More on the UK's abject cultural collapse. When in Muslim countries, non-Muslims must conform to Islamic mores. When in non-Muslim countries, non-Muslims must conform to Islamic mores. Got it?
"Parents' fury at council plans for halal-only menus in primary schools," from the Daily Mail, August 5 (thanks to all who sent this in):
Parents have expressed fury at plans to serve pupils halal-only menus for school dinners.In a move which has also enraged animal welfare groups, only meat from animals killed and prepared using Islamic teaching may be allowed at 52 primaries in Harrow.
Critics say the plan puts the needs of Muslim children before those of other faiths, while parents say they have not been consulted over the scheme....
And putting the needs of Muslims first is precisely in accord with Sharia.
What is the thinking behind this awful decision? Did Council think that this is an important issue for Muslims, but not an issue at all for non-Muslims -- therefore there would be little objection?
Council will find it was wrong. It's probably true that most meat eaters in the UK never gave a thought to how their meat animals are slaughtered. But now, the time has come to start thinking.
Good news.
There is also a theological issue here. Since halal meat is blessed by a religion (and a religious leader in some cases), Christians who participate in eating the meat give credence to the belief system which is symbolized in the meat.
I am aware of the issue in the Bible of eating meat being blessed by idols, and Paul saying that we all know that the idols are not gods and therefore the blessing is moot. Allah is no god at all, however I will not eat halal meat because of the symbolic taint that is inherent in the meat being labelled "halal". By eating this meat, I give credence to the Islamic belief system which is fundamentally blasphemous to the Christian belief system.
While not a grave sin, I would consider eating halal meat to be sinful and therefore do not eat it.
I suspect many Christians would feel this way and therefore a challenge based on religious freedom could be made by parents at these schools. Christians should have non-halal meat made available.
No offense to our British friends here, but time and again on these pages, the Brits come across as the most servile, gonadless, dhimmified people in the world...(with the possible exception of the Swedes).
PS - That of course DOESN'T include the courageous, young fighting men and women of the British Armed Forces.
Islamic empire
You are the minority there living off the largess of the British people while you sit on your worthless, lazy butts all day planning to destroy the system that enables your slothful lives.
But hey as you muslims like to say "To hell with freedom" right? What do you fools think you are going to do when you eradicate the people who work and finance your disgusting lives? Back to living in a muslim shithole only it will be in Europe not the middle east.
Enjoy hell when you die and go to be with your murderous, insane prophet of death, destruction, misery and chaos. Satan be with you now as always you glowing eyed demon.
Halal is the cruelest form of animal slaughter for human consumption. It has no place in any civilised society. The practice should be banned.
This barbaric practice befits the religion it wears.
More appeasement from dhimmi leftist media in Britain:
Mainstream Islamic organisations 'share al-Qaeda ideology'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7928377/Mainstream-Islamic-organisations-share-al-Qaeda-ideology.html
In a move which has also enraged animal welfare groups, only meat from animals killed and prepared using Islamic teaching may be allowed at 52 primaries in Harrow.
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Harrow is where Muslims rioted during a demonstration outside a mosque on September 11 of last year led by The English Defence League (EDL) and Stop the Islamisation of Europe (SIOE)—as always in British news articles these day, "Asians" should read "Muslims":
"Hundreds of Asian youths threw rocks, bottles and fireworks at riot police last night as anger over an anti-Muslim demonstration spilled onto the streets of Harrow.
...Anti-Islamic protesters had to be sheltered by riot police who formed a cordon round them and rescued one from a beating after he was caught and set upon by a crowd of Asian youths. As police protected the men, further violence broke out when a number of masked protesters started hurling bottles, rocks and fireworks at officers.
...In Harrow, several of the Asian youths making up the bulk of 1,500 counter-protesters armed themselves with sticks and metal poles. Nine of the arrests were for the suspected possession of offensive weapons."
Notice the gall of this statement:
"Elders at the mosque said the timing of the protests were particularly insensitive because it fell not just on the anniversary of the 11 September attacks, but also during Ramadan, a deeply spiritual month where Muslims fast from dawn until sunset."
