Ahmadinejad: Qur'an-burning a "Zionist plot" that will bring about Israel's annihilation

This will cause every antisemite in America to burn a koran in the hope of spurring the big A into action. He should be careful about what he wishes for.

Already there are announcements from around the country others who are planning to burn the Koran.

Reasoning and Islam don't seem to match. How utterly stupid does he have to be for that to make sense. And if he knows it's stupid how dumb is the public to believe him.

The religion of peace. Threatining blood shed for 1400 years

Why care what Ahmadinejad thinks? I hate how he's quoted constantly, as if whatever he says in some way represents how the majority of Muslims feel on a given issue. Baloney. Of course he's a wacko. But don't make the foolish assumption that every Muslim thinks like him.

What you're doing here is only strengthening a radical Muslim's voice, and simultaneously quashing the voices of moderate Muslims in this country and around the world.

Don't feed the fire.

'a violation of the teachings of all religions....'

but not a violation of your religion's teaching , asthmadunderhead
Your religion likes all those kinds of things , burning , violence , bombing etc. etc. etc.
You might fool some people with your nonsense but not me and an increasing number of people are waking up to you and your fellow muslims .

'quashing the voices of moderate Muslims in this country and around the world.'

Their voices seem pretty much quashed already .

I don't say there aren't any moderates but those that do think of themselves as moderate - you don't hear much from them .

I bet everytime that guy passes gas he says it is a Zionist conspiracy. WHAT A Dunderhead!!

"The Iranian president added that burning the Koran would be a violation of the teachings of all religions...."

What, because you said so? ...ahaha! Of course, all a muslim has to do is open their mouth, and suddenly they are speaking the TRUTH. Imanutjob is famous for this type of muslimspeak. This man wouldn't know the truth if it bit him in the b-hind.

And had not-my-prophet muhammad been executed years ago, like he SHOULD have been, for his evil and countless crimes, then we wouldn't be having these conversations, now would we? Yeah lets not forget who the real criminals are: muhammad & company. IMO, burning the quran is loooong overdue and mild in comparison to islam & company's heinous and centuries old crimes.

The longer this debate continues, the more inclined I am to say "Burn it already!" Muslims have a long history of murder, depredation, and mayhem directed against non-Muslims and Michelle Malkin has compiled a list of the most recent. Muslims have already burned American flags in anticipation of the Koran burning and rioting in Afghanistan has already killed one person. The constraints placed on others by Muslims' sensitivities are simply too much to bear and the U.S. government needs to get the message that Americans will stand up for our values. When I first learned of Rev. Jones plans, I disapproved greatly, but my opinion has changed.

The longer this debate continues, the more inclined I am to say "Burn it already!" Muslims have a long history of murder, depredation, and mayhem directed against non-Muslims and Michelle Malkin has compiled a list of the most recent. Muslims have already burned American flags in anticipation of the Koran burning and rioting in Afghanistan has already killed one person. The constraints placed on others by Muslims' sensitivities are simply too much to bear and the U.S. government needs to get the message that Americans will stand up for our values. When I first learned of Rev. Jones plans, I disapproved greatly, but my opinion has changed.

I listen to Prager, and he is really quite aware of the problem of Islam. He takes a moral/immoral stance regarding the Qur'an burning, which is a fine argument to have. But my objection is the government getting involved, appealing to the incitement factor as a mitigating reason. Poppycock. Here's what I wrote to him:

Dennis,

Yes, Pastor Jones is a jerk.
Yes, he shouldn't do this thing because it is rude and offends people.

But there is no way we can defend asking him to stop because Muslims might kill people.

The argument that we should ask him to stop because it incites violence is a position of moral weakness. It absolves the potential killers of their responsibilities.

Whether it does good or not is another question. Does smoking or poker do good? Not really, but it's no one's concern whether others do it or not. If the American Cancer Society decided to go around killer smokers or Christians decided en masse to go around killing abortion doctors, wouldn't that be wrong? Of course.

Does that mean people should not smoke for fear of being killed by the ACS? Or stop doing abortions for fear of snipers? Of course not.

Look what happened when people shoot abortion doctors. They get afraid to do abortions and quit. Their family members, afraid for their lives, beg them not to continue, or students of women's health do not do those into the field. So there's George Tiller, out there in Kansas, doing his awful deed, and along comes some killer and kills him.

Do you then say George Tiller brought it on himself? That it's his fault this guy killed him?

Of course not.

