedom should be open to everyone in America". Yeah, everyone except religious folks who practice human sacrifice, the burnt offerings of dead children to Baal and Muslims who as a part of their religious observances believe that everyone must be Muslim, or else!
Big Apple, here I come!!
And bloggers, before we get to that date, please don't forget to commemorate the sixth anniversary of the Islamic child rape, torture and massacre atrocity at Beslan, at the start of September: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/beslan-child-rape-torture-enforced.html
The MSM would dearly like everyone to forget it
I strongly support your efforts, but cannot be there due to distance.
I THINK YOU SHOULD MAKE THIS A NATIONWIDE PROTEST DAY, IN THE VICINITY OF ALL MOSQUES IN THE U.S.!!
I have previously posted some points about Islam (a few days ago) that I think you should make available to all, and should distribute to all websites, churches, synagogues, student groups, political parties, etc. that are sympathetic to your point of view. They can print them out and post them throughout the world.
Sept. 11 can become a WORLDWIDE "EXPOSE ISLAM" DAY!
The reason that Bloomberg can get away with his assertion that opposing the mosque amounts to intolerance is that NOBODY HAS FORCED HIM TO CONFRONT IN PUBLIC EXACTLY WHAT ISLAM TEACHES, AND THE HISTORY OF ITS PROPHET.
Until that is done, the media and the politicians will continue to paint you as bigots.
As I've often said; we don't need to just remember Beslan, we need to commit mind, body, and soul to making sure it doesn't happen again. Anywhere.
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2009/09/the-perfect-day.html#tp
and...
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2010/08/why-bad-guys-do-so-well-in-gunfights-httpwwwpoliceonecomofficer-shootingsarticles2056185-why-do-bad-guys-seem-to-do-s.html#tp
Important information about Rauf:
Imam Faisal 'Abd Al-Rauf's book What's Right with Islam: A New Vision for Muslims and the West was published in Indonesian in 2007 with a different title: Seruan Azan Dari Puing WTC: Dakwah Islam di Jantung Amerika Pasca 9/11.
TRANSLATION:("The Call of Azan from the Rubble of the World Trade Center: Islamic Da'wa in the Heart of America Post-9/11").
The azan is the muezzin's call to prayer. It consists of a number of sentences repeated several times: "Allahu Akbar," the Shahada (la ilaha illa Allah wa-Muhammad rasoul Allah – "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger") and the phrase "Gather for prayer." It is noteworthy that, in the period of Muslim conquests in the first centuries of Islam, this call was made from newly conquered sites.
Source: MEMRI, August 23, 2010
I copied the above from here:
http://www.thememriblog.org/blog_personal/en/29598.htm
and added a couple of minor changes for clarity.
The Infidel Task Force will be coming down from CT to join the protest. Hope to see many of you there.
I will be there!
I'm impressed, Hesperado--and stunned. You have just exposed the implication of Imam Rauf's book in its original title. I'm reminded of "Mein Kampf" and its adulterated translation into English by Joe Goebbels & Company.
The Nazi propaganda apparatus, that is.
Good work...
bless the brave american soldiers. Whose the fascist through their words we can tell
While in Iraq, Eastridge (brave american soldier) had exhibited signs of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), was taking anti-depressants and sleeping pills, but was also taking valium, smoking pot and drinking whisky.
He had a history of aggression, and been charged with assault before he went on his second tour, but he was still deployed.
He said Iraqi civilian deaths did not bother him at all: "You disassociate. To you they're not even people, you know. Like, they're not humans."
Read this from the Mosque supporters (on the left); if this doesn't make your blood boil...
http://www.alternet.org/rights/147920/fallout_of_hate_is_spreading_across_america_from_9_11_site
Among the claims: "Islamaophobia is the new anti-semitism..."
Truly grotesque.
Among the claims: "Islamaophobia is the new anti-semitism..."
The Left and Islamists have one key thing in common in their warped belief systems: the West is rotten to the core and must be destroyed by any means. A key aspect is to discredit and shame the Judeo-Christian heritage at every turn.
So, I would say that Islamophilia is the new anti-Semitism.
I think it is very insensitive of you to hold this rally on September 11th and desecrate one of Islam's most joyous celebrations.
Lawrence Auster continues with his attack on Pamela today at VFR, with the usual universal seal of approval from his hand-picked published comments. (It's uncanny how so few people ever disagree with Larry on his site, isn't it?).