Holding this on September 11 was *insensitive to Muslims*? Unbelievable.
Check this out:
"The violence which erupted in the early evening came in stark contrast to the peaceful mass protest earlier in the day before the anti-Islamic demonstrators had arrived.
John Denham, the Communities Secretary, compared the protests organised by groups such as the English Defence league to the rise of Oswald Moseley's blackshirts in the 1930s and its role in provoking violent street fights, particularly the Battle of Cable Street in 1936."
This, even though the violence was perpetrated *entirely by Muslims*. Muslims then go on to characterize their violence as "defense" of their mosque.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rightwing-protestors-target-harrow-mosque-1785797.html
Having had children in schools in Harrow a few years ago, it never dawned on me to demand that all children (muslim, Hindu and Christian) should now eat kosher, we just sent them in with packed lunches. How stupid of me, why didn’t we make similar demands, there were enough Jews there.
The only place we expect to be catered for is on airplanes where we have no option to provide for what I expect others will see it as being fussy. When there is no option, vegetarian is usually there.
I know of a case where a muslim family sucked up to the local church even having their child baptized to get them into a particularly good church school in Barnet, within 3 months the 7 year old was going to school in one of those ridiculous black scarf’s having forsaken her new found Christianity, I guess demanding hallal meals too.
As for discussion here about barbaric slaughtering, observant jews would say the same about western slaughtering methods (Kosher is very similar to hallal). Ever wonder why the “heel” is cut off supermarket chickens :). This discussion really is off topic here.
Halal meat is a sacrifice made to Allah...a demon, thus unclean for Christians, Jews and every decent human being.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/
Supplementary:
"Halal-only school dinners slammed by animal lovers"
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/66814,news-comment,news-politics,halal-only-school-dinners-slammed-by-animal-lovers-islam-muslim-religion
Forcing - and it really is nothing else - infidels to eat food that is in accordance with muslim tenets is the easy way out. In the West there is among decent and educated ordinary people an understandable fear of being viewed as intolerant and racist, and it has lead to quite inordinate expressions among which not the least is proving your tolerance by giving in to intolerant minority demands.
Tolerance has become conceding to the intolerant everything he wouldn´t dream of conceding to you.
Halal and kosher methods of slaughter should both be banned in a civilised society. If it is to be served to indigenous white British children.......a no holds barred graphic film of the methods used to kill the animals should be shown to the youngsters....without any spin from perpetrators and their apologists.
faye sullivan, your reply to the islamic empire scum bag is right on target. it is very obvious that nothing will change it will only get worse. so are there any normal nonpolitically correct people out there that have had ENOUGH with this cancer and is it not time to start to figure out how to best remove it (massive deportations), stop the rapid and aggressive metastases (enact laws with teeth, outlawing ANYTHING REMOTELY close to sharia law; have a certified translation of the imams' speeches and use a BIG BLACKK MARKER deleting anything that even remotely might have a double entendre and promote incitement or encouraging the aggressive path of this religion of piss)
ensure proper disposal of the diseased tissues (jail, back to their 7th century country of origin, let them choose...)
,and finally let us believe in prevention! let us not allow this abomination from occuring again!
Hmm...Good news...I know you don't give a twit for dead Christian priests, but one named Meister Eckhardt (google it)
Said...'God does not love creatures as creatures, God loves creatures as God'...So when you butcher an animal, especially halal style, according to Eckhardt, you are butchering God...
That somehow does not seem like good news...
this disgrace was on bbc news radio 5lives main news hour , they were inundated with calls and e mails of complaint, complaints are starting to come in all over the net, tonights main ch 4 news should be interesting, thank goodness, public,(not-gov) outcry is growing, all the time over here in the uk the strain is showing
Neil,
I am in almost daily contact with my, thankfully, Republican Senators and Representatives. Sent a nice email out today asking for direction as to what things I can do on a local level to work towards halting the progress of this horrific evil. Please let your senator know how you feel about "Sharia Kagan" as a Supreme Court justice.