Now, I am against abortion, but I am moreso against violence for "offense" taken. I will work to legally change the law, but I will not allow doctors to cower in fear of violence.

Lastly, if you're still reading, thank you.

Jones, and most of us who participate in anti-jihad, are against Islam, not Muslims. Islam is an ugly and evil ideology. The fact that millions of Muslims can overcome it and live peacably and ignore most of that book and its supporting documents is a sad testament to its inherent "goodness." The fact that they help us fight violent radicals is great. Expecting that they might get mad and radicalize because some moron burns their book demeans them by expecting that they can't control themselves, and they're all just on the verge. Why would they be on the verge? Something in their book, maybe?

I repeat, though, Jones really is a kind of dense simpleton. He has not done his homework.

So what if he isn't doing good? That makes him immoral. But fearing a Muslim response is not acceptable to America. That is why Obama and Petreus got involved. And that isn't right. They should mind their own business and keep their opinions to just that, and show this kind of weakness.

Listen to you nearly every day!

What Ahmadinejad is not revealing is that he himself is a Mossad agent groomed by the fiendish Zionist plotters with the usual aim of discrediting Islam and bringing down the Iranian people. The "A mad Iranian jihad" or short "Ahmadinejad" plot, as it is codenamed, has been one of the most effective and well hidden Zionist plots, and it is not done yet. One can only hope that he does not overdo it and so reveal his true identity.

The clownish Iranian president is sounding more like Julius Streicher's "Der Stürmer" for each hysterical outburst.

The RoP is threatening total war if Korans are burnt.

Many would welcome that, for that would give us the opportunity to rid ourselves of the present leadership, and get one which knows how to make war.

For a start a Patton instead of Petraeus.

Raven -

I strongly suspect that others within the Iranian regime are involved. It seems to me that Khamenei is clearly a Zionist plant, probably bionic, made to look like the true article (Khomenei - and even he spent a lot of time in Paris, a notorious centre of Zionist influence). Rafsanjani has always looked very Jewish to me as well.

We can only hope that the Revolutionary Guards root out all these top level Zionist agents, using the usual interrogation methods...

IN THE EARLIEST MUSLIM BIOGRAPHY OF MUHAMMAD, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic) WE LEARN HOW IN KHAYBAR MUHAMMAD ORDERED THE TORTURE AND BEHEADING OF A MAN IN ORDER TO GET HOLD OF A TREASURE, AND HOW THAT NIGHT MUHAMMAD TOOK INTO HIS PRIVATE TENT FOR CONSUMMATION OF "MARRIAGE" THE TORTURED MAN'S WIFE, WHOSE FATHER AND OTHER MALE RELATIVES MUHAMMAD HAD JUST KILLED:

Kinana b. al-Rabi', who had the custody of the treasure of the B. al-Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (Tabari says "was brought") to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle [Muhammad] said to Kinana, 'Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?' he said Yes. The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle [Muhammad] gave orders to al-Zubayr b. al-'Awwam, 'Torture him until you extract what he has,' so he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head in revenge for his brother Mahmud. [-- page 515 (763-764 in the Arabic)]

...The apostle took captives...among whom was Safiya d. Huyayy b. Akhtab who had been the wife of Kinana b. al-Rabi’ b. Abu’l-Huqayq, and two cousins of hers. The apostle chose Safiya for himself. [-- page 511 (758 in the Arabic)]

When the apostle married Safiya in Khaybar or on the way, she having been beautified and combed, and got in a fit state for the apostle by Umm Sulaym d. Milhan mother of Anas b. Malik, the apostle passed the night with her in a tent of his. Abu Ayyub, Khalid b. Zayd brother of B. al-Najjar passed the night girt with his sword, guarding the apostle and going round the tent until in the morning the apostle saw him and asked him what he meant by his action. He replied, ‘I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people, and till recently she was in unbelief, so I was afraid for you on her account.’ They allege that the apostle said ‘O God, preserve Abu Ayyub as he spent the night preserving me.’ [-- page 516-517 (766 in the Arabic)]

THE ABOVE REPORT OF MUHAMMAD'S "MARRIAGE" TO SAFIYA IS EXTENDED BELOW IN A HADITH FROM THE MOST CANONICAL HADITH COLLECTION, SAHIH BUKHARI:

IS THIS MARRIAGE? OR RAPE?
Bukhari – Volume 1, Book 8, Number 367

Narrated ‘Abdul ‘Aziz:

Anas said, ‘When Allah’s Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, ‘Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.’ He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, ‘Muhammad (has come).’ (Some of our companions added, “With his army.”) We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, ‘O Allah’s Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.’ The Prophet said, ‘Go and take any slave girl.’ He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, ‘O Allah’s Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.’ So the Prophet said, ‘Bring him along with her.’ So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, ‘Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.’ Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her.”

