And so it begins: 11 injured in Afghanistan in protests against Qur'an-burning

They hurt themselves trying to burn and then stomp on the burning flags.

I used to work in the schools and I can say this will only get worse as time goes on.

Too many parents teach thier children that they can do whatever they want. And if they do something bad? Why, it's always someone else's fault.

Personal responsibility is dead long live the age of Entitlement !

On the "Today Show" this morning Meredith Vieira basically accused Pastor Jones of being responsible for the murder in Afghanistan.

But Jones held his ground and replied that it's the Muslims who are responsible and that this shows how dangerous and violent Islam is. And, he pointed out how Christians do not engage in such behavior.

He did good, he really did! And he stuck to his guns about the imam "lying!"

Pastor Jones has got a spine. Can you imagine everything he's dealing with?

Vieira badgered him like a member of the gestapo. I've never seen her like that before - usually she's cool as a cucumber, no matter what the subject matter. She even brought out the "crazy card" in an effort to further discredit Jones.

It's incredible to me how an educated person, Vieira, can be such an imbecile.

This Dove Church pastor was played by the msm as much as he was played by the lying imams. The main stream media (msm) uniformly jumped on the koran burning story in an attempt to link to and discredit the swelling numbers of freedom loving patriots joining the 9/11 Ground Zero Mosque Protest.

After weeks of unsuccessfully trying to weaken opposition to the GZ mosque by discrediting it as a movement full of racists and islamophobes, the msm found the Dove Church and pounced.

Intentionally alerting the globe to this event held by a - let's use some crafty msm terminology here - 'tiny minority of extremists', and far too stupid to realize that their intentional exposure of this 'tiny minority' would put our soldiers lives in jeopardy - soldiers lives are not a concern for the msm, but plays hard against opponents to the GZ mosque, to their 'shock and awe' the maladroit msm put every western journalist, student, businessman, as well as themselves and any family and colleagues residing abroad directly in the crosshairs of Islamic justice and submission.

Didn't quite see it coming, did they? Thinking they would expose this 'tiny minority' of what the msm characterizes as 'racist islamophobes', they instead exposed and instigated a global hornets nest of infidelophobes ready to spill blood.

The world is now focused again on the inherent violence of a creed practiced by nearly a quarter of this globe's population, all unified on a moments notice for the call for violent jihad to address a perceived insult inflicted by an insignificant congregation practicing their first amendment right in a country far removed from over 90% of the aggrieved.
Lan Astaslem.

'Living in fear of the Religion of Peace'...The Movie...Now playing...

Chapter 15... the MSM...Or...Those wacky Christians, there they go again...

Media hype created Jones, and now media hype seeks to destroy him...It is media hype that has Mahoundians jumping up and down...Of course it does not take much provocation for Mahoundians to levitate...No one ever heard of Jones, now thanks to media hype everyone has heard of him, and those with ill intent, know where he is...Media hype has manufactured targets for jihadist's in Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere...Media hype has also made targets of patriots like Geller and Spencer...
Media hype is one evil dude...

Even the threat of burning a Koran gets these inbred retards in a murderous rage and frothing at the mouth. Islam truly is the Rabies of Religions, and the infectious carriers of this mind-virus should be quarantined away from the civilized world. http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/islam-murder-meme-and-rabies-of.html

HEY! Good Morning all!

ISLAM SHOWS ITS TAIL!!!! OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

Isn't that province of Badakhshan where the Christian
medical missionaries were murdered recently???

The bashers of Pastor Jones are just hoping the islamic aligator will not eat them!!

And by the way, he was lied to by a muslim and a "cleric" AT THAT. WHY ARE WE NOT SURPRISED HERE ON JIHAD WATCH???

Just curious, what kind of actions have occurred when bibles,Torahs,churches,and synagogues are desecrated by Muslims?

Yes I know Christians and Jews are held to a higher standard, they show tolerance when Muslims do not.

But time and time again Christians and Jews are asked to stand down to Muslims in an effort to gain peace---what peace? Trying to pacify and appease Muslims is like trying to make friends with a rattle snake, it can't be done because their religion (totalitarian ideology) does not allow Muslims to be friends with non Muslims.

When you read about Afghanistan's politicians calling for death to all American over one man threatening to burn a Quran you know that America has a little problem in the middle east.

The riots,rants and threats by Muslims are designed to try and intimidate non Muslims into compliance with their demands as Iman Rauf so predictably did on CNN Wednesday night.