I am outraged and am willing to fight with all that's in me to stop this insanity here in the US. My forefathers fought in the Revolutionary War and I am a devout Protestant Christian. I have everything to lose and nothing to gain by sitting silently on my butt and watching from the sidelines. As a Christian I feel called by God to fight Satan in his islamic form. A religion that speaks in glowing terms about the "beauty and sanctity" of stoning is from HELL. I have actually had one of these thugs tell me how stoning is one of Allah's gifts!
God in his heaven guide us to the path of action that will help us to win a decisively against satan and his followers. We need to somehow come together and begin taking action like RS an PG and others are doing. More of us have got to mobilize. They really do want to kill us so they can take what we have and go back to living like 7th century sadistic barbarians.
SoJ (Soldier for Jesus)
Faye
Promotes numbness to cruelty & desensitizes the human.
I think Brits have totally lost it!!!
When do you think they will convert or get beheaded???
May be a lesson for Americans to stop Muslim immigration now before we come to this stage!!!
"What do you fools think you are going to do when you eradicate the people who work and finance your disgusting lives? Back to living in a muslim shithole only it will be in Europe not the middle east."
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That's not what they really want. Mohammed's M.O. was never a Mongol-like slash and burn philosophy. There's no future in that. No, what these English Muslims really dream of (as well as their Palestinian brothers) is not the "destruction" of Western societies. That gets them nothing but ruins. The idea is to take over and institute a dhimmi class system.
That's what most of these "agitators" are dreaming of when they wax historic about the Golden Age of Islam. Peace. With submissive Jews and Christians doing all the work and taxed to death while Muslim princes stroll around with their harems in tow, while the hard-working dhimmis bow their heads as they pass. That's what they see as the future worth fighting for.
That's why most "Palestinians" don't want to buckle down and "out-work" their Israeli neighbors. They simply stand and look hatefully over the walls at prosperity that should be theirs to control. Mohammed never taught his followers to buckle down, study hard and work hard and build. No, that's what the people over the Fence are for.
You think you're insulting the Muslim poster by calling him a lazy welfare recipient? I very much doubt it. What you describe as "welfare", he is taught is his just due from the kafir.
The council will be using its preferred supplier, Harrison's, which has been providing halal-only menus to Harrow's high schools for four years after a decision reached by a consortium.
A council spokesman said: 'Halal meat was written into the specifications when high schools were procuring their catering contracts.
'This was due to recommendations from dietitians.'
However, the local authority admitted that the plans to expand the scheme into primary schools is on hold until autumn after complaints from parents.
"Council", "consortium", "dieticians", use of the passive voice. No one takes responsibility for their decisions anymore.
Can a UK parent object to the added cost of slaughtering animals that involves hocus pocus death cult incantation rituals? No more pork pie because a lunatic in the mid 600's started calling a thing haram? Dhimmi Britain will be the first in Europe to fall.
No offense to our British friends here, but time and again on these pages, the Brits come across as the most servile, gonadless, dhimmified people in the world...(with the possible exception of the Swedes).
Bit rich coming from the nation that allows a mosque at Ground Zero.
Ah, but it isn't all Americans allowing the mosque, is it? It's just a few idiots.
Yet when one local council makes a stupid decision, that is 60 million plus Britons all tarred with the same brush.
Condemn the decision, but cut the schadenfreude.
That is totally unacceptable. I ma quite sure that very few of those schools have a Muslim majority, but the Islamic minority somehow manages to impose its rules on the majority.
Of interest in today's Daily Mail is this article, "The Talibanisation of British childhood by hardline parents." Muslim children not even being allowed to draw stick figures, being withdrawn from music lessons, going to madrassas after school, some schools having madrassas on campus.
I wrote to Ed Balls when he was Education Minister telling him about a school where Muslim girls were being bullied for looking 'too Christian.' I didn't get a reply although the other details I gave about the school were much more worrying. No one wants to upset Muslims!
"Good news."
Yeah, for an Islamic Barbarian, like you.
islamic Vampire ...
Enjoy your eternal stay swimming in the lake of fire with your prophet from hell:
http://foongsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/hell-lake-of-fire.jpg
The lake of fire is for the devil and his angels, which muhammad and his followers certainly are; and muhammad is the one on the left-hand side of the picture wielding a knife ...