Thabit asked Anas, “O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?” He said, “Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her.” Anas added, “While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet . So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, ‘Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.’ He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-SawTq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walrma (the marriage banquet) of Allah’s Apostle .”

I don't like Islam. I actually also don't like Christianity either. Or Judaism. Basically all religions suck and are the cause of most of the world's problems.

I feel like burning a bible.

yeah, i am a buddhist, this iranian idiot really is getting madder by the minute. he definitly does not speak for my religion, we as buddhist ,can see straight through this islam nonsense. this book definitly deserves to be burned , best would be all existing copies ,so humankind would have one curse less. but since this won´t happen just yet,so meanwhile, i think it would be better to publicly read the koran , in the unfiltered straight version (no taquia), in all western radio and tv stations for a whole day. through that maybe more people would realize what a dangerous book this is.

Eleanor still doesn't get it. The muslims who do not think like Ahmadhimmijerker are not important because the mooslimps who do think like Ahmadhimmijerker are running the show, i.e., the Jihad, and while a tiny percentage of the ones who do not think like Ahmadhimmijerker are making a brave and gallant effort to reform what can only be torn down, carted away, and built over, most of them are hiding behind the couch waiting to find out which side winds.

Our only concern at this time should be with the Muslims supporting the Jihad, with a nod to the few sincere "reformists". The rest have had 9 years to grow spines and step forward in defense of the Constitution of the country whose teat they are sucking at, and they haven't done it.

CNN has a sappy story up that quite explicitly accuses those of us who will be protesting tomorrow of being bigots and haters. It's a heartwarming widdle tale about two 20-something Pakistani Muslims taking a Ramadan taqiyya road trip across the US and gushing about how "tolerant" we really are. They burbled happily about all the mosques they saw out there in the heartland. Swell. We have only their word that they weren't scoping out flying schools in out-of-the-way locations instead. They also warned, with a smile of course, that Americans have to accept that Muslims are here to stay.

All I want to know from them is, if their "brothers in Allah" bring the Jihad to America in full force, will they pick up weapons and stand with us. Because if they do not, then they'll be "here to stay" all right, but it will be in the nearest prisoner-of-war camp.

We already knew CNN are traitors and I urge anyone at the rally tomorrow who encounters one of their shills to give them an earful they won't forget but will probably not be able to put on the air.

Hi did anyone see Robert Spencer on sky news in the uk today? it must be the first time hes been on the news here, ive always hoped to see this and i hope we see a lot more of him. Ive looked on skys website all day and youtube but i cant find the video.

"The Iranian president added that burning the Koran would be a violation of the teachings of all religions...."

What does he care about the teachings of all religions?

He has always denounced us infidels.

Islam doesn't recognize the legitimacy of any religion except itself.

Come to think of it, maybe we should start a religion that is centered on burning the Koran.

The best thing, we could get it tax exempt.

We could worship across the street from Cordoba House.

Any suggestions for names?

Several days ago an Iranian woman, who converted to Christianity said it won't be long before Ahmadinejad would publicly blame the Jews. I thought she was joking.

Ahmadinejad: Qur'an-burning a "Zionist plot" that will bring about Israel's annihilation
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Does it matter that yahoo pastor Terry Jones is himself an anti-Semite? No, I didn't think so:

"Quran Burning Pastor: Judaism, Other Religions 'Of The Devil'"

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20015853-10391695.html

Someone should scratch around into Dinnerjacket's past. Bet you anything he's a Mossad agent infiltrated into Iran just to help make Islam look bad. And the plan has succeeded brilliantly. (YADPOTJ - Yet Another Dastardly Plot Of The Jooooos.)

Esther,

The rule here is you have to nominate your "moderate Muslim". You can't just hypothesise his/her existence. We were told Rauf was "moderate". Then we found out about those books he was having published abroad, his refusal to condemn Hamas, his support for Shariah law and his duplicitous statements about where the money for the Mosque was coming from.

As for Ahmadinejad. He's probably strongly supported by at least 20-30% of the Iranian population I would judge... That's about 14-21million people. Are you saying no one supports him?

Stop trying to make excuses for him. Would you say this stuff if an American President came out with similarly violent and anti-semitic comments?

Hi Miriam,

That Ahmanutjobindahead would do that is a given, and your feelings were proven correct. Right now I'm anxiously awaiting a reply from lilredbird as to what I don't "get" after he/she said I "still don't get it", and then expounded at some length on something quite apart from the simple point I was making to the poster who felt the need to come on and say he/she felt like burning a Bible.

Waiting,

~E

Hmmm...according to Sunnis, Shi'its are a plot created by the Jews...so I can't keep score anymore!

http://whyyouexist.blogspot.com

On the one hand Imanutjob wants to blame the Zionists - yet on the other he refuses to recognize their very existence. Hmm.

As ugly as things are getting between muslims and non-muslims, I'm glad it's happening. I was thinking it'd only be a small community of us anti-Islamists but due to recent events it's put Islam on center stage.

To think a pastor from a small church can cause a global stir speaks volumes about Islam. Muslims regularly burn Bibles but even worse, persecute, rape and kill Christians (and other non-muslims) and no one bats an eye.

Perhaps the media will be paying a bit more attention than it was before because this 'problem' of Islam is not going to go away, it's just going to get worse and worse till something is done.

The good news is that we'll soon have Republicans in power again, the left has created a bad name for itself over the past couple of years. While we're stuck with Obooba for 2 more years, there's still a chance he can be impeached for the crap that he's pulled so far.

The timing couldn't be better, because as the tension between Islam and the West rises to a feverish pitch, we'll need right-wing governments in the West to deal with the coming third world war.

Stay strong people, keep fighting, keep standing up for freedom/America and exposing Islam for the evil death cult that it is. Once our side gains power, we'll be calling the shots and dealing with Islam how we should've after 9/11.

Eastview

Someone should scratch around into Dinnerjacket's past. Bet you anything he's a Mossad agent infiltrated into Iran just to help make Islam look bad. And the plan has succeeded brilliantly. (YADPOTJ - Yet Another Dastardly Plot Of The Jooooos.)

He was, at some time, executioner at Evin prison. That's why the mullah's picked him. He is an experienced killer. The right qualification to become the President of an Islamic state.

Now all we need to do is to convince people that mohammed, self professed decendant of Ishmeal, is therefore by his own admission nothing more than a low don jew sent to mislead the arab peoples... Do that and we can watch Islam eat itself.

Burn a Koran and there will be total war?

What else is new? Muhammad declared war against the world 1400 years ago.

This war is perpetual unless we're all subjugated, pay the jiziya or surrender one way or another to Islam.

The horrific thing is that THEY tell us that basically every day, and they act on it.

But instead of pulling the rug out from under them America elected a Muslim POTUS 7 years after 9/11.

They're winning!

IN CORE ISLAMIC TEXTS, MUHAMMAD SAYS THE EARTH BELONGS TO MUHAMMAD AND ALLAH. MUHAMMAD WARNS THE JEWS TO ACCEPT ISLAM IF THEY WISH TO BE SAFE:

In Sahih Muslim, a canonical hadith collection:

Book 019, Number 4363:

It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira who said: We were (sitting) in the mosque when the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) came to us and said: (Let us) go to the Jews. We went out with him until we came to them. The Messenger of Allah [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) stood up and called out to them (saying):

O ye assembly of Jews, accept Islam (and) you will be safe.

They said: Abu'l-Qasim, you have communicated (God's Message to us). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said:

I want this (i. e. you should admit that God's Message has been communicated to you), accept Islam and you would be safe.

They said: Abu'l-Qisim, you have communicated (Allah's Message). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I want this... - He said to them (the same words) the third time (and on getting the same reply) he [Muhammad] added:

You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I wish that I should expel you from this land. Those of you who have any property with them should sell it, otherwise they should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle (and they may have to go away leaving everything behind).

See: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/019.smt.html#019.4363

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From page 464 (690 in the Arabic) of THE EARLIEST MUSLIM BIOGRAPHY OF MUHAMMAD, MUHAMMAD PRESIDES OVER THE BEHEADING OF 600 TO 900 JEWS:

Then [the Banu Qurayza tribe] surrendered, and the apostle [Muhammad] confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, 'Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!' This went on until the apostle made an end of them.

