Remember, this group could qualify for taxpayer-supported public financing. Looks like they need to pony up a little taxpayer support of their own.
Still more on this story. "Mosque big owes 224G tax," by Isabel Vincent and Melissa Klein for the New York Post, August 29 (thanks to all who sent this in):
The mosque developers are tax deadbeats.
Sharif El-Gamal, the leading organizer behind the mosque and community center near Ground Zero, owes $224,270.77 in back property tax on the site, city records show.
El-Gamal's company, 45 Park Place Partners, failed to pay its half-yearly bills in January and July, according to the city Finance Department.
The delinquency is a possible violation of El-Gamal's lease with Con Edison, which owns half of the proposed building site on Park Place. El-Gamal owns the other half but must pay taxes on the entire parcel.
The lease agreement, obtained by The Post, specifies that El-Gamal's company pay taxes on the property and submit receipts to Con Ed.
The utility said it would have to review any possible lease violations.
The late taxes are the latest wrinkle in the controversial plan to put the 15-story mosque near the World Trade Center site.
Before any building can go forward, the developers also must get approval from the MTA because the 2 and 3 subway lines run under a portion of the Park Place property, The Post has learned.
El-Gamal's spokesperson insisted to The Post that the taxes had been paid and that the "subway lines do not pose a problem."
El-Gamal plans to tear down the two buildings on the Park Place site, which housed a Burlington Coat Factory store but have been empty since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, when one was damaged.
The Post revealed this month that El-Gamal owned only half the site. Gamal purchased the lease to the Con Ed property for $700,000 last year when he bought the other building on the site for $4.8 million.
He has told Con Ed he wants to buy the building at 49-51 Park Place, which Con Ed is appraising to determine fair market value.
El-Gamal insisted to The Post that the lease permitted him to demolish the property at any time.
But the lease agreement says El-Gamal must provide Con Ed with a copy of a financing commitment or other proof that money is available to "cover the estimated cost of demolition of the building and construction of the new building."
"Before any building can go forward, the developers also must get approval from the MTA because the 2 and 3 subway lines run under a portion of the Park Place property, The Post has learned."
If there are Joooooz travelling on those lines will they interfere with the prayers going down to Allah?
I called King Abdullah about this tax problem...He assured me the check was in the mail...
"Before any building can go forward, the developers also must get approval from the MTA because the 2 and 3 subway lines run under a portion of the Park Place property, The Post has learned.
El-Gamal's spokesperson insisted to The Post that the taxes had been paid and that the "subway lines do not pose a problem."
Interesting....what if a secret access to the 2 and 3 subway lines were part of the mosque plans?.....
"Sharif El-Gamal, the leading organizer behind the mosque and community center near Ground Zero, owes $224,270.77 in back property tax on the site, city records show."
Just imagine what they would owe if the property were improved with the addition of a new multi-million dollar building on the property...
Mohammed never paid tax. It's Sunna! However, don't be surprised if Gamal pulls off a couple of robberies to get the money -- that's Sunna, too!
Yea, don't be surprised to soon read about swarthy ex-waiters knocking over 7-11s.
How long has this outfit been delinquent on its taxes? How long before the city (or state) can seize the property for back taxes?
What? Don't you sheeple know anything? Muslims DON'T have to pay Jizya....YOU do. Why aren't you paying attention the way you should be paying the Jizya?
No, no, no. They are counting on being tax exempt once the mosque is built. And the past taxes due would be forgiven by the dhimmi mayor of New York Bloomberg Khan!!!
Pat Condell's Bad faith at Ground Zero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJQ4bwGPRuk&feature=player_embedded#!
HA!......you, of course, are absolutely correct.....
What in heck was his Polish Catholic mother thinking???
The answer may lie in if you can figure out why so many Western christian, jewish women are marrying these Muslims from Egypt, Morocco, Algeria,and so on. I am sure you have seen blogs on Daniel Pipes site "Advice to non-Muslim women on marrying Muslims". Obviously they have not learned the truth about Islam/Muslims yet. They find out only after the marriage and then it's too late!!!
I am telling you this guy is looking to EXTORT money from people who do not want this mosque built. He and his handers KNOW they owe a TAX bundle on that building. It may be a part of their plans.
Does CON-ED over look lease violations on OTHER tenants OR just with this fool??
God bless those reporters working on this article. I LOVE YOU gals.... Isabel Vincent and Melissa Klein. THANK YOU .
DOWN TO ALLAH.... LOL! That was cute.