Ham sandwiches for everyone!
I wonder if they will slaughter the goats and sheep right in the cafeteria!
God does not love creatures as creatures, God loves creatures as God'..
duh - you fell into it this time.. they don't give a rats 'hinten' when the word 'God' is used - they believe Alla is greater than the God.
The Mohamedians are a bunch of real arrogant SOBs.
"The Mohammedans are a bunch of real arrogant SOBs."
No sh*t! And they haven't invented anything or contributed to the world in any meaningful way. Incredible.
But anti-Semitic British government authorities would never provide kosher food for Jewish students, would they? And all kosher food is, by definition, also hallal.
A lowest common denominator of acceptable food would allow everybody to eat, but apparently Muslims must be elevated above all.
"...but apparently Muslims must be elevated above all."
Oh, they're the "superior peoples'" (Warlord Mo) ! Right, just like the Fascists and the Nazis.
Suggestions that halal or kosher slaughter are "cruel" are confusing the issue. Kosher slaughter is by design intended as a means to *reduce* the pain and suffering the animal experiences. And we can disagree on the matter.
What is at stake here is an imposition of Islamic cultural practice on those who don't subscribe, don't want to subsidize and give privilege to Islamic businesses, and are being denied their own choice in the matter.
It boggles my mind as to why they had to go halal for all, as opposed to a menu with some selections for one group and some for another. I hope this is challenged in the courts.
faye, since i live in canada, there is little i can do about the(pardon me), pathtic state of affairs of my southern neighbour. i have almost finished reading the book that robert spencer co-wrote with pamella geller 'the post american presidency'....this has to be one of the scariest documentation of the state of affairs since the islamist president came to the white house...it is a MUST READ.
i do feel at home on this site but i believe we are all (ok there's the islamic vampire exception)kindred spirits who unfortunately, are preaching to the choir. you know it, i know it and so do the rest of those that post here. unfortunately, i think that we are just venting (or as my people would say 'just kvetching'..:))like you, i am willing to fight with everything in me against this horror. look for crying out loud what is happening in eurabia... when a brave honest person named geert wilders is presenting FACTS, he is being silenced by the islamists and the criminal dhimmi media (what a bunch of idiots!). all put together it is a little dissheartening to see the enemy scoring points left right and center when everything in you is just screaming THIS MUST STOP!!!
hal-al only? How absurd and wrong. Why not simply offer the kiddies a choice? That way muslims can eat what they want, and non-muslims can eat what they want. I personally love shredded BBQ pork burgers, yum! And ham sandwiches are delicious, too.
Time for parents to start packing BLTs in the lunch boxes.
Winston Churchill, who went to Harrow School, and who had Islam figured out, must be rolling over in his grave.
The schools are also going to discontinuing serving beef products out of respect to Hindu students.
Right?
CornHolio,
That's not what they really want. Mohammed's M.O. was never a Mongol-like slash and burn philosophy. There's no future in that. No, what these English Muslims really dream of (as well as their Palestinian brothers) is not the "destruction" of Western societies. That gets them nothing but ruins. The idea is to take over and institute a dhimmi class system.
You are more advanced in your thinking than I!
You sir are correct!
I think I covered that...
It's an interesting and ironic corollary that one of the first things the Nazis attacked in Germany was shechitah, or kosher slaughter, which they banned, claiming it was "inhumane" to animals. Ironic, nazis complaining about something being inhumane.
Anyway, I have witnessed kosher as well as un-kosher slaughter, and I can attest to the fact that, in comparison, there is nothing wrong with shechitah (kosher slaughter). The animal is out pretty fast.
In conclusion, you will never find a Jew who forces non-Jews to observe kashrut, and that is the discussion point here, not the value of shechitah versus conventional slaughtering methods.
"Parents have expressed fury at plans to serve pupils halal-only menus for school dinners."
please redirect that fury towards the awful immigration policies of the country...
1 in 3 food products in American grocery stores is certified kosher. In some school districts with significant Jewish populations (Boca Raton, for example) the school meals are kosher as well.