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From page 369 (554 in the Arabic) of THE EARLIEST MUSLIM BIOGRAPHY OF MUHAMMAD, MUHAMMAD SAYS "KILL ANY JEW WHO FALLS INTO YOUR POWER":

It's a "beautiful" story of two brothers, Muhayyissa and Huwayyisa:

"The apostle [Muhammad] said, ‘Kill any Jew that falls into your power.’ Thereupon Muhayyisa bin Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed [the Jewish merchant] Huwayyisa began to beat [his brother Muhayyisa], saying, 'You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?' Muhayyisa answered, 'Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.'...[Huwayyisa] replied, 'By God, if Muhammad had ordered you to kill me would you have killed me?' [Muhayissa] said, 'Yes, by God, had he ordered me to cut off your head I would have done so.' [Huwayyisa] exclaimed, "By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvellous!' and [Huwayyisa] became a Muslim."

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MUHAMMAD SAYS THAT ONE DAY THE VERY TREES AND STONES WILL TELL MUSLIMS TO KILL JEWS
He says it both in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, Islam's two most canonical hadith collections:

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle [Muhammad] said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

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ACCORDING TO CORE ISLAMIC TEXTS, MUHAMMAD WAS IN HIS FIFTIES WHEN HE CONSUMMATED HIS MARRIAGE TO THE NINE-YEAR OLD AISHA. BUT BECAUSE ISLAM FOLLOWS A LUNAR CALENDAR, SHE MAY HAVE BEEN WHAT WE TODAY MEAN BY AN EIGHT-YEAR OLD.

The Islamic year is only 355 days. Multiplied by 9, we get a number of days (3195) that tells us that Aisha was what we today in the West mean by a child 8 years and 9 months old when Muhammad consummated the marriage. That assumes that he did so close to the time of her 9th Islamic birthday. The upshot is that she may well have been what we mean by an eight year old.

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CANONICAL HADITH SAY MUHAMMAD (WHO WAS IN HIS FIFTIES) CONSUMMATED HIS MARRIAGE TO AISHA WHEN SHE WAS NINE (LUNAR) YEARS OLD.

These are from Sahih Bukhari, the most canonical hadith collection:
1. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:

Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

2. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65:

Narrated 'Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)."

3. Sahih, Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88:

Narrated 'Ursa:

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

4. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236:

Narrated Hisham's father:

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.
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ACCORDING TO CORE ISLAMIC TEXTS QUOTED ABOVE, AISHA WAS NINE WHEN MUHAMMAD, IN HIS FIFTIES, CONSUMMATED HIS MARRIAGE WITH HER.

BUT HAD SHE REACHED PUBERTY? NO, SHE HAD NOT, ACCORDING TO CORE ISLAMIC TEXTS.

From a canonical hadith collection, Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

In the next hadith, we learn that playing with dolls is only permitted for prepubescent children.

According the most canonical hadith collection,Sahih Bukhari,
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151:

Narrated 'Aisha:

I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)

(The parenthetical statement is not mine -- it's in University of Southern California's Sahih Bukhari online.)

And then of course there is the increasingly infamous Qur'an verse that specifies a waiting period for prepubescent and post-menopausal females to remarry after being divorced. There is no waiting period if the marriage was not consummated. Thus the Qur'an assumes consummation with prepubescent girls. The purpose of the waiting period (3 months), is so that if the female should become pregnant, it will be whether the father is the old husband or the new one.

Qur'an Chapter 65, Verse 4:
And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.

Should read: "...if the female should become pregnant, it will be known whether the father is the old husband or the new husband."

I'm going to burn a copy of "Dude, Where's My Country".

Just because it really sucks.

Islam itself is a Zionist plot - it's largely based on the Bible, including the Mosaic law in the Old Testament.

It's only a matter of time before they catch on...

Esther -

Yep, you sound like you are in the Mo Gang - threatening terrorist attacks unless we surrender up our free speech rights.

DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE OF PREPUBESCENT GIRLS IN KORAN 65:4

Here is the interpretation of Qur'an 65:4 from Ibn Abbas, who was one of the companions of Muhammad. Ibn Abbas affirms that Qur'an 65.4 refers to the waiting period for prepubescent girls to remarry after divorce. (The waiting period of three months between divorce and remarriage is so that if the divorced wife evinces pregnancy, one knows if the baby is from the old husband or the new husband):

Ibn Abbas on Qur'an 65:4
(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months. Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.