Pat Condell sums up everything very nicely :
"Moving it somewhere else would negate the very purpose of building it: which is to rub 9/11 in America's face".
"As for the supposedly moderate imam behind it he supports Sharia, he supports the Iranian theocracy, he won't condemn terrorism, not even the exploitation of children as suicide bombers, and he blames America for 9/11, and now we hear he's even taken credit for Obama's speech in Cairo, you know: where he sucked up to the Muslim world and called it statesmanship."
"I wonder if he had anything to do with the president's recent Ramadan speech where he praised Islam's role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings. Yes, president Obama actually said those words and with a straight face."
And lots more.
"... the 2 and 3 subway lines run under a portion of the Park Place property..." That's great. Don't be surprised, when approval-time rolls around, to discover the MTA has been attending the same yoga/flexibility classes as Bend-Over-Backwards-Bloomberg. Although fear of incurring the wrath of Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and his decapitating cohorts can't be ruled out with respect to the mayor's disgusting kowtowing, my instincts keep screaming something about greasy palms. An investigation must be initiated (if it hasn't already been) to check Bloomberg's account/s for large deposits (and their origin/s) made within the past 18 months or so. The more I learn about the "Religion of Peace", the more disgusted I become. To paraphrase Walid Shoebat, "Islam wasn't hijacked by a few radicals on 911 ... the only thing that was hijacked were commercial airliners by 19 Muslims who followed the edicts of the Koran to the letter."
Story after story along these lines, i.e., things are not what they same and unsavory characters are behind the building of the Ground Zero (N.B., not "near" Ground Zero) Mosque (aka known as a cultural center), makes me more confident by the day that this monument to muck will never be built.
Also, this entire attempt to build this gloating monstrosity has had the unintended effect of demonstrating just how many Americans at some level of consciousness have come to realize there's something wrong with Islam. One indicator of this growing awareness is the uptick in ad hominem attacks by mucho members of the MSM, dhimmi apologists of the first order (e.g., Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann and Maureen Dowd, clueless all).
Desperation in the camp of one's enemy is always a good sign. I certainly see it in this case. I'm going to allow myself to be optimistic right now and hence pop a cold one, or maybe two, in satisfaction of this expanding realization. Pork BBQ will go nicely in complementing this anticipatory victory libation. Throw in some fine music and I'll have a tripple whammy against Mo's dictates---no alcohol, no pork and no tunes. Satisfying to be sure.
In my view, the fix is in to build this mosque.
Still, this information about delinquent taxes might just put a stop to Gamal's developing the property.
In any case, this post provides excellent facts to spring on my dhimmi friends. Yes, to my sadness, I do have dhimmi friends.
Meanwhile, over at Politico, the intrepid Ken Vogel is doing Nancy Pelosi's bidding by ferreting out the lavish funding behind FDI/SIOA's bus ad campaign:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/pelosis-puppet-politico-hot-on-the-money-trail-of-.html
Obviously stories such as this are of scant interest to "journalists" of this stripe.
Well, whether the GZM is built or not, I think that all of us here at JW owe el-Gamal a big Thank You for the hugely negative publicity that he has brought to Islam this summer.
It's not for nothing that Al Azhar in Cairo intimated that the GZM was a Zionist conspiracy. After all, is there a better way to illustrate the alleged supremacist - or boorish - nature of Islam?
The monumental ineptness involved here leads me to believe that this whole thing could very well be the actions of an ex-waiter, real-estate tycoon wannabe who has run smack into the Peter Principle.
Too bad we have to wait until the end of the year before we vote on the JW Oscars, because if there was a special category for The Inadvertant Anti-Dhimmi, I'd nominate el Gamal.
when real reporters dig into this mess they are finding out more than the so called government watchdogs.. where is this democRAT who is running for Governor? keep up the great work guys!
"The Inadvertant Anti-Dhimmi".
Perfect title for the "kool operator-front man" for ????? whatever they are.
The "tolerant" left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCWDR6VuN8I
This tax cheating is the sort of problem Senator Joseph McCarthy--oops, Representative Nancy Pelosi--ought to be investigating, not the exercise of First Amendment rights by American citizens, permanent residents, and sympathetic visitors (that's in case Dumbeldore's Army and people like that make it to our shores for the next anti-GZM protest).
