Iran defiant -- and why not? "Iran TV airs 'confession' from woman facing stoning," from the BBC, August 12 (thanks to all who sent this in):
Iranian state TV has aired what it says is a confession by a woman under threat of being stoned to death for adultery.In the interview shown on Wednesday, Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani purportedly admits conspiring to murder her husband in 2005 and denounces her lawyer.
After an international outcry, Iranian officials temporarily halted her stoning sentence last month, but there are fears she will now be hanged.
The 43-year-old had said she was forced to confess to the charges of adultery.
In May 2006, a criminal court in East Azerbaijan province found Ms Ashtiani guilty of having had an "illicit relationship" with two men following the death of her husband. She was given 99 lashes.
But that September, during the trial of a man accused of murdering her husband, another court reopened an adultery case based on events that allegedly took place before her husband died.
Despite retracting a confession she said she had been forced to make under duress, Ms Ashtiani was convicted of "adultery while being married" and sentenced to death by stoning.
The mother-of-two's alleged confession to complicity in her husband's murder, which was made in Azeri and dubbed into Persian, was aired on one of the main state-run television channels.
There was no mention of the stoning sentence and the focus of the interview was moved away from the allegation of adultery.
The woman, whose face was pixelated, admitted her part in the 2005 killing, despite Ms Ashtiani having earlier told Western media that she had been acquitted of the charge.
She said her husband's cousin had told her he wanted to kill her husband, but that she had assumed this was a joke.
"Later I realised that he was a killer," the woman said.
One day the man came to her house "with all the required equipment," she added.
"He had brought electric devices, wire and gloves. He then killed my husband by electrocuting him. He asked me before to send my children to their grandmother's house."
The woman also criticised her lawyer, Mohammed Mostafaie, for interfering in the case.
"Why has he taken my case to the TV? Why has he disgraced me?"
Mr Mostafaie has fled Iran and is now seeking asylum in Norway.
Another of Ms Ashtiani's lawyers has said that she was tortured for two days in prison to force her to make her televised confession on Wednesday.
Human rights activists fear that she is now in danger of imminent execution....
LOL, this is Iran we are talking about, it might as well be the old Soviet Union, or North Korea. Does she want to see her close family members disappear, mysteriously? Of course, the Islamic state was right all along.
"..she was tortured for two days in prison to force her to make her televised confession on Wednesday."
It's allowed in Islam. (video)
Ayatollah Yazdi: On rape, sodomy, torture...
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/rape-and-torture-viol-et-torture.html
In the interview shown on Wednesday, Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani purportedly admits conspiring to murder her husband in 2005 and denounces her lawyer.
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"Denounces her lawyer". One of the most vicious aspects of Islam is that it forces its victims to turn on each other—at least Mohammed Mostafaie is safely out of the country, although his family is not.
Here's another of lawyer Mostafaie's clients, at danger of being killed by the state on false charges:
"Iran set to execute 18-year-old on false charge of sodomy"
The client of human rights lawyer Mohammad Mostafaei has been sentenced to death in spite of retracted testimony
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/08/iran-mohammad-mostafaei-rights-lawyer
He was just a 16-year-old kid when he was arrested and tortured into confessing. His accuser has said he was pressured by his family into filing the false charges. None of this has made any differnce.
they are such a doosh bags. they think the whole world are bunch of dumb fuck! this poor women was toutured if not raped to force her make a conffession.
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..."found Ms Ashtiani guilty of having had an "illicit relationship" with two men following the death of her husband."
Why weren't the two men found guilty as well? ...afterall it takes two to tango.
because this is religion dominated by narccists men who give a shit less about women. all the two men had to say that they were enticed by her. that is it. they are home free!! that is how f....up it is.
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We believe nothing coming out of Iran. The authorities are just setting the stage for Ashtiani's execution to come. Iranian justice, they assume, will be vindicated by this purported killer's confession.
In Iran it's a case of judgment first,facts second ... and the world knows it.
Total vindictiveness.
becuase this is such a male dominted and male nrcissit religion that all those two men had to say was that they were enticed. and they go free. it is that simple. a fucking tragedy.
Allah permits you to shut women in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing.
*** Tabari 4:113 ***
If the dude has just listened to Mohammed he'd still be alive today. Less the food and clothing, of course, but still breathing.
*** Ishaq 584 ***
But, then again, as that great Minnesotan Bob Dylan once said, everybody must get stoned.