Some eight hundred years later appeared the Tafsir al-Jalalayn, one of the most widely used interpretations of the Qur'an. Tafsir al-Jalalayn also tells us that Qur'an 65:4 speaks of waiting period for divorce of prepubescent girls:

And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.,

65:4, according to Wahidi, another famous tafsir:

(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate and the woman who has not menstruated yet? And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us> Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun> Makki ibn ‘Abdan> Abu’l-Azhar> Asbat ibn Muhammad> Mutarrif> Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.

ibn Kathir's famous Qur'an tafsir says of 65:4
...There is a third type of divorce, which is neither a Sunnah nor an innovation where one divorces a young wife who has not begun to have menses...

The tafsirs agree that Qur'an 65:4 considers the divorce and remarriage of prepubescent girls. And many Muslim translations of 65:4 make abolutely clear that this is the meaning. (See for example these translations: Al-Muntakahb, Abdel Haleem, Abdul Majid Daryabadi, Aisha Bewley, Ali Quli Qara'i, Muhammad Mahmoud Ghali, Muhammad Taqi Usmani.)

Well I wanted to make a serious comment but I was in tears laughing at the numerous names given to Ahmadidodo here in the thread by various posters. Despite the ugliness we as humanity face, sometimes we need a hearty laugh to keep sane :)

In response to Ahmadinejad,though I don't agree with the burning of the Koran,the past and the present times proved that Muslims are the worst violation of all religion.They raped,killed,burnt Churches and Bibles in Nigeria,Pakistan,Indonesia and Egypt.All this in the name of Allah.

It is long past that time the MoSlums should think very hard about their religion. Either they bring it to some sort of conformity or live with the consequences.

Hypothetically speaking - if the Florida paster burnt the covers of a copy of the Quran, MoSlums will go ballistic all around the World. (remember the cartoon!) The so called "moderates (MIRAGE in my view)" will support their action passively. Some of them may tip, most likely to extremism. They are a whole bunch of nutjobs - seriously psychologically demented from the day one they started to listen to Imams - their neuron-network builders.

I think we should all procure copies of the koran and burn them on video then post it to Youtube.

There would be tens of thousands of posts in no time at all.

I'm all out of korans at the moment or mine would be the first posted.

islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.

@BiffHenderson, I'd made a mental note to volunteer a suggestion re Hershl's idea, then, as one does, got deeply pensive with the comment thread. . .and finally bumped into your's which both had me guffawing with laughter and reminded me of the mental note I'd made.
Mine wasn't funny as your's are, and though it barely has a marketable 'ring' to it, it's origin has provenance to say the least. . .''GET THEE HENCE''

Here is a link to some Iran youth burning Qu’rans in protest of their religiously oppressive government.

http://www.fireonquran.com/

"We hate no one. Some of us in fact are Muslims, some of us are not, but all of us unifiedly believe that the rule of Islam, the laws of Quran and Sharia over people turned our country, Iran, to a slaughterhouse of innocent men and women. Turned it to the Islamic Iran which is the record holder for executions and amputations. When we started this we knew we put our lives on the line to carry out this message which is punishable by death but someone had to step up."

Wow…..they got some guts. I hope the Tehrani cops don’t find them.

We should burn a koran everytime the moozies launch an attack anywhere in this world. It will be better if the people who are victims do this themselves. Then maybe the moozies will understand the tit for tat is really happening. You attack me,i burn the koran. Simple language so much so that even the most brain dead moozie will understand.

There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim. Mao defined modern terrorism as the water and the fish. The terrorists are the fish and their communities provide the water that they survive in. The west needs to drain the water.

Here is a link to some Iran youth burning Qu’rans in protest of their religiously oppressive government.

http://www.fireonquran.com/

"We hate no one. Some of us in fact are Muslims, some of us are not, but all of us unifiedly believe that the rule of Islam, the laws of Quran and Sharia over people turned our country, Iran, to a slaughterhouse of innocent men and women. Turned it to the Islamic Iran which is the record holder for executions and amputations. When we started this we knew we put our lives on the line to carry out this message which is punishable by death but someone had to step up."

Wow…..they got some guts. I hope the Tehrani cops don’t find them.

Where they start burning books....
they will end up burning humans !!!

The Pastor did make a good point. He merely threatens to burn Qurans and the Muslim and dhimmi world gets hysterical and condemns him, and the world is told that any Muslim retaliation would be justified. A giant mosque is being built over the ruins of 9/11 with Saudi jihad money and those American citizens who oppose it are ridiculed and ignored and told to be "tolerant" of the desecration. It is the unofficial global enforcement of Sharia law, which claims worldwide jurisdiction. Can anyone foresee the next step?

I say, nuke the ****** ******* and get it over with. No more American soldiers killed. Simple solution and president Harry S. Truman knew it.