Shelter helps abused Muslim women in Kabul? No. In Riyadh? No. Where? In Tulsa.

Question for the Tulsa Muslim community: Why does such a relatively small population need a dedicated Muslim women's shelter for domestic abuse? Where are husbands getting the idea that good women are obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded, and from those from whom you fear disobedience -- oh, wait... "Tulsa shelter helps abused Muslim women," by Bill Sherman for Tulsa World, August 15 (thanks to Twostellas):

She was pencil-thin and so weak from mental and physical abuse, she needed help getting up stairs.
Her husband kept her under video surveillance 24 hours a day, a virtual prisoner in her own home, and once held a knife to her throat.
This Jordanian woman found refuge in the Surayya Anne Foundation home, Tulsa's only Muslim women's shelter. She is now separated from her husband, who remains in Tulsa, and is back with her family in Jordan.
Since it opened in May 2009, the modest, three-bedroom, two-bath apartment in south Tulsa has housed 15 women, most of them Muslims, and their 10 children, some for a few days, others for a few months. [...]
Mary Al-Khaldi is house mother for the women. She lives in a nearby apartment and is available day and night to assist them. She also enforces a curfew, granting exceptions for such things as outside work and Ramadan evening prayers.
"It's great to be able to assist these ladies," she said.
Al-Khaldi said she was raised in a Pentecostal home in Oklahoma and converted to Islam 25 years ago. Her older brother abused her mother and was killed by her younger brother.
She married an Iraqi she described as a radical Muslim. "It took me 10 years to figure that out," she said.
"When he struck me when I was with child, I left him, but I didn't leave Islam."
Board member Allison Moore said women in the shelter are required to work or go to school, unless they have just had a baby, and to set aside money in a savings account to help them get back on their feet when they leave the shelter.
She said the foundation is raising money to buy a four- to six-unit apartment complex that will enable it to expand its services to families in need, including husbands.
The current shelter operates on a $46,000 annual budget, most of it from the Tulsa Muslim community.

Call it the "4:34 Fund."

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"When he struck me when I was with child, I left him, but I didn't leave Islam."

Apparently she was asleep in class when they covered cause-and-effect in high school.

If you click on 4.34 you will get three quite watered-down versions of the Arabic original. I note that the interpolation of the word "lightly" after the verb "beat" (beat your wife, wives) is Yusuf Ali's invention, that the vague "scourge" of Marmaduke Pickthall remains unclear, and that only Shakir, with the word "beat" without that "lightly" begins to give the flavor, but hardly the full virulence, of the Arabic.

Wafa Sultan, a native speaker of Arabic, has repeatedly explained how m the non-Arabic translations of the Qur'an are all much milder. Scholars who have studied the French and English translations have made the same point, and have offered studies of individual passages to make that same point.

And where, synoptically, one used to find five translations, now there are only three, and I suspect they are the three mildest, that is the least accurate.

It is up to those with a native command of Arabic to properly inform us as to how much less virulent the Arabic version of the Qur'an is, as compared to various other languages in which it may now be read.

For example, when Ataturk ordered that a translation of the Qur'an into Turkish be made, and used (along with a tafsir, or commentary), it was undoubtedly to sever the connection with the more malign and virulent version in Arabic. Have Turkish secular scholars written about this? I assume they have.

What about those who, knowing the Qur'an in Arabic and in English, or in French -- aside from the scholars alluded to above -- who can set out synoptically the versions, showing just how much more "extreme" the Arabic version of the Qur'an is?

Someone or some group of scholars needs to make this, take this, as their object of study. '

There are already far too many ways available for Muslim apologists to mislead the Infidel as to the meaning and menace of Islam.

This Jordanian woman found refuge in the Surayya Anne Foundation home, Tulsa's only Muslim women's shelter. She is now separated from her husband, who remains in Tulsa, and is back with her family in Jordan.
...................