These barbarians will remain barbarian so long as they follow Mo/allah's barbaric book!!
please refrain from using the 'f' word ...thanks.
sure. I will do my best
It's precisely this kind of mindset from Iran, the absurd presumption that staging such an obviously coerced public "confession" would in any way legitimize her execution in the eyes of the world,...this illuminates the horrific implications of such a regime possessing nuclear weapons. It isn't just the brutality, it's the naivety, the ignorance, the stupidity, the absence of any tangible understanding of how the real world works, the convoluted thinking that undoubtedly will - in coming circumstance - justify the unthinkable.
Israel better get busy!
http://newstime.co.nz/stoning-in-iran-children-beg-for-the-life-of-their-mother.html
Stoning in Iran (Muhammad’s order e. g. Bukhari 4.56.829) – Children beg for the life of their mother
I think that Iran is the most barbaric Islamic country in the world today. Even more than Pak, and Saudi Arabia.
"But, then again, as that great Minnesotan Bob Dylan once said, everybody must get stoned."
Yeah, but - Stoning people to death isn't what he was talking about.
Iran seems to be under an evil influence...I wonder if it has a name?
"Iran seems to be under an evil influence...I wonder if it has a name?"
Islam?
This is all extremely sick and shows the real nature of Iran and the Muslim religion when something as bad as this goes unchallenged by other Muslim countries or the Muslim population of the world. Where are all the so called "decent moderate" Muslims that our leaders keep telling us about? I will not hold my breath waiting to hear from them. If no one from this despicable religion has the gonads to stand up for this woman, then they should all be considered to be as guilty as the perpetrators of her systematic torture, forced confession, and forthcoming stoning. Heaven only knows what kind of torture and horror this woman has already seen at the hands of her Muslim prison guards. She is probably looking forward to some relief in her coming death.
...And we have people in our government that think A-jad is just a harmless little b-----d that we should bring into the fold to work for peace.
I think cases like this are classic witch hunts. Islam needs to make examples of these women to keep their female slaves in line. If they didn't publicly torcher a woman every now and then, other women may get all uppity.
Ninety nine lashes? I think I may even admit to a "crime" I didn't commit with a death penalty. Just kill me.
Stories like this are further proof we need to keep the Nation of Islam out of the west. Close the Mosques!
Not so much a tragedy as a scandal. Remember, this is exactly what the Muslim trolls and their Leftist allies want to see happening here in the West. This exposes Islam for what it is. Far worse and far more tyrannical than any other ideology that has existed over the last 55 centuries. To those who think Islam is tolerant and a religion of peace, I say get the hell out of the West. We don't want you spewing your claptrap here.
You have said it...
I am not sure what exactly you mean. sorry
OT but important. The serial killer who has been targeting black men in Michigan and Leesburg, Virginia sure has an interesting name.
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/suspected-serial-killer-paged-590315.html
Where's that man-of-peace, that bridge-building humanitarian, Imam Feisal Rauf, on this one? Shouldn't he be "explaining" this to us so we can "understand?" Or how about Daisy the con Khan? She likes to crow about women's rights in islam. Can't she speak-up for this wretched lady? These nice folks are in the hire of our Federal Government, hence under my employ. And as their employer I demand they get involved or tell us why they won't...
"She was given 99 lashes."
Why not 100 lashes? ...I guess they don't want to be perceived as cruel and evil barbarians.
I noticed that one, too, Isabella.
It got a mention in the latest news roundup on Australia's ABC news online.
*And* he was caught as he prepared to board a plane for...Israel.
Perhaps he had gotten tired of attacking abeed/ blackslaves, and instead was going to go a-stabbing Jooz.
And this is the regime our Dear Leader wants to negotiate with?
He's ex-mother-in-law says that he is an Arab Christian from Israel.
That's his ex mother-in-law.
Bush was right. Part of the axis of evil. Pure and simple.
Line up the mullahs instead, I'll be happy to cast the first stone.
Islam is evil. We must kill it before it kills us. No alternative.
"She was given 99 lashes."
....given freely and with love from the cult of Islam....
"...but there are fears she will now be hanged."
Islam is probably the only religion where you can become a dangling participant subject to the whims of "accusations"....
These mullahs are stone age barbarians. Games like name calling and ridiculing these morons only gets us so much satisfaction.
The true satisfaction will come when these idiots are deposed and humans start running the country again.
Any world leader that seriously listens to Ahmadinejad and his mob of misfits needs psychiatric help. More sense can be had from an asylum.
