Taliban: Pakistani flood victims must refuse aid from "foreign infidels"

Heading off a corrupting influence. "Taliban calls for boycott of Western aid as Swat Valley ravaged by floods," by Neil Tweedie in the Telegraph, August 11 (thanks to Mackie):

The Taliban has told victims of Pakistan's floods to boycott aid from "foreign infidels" as the UN called for $460 million in emergency aid to prevent a rise in the death toll.

"SMILE," orders the huge welcoming sign by the road, "you're in Swat!"

There isn't much to smile about here, though, in the mountainous far north of Pakistan, where until recently the Taliban ruled.

Last year, two million people fled their homes in the valley to escape heavy fighting as the Pakistani army sought to impose control over the area; now the floods have come to wreak even greater destruction. [...]

"We condemn American and other foreign aid and believe that it will lead to subjugation," said Pakistan Taliban Azam Tariq. "Our jihad against America will continue."

With the rhetoric came the offer of $20 million (£12.7 million) in Taliban aid, a doubtful promise and, in any case, a drop in the ocean.

Anthony Cordesman, who has advised the Obama administration on Pakistan, said the floods represent "a major opportunity" for Islamist groups.

"If we have to deal with a radicalised Pakistan, that raises the threat that is posed by terrorism by several orders of magnitude," he said.

The people of Swat, once a popular destination, are happy to accept any help. Thousands of men queue each day at food centres, some run by Islamic charities....

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Amazing ! Just now I saw the news that Indian foreign minister, SM Krishna, who was insulted in last meeting by Pak foreign minister, in spite of the fact that India suffered brutality at the hands of Pakistan, called the same Paki FM to offer 5 million dollars aid.

Our Prime Minister, who is surely behind such "gestures", is a dhimmi to beat all dhimmis.

And now this - Taliban want to refuse all "infidel" aid !!

Sanjay

"We condemn American and other foreign aid and believe that it will lead to subjugation," said Pakistan Taliban Azam Tariq.

*Fine*! Noooo problem; the Taliban can go swim in their own stinking floodwater

Where the home in the valley
Meets the damp dirty prison
And the executioners face
Is always well hidden. . .

from A Hard Rains A-Gonna Fall by B.Dylan

Taliban: Pakistani flood victims must refuse aid from "foreign infidels"
.................

In that case, most of them will be refusing aid altogether—since neither the Pakistani government nor the local "brave mujehideen" are doing much for the victims.

Except, of course, possibly *threatening them*. Is the Taliban merely "suggesting" that flood victims turn down that aid, or is it likely to follow up with violence anyone local who helps with the distribution?

I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

And meanwhile, here are the ever-hopeful Infidels who are offering this aid:

"US aid wins friends in Pakistan"

"KALAM, Pakistan — U.S. Army helicopters carrying emergency food and water buzzed over the swollen river and washed-out bridges, landing in the valley once controlled by the Taliban. They returned laden with grateful Pakistani flood survivors — newly won friends in a country where many regard America as the No. 1 enemy."

http://azstarnet.com/news/world/article_3de62899-8934-52a9-b705-afac7c6623ad.html

"Other U.S. relief missions to disasters in the Muslim world - including the 2005 earthquake in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir and the 2004 tsunami in Indonesia - were credited with improving the image of the United States, at least in the short term."

How short is that "short term"? How many 'friends' do you suppose the US still has in Kashmir and Banda Aceh?

But...but...surely it's allahs will?
Shouldn't they be embracing their places with the virgins?
Get with the programme people!

I'm afraid they are not popular over here, we don't take kindly to their sort of behaviour especially post 7/7. I take no joy in it but I find myself curiously indifferent.

This is a huge step forward--we're finally starting to understand one another. I don't WANT to help them. And they don't WANT my help. DEAL! Let's have more of this productive "dialogue!"

It is the will of Allah, and I know that President Obama is mindful of offending Muslims. Well, it's too bad and so sad - but how can we mere unbelievers stand against the will of Allah? It is his will that the Pakistanis suffer.............

But what about the Saudis? They've got lots of kuffar cash! Surely Allah would be pleased if the "Guardian of the Two Sacred Shrines" would send aid to his brother Muslims.

Pakistanis waiting for the phone to ring. Still waiting. Still waiting.........

What do you think Prez O'Umma will say if and when one of those Marine helicopter's get blown out of the sky by these Misunderstanders of Islam?

Let me give it a go -

Although regrettable, as we all share in the grief of the families who have lost loved ones, America cannot let the misguided make us pause. This important, humanitarian effort will have it victims counted along side it's saviors.

I feel better already...

One news video of the flood victims showed a rescue boat encountering a group of women and children on a rapidly diminishing island. The women refused an offer to be taken to a place of safety. Why ? Because their men had gone off to seek help and of course being muslim they could not leave with unrelated men but had to wait for their husbands to return.

This was reminiscent of the Saudi schoolgirls forced back into a blazing building by "mutaween" religious police because they could not leave without being properly veiled and robed. Fifteeen died in that incident in 2002.

Interesting idea I say go for it. Let the Red Crescent deal with Muslims, we could use our resources better elsewhere.

Considering how much the Umma supports their Pillars yeah the Kuffar shouldn't have to do anything, I mean charity is not just encouraged it is required. Muslims donate money to charities all the time.

Let them put their money where their mouths are. Take care of their fellow Muslims, rebuild the devastated areas.

Just remember plumbing and sewage go in first.