If this guy is still in Tulsa, I hope it's in the Tulsa *jail*. As for this woman, was returning to her family—*in Jordan*—really a bright idea? It's quite possibly her family will blame her for the "shame" of the failed marriage—despite her husband's terrible abuse of her—and decide the only thing that will wipe the slate clean is to "honor" kill her. We already know that "modern" Jordan has resisted stiffening laws against "honor" killings—and has done so on *religious* grounds.

More:

"It took me 10 years to figure that out," she said.
"When he struck me when I was with child, I left him, but I didn't leave Islam."
...................

Well, it sounds as though Mary Al-Khaldi is just half bright.

And this is happening in *Tulsa*, Oklahoma, for God's sake—a small city in the American heartland.

As of 2000, Tulsa had an estimated Muslim population of just 4226. I am not sure of today's figures—but now they need their own dedicated battered women's shelter—surely, right on the list following a mosque and a good Halal butcher.

http://mumford.albany.edu/census/BlackWhite/muslimsortlists/muslim-sort.htm

Here's an excellent article for the Tulsa Beacon, from just two weeks ago:

"America, like Europe, will be overrun by Muslim religion"

http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=4452

Author Randy Bright definitely knows what is going on.

Q: What do you ask a new convert to Islam?

A: Have you started beating your wife?

Acid Heads

The current shelter operates on a $46,000 annual budget, most of it from the Tulsa Muslim community.

Is this an indication that local Mahoundians recognize a flaw in their system of sharia and 4:34? Isn't that haram?

" If this guy is still in Tulsa, I hope its it the Tulsa *jail* ".

Come now, gravenimage. Don't you think that your being a little too hard on the poor husband ?

He may have just been having a little trouble paying the mortgage...

This may shed some light on why Oklahoma surprised us all by taking bold steps to outlaw sharia.

"The current shelter operates on a $46,000 annual budget, most of it from the Tulsa Muslim community.

Is this an indication that local Mahoundians recognize a flaw in their system of sharia and 4:34? Isn't that haram?"
-----------------------------------------

I doubt they've had any humanitarian revelations. They probably just donate to it so they know where the safe house is. That way they can lay in wait for another chance to impose some more sharia law on their women and children.

"She married an Iraqi she described as a radical Muslim. "It took me 10 years to figure that out," she said."

So the difference between a "radical" Muslim and a regular Muslim is so tissue thin that the Muslim's wife needed 10 years to figure it out?

What chance do we foolish kuffar have to discover the difference?

This is in Oklahoma? OKLAHOMA, really?

That is depressing. Gotta make some changes:


"OKLAHOMA!" (Revised)

They couldn't pick a better time as that in life.
It ain't too early, to meet their fate.
Startin' as a mullah with another wife.
Soon they'll all be livin' in a brand new state!

BRAND NEW STATE!

Called a CAL-I-PHAAAAAATE!

Gonna give you schwarma, tahini and tabouli
Pasture fer the camels,
fattoush from old Abdul-y!
Gallows on a prarie where the AK's Boom!
Plen'y of air and plen'y of tombs
Plen'y of room to swing a rope!
Plen'y of gays who will have no hope!

O-klahoma, where we might come sweepin' down in planes!
And our wavin' heat, will make you meat
When Al-lah comes right behind the blame!


(It could go on, but that's probably enough satire methinks. Besides, I really must go to the store now!)

"A woman may be likened to a sheep (even) a cow or a camel......for all are ridden."
Al-Qurtubi, Tafsir v.15, p.172
(video)
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/07/perfect-man.html

I doubt they've had any humanitarian revelations. They probably just donate to it so they know where the safe house is. That way they can lay in wait for another chance to impose some more sharia law on their women and children.

That would be my take on it also...In the US battered woman's safe houses are protected by secrecy, dogs, fences, and stealth help for the battered woman, and sometimes guns...The reason for this is because maniacal husbands and boy friends will show up and cause trouble...Sometimes the battered woman is stupid, or fearful enough to call the ex and tell him where she is...That's a no no, unless you are seeking trouble...The Mahoundians who might want to cause a problem in this case, know right where to go...