Iman Rauf's behavior was clearly predictable for anyone who has a little understanding of Islam and its determinations.

FOLKS--THIS IS WHAT THEY DO!

The introduction to the article, by Mr Spencer, is one of his best !

Now we see that the Westboro Church of Topeka, Kansas is saying they will pick up where the Dove Church doesn't and burn the Quran themselves.

You know the Westboro Baptist Church, the small Topeka, Kan., church that pickets funerals of American soldiers to spread its message that God is punishing the country for being tolerant of homosexuals, has vowed to hold a Quran burning if Gainesville's Dove World Outreach Center calls its off.

The Westboro Church has actually burned the Koran once in the past and the members of the Phelps church said; "if you sissy brats of Doomed America bully Terry Jones and the Dove World Outreach Center change their plans to burn that blasphemous tripe called the Koran, then WBC will burn it (again), to clearly show you some things," the church announced in a news release this week.

Dove World is one of the few groups to join forces with Westboro members, who have protested at funerals across the country.

In April, a handful of Westboro members picketed outside of the University of Florida Hillel, the Jewish student center, and Trinity United Methodist Church, and Jones and about 30 members of his congregation joined the WBC members outside of Trinity United.

I wonder whether there is no one in the Muslim world - and I mean in a Muslim ruled and dominated nation - who has the guts and the will to stand up to the crowd and say: "listen guys. You may not be aware of it, but the Book of the Prophet (string of salutations) contains ...well expressions and phrases that if not understood as they ought be understood could be misunderstood as denouncing the Infidel and his dastardly acts and rejections. And perhaps the same Infidel is a bit fed up with having to accept it as the true order of things, so for once do try, just try look at the phrases expressed by the Prophet (string of salutations) from the Infidel's point of view. Not to mention you may not be holier than him, Inshallah, as other misunderstanders of the True Faith have so very ably demonstrated."
And he or she would perhaps then dare loudly attack the more violent and supremacist core issues of the Quran and the hadith, even those bits blaming everyone and everything but Islam and the Quran.
I wonder even more whether he or she would survive it for long.

Does anyone else notice the hypocrasy? Objecting to the burning of a book by burning a flag... Objecting to a supposed insult by calling for murder...

http://mightyrubble.blogspot.com/2010/09/muslim-leaders-irresponsible-reactions.html

Living in fear of the Religion of Peace'...The Movie...

Chapter 15...copycats...

Now there will be Quran burnings in Wyoming,Tennessee, and Kansas...This could turn into a national pass time...

Burn the Qur'an -- that's wrong. Blow up giant Buddha statues -- that's ok!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1214384.stm

Pandora's box is uncovered once again, as is the tinderbox of Muslim rage, while the world's 'leadership' (including the Vatican) is in denial of the dangers civilization faces.

US troops across the globe were no safer before the Koran-burning announcement, nor were US interests. They were, are & will continue being vaporized into pink clouds along with suicidal adherents of Islam.

Our military condemns Koran-burning, yet they ordered the destruction of countless Bibles in Afghanistan not long ago.

The AP recently announced the strict policy of censoring any pictures of Koran-burning, yet they led the MSM in covering the incineration of said Bibles.

Our Commander-in-Chief's 'cajones' are indeed under-developed as Sarah Palin so aptly put it, yet she herself has joined the dhimmi ranks.

The US's very first act of capitulation was to quickly rename 'Operation Crusade'.

The stick on Islam's shoulder awaits the West to splap it off...

Funny-the Koran burning hadn't even taken place yet the usual suspects act in the usual manner. It's typical though,
the "religion" of intolerance always acts out violently for the weakest excuses or none at all.

Yes. Quarantine is the only solution. We need to ban Islam from our countries and then have nothing whatsoever to do with the world of Islam. Let them destroy themselves. The Chinese built a wall to keep undesirables out. The Romans built walls. Israel has had to do the same. By "wall" I don't just mean bricks and mortar, of course. Cease trading with Islamic countries. Stop immigration from Islamic coutries. Deport Imams. Those who still want Islam - put them on a plane to an Islamic hell-hole of their choice. Do SOMETHING. The West is doing NOTHING. Or at least nothing to help us. All the support from Western governments and media seems to be for Islam....

I left out a most important adjective...