I have some advice for the Pakistanis about this $20 million offer...

Get it in your hands before you turn down any aid from anyone else!

The Taliban has a reputation for doing things on the cheap and always finding a way to worm out of any deal they don't like...

such as the The Truce of Hudaybiyyah!

Hiya George, You beat me to it!

I have absolutely no intention of ever supporting anything islamic ever again. I have "tolerance fatigue" when it comes to izlam.

I shall instead spend my time compiling a comprehensive list of companies, organizations & people ( hear that Barry et al?) I will boycott because of apologizing, appeasing and pandering to izlam and it's proponents.

The believers needn't worry about me upsetting the poppy cart & giving them any money, it isn't going to happen.

Give them nothing, take them nowhere.
We shouldn't be providing any aid, after all, wouldn't their predicament just be "Allah's will?"

Or is it Allah's will that the infidel bail them out again with relief jizya?

A USMC friend of mine, ironically a liberal Muslim of Pakistani birth and education, but a conservative Republican to boot who has "big issues" with "my people" back home as he calls Muslims, was sent over a few years back to help out with the quake victims. He has given me a lot of insight into the people, their views, the tribal divisions and ethnic strife, as well as the world view of the tribes in that area, who are generally despised by ethnic Urdu-speaking Pakistanis in the lowlands.

My Muslim Pakistani Marine buddy was happy to share my house because I could accomodate his dietary restrictions with understanding and no inconvenience. He helped me by being a great guy and giving me the practical insight that not all Muslims are cut from the same cloth.

Does anyone think that the Saudis will syphon off some of the $600,000,000 they are spending on that modern-day Tower of Babel mega-watch they are erecting in Mecca? Don't hold your collective breath on that one.

""We condemn American and other foreign aid and believe that it will lead to subjugation," said Pakistan Taliban Azam Tariq. "Our jihad against America will continue."


Is ole Azam afraid the suffering Muslims just might appreciate food, medicine, shelter, and water to save them and actually recognized the fact that it actually comes from Infidels and not the Taliban?....

Hi Mr. WPF,

I love your term "tolerance fatigue," and I share that affliction! And, to quote an old gag-Country Western tune, "When their phone don't ring...that'll be me!"

G

£300m earthquake aid 'misused by Zardari’

More than £300 million in foreign aid for victims of the 2005 Pakistan earthquake has been diverted by President Asif Zardari's government to other causes, officials have told The Daily Telegraph.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/7944792/300m-earthquake-aid-misused-by-Zardari.html

For once I'm with the Taliban.

Shari’a - Literally, the “way to the watering hole.”

Being as this is an application of Shari'a, us infidels should just butt out.

Yes , I have also come across some good Pakistanis & many good trustworthy muslims among Indians. But not significant enough to impact the fire & brimstone belching among them. All said and done their allegiance is to Ummah.

As a nation Pakistan shall always remain anti India , anti hindus. India I am afraid relishes masochistically genuflecting before Pakistan. Though certain hindus are pro Israel & America , yet as a nation India staunchly tilts towards Russia & many Arab countries.You can find many admirers of Hitler among Indians. There are too many fissures among hindus to start with.

India ought to have focussed on cultivating cordial relations with China , Israel and America instead of Russia & Pakistan much earlier. My opinions.

It is often said geography decides political affiliations. But Hindu Dharma emphatically states being steadfastly anchored in Dharma not geography confers victory.

Recently for Republic Day celebrations India invited Saudi King as chief guest. Who did come but refused to visit samadhi of Gandhi. That did not perturb Indians at all.

Had he been a British / American / Jew not visiting Gandhi samadhi Indians would have reacted abominably outraged. Demanding apologies & apologies. That is why India does not command respect as a nation.

It is best for humanity if no one helps Pakistan. Pakistan Taliban threatened Pakistan not to accept any money from the infidels. Pakistan Taliban are fanatics at war with other fanatics. The other fanatics are Pakistan Army, Afghan Taliban, Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Toiba and Haqqani Network. Any money given by the public and the overseas governments would end up in the hands of these fanatics. This is what happened after Kashmir Earth Quake. The fanatics used the money to stock up weapons, which were used against civilians, US and NATO troops and Afghan and Indian security forces. The money meant for boots for the refugees was used to purchase mountain boots for the terrorists. The refugees carried on walking barefoot in the snow clad mountains. All the Red Cross, Oxfam, Christian Aid & CAFOD aid would end up in the hands of the terrorists so they can continue their violence against unarmed civilians. So, when you put money into the charity collection box, please remember you are contributing towards killing and maiming of an innocent child.

The Pakistani Taliban must be getting disaster aid training from the Myanmar (Burmese) military junta. The suffering of the subjegated population is of no importance, as long as
the iron-fisted rule of the Taliban (in this case) can continue unabated.
For the Taliban, a beaten-down populace is far easier to rule than one that has other options, in this case help from the outside world.

Ban Kim-Moon devastated by the devastation in Pakistan regions.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10981230

The Arab countries can easily muster up $100 million more for aid to Pakistan's natural disaster. Just don't build the triumphalism Ground Zero mosque in lower Manhattan, and send the money to Pakistan. It is all All's will, if so, so Allah will be pleased having sent such terrible destruction on his true believers. No aid... Taliban may have a point.

What is happening here is something new, may start a new trend: Slow delivery or no aid from the West to Muslim devastated countries. "No to Sharia" can take many forms.

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