I am surprised the world is not lining up to declare war on this lot. If human rights means something to the civilized world, then why haven't they acted to rid humanity of this vermin....
The world has gone soft in the head to allow these mullahs and Ahmadinejad to rule with such nonsensical laws.
Here, from the final chapter of apostate-from-Islam Mark Gabriel's book, 'Islam and Terrorism', is his account of something that happened to him in South Africa, after he had fled from Egypt following his conversion to Christianity.
"One time I had travelled to Cape Town, South Africa, to speak for a missionary and his wife. The man had picked me up in his car, and we went to pick up his wife at a Muslim lady's house. When we arrived this man's wife told the Muslim lady that a professor from Al-Azhar was in the car. This Muslim lady became very excited and wanted us to come in and have a cup of tea, so we agreed.
"When we entered this house, I could see that she was poor, and there was almost nothing in the house.
"As we talked, this lady realized I was no longer Muslim, and she became very upset with me. 'How can you betray Islam?' she complained.
"I told her, "I am very tired now, but I will tell you two stories.' These are the stories I told her...
'One time a woman was brought to Muhammad who had committed adultery. They asked him, 'What shall we do with her?' Muhammad said, 'Go away. Bring her back after the baby is born.' So they brought her back after the baby was born, and Muhammad said, 'Let her go and nurse the child. Bring her back when the child is two years old. ' So they brought her back, and Muhammad said, 'Take the baby from her and kill her'. And that is what they did.
"Now let us compare Muhammad to Jesus. There was a time when people brought a woman to Jesus who had been caught in adultery {i.e. people brought to Jesus a woman who had been caught in adultery - dda}. 'Shall we stone her?' the people said. Jesus replied, 'Let him who is without sin cast the first stone'. Everybody went away. There was no-one left to stone her because they all knew they had sinned. Then Jesus said [to the woman], 'Neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more'.
"I ask you, whom do you want to follow - Muhammad or Jesus?"
'The woman burst out in tears and cried out, 'I am that woman'.
'She had been in an adulterous relationship and was now pregnant. When her Muslim family found out that she was pregnant, they tried to kill her. She ran away, and some of her friends {I assume, non-Muslims - dda} helped her to rent this little house.
'She accepted Jesus that day, and my friends took her to their house for three days to explain the Christian faith to her. They continued to disciple her after that, as well".
Islam and Terrorism, ch. 26, 'challenges for Muslim converts', pp. 203-204.
The other religion being atheism. Remember the gulag of the USSR.
This type of evil and a good many other evils will continue as long as the Koran is used to prescribe death and
terror for every human being who is not muslim. Justice
in obama's reign is seldom meted out to him co-religionists.
At least this islamic equivalent of Escoffier will not only see a lot of sausage he'll be playing the time honored game of hide the sausage with criminals who will have no use for his expertise in cuisine. Sometimes we do get a laugh.
the most significant phrase in that report may well be this one:
"The woman, whose face was pixelated"
Goodness knows who it was doing the "confessing". It may be a sign that they couldn't force Ashtiani to confess, or she has died while under interrogation.
Until her lawyer says that was her, I will not believe it.
Monty wrote:
The woman, whose face was pixelated"
Goodness knows who it was doing the "confessing". It may be a sign that they couldn't force Ashtiani to confess, or she has died while under interrogation.
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It may also be that some overzealous torturer roughed her up so badly that her face was covered with bruises and contusions—which might look bad, even in as barbaric a place as Iran.
I'm surprised no one has commented on the following:
The mother-of-two's alleged confession to complicity in her husband's murder, which was made in Azeri and dubbed into Persian...
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This woman is a member of the Azeri minority—who have been coming under increasing discrimination since the 1979 "Islamic revolution"—which may be why the Mullahs are so intent on killing her.
Every time I hear this, the story changes.
Something truly terrible has just occurred to me.
What if she wasn't complicit in any way in the murder?
What if, instead, the murderer/s (including her husband's cousin) carried out the murder with the intention of using the murder victim's wife as the scapegoat, right from the start?
Alternatively, she could have been told that if she didn't keep quiet about/ assist with the plans for the murder, she would be *charged with adultery*. Catch-22.
It's anybody's guess what really happened. But knowing the propensity of Muslim men to do evil and project the blame onto other people, I think my hypothesis is as plausible as any.
If a man is murdered, and his wife is framed for the crime (and executed), who gets the murdered man's money and property?