The Jews of Europe historically resisted pogroms *passively*,

@BBC on Afghan protests of Koran burning - In an Eid message, President Karzai said: "We have heard that in the US, a pastor has decided to insult Korans. Now although we have heard that they are not doing this, we tell them they should not even think of it. (my bold)

So to even just "think about it" makes these stone-age idiots go apeshit on Eid?
Why am I not surprised? Not even newsworthy....THIS IS JUST WHAT THEY DO.

Much adoodoo about nothing.... Yawwwnnn...

Such situations of increasing Moslem intimidation of any thing we do which they deem as insulting to Islam, is going to get more and more as the Moslem population in the West increases.

I actually think Pastor Terry Jones, and the response of Gen Petraeus and Pres Bush, is taking us to a point where some defining decisions will have to be made.

violence

"Thousands of Afghans are protesting a small American church's plan to burn the Muslim holy book. At least 11 people have been injured.
"Police in the northern province of Badakhshan say several hundred demonstrators....[9 injured]
"In western Farah province, police said two people were injured in another protest...."

Somehow the AP gets "thousands" of protesters out of two protests, of which the large one only has "hundreds". More AP arithmetic.

However, even if it is thousands and not hundreds, that's still a pretty poor turnout in a country of 30 million. Looks like they're a bunch of W.I.M.P.'s -- Weakly Inspired Moslem People.
Of course, it's still the say before the proposed burning, and the burning hasn't actually happened yet, so maybe they'll show more enthusiasm if and when it does.

Nicoali Sennels points out the differences in Western and Islamic cultural norms.

The West vests the individual with responsibilities, obligations and liberty to enjoy the rights from their creator. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit...

Islam vests all this and more to the Islamic Trilogy and the ummah that enforces it. Truly submission of all things human to an external force, leaving the individual with nothing. Simply drones.

So far, 58% of readers who answered today's NY Daily News poll on the Florida pastor book burning support him.

Only 20% oppose the pastor's action.

Still time to vote.

The American people are speaking their mind and it is not the pathetic liberal knee jerk kumbaya crap of the media and the Buffoon in Chief.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/09/10/2010-09-10_florida_pastor_terry_jones_daughter_pleads_with_dad_not_to_burn_korans_at_911_ra.html

Another reason to come to the rally tomorrow.

Just in.

Obama today made a big point about how we all must accept Islam, that it is just another religion, it's part of our shared American tradition of diversity and, after all, who could not love those kids who are so cute and pray at the local mosque.

Well, Mr. President, you are digging a deeper hole for yourself with such rhetoric.

We understand that you are terrified that the American people, frankly, think you are full of shit.

We know our enemies.

They are the ones who attacked us on 911, in case you need reminding.

They did it in the name of Islam.

And, yes, we don't accept Islam.

( Read complete article here)

http://jewishdailyreport.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/obama-how-can-we-call-islam-offensive/

Good grief, Robert!

You and I are in total agreement about where the blame lies for any actual violence associated with this affair.

And that this ought to have been used as a "teachable moment" for the American political classes to stand up for liberty - and they muffed it.

Not only Gates and Petraeus and Obama but damned near every conservative who has had one word to say on the subject.

And do you find the false equivalence drawn between Americans taking offense at the Muslim Y near Ground Zero and fanatical Muslim anger at the impending Koran roast as appalling as I do?

Americans are offended to the point of loud protest, but not violence, that Muslims - even if totally innocent of bad intentions or any evil associations - should wish to construct a mosque so near the scene of the savage murder of 3,000 of us by a conspiracy of 19 religiously motivated Muslim killers.

Muslim fanatics, on the other hand, are offended to the point of murder, enlisting for terrorism, arson, and warfare against all Americans and pretty much anyone who looks at them cross-eyed that one lonely soul in darkest Florida plans to burn a book.

If the utter craziness of this does not strike the mind quite clearly, imagine instead that they are flying into such a wild rage because the fellow is planning to burn an old rag in which he yesterday wrapped fish.

Oh, you say, but a fishy, smelly rag is not sacred.

Ah, I say.

It is in just such an idea of sacredness that the craziness lies.

The Florida pastor could burn a pile of books -that he claims are Korans- then, as the conflagration rises, pluck one book out of the fire and show it to the cameras ...as merely a copy of... "Mein Kampf"... or "The Communist Manifesto" or Mao's "LIttle Red Book".

Then ask: "You tell me... what's the damned difference?"