Care to point out what's so different? For Americans to get up in arms over a religious minority influencing food decisions is a hoot. Seriously, your whole agribusiness has devoted itself to catering to 2% of the population for decades now. Since when is this kind of thing a new development? Has America succumbed to Jewish influence? Of course not, only a ridiculous conspiracy nutter would argue for that. It has had no discernible negative impact on your food supply and only a tiny impact on your pocket books.
Creeping shari'a? Stealth jihad? More like pervasive halakha. It's not a big deal. Never has been, never will be.
CornHolio wrote:
That's not what they really want. Mohammed's M.O. was never a Mongol-like slash and burn philosophy. There's no future in that. No, what these English Muslims really dream of (as well as their Palestinian brothers) is not the "destruction" of Western societies. That gets them nothing but ruins. The idea is to take over and institute a dhimmi class system.
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You are quite correct, CornHolio (love your Mike Judge reference username, by the way).
But Muslims simply cannot heime the desire to make Dar-al-Islam "pure"—as well as ingrained abuse and cruelty toward the hated Infidel—eventually erodes the "benefits" of this exploitation.
At first, some Kaffirs are killed or flee, but the rest reluctantly struggle to function under dhimmitude. After enough time, though, most Infidels get out if they can, are murdered by especially zealous Muslims, convert to Islam themselves—being unable to stand the humiliation, or are so crushed by oppression that they become less and less productive.
We have seen this over and over again throughout Muslim history. Afghanistan was at one time full of Hindus, Buddhists, and those influenced by Hellenic culture. All that is gone now.
Pakistan, as originally part of northern India, benefited from the presence of Hindus, Christians, and British law. It is easy to see how far it has now fallen behind neighboring India in almost every way—technologically, economically, in terms of the rule of law.
Indonesia and Malaysia are largely run on a day-to-day basis by Chinese and Christians—but creeping Shari'ah is constricting their freedoms more and more all the time.
North Africa benefited for centuries by the presence of large numbers of Christians and Jews. The Jews were driven out—all but a small remnant—after the founding of Israel in 1948. The Christian community is more and more eroded. Only Egypt has a significant population of Christians—the Copts—but they are coming under increasing attack.
The same is true of the Levant, where for long periods Lebanon was by far the most civilized nation in the region (save for Israel). Now, after the intrusion of "Palestinian" Muslims in the early 1970s, and the "civil war", the Christian population is fast shrinking, while Hizb'allah is growing in power and influence. When was the last time anyone referred to Beirut as "The Paris of the Middle East" in anything more than an ironic manner?
The same is true of Christians in the "Palestinian territories". The very birthplace of Christianity is almost free of Christians.
Yemen and Somalia are among the most "Islamic" of nations—with virtually no non-Muslims at all (the tiny remnant of whipped Jews in Yemen will likely die out in a generation or two).
And what are these "Islamic paradises" like? They are stagnant, poverty-stricken cesspools, wracked by constant violence. One of the few sources of revenue in basket-case Somalia is booty and ransom from pirated (mostly Infidel) ships.
There are lots more examples.
Everywhere in the world that you have Muslim controlled or Muslim majority nations, they are poorer and more backward than their neighbors—no matter their culture, ethnic makeup, or even political system.
So—what would happen in the case—God forbid!—of a full Muslim takeover of Britain? I think the lessons of history are all too clear—many Brits would flee to the continent, to Australia and New Zealand, Canada, and the United States.
The rest would soldier on for their Muslim overlords under constantly worsening conditions—or just give up and convert to the same vicious creed that had enslaved them.
Eventually civilized Britain would become just another hopeless backwater, and Muslims would start eying Canada, and the US, and whatever parts of Latin America were still functioning for their next conquest.
That's why we have to nip this sort of thing in the bud. We now all too well where it goes from here.
Why can't you people stay in your own countries and stop forcing your benighted culture upon us?