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017144.html#aug25
Anyway, and I am sure this is completely coincidental, but the article featured just below about some plane named after him, he found the perfect opportunity to mention you as well, and in a seemingly unrelated thread, with no mention of Islam at all.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017149.html
How about that?
Auster really is an attention whore, isn't he? With barely a mention of SIOA at his site previously, (he did mention the group once or twice before this), and knowing how Robert and Pamela have been the leading edge which brought this mosque issue, and by extension, Islam, to the forefront of national debate, is now focusing on Pamela distancing herself from the recent rally, trying to discredit SIOA, or anyone who does not pay direct homage to Auster's own inertness on the "ISlam problem" as he would frame it.
Auster has not to date, if I recall correctly, provided the substantive reason for Pamela's initial response, which anyone with intellectual integrity knows, was a response to an unfair attack on her as responsible for some bad behavior at a rally she had no part in coordinating.
Auster, who very well knows how the liberally-suffused media attacks all dissenting opinions by any means fair or unfair, found no reason to mention or comment on the Blumenthal piece, essentially giving liberalism a pass, while instead focusing on the choice of words Pamela used in defense of the false accusation of guilt-by-association, put forth by Blumenthal.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017144.html
Do you see Blumental's name mentioned in all that blather of Geller criticism, in a snarky titled post named "I Geller"? Neither do I.
Previously, when Auster posted that Pamela was under attack from the left, which she recalled in a piece at BigJournalism, Auster cut and pasted the entire post. In this case however, Auster offered not a peep of support for her plight against the unfair smears of the left. In fact, there are no comments at all in that thread.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017136.html
So let me see if I understand Auster. He routinely criticizes Robert and Pamela for not being explicit enough in your collective condemnation of Islam. But, when the moment of truth comes, when any support against the lying, liberal media smear machine would aid the effort to educate people about Islam, as is indicative of the prominence of this mosque issue, Larry Auster decides to let Pamela Geller hang, and esentially the whole movement as well, without a single syllable of support?
He really is something else in my estimation. I'd like to know how, in his unproductive existence, being safely ensconced in his enclave on the upper East or West side of Manhattan, he is even able to sustain his life-style in NYC. I know he used to write for some blogs awhile back and that he wrote some pamphlet about a "Path to National Suicide" back around 2003, but really, how does this guy make a living? Is he on some secret government dole, or something?
Banner idea:
Equal Privileges under a Sharia controlled America
Unions can kill members that quit or are expelled from the union
The ALCU can kill any supporter who subsequently withdraws their support
Capital Punishment for Apostasy,
it is OK if it applies equally for all organizations
www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0810/AntiMuslim_attacker_works_at_proPark51_group.html?showall
I guess ole' Hooper isn't getting around to things as fast as he used to, eh?
Haven't seen him lately...wonder if he is hiding, or just letting others front the phony "islamophobia" rhetoric.
Too bad you invited Breitbart. After the Dept. of Agriculture fiasco which he helped manufacture, he lacks all credibility.
I was originally opposed to this thing because I thought it was in bad taste until these thugs start whipping up the hatred. An innocent New York cab driver got stabbed last night because of these fear-mongers. 8000 to 10,000 or even 100,000 or 1 million bigots will not stop the constitution and will not stop freedom of religion in the United States. A majority of the nation opposed civil rights too. Today, there is an African-American president. The United States of America and its freedom is bigger and stronger than Fox News, Glenn Beck or Robert Spencer.
Ummm...Obviously you are reading all the wrong things...
If you read my input above, the idiot is a drunk that works for an organization that SUPPORTS THE JIHAD MOSQUE!!!
You are obviously on of the leftists that would support anything as long as America's enemies win the day.
Congrats, Joe!
Ummm...Obviously you are reading all the wrong things...
If you read my input above, the idiot is a drunk that works for an organization that SUPPORTS THE JIHAD MOSQUE!!!
You are obviously on of the leftists that would support anything as long as America's enemies win the day.
Congrats, Joe!
The logic of the Leftists (aka Globo-Socialists) does indeed hold up under the Constitution... so long as you accept the fiction that Islam is a religion per se.
*** 8:39 ***
Islam is a well constructed world-takeover belief system, much as Naziism and Communism were (or is, in the case of the latter). Islam comprises 3 things:
1. Religion
2. Government
3. Military
Islam is superior to the other two world-takeover belief systems because of component number 1.