Michigan high-school football team practices in middle of the night to accommodate Ramadan...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/highschool/news/story?id=5467167

Welcome to Islamic America!

As a poster above notes, one piquant detail is contained in the following:

"Al-Khaldi said she was raised in a Pentecostal home in Oklahoma and converted to Islam 25 years ago. Her older brother abused her mother and was killed by her younger brother.

"She married an Iraqi she described as a radical Muslim. 'It took me 10 years to figure that out,' she said."

Now let's stop for a moment and look carefully at that passage. First, there is the horrific family background: "her older brother abused her mother and was killed by her younger brother." Mother, older brother, younger brother -- one abused, one killed for the abuse, one in prison for killing the one who abused their joint mother.

That is exactly the kind of background that makes one vulnerable to the siren song of Da'wa, which is promoted as offering some kind of instantaneous Community (Brotherhood and Sisterhood are apparently powerful), the Community of Believers. It offers no real community to those who are unwilling to sacrifice their own autonomy to the Good of The Cause, that is of Islam, and most converts, or reverts, are not even permitted to find out much about Islamic texts and tenets until, fatally, they have recited the Shahada, become Muslims, and it is, for many, too late. And when they find out more, if they find out more, too many are too far out, and in too deep, to swim back to the shores of Non-Islam.

Now if this lady, who was a Muslim for 25 years, and had married a Muslim, needed ten full years to figure out what he, and what Islam's views on women, are all about, then how much hope is there for the mass of Infidels, or those who resist all of the evidence, or who will not even examine the evidence, textual and historical, for what Islam inculcates, and how, over 1350 years, from Spain to the East Indies, Muslims have behaved not contrary to, but in full accord with, those teachings of Islam.

We are in a pedagogic race. We can already see that all over the countries of western Europe, everyone is deeply upset by what the large=-scale presence of Muslims has meant, how it has disrupted schools, and workplaces, and life, life on the streets, life as it is lived. There are very few who would not wish to undo the Muslim immigration that has been allowed to take place, from many different Muslim lands, over the past 30-40 years. There may now be disagreements over what now can or should be done, what is justified and what is not, but very few do not wish that on this matter, their political and media elites had been much better informed, wish that they themselves had learned more about Islam when this quite unnecessary problem developed.

We need that learning curve to steepen.

Paul Hoffman wrote:

He may have just been having a little trouble paying the mortgage...
.................

Nah—if he had been so "oppressed" as to have been having trouble with his mortgage, he'd probably have been out trying to set off a car bomb in Expo Square, or perhaps tried to blow up the "Golden Driller".

Beating and starving his wife is far more run of the mill for a good Muslim...

OT but worth it:

Time Magazine's Senior political analyst Mark Halperin literally BEGGING the GOP not to pick up Obama's dropped Mosque ball and run with it!

TOO MANY precious lines in this to quote, you have to read it!

It's pathetic.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2010923,00.html

AND IN OTHER MUSLIMAH NEWS, MUSLIMAH (MOROCCAN/GERMAN) POP STAR SAID SHE WAS "SORRY" FOR KNOWINGLY SPREADING HIV VIRUS VIA SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH NUMEROUS PARTNERS WHO NOW HAVE AIDS:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,599546,00.html

A German pop star told a court she was "sorry" Monday after admitting to having unprotected sex without telling her partners she was HIV positive.

Nadja Benaissa, 28, was appearing at a court in Darmstadt, near Frankfurt.

The former girl band singer is accused of having unprotected sex on five occasions without letting her lovers know she was infected with the virus, which causes AIDS.

One of her partners was subsequently confirmed as being HIV positive.

Benaissa is facing between six months and 10 years in prison.

The ex-member of all-female pop group No Angels, was arrested last April and charged in February this year with causing bodily harm.

According to the charges, she had unprotected sex on five occasions between 2000 and 2004 with three people.

A verdict is due on August 26.

............................

Hmmm, "The defeat of infidels and muslim lite(in Macolm X's words) by any means necessary"

I think we should leave the cynical remarks aside on this one. Domestic violence is a problem throughout the country; this woman in Tulsa is stepping up and doing something about it on a shoestring budget.

If we're really concerned about the plight of women in Islamic communities, we should applaud and support efforts such as these.

I think that link to Robert's piece is much more useful.

Only hater like Robert Spencer and company think this is than new worthly event. Since it isnot newworthly the mainstream media see no reason to cover it.

The only way to end the blatant misogyny of Islam, is for Moslems to renounce it.

Waiting............still waiting.............hmm......

There is than military base in the city I live quite afew year back the General order durning than two month heatwave with temp 116 in the shade less than 1% water in the air halt to all unneccarary daytime activiely as afew soilder die from heat stroke.

Islam insures that women will always be placed in second-class status compared to men. Sure, they'll get a few crumbs here and there, sort of like slaves who were house servants had it better than those slaves who toiled in the fields, but no one of sense (this would exclude, among others, most every leftist feminist in the West {yo, Maureen Dowd, ya' listenin'?} as well as many Muslim women who think their status under Islam is proper), after examining what Islam has to say about women, can possibly conclude that Islam is a positive for the female gender. And, as Abraham Lincoln observed about the institution of slavery actually enslaving both the slave and the slave master, so does Islam enslave everyone, yes, even the men, though such self-enslavement still does not exculpate the Muslim brute who treats women in ways they should never be treated.

I understand what you're saying, Ernie. On the surface, her efforts seem noble enough. But this woman is in denial; she left her muslim abuser but hasn't left the inspiration and license for that abuse--islam. So, she treats the symptoms without facing-up to the problem itself, let alone condemning the abuse as religiously-motivated.

Another problem: You mention, "islamic communities." That's exactly what they are--segregated states within states, foriegn entities, not part of the American community. Sorry, but I'm not OK with that. Islamic communities should exist in islamic countries. Period. And this lady is part of the "islamic community" in Tulsa. Hence, for
any good intent she may have, I consider her just another part of the problem.

Spousal-abuse is already a problem in (but not limited to) this country, no denying that. But, let's not confuse that with religiously-motivated abuse, a la islam. Does our society need this additional, harmful influence atop the inherent problem? My answer is a resounding NO!


Since it isnot newworthly the mainstream media see no reason to cover it.

You trust the mainstream media do you? Spencer always posts articles that the MSM won't touch, that's one reason he posts them...You do know Defender, that the MSM is full of sneaky subversive types that are always trying to trick you...Spencer never tries to trick you, he knows you are way too smart for that...You would be better off dumping the MSM and just read Jihad Watch for the latest news...

Read this article by spengler
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LH17Ak01.html
Titled "Why don't Americans like Muslims"
He points out that since WWII more than 3/4 of a million GI's brought home war brides. After 10 years of war and occupation in Iraq and Afgnanistan and around one and a half million service people rotated in and out of the region there have been a negligible number of requests for visas for a spouse or fiancee. For security reasons there is little fraternization but it shows how Islam smothers the human psyche and makes their women unapproachable

"When he struck me when I was with child, I left him, but I didn't leave Islam."

She simply left the end user of the abuse. What she seems to be oblivious to is the original source of that abuse...IT'S THE ISLAM, STUPID!

She, like many abused individuals, cannot bring themselves to see the source of her abuse, the evil doctrine which justifies it, and, like in this case, tend to cling to that source of abuse.

Truely sad.

I do think there should be more resources for Muslim women in America to get out from under the thumbs of the men in their lives.

First, once they have a taste of freedom, they have a choice. At that point, if they go back, they made that choice. From what I understand many really are prisoners and never had a choice.

Also, I think it is an excellent strategy, a message. If you come here and bring your wives and daughters here, we will give them avenues to leave you. You may lose your power over them, so don't come here.

"She married an Iraqi she described as a radical Muslim. 'It took me 10 years to figure that out,' she said."

10 yeeeears?! My God, it took us all of 10 seconds to figure this out ...

oops, I wasn't responding to DOI ...

Hugh

you noted, about this woman - "First, there is the horrific family background: "her older brother abused her mother and was killed by her younger brother." Mother, older brother, younger brother -- one abused, one killed for the abuse, one in prison for killing the one who abused their joint mother.

That is exactly the kind of background that makes one vulnerable to the siren song of Da'wa, which is promoted as offering some kind of instantaneous Community (Brotherhood and Sisterhood are apparently powerful), the Community of Believers."

I don't think it's just that this woman was an abused child looking for love. I suspect she was an abused child who was, in effect, conditioned to hook up with an abuser. Victim, meet Predator.

When a child is reared in a severely abusive household, three things can happen.

One possibility is that the child bides their time, escapes, gets or finds help, frees him or herself of the physical and psychological damage, and becomes an 'intelligent survivor', steering well clear of potential abusers in future. Our own 'Gravenimage' is such a survivor. Curiously, along the way in this comments forum, a number of other jihadwatch regulars have identified themselves as survivors of familial or spousal abuse. I think that those 'intelligent survivors' of familial or spouse abuse from within our own society, may well be more likely to be leery of Islam than are others with more fortunate upbringings, simply because when they encounter Muslims, everything about Muslim behaviour and demeanour screams 'potential abuser!' 'predator!' at them. Their alarm bells go off.

There are, however, two other possible responses to, or results of, childhood abuse.

In one, the abused child's sense of self, of boundaries, is destroyed: he or she ends up programmed for Victimhood. Thus, a girl abused by her father will end up choosing an abusive husband or boyfriend (and such will also tend to gravitate toward her, sensing her vulnerability). When Westerners in this category come into contact with Muslims - who I would describe as Uber-Abusers, people from a culture that *institutionalises* and normalises what we in our society define as severe sexual, emotional and physical abuse - then the outcome is perfectly predictable. And, of course, it works the other way: Muslims (just like any other Abusers) can spot Prey, like this Mary Al-Khaldi, a mile away. Mary might have ended up with a *western* partner as violent as her older brother (and I'd love to know what her father was like...). But it just so happened she met - or was noticed by - a Muslim. Her alarm bells didn't go off at once, because she was *programmed*, subconsciously, to connect with an abuser like her brother. Now she's a prisoner of Islam.

Mary Al-Khaldi jumped out of the frying-pan into the fire: from an abusive western family, into the super-abusive Mohammedan Mob. She didn't so much choose something different as...more, and worse, of what she was used to, what she was conditioned to expect.

The third possible response is that the abused child identifies with his or her abuser and grows up to become an abuser in turn. And when *that* kind of person encounters Islam...well, again, no prizes for guessing what happens.

Or maybe they're really grossly hairy under the burkas.

When I navigated to this jaw dropping The End Of Nations editorial I thought that Jihad Watch blog’s frequenters absolutely must be able to discuss this: http://hubpages.com/hub/Global-Union-The-End-Of-Nations

Yes, I don't know why the reaction here is so critical. Men are knocking the shit out of their female partners right and left, and if this Islamic-convert-woman thought to do something about it by creating a haven for her sisters in the faith, that is damn fine. Residents must work or go to school, unless they've just had a baby - isn't that constructive? - to help the women have a tool for self-sufficiency, to equip them with the means to resist falling into dependency on those who would dominate and abuse them.

On the matter of her not realizing her husband was a radical Muslim for 10 years - how many of you, of us, have been in long marriages or relationships, and eventually come to devastating realizations about our partners that, in retrospect, stunned us? Realizations that we could not imagine had taken us so long to make, realizations of such horror that we had in our conscious and subconscious minds evaded the discoveries to avoid the calling into question of our life's basis?

Let's preserve some ability to distinguish humanity among Muslims here in our forum. People of constructive aim who want to aid those who are suffering deserve respect, I believe, and this shelter has such a person at its helm.

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