Your own countries aren't good enough for you? Why do you leave them in droves?
gerbil! if it would have involved any other group trying to impose their dietary laws on the host country, let's say budhists would like to see no meat whatsoever in the school cafeteria....so they will not be offended.... your point would be correct. however, what's at stake here is NOT a measly dietary issue. it is allowing a trojan horse in your midst. this is stealth jihad and it looks like you are buying it. don't you see how EVERYBODY is being pushed to accomodate this religion of piss, while no sign of tolerance whatsoever is coming from this bloodthirsty 7th century abomination. on the contrary! they move on to demand the next item on their agenda
Islamic (manure) Empire, no this not good news. Good news is coming from NW Porkistan where monsoon floods have taken out more than a thousand real or potential jihadis. muslims always label disasters in non-muslim countries as false allah's wrath.
So, how come the false allah is punishing the moronic "faithfuls"? Just goes to show there is no allah. Child molester mo made the biggest fool out of you morons.
Would that be the same "Gerbil tea" that frequents Huff PO and is AGAINST the Zionists, Jews & Israel and FOR anything islamic?
Yes - the repellent G tea is a Muzlim.
Why don't you pose that question to Elena Kagan.
She is now sitting in the highest court in the US and she is in favor of sharia law.
It's coming our way, folks, and the President will try to make it happen before he is ousted from government.
And relation to Charles Martel?
My thoughts are likewise.
I would even go so far as to pack my kids own lunches and feature bacon, bacon and tomato sandwiches, pork sandwiches, spare-ribs, sweet and sour pork balls, pork fingers, pork burgers, pork chops, pork weiners, pork fried rice, pork sausages, and I'd accent the garlic (Mohammad didn't like garlic or oninons -like vampires).
Have I made anyone hungry?
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Courreges W...We certainly seem to be attracting a lot of islamic trolls these days. I wonder if that's a good sign?
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A predatory death cult, among other things.
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gravenimage
Hello old friend, hope all's well with you and yours.
That's an excellent piece of analysis, as always with your writing I hear the sound of nails hit squarely on the head. However, I'd like to expand on the points you make by saying to everyone here that if Britain falls to Islam, the issue will become far more serious than the theft of our wealth and resources and the enslavement of our people. Many of our colleagues on this thread have expressed their dark musings on the (very real) possibilty of a Muslim takeover in Britain. Some have sneered at our new-found cowardice while others have laughed at us, and dismissed us as fools and yes, maybe we deserve some of that.
But there is something I beg you all to take seriously, a single deadly factor the rest of the free world cannot ignore. I've spoken about this before and I'll it say again, and again, as often as I can.
If the UK becomes subsumed into the Ummah by stealth jihad, without open conflict and a state of civil war, then the nature of our defeat will mean that the complete material wealth and the entire resources of this nation will pass smoothly into Muslim hands, including our full nuclear arsenal, with its long-range targeting and intercontinental delivery systems, intact and fully functioning. We are a small power compared to the USA but rest assured, we have enough nukes to terminate the world. You would wake up to find a knife at your throat. Should this happen it would be better our American allies attack us, destroy us, wipe us off the face of the Earth. Better that the story of our island race should come to an end than that our weapons be used to threaten our friends.
So what do we do and where do we go from here? All I can say is that not all the Brits are asleep and that some of us are fighting on every level of our society to avert this terrible destiny.
Hard Rain
you've read G K Chesterton - 'The Ballad of the White Horse'? If you haven't, do.
And here is part of another poem for you: part of 'The Tomb of Lieut. John Learmonth, A. I. F.", by Australian poet John Manifold, his elegy for a friend who was among the Aussie soldiers left behind on Crete during WWII, who joined the native Greeks as partisans, fighting the Nazis; most of them were killed.
"...His freedom left him nothing else to do/
but set his back against his family tree/
and fight the better for the fact he knew/
he was as good as dead, because the sea/
was closed, and the air dark, and the land lost - /
'They'll never capture me alive, said he'...
dda
I've just finished the Chesterton you mentioned, found the full text online. Beautiful, poignant and powerful poem, and a source of great strength. Where would I be without you polishing my armour?
What a very accurate foreshadowing of the stealth jihad threat when Chesterton has King Alfred thinking:
"I have a vision, and I know
The heathen shall return.
They shall not come with warships,
They shall not waste with brands,
But books be all their eating,
And ink be on their hands."