Until the public discourse assents to this manifest reality, Islam is bound to win all arguments, both in and out of courts, both in and out of legislatures.
Thanks John and duh swami -- but it wasn't me who found that info about Rauf's book title, it was another commenter here on another thread named "katt":
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/moderate-muslim-spokesman-issues-veiled-threat-over-ground-zero-mega-mosque-opposition-and-islamopho.html#comment-701626
You're not too bright, are you?
Neither was your name-sake.
I missed that one, but I did read something like it...I read so much of this stuff that the who's who and when, sometimes escapes me...So thanks katt, and thank you anyway for bringing it up again...
awake,
The bulk of your first link, both quantity-wise and content-wise, is from a commenter on Auster's site, and his comment is simply constructive criticism based on his opinion -- and I tend to agree with him on his general points (I haven't seen that video re his specific criticisms):
First, let me say that I appreciate the part that Geller has played in getting the mosque issue on the map. I think she is a great personality and I appreciate her work.
But, obviously, her reaction to the August 22nd rally is disturbing. That rally was fantastic. The visuals of the firefighter motorcyclists was great. Nearly all the speakers focused on Sharia. And, all of the logistics were managed very well. It was not "off the cuff."
What more concerns me is Geller's saying on television how much she loves Muslims and doesn't have a problem with mosques being built ten blocks away by a different imam. It may be a short-term strategy against the mosque at Ground Zero. But, it is, in my opinion, a poor short-term strategy--it is clearly disingenuous and so weakens her ability to debate. I think consistently keeping, as this rally did, the focus on the persistent and pervasive dangers of Islam is a better short-term and long-term strategy.
Lastly, it is hard to believe that she has totally fallen for this supposed story about a minority person being hurt at the rally. She, as well as anyone, should now that this is the constant lie that the media spins. At best her not instinctively second-guessing the media reports of racism is a mental slip that speaks to the frailty of the mind. At worst, it shows complicity in the horrid game of denouncing folks with the race card.
We must speak the truth about the dangers of Islam as a whole. We must not be cowed by taunts of racism from the media. And we must hang together or we shall hang separately.
An innocent New York cab driver got stabbed last night because of these fear-mongers.
Were those murderous haters shouting 'Jesus saves' while stabbing the Mahoundian cab driver?
awake,
The bulk of your first link, both quantity-wise and content-wise, is from a commenter on Auster's site, and his comment is simply constructive criticism based on his opinion -- and I tend to agree with him on his general points (I haven't seen that video re his specific criticisms):
First, let me say that I appreciate the part that Geller has played in getting the mosque issue on the map. I think she is a great personality and I appreciate her work.
But, obviously, her reaction to the August 22nd rally is disturbing. That rally was fantastic. The visuals of the firefighter motorcyclists was great. Nearly all the speakers focused on Sharia. And, all of the logistics were managed very well. It was not "off the cuff."
What more concerns me is Geller's saying on television how much she loves Muslims and doesn't have a problem with mosques being built ten blocks away by a different imam. It may be a short-term strategy against the mosque at Ground Zero. But, it is, in my opinion, a poor short-term strategy--it is clearly disingenuous and so weakens her ability to debate. I think consistently keeping, as this rally did, the focus on the persistent and pervasive dangers of Islam is a better short-term and long-term strategy.
Lastly, it is hard to believe that she has totally fallen for this supposed story about a minority person being hurt at the rally. She, as well as anyone, should now that this is the constant lie that the media spins. At best her not instinctively second-guessing the media reports of racism is a mental slip that speaks to the frailty of the mind. At worst, it shows complicity in the horrid game of denouncing folks with the race card.
We must speak the truth about the dangers of Islam as a whole. We must not be cowed by taunts of racism from the media. And we must hang together or we shall hang separately.
What more concerns me is Geller's saying on television how much she loves Muslims and doesn't have a problem with mosques being built ten blocks away by a different imam.
Not just Pamela...Every talking head on tv, cable, government etc does the same thing...None of them will take Islam head on...Some get close, but they never cross the line...I just listened to Laura Ingrahm doing the same thing...
Niel Boortz is an exception...He does take Islam on head on...
You don't get enough credit for your efforts...You post for free what others charge for...You are superior in your security knowledge and applications...I hope a significant number of people are reading your site...
Hesperado,
You failed in your response to address the majority of the chronological critical argument that I presented against Auster in my initial comment.
If you are not going to read it or verify the substantiating sourced links of my argument, then please just say so next time, and avoid all that peripheral tedious cutting and pasting of Press' comment, which you tried to put forth as your counter-argument to my initial criticism of Auster explicitly, which you obviously, and most likely, willfully mistook as an argument against a particular Auster reader and commenter.
Since nearly my entire argument was aimed directly and explicitly at Auster, I find it odd that you would try to misrepresent it "in bulk" as an argument against one commenter, namely Mr. Press, but then again, nothing you do surprises me , or more accurately, nothing you say, since you really don't do anything, now do you?
Thanks in advance for your cooperation going forward.
To the people who are protesting the Cordoba House YOU SUCK. At this point you would think by now your sounding like a group of racists and bigots fixated with a paranoid "______ is coming to get us" insert: Communism, terrorism, Islam, a computer virus, whatever. Maybe it's time to suck it up and show everyone what a Democracy is.
To the people that are in support of this project YOU SUCK TOO. Why are some people still getting angry over a 100 million dollar, 18 story "it's not a Mosque, it's a Cultural Center" Planning to open on September 11. I don't know, you tell me. Maybe tone things down a little and use some of the money to help out fellow Muslim brothers and sisters with the floods in Pakastan or something and show everyone what the Religion of Peace really is.
And to America, don't spend too much time on Islam or us Canadians may rush your borders and institute our bilingual French/English language, the Metric System and screw with your spelling. We will make your women drink beer and take back what is rightfully ours, HOCKEY.
And to the Middle East, Sharia Law is almost impossible to practice in Canada due to it's cold weather system. Snow Burqas are very cumbersome and death by snowballing is very impracticable.
Oh Canada!
Get lost troll...Canada has no stake in this, so butt out...
God speed Robert and Pamela, thank you in the name of the many who have been murdered by the followers of mohamead. The souls of 3000 ordinary American citizens whom so horrendously where first terrorized and then killed by those carrying on the wishes of their master mohamed on 911 , those souls will be a little more relieved seeing some have awoken to the horror and terror ilsam portends anyplace and anytime it is allowed and not resisted.
God speed Robert and Pamela, thank you in the name of the many who have been murdered by the followers of mohamead. The souls of 3000 ordinary American citizens whom so horrendously where first terrorized and then killed by those carrying on the wishes of their master mohamed on 911 , those souls will be a little more relieved seeing some have awoken to the horror and terror ilsam portends anyplace and anytime it is allowed and not resisted.
As Canadians we'd like to butt out, We don't know how we got sucked in to Afghanistan in the first place. My guess is that these Arab Countries aren't so big on Westernization, maybe it's just Britney Spears, who knows. You could always just try paying for your gas like everybody else and leave Israel to themselves who look like their doing just fine with that giant wall to keep the original occupants out.
It's ok, Canada. America throws a fit over some minority group or another every 50 years or so. This one is right on schedule. It's also their distraction from 20% unemployment and the worst US president since Herbert Hoover.
In 30 years the USA will be irrelevant anyway, so let's just enjoy our Islamic / Liberal Hellholes and let the USA have their tantrum.
I'll continue to try and educate them as well as I can, but am not hopeful.
Did you see the poster yesterday who advocated killing 100 random Muslims for every one Westerner killed in an act of terrorism?
Posts like that guarantee that this site will remain fringe forever, so just enjoy the show. You can't change the mind of a person like that.
canadianvalues sez:
".... leave Israel to themselves who look like their doing just fine with that giant wall to keep the original occupants out."
A...they are not the original occupants...the Jews were the original occupants....the jews accommodated the Arab/Muslim immigrants who later voluntarily moved out when their Muslim brethern advised them to do so...they promised the destruction of all the Jews, then the Muslims failed in their mission and the people never returned.
B...since the walls construction Muslim suicide attacks have been greatly reduced giving proof positive that the walls intention of preventing "death by Muslim" is absolutely successful...
C...More Palestinians have died at the wall erected by Egypt designed to keep Palestinians out of Egypt...now why would a Muslim country like Egypt want to keep Muslims out of their country?.....Palestinians routinely riot and protest at the Egyptian wall....
Joseph,
You seem to be a well meaning guy, so I should tell you a bit of India's experience with Islam, in the hope that you might be able to understand what America is up against here.
You are assuming Islam is a religion like Christianity. It is not. You must understand that Islam is a political ideology. Every Muslim who believes needs to insist on certain laws. He needs to insist on certain amendments in the constitution of his country that will make it fall in line with his Shariah. If he does not, he is not a believing Muslim.
I am not telling you all the ways in which Islam is seeking to change America, as indeed it seeks to change all free societies. But be sure of one thing - Islam and Muslims are working to damage everything that America has been known for. Of course they will not say so explicitly. How can they, when they are a less than 3% minority. But every reading of their texts, their ideology, their history, and most importantly what they say to each other when they think that others are not listening, brings it out.
In India, where they are now 14%, they say so explicitly. They still remain protected since India punishes anyone in accord with law and they can always fudge and get away with many things. But there is now enormous evidence that they intend to take us back into medieval age to ensure their dominance.
If I try to tell you all the evidence, this reply will be still longer. To demonstrate how they fudge things, I will only tell you the title of the Arabic version of Rauf's book. It is: "A Call to Prayer from the World Trade Center Rubble: Islamic Dawa in the Heart of post 9/11 America". The English translation is called - "What’s Right with Islam is What’s Right with America". I am sure you can see the attempt at deception as also the odium in the arabic title of the book.
Believe me, if Islam became powerful in America, as it will be if this center is built, a lot more of American energy will go simply into "managing" Islam's demands on American society. Repeatedly there will be demands contrary to American constitution and law. And repeatedly Americans like you will need to fight to ensure that American constitution is upheld.
This is what happens in India now. We are spending a lot of energy in India because of these pressures. Some parts of India, because Muslim population is now more than 20%, are wastelands as far as modernity and human progress is concerned.
I request that you spend a little more effort in understanding what Islam stands for and what happens to societies with large Muslim populations before you take sides.
Sanjay
I'll continue to try and educate them as well as I can, but am not hopeful.
You can get lost also troll...Run away to Canada if they will have you...
"the worst US president since Herbert Hoover."
You got one thing right
As Canadians we'd like to butt out, We don't know how we got sucked in to Afghanistan in the first place.
Well, that's your problem isn't it? Maybe you should ask your leaders...
It's true our leaders do suck they seem to have been in bed with yours but they will be gone soon enough. By then you'll have moved on to the rising Buddhist population in Australia, I hear it's the fastest growing religion in Australia. The Buddhaization of Australia is beginning Hurry Spencer we need you to write a book on Buddhas weight issues and bad body Oder. India is 90% Hindu were still waiting for that book about how lame that Ganesh guy is. Christianity is the largest religion in the world maybe a book on how bad a carpenter Jesus really was would stop the spread of Christianity.
Is it just me or doesn't this kind of sound like some crazy conspiracy theory and you can figure out if it is or not buy asking yourself if you want this to be true or not. This theory has seemed to replace the New World Order microchips in your neck conspiracy.
I was right the first time...You are a troll...see ya...
I cannot attend. However, when I visit my son stationed at the Pentagon this fall, I WILL stop at the attack site to offer a prayer. I recently acquired the History channel eight CD story of 9/11. The first two CDs moved me to tears at points. I will be watching this on 9/11 as I do not subscribe to cable or Direct T.V. I will also be watching the Minneapolis papers to see what they are saying as this is the home of Keith Ellison
Thank you, swami.
I'm honored that Robert lets me link here.
"It is indecent."
The word I'm currently using on the rear window of my car is: "obscene".
@Canadian values:
All of your "Suck"ing sounds like you're stuck in the oral phase of your development. Maybe a psychotherapist could help you with that.
It is time to start a movement and how ironic it would be to "Burn a Koran Day" on September 11th of every year:
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/muslims-threaten-suicide-bombings-against-quran-burning-church-in-florida/
As the first commenter who was copied on Auster’s site I will respond to your gratuitous attack upon him. The point of the criticism leveled by myself and others of Mr. Spencer and Ms. Geller was a response to their not very well thought out attack on a demonstration that featured many prominent speakers who have appeared at previous anti jihadist and anti mosque events. I hardly think that Gaffney and Burlingame etc. are fringe characters. The fact that criticism of the rally has not been pursued at JW indicates that both Spencer and Geller recognize that they spoke a bit too hastily.