It truly is suspicious that SHarif El-Gamal, who was a waiter last year, suddenly becomes the buyer of a multimillion property in lower Manhattan, and that his partner Elzamaty has been involved in a number of questionable dealings. Further, the idea that the GZM could be eligible for public funds, and that such funding is supported by people who'd cry bloody murder if such public funding went to an openly Christian homeless shelter, is a travesty. I'm going to write to Mayor Bloomberg, my Congressional Representative, and both of my Senators over this.
If 'Not Without My Daughter' by Betty Mahmoody wasn't enough, nor 'My Afghan Captivity' by Phyllis Chesler (both books ought to be in every high school and parish library, and be given by every Infidel mother to her daughter) then the two books by 'Cassandra' (pseudonym), entitled 'Escape! from an Arab [sic: shoulda been, 'Muslim'] Marriage' and '33 Secrets Arab Men Never Tell American Women' should surely do the trick.
http://www.escapefromanarabmarriage.com/index.html
http://www.escapefromanarabmarriage.com/33_secrets.html
And then there's Miriam Ali's 'Without Mercy' - telling the story of how, having foolishly married a Yemeni Muslim man in the UK, she had to pursue him to Yemen in order to try to rescue their two under-age daughters whom he had whisked off to Yemen and sold - as under-age wives - to the highest bidder. Somehow, she managed to rescue one; but one was gone, broken and brainwashed.
Rosemary Sookhdeo's 'Stepping Into the Shadows: Why Western Women Convert to Islam' should also be part of the arsenal of every Christian parent, priest, pastor or school chaplain (we have chaplains in Australian state schools). It is full of cautionary tales told by survivors of what one might call 'marriage jihad' - women who had foolishly married Muslims and converted to Islam, but had then miraculously come to their senses, and done a bunk.
Muslim Miss Universe contestant and Donald Trump both oppose building this monstrous mosque. She says "move it", and Trump says "You're fired!"
OT, But given the BBC's global reach, this is worth mentioning
Video: Correcting BBC Crusades Propaganda
Vlad Tepes Blog 29 August 2010
By Vlad Tepes
Frankly, to properly answer all the misinformation, disinformation and outright lies of the BBC propaganda video about the crusades and middle ages, I would need a month at least and the result would be absurd as I would have to stop the video every 90 frames and cut in with what is wrong. So I had to content myself with addressing some of the worst outright lies of this video and one major 'oversight'.
http://europenews.dk/en/node/34798
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The Real History of the Crusades
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0055.html
http://www.catholicity.com/commentary/madden/03463.html
http://www.americanoutlook.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=article_detail&id=1691
and
HORRIBLE HISTORIES....UPDATE
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2010/08/horrible-historiesupdate.html#comments
The above are all absolute must reads.
The Real History of the Crusades
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0055.html
http://www.catholicity.com/commentary/madden/03463.html
http://www.americanoutlook.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=article_detail&id=1691
HORRIBLE HISTORIES....UPDATE
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2010/08/horrible-historiesupdate.html#comments
The above are all absolute must reads.
The BBC is re-writing of the history of the Crusades, and coupled with its global reach, is beginning to attract the attention of a few bloggers. That's all we have except the truth.
" 'marriage jihad' "
This one is even better than "super secret stealth Jihad", thanks.
If you really think all Muslims everywhere base their marriages on converting their spouse to Islam, you are either vastly over or under estimating the average Muslim.
I remember reading last month about an American couple that got busted selling their infant daughter for sex on the internet. However, I don't like to generalize to all Americans everywhere.
At any rate in my Islamic Hellhole, child marriage is not legal.
At any rate in my Islamic Hellhole, child marriage is not legal.
Why not? Shouldn't Islamic societies strive to be more Islamic by following Muhammad's example?
How do you feel about your "perfect" and "beloved" prophet banging a 9 year old girl? Does it make you swell up with pride to know you follow such a sick piece of shit?
You think the NY tax collectors will go after this bunch as they have gone after the bagel stores for sales taxes on a slice of a bagel?
Oh Silly me. Of course not! Islam gets favoritism from government and "useful idiot" Mayor Bloomberg.
It does make my hear sing to know that YOU ACTUALLY CALL IT WHAT IT IS.... an islamic hellhole!!
YOU ARE AN a$$h---
BRAVO!!!You put him in his place.... OF SHAME!!
LOL
Assuming he can find a 7-11 not owned by a Pakistani.
"If you really think all Muslims everywhere base their marriages on converting their spouse to Islam, you are either vastly over or under estimating the average Muslim."
Yea I can see where beating them or treating them like dogs when they are still "infidels" can be more fun.