Well, Ethandun was a Saxon victory, which is encouraging, although somehow I doubt that Anjem Choudary, after his defeat, will be as amenable to baptism into the Catholic church as was Guthrum the Dane. Still miracles can, and do, happen. And when I need to ponder God's wrath on the heathens I like to read Lord Byron's "The Destruction of Sennacherib"
So, let's call up our horses, set our feet in the stirrups and return to the battle.
Cry God for Harry, England, and St George!
LOCAL INFORMATION
"This is nothing new to my knowledge, Tower Hamlets council been doing Halal meat in schools for at least 3 years or more."
He omits to mention that Tower Hamlets is for all practical purposes a Bangladeshi colony. A reliable source told me a white face there is an exception. They have put up the street names in Bengali and tried to rename the local Underground station “Bangalatown”. Recently a Muslim woman councillor was subject to abuse and hate mail not from white fascists but from fellow Muslims. Her crime was wearing jeans and sweaters instead of dressing like a proper muslima.
An American woman living there was shocked to see posters in the bus shelters urging residents to “Claim the Max”, that is to ensure they got the maximum welfare handouts as they could. I would guess they would also be in Bengali.
There have also been "reports" that fluency in Bengali is a job requirement for all middle and senior grade management.
It is also presented as a "Deprived area" which it certainly was 30 years ago when the Bangladeshi's started to move in. Maybe once. I was trying to trace a muslim from the area screwed me for £900 last year so I looked his address up on google earth. Expecting to find decayed late 19th century housing I was surprised to find it was mostly good modern housing which I am sure "our Asian citizens" did not pay for.
Check it out on google earth street level view yourselves folks.
The claim that Halal meat is acceptable to members of all religions is not true: Sikhs are forbidden to eat Halal meet. The Sikh community in England is not negligible - if the practice of using Halal meat spreads, this will soon become an issue.
"The Halal slaughter method (along with Shechita which is the name for pretty much the same method used by Jews) is not cruel at all. When the animal's throat is slit, it results in a massive drop in blood pressure causing pretty much instantaneous unconsciousness."
OK, mate, let us try it out on you, and then see what you think about it.
Courreges W, you are right, of course about Mohammedans and contribution to the world. It is well worth looking at how many Nobel Prizes Jewish people have won, hundreds, compared to how many have been won by Muslims, dozens. Mohammedans have regularly stolen ideas and presented them as their own: the zero in mathematics for example came from Hindu scholars, not from Muslims.
"Courreges W, you are right, of course about Mohammedans and their contribution to the world."
Thanks. Read Oriana Fallaci's "The Rage and the Pride" for a full list. And for a brilliant book about the damage Mohammedan immigration has done to Western Europe. Order it from amazon - you won't be sorry.
I don't think Muslims have won "dozens," it's in the single digits.
Cornelius, resentment is boiling into rage. The British people are waking up!
Read the comments in this Telegraph article: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-gilligan/7929660/Our-dangerous-dalliance-with-radical-Islam.html#dsq-content
Iftikhar said: "The Halal slaughter method (along with Shechita which is the name for pretty much the same method used by Jews) is not cruel at all. When the animal's throat is slit, it results in a massive drop in blood pressure causing pretty much instantaneous unconsciousness."
That is absolutely not true. There are YouTube videos (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXx_ocntl6o) of cows being slaughtered via Shechita. They do not become instantaneously unconscious. Instead they struggle for 20 or 30 seconds, trying to get to their feet on the blood slickened floors of the slaughter house. It is long slow death.
Similarly, the muslim snuff vidoeos (muslims beheading non-muslims) illustrate now slow death is by a knife to the throat. There is massive blood loss, but the victim continues to struggle for a long time before becoming unconscious.
Iftikhar, you can continue to rationalize away the cruelty that is systemic in islam, but you cannot change the truth.
So now all non-muslims have to conform to Islam even in a european country, a non-muslim country, a country not ruled by Isl shoulam. How insulting to other faiths that muslims in this land of the 'so called free' must adapt themselves to what shariah law dictates, in this instance Hallal meat for all in british state schools. If muslims don't like the way things are run in this country they have every opportunity to depart for what ever other country suits them best.