However, that does not keep you from using this as an opportunity to indulge in some kind of personal grudge against Mr. Auster. All I can say is that had the warnings given by Auster (and others) some twenty years ago been heeded we would not have the critical situation we now have with a massive Muslim influx resulting in 911 and now in the Mosque of Triumph. Similarly, think of how much better off the Brits would be had they heeded Enoch Powell’s warning some forty years ago. And while Lawrence Auster was warning us about our impending national suicide what exactly were you doing? Lying about on some beach getting a tan?
"A...they are not the original occupants...the Jews were the original occupants...."
Spot on, Pulsar182! ...good point! Yeah some people don't know their history very well, do they? ...lol :)
rbla wrote:
"The point of the criticism leveled by myself and others of Mr. Spencer and Ms. Geller was a response to their not very well thought out attack on a demonstration that featured many prominent speakers who have appeared at previous anti jihadist and anti mosque events."
My point of criticism of Auster is the degree of his exception to Geller's chosen words and the complete absence of the context as to why those words wer even uttered.
Nowhere in the now numerous threads at vfr, critical of Geller's words and exaggerated "denouncement" (as per Auster), of the rally, is Blumenthal's name mentioned or his dishonest tactics called out by Auster.
No. As I stated, the previous posting about Geller was a cut and paste by Geller, in her own defense, of the smear campaign against her, Robert and SIOA, by the left. In that thread, I noted that Auster had no comments posted, not even a single observation by himself.
Did Auster even provide a commentary on the first protest that SIOA did sponsor and coordinate?
Auster, on the otherhand, now will dedicate several posts all aimed at discrediting Geller as unfit for leadership in this movement, while never acknowledging the actual work that SIOA has put into this issue that helped drive it to the forefront of national debate. Work that Auster did not do. The gratitude for Geller's efforts expressed in that thread came from John Press, not Lawrence Auster.
In fact, what was Auster's mention about SIOA on his site?
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/014275.html
And finally, rbla, in speaking about doing as opposed to talking, what will you be doing on September 11th? Will you be "hanging together" with Spencer and Geller, and myself as I plan to be there, and as Press has prescribed, or merely reminiscing on Auster's wisdom from some 20 years ago, wisdom that seems to have netted little positive gain in this current struggle?
Maybe Auster can take a break from his pointed criticisms via the keyboard, hail a cab and actually make it downtown at 3pm, two weeks from this upcoming Saturday, so we can all "hang together".
Do you think that'll happen? Or is it more likely that we'll get a story from him on Tuesday or so, mocking this or that in the words of some of the featured speakers?
Robert, Hugh, Marisol and other JW folks:
Congrats to you all for making your cause front and center with the American people!
I still wish you invited Rudy Giuliani and Paul Sperry and got them together with Geert Wilders to launch a new Center Party modeled after Geert's glorious Freedom Party.
But in any case, congrats to you for achieving such a breakthrough in your campaign!
Ruslan Tokhchukov, Temporarily Not Enraged But Cheering.
First of all let me be clear, I admire the great work that Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller have done; both of them are very talented and courageous individuals. And yes I will be at their rally on 9/11 as I was at this recent rally and as I was at the large rally organized by Pamela and Robert a few months ago. However, when, in my opinion they make a major mistake like sniping at another demonstration simply because they did not organize it, then I will say so, not as a gratuitous attack but as constructive criticism. BTW I was first alerted to last Sunday’s demonstration by a member of ACT which I believe is associated with Brigitte Gabriel. Is she another flaky marginal character?
As for Ms. Geller being mistakenly criticized by some liberal weenie, is it news when dog bites man? Look what the media is trying to make of this latest, possibly contrived incident with the Muslim cabbie. Geller should have corrected his misperception and then told him where to go without “mocking” (to use your word) the organizers of the “rival” demonstration. I also don’t see that post by Mr. Auster as criticizing SIOA; he is simply promoting, perhaps a little too vehemently, his strategy for dealing with the Islamic menace. I also believe that we desperately need a time out on immigration followed by a policy that is of benefit to the nation given the present social and economic circumstances. We have the present administration of a Cultural Muslim as a direct result of our misguided policy regarding “borders, language and culture” for some forty years. And one of the most important principles of immigration reform should be no more Muslim immigration. That is a policy that both Mr. Spencer and Mr. Fitzgerald have endorsed on occasion.
Now I might ask you Mr. Awake, what is your strategy for dealing with advancing Islamization? At least Lawrence Auster has one; so I ask, respectfully, what is it that you believe?