Hey "Yusef", are you still clinging to the rotting corpse of Islam?
Shame on you you pathetic idiot.
You have pulled the wrong card in confronting 'dumbledoesarmy' this day my friend. This Aussie Lady has more strength and intelligence than you could dream of mustering on your very best of days.
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I am an ex-Muslim Man, Yusef.
And would be happy to hang out and chat with you further about these matters. In fact, go ahead and invite all of your Muslim "friends" to help you out.
Please make another comment Yufef, I am bored right now and would love to talk to you some more my dear Brother.
YYK sez:
No, we are doing neither. We have read the Unholy Trinity of islam and we JWers know the truth. Hence:
1. A muslimah can not marry a kafir;
2. A muslim may marry a kafir provied she eventually accepts the Gift of islam;
3. All children born into such "marriages" are permitted to retain the faith of their mother until puberty.
So tell us, Yusef, what did I get wrong with this analysis?
Just wondering...
...in my Islamic Hellhole...
Are you one of those Islamosadists that can't be bothered with marriage? With the four witness, male innocent until proven guilty Sharia, why bother with the messy complications of bride-price or divorce when rape is such an attractive option? Maybe your gay and discovery is enough of a bullet to dodge at the moment? Ex-Bacha basi and really not sure if your third or fourth sex?
From a tableau at the Imperial Museum in Japan:
http://imgur.com/PD8aE.jpg
Why Can't a Branch of This Museum Be Opened in Nanking?
I hope that Chinese BIGOTS wouldn't oppose it! We don't need any more JAPANOPHOBIA!
Where's Jon Stewart? Where's Keith Olbermann? Why don't they lend their voices to the cause?
After all, NOT ALL JAPANESE PARTICIPATED IN THE RAPE OF NANKING! It was just a comparatively small number. The rest were sitting back in Japan.
If it makes you all happy, it wouldn't really have to be a full-blown Japanese War Museum built there - it could include a SWIMMING POOL (with just a small Yasukuni-style Shinto Shrine at the top floor)
Supporting the building of this shrine - I mean, Japanese Cultural Center - would be a step towards fostering closer Sino-Japanese relations. China's state is committed towards not favoring or disfavoring any particular religion, isn't it?
/sarc
When exactly did Sharif work as a waiter before his endeavor with Soho Properties? It appears, from information culled from the Soho Properties website archives that Sharif was working in real estate since 2000.
"InternetArchive/Wayback Machine" provides the following information about SohoProperties website archives:
****************Just imagine for a moment if our guys were deadbeats?
You would never hear the end of it in the media.
We, who have established an alternative media for a world that is hungry for the truth, are under attack.
Recently, the NY Times, the newspaper of "record", ran a piece in which it "exposed" how Americans, Israelis and others are receiving training in how to correct lies and propaganda put on Wikipedia by Islamists, Jihadists and anti-semites.
They have no problem that the enemies of America have been using Wikipedia to distort things.
Their only problem is that some of us seek to correct these lies.
http://jewishdailyreport.wordpress.com/2010/08/26/ny-times-jews-dominating-wikipedia/
"Hey "Yusef", are you still clinging to the rotting corpse of Islam?"
I love it when an ex-muslim talks dirts like that, lol ...although islam never had an ounce of life to begin with.
"Shame on you you pathetic idiot."
Yeah, it is shameful! ...and everyone but "Yusef" can see it.
paraphrased from pulsar182: "what if they were to gain access to the 2 and 3 trains from the mosque?"
Ugh - something new to worry about? Rats scurrying through subterranean mazes of tunnels en route to their sickening infiltration of the subways?
But I thought we were talking about the mosque project . . . . ? . . . oh . . .
Silly! It's NOT A MOSQUE!! It's a community center with a pool and classrooms and a performing arts center and - like that. Oh, and maybe some dingy old corner where people could throw down prayer rugs if they felt like it once in a while - but it is most certainly NOT a MOSQUE.
So it will not, CANNOT be tax-exempt. Since it's not a religious organization.
Unless - unless - you don't think that some loophole or exception would POSSIBLY be made for these community-minded folks, do you? In the interests of supporting the integration of immigrants into our grand culture? For really good causes, government has that discretion, thank God (tee hee, I mean Allah!)
It would be a nice gesture, now that I think of it. I think I will argue in favor of it. At the next Community Board 1 meeting. Those people seemed like such intelligent, receptive people. Broad-minded - to a fault!