What is no wanted of them is to dictate their policy in this country which has given them a home, what is n ot wanted of them is to stop inflicting their religion on us.
We have given them freedom of their religion in the UK, they in turn should respect our values. Political correctness shouldn't stretch to christians now saying Seasons-greetings instead of 'A Merry Christmas so as not to offend muslims. I have never heard such a lot of garbage, why have certain munipalities government offices eg. expressly gone out of their way to be so genteel toward's islam, a great number of mosques in the UK go out of their way to curse both Christians and Jews in their sermons, they pray that their 'Allah will be merciful in turning this land into a shariah dominated land.
It's now about time for the wake call to be signalled and stop all this nonesense once and for all times.
Hard Rain wrote:
However, I'd like to expand on the points you make by saying to everyone here that if Britain falls to Islam, the issue will become far more serious than the theft of our wealth and resources and the enslavement of our people.
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Agreed, Hard Rain. I was speaking of the fall of England as the fall of any other Infidel country. But Britain is a special case. For one thing, as you note, she is a nuclear-armed nation, and as such, would represent an enormous threat to the non-Muslim world. Her standing military and other weaponry would make her a formidable threat, as well—assuming native Brits would allow themselves to be used as Muslim attack dogs.
In addition, Muslims hold a special hatred of certain Infidel nations. As much as they might wish to take over the Netherlands, or Sweden, or Switzerland, there is no doubt that they would consider Britain—along with such places as Israel and the United States—a special prize.
The other issue is the status of Britain as font of laws and culture for Anglophone nations—the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand—the shear symbolism of the fall of Britain would be agonizing for the West, and the whole of Dar-al-Harb.
I would never make light of this.
That's why fighting such signs of creeping Shari'ah as this in Harrow is so important.
I'm glad to see you hanging in there, Hard Rain. I'm well, and hope you are also.
If Muslim parents want their children to eat only 'Hallal'
food in state schools, they should then send their children to Islamic shools. If Jewish parens want their children to eat only Kosher prepared food in schools they send them to Jewish Schools, as they don't expect state schools to cater for Jewish pupils at the expense of Gentile pupils. The jewish community never inflicted their religion on others, they nevwer caused so much trouble as these muslims do in the UK. The Jewish citizens of the UK were never a burden on the rest of the community on Britain. If these Islamic trouble-makers are not happy with their situation in the UK they should depart to greener pastures all over the arab and islamic world, why have they caused so much trouble here, remember that not all muslims are terrorists, however all terrorists seem to be muslim. Many Muslims entered this country in the 1950s especially from Pakistan aswell as muslims from India, they were hard working people who on ly wanted the best for their families, however it would seem now that their grandchildren are of another generation that despises everything non-muslim, they have been indoctrinated by uneducated Mullahs who are full of hatred towards anything western, Their grandparents never had any chips on their shoulders, possibly because they were just content to be admitted into this country and work hard at aiming for a better life for their families. This new generation it seems are totally different, they have become more and more agressive in their actions against society, They have attacked Jewish congregants either going or returning from Synagogue service, Jewish school-Children have also been attacked by British Muslims. Muslim elders have stated that if the jews of the UK would only stop supporting Israel they would then be left alone, what an indictment, it's ok for muslims to support the arab and islamic world but Jews musn't support Israel, how dare they.
These muslims reside in the UK and not the arab or islamic world, whatever goes on in the Middle-East should not be allowed to be imported to the shores of England, if they are not prepared to curb their anger then they should be tried in a court of law, when found guilty given the highest prison sentence allowed in order to deter these high octane islamic individuals from threatening anyone who doesn't share their beliefs. Almost 40 years ago I informed the 'Home-office' to put a close surveillance on Mosques in the UK because of the terminology used by the Immams in their sermons, the phone on the other end was slammed down hard on me, I knew what I was talking about, they knew aswell but they never acted on my information possibly because many of those civil servants were arabists as they still are today. One day when it maybe a little to late they will awake from their deep slumber to the reality of what is now taking place in the whole of europe.