Okay...ultimately the responsibility for the injuries lies with those that caused them...however...
Yellow Journalism caused deaths when false claims of koran flushing were passed on by the media. They were entirely at fault for reporting lies that caused deaths.
In this case they bear secondary responsibility...if there is such a thing, and I say there is.

If they had ignored this single Pastor and his 50 followers nothing would have happened if he had burned some paper rather than recycle it. It would have passed unnoticed as has the burning of Bibles by our government in Afghanistan both by Bush and by the Obama administration.
No one gives a damn about that. No one died. Hell...no one even heard about it. Yet burning that crap is tantamount to war?
I'm to the point where all I wanna do is say, "BRING IT!" Let's get this crap out in the open and over with!
Alas this will not happen and we must continue the battle with Truth as our sword until the bullets actually start flying our way. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. In the meantime keep your powder dry and your dogs close.

islam is a lie and
Truth is killing it.

"Everyone seems to have forgotten about freedom of expression, and why it is so important to reinforce even when we find the expression detestable -- indeed, especially in such cases. And so, if we continue down this path, one thing is certain: that which is not understood or valued will not be protected, and so it will be lost."

Gee Bobby, "freedom of expression", for everyone? So by your words here, you now support the concepts which state that the Cordoba Mosque SHOULD be built, even though you find it detestable, nay "especially" because you find it detestable.

I just KNEW you'd come around, good for you Mr Spencer!!!

Allah Bless America!!!

The Pastor did make a good point. He merely threatens to burn Qurans and the Muslim and dhimmi world gets hysterical and condemns him, and the world is told that any Muslim retaliation would be justified. A giant mosque is being built over the ruins of 9/11 with Saudi jihad money and those American citizens who oppose it are ridiculed and ignored and told to be "tolerant" of the desecration. It is the unofficial global enforcement of Sharia law, which claims worldwide jurisdiction. Can anyone foresee the next step?

I am becoming increasingly if irrationally convinced that the only way to stop this rampant violence is to react in kind. A reasoned, civilized, intelligent, compassionate response does not win the hearts and minds and never will when there are hearts and minds steeped from childhood in ignorance, fear, barbarism, zealotry and idolatry for a god and a prophet promoting and demanding violence and death as the ultimate guarantee of immortality.

The civilized world continues to show itself pitifully unable to deal with this threat using a civilized approach and it is apparent that the civilized world is not even able to discern the nature of the threat blinded as it is by the currently accepted approach to properly demonstrate a commitment to civility and tolerance, political correctness.

Muslims, the ones hell bent on implementing Sharia as the law of the world, prey on this weakness and though I have no direct evidence it would be no surprise to learn that Mosques around the world are reveling in anticipation of defeating the most powerful nation on earth by exploiting what they correctly perceive as our Achilles heel. According to a Muslim Brotherhood manifesto in part, “eliminating and destroying ‘Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions.’" But why take them at their word!

Political correctness will be our downfall. Islam is not a religion it is a political system with an ultimate goal based on a global strategy that makes Adolph Hitler look like a minor criminal.

Adolph Hitler's Nazi Germany and Hirohito's Japan were not defeated by demonstrating that we were peaceful, tolerant, compassionate intellectuals uninterested in territorial expansion or in theirs.

Perhaps as a result of the self propelled ascendancy of the modern intellectual elite who've rewritten history to suit their own Utopian version of truth, not as it was described by those poor ignorant and mostly deceased souls that actually lived it but as it must have been according to the brilliant musings of vastly superior intellectuals in academia, their dream world substitution of reality, we could have defeated or rendered harmless all of those enemies past if only we had been more politically correct. Surely this infinitely superior, never before tried approach will work now, won't it?

What’s the likelihood? WWII ended in our favor because we were the first to develop the atomic bomb. Its use on Hiroshima and Nagasaki wasn't pretty; it wasn't noble: it certainly wasn't politically correct but it ended a war that without a doubt would have gone on far longer and killed far more, on both sides, than the millions it already had. Using nuclear weapons to end it will likely remain one of the most controversial and highly criticized strategies ever used in war but is there any doubt as to who would have been the first to use it if not for the success of the Manhattan Project? Germany? Japan? Russia? And where would America be today? Fortunately we’ll never know but I suspect political correctness would be the very least of our concerns.

Many nations have now joined or are in the process of joining the nuclear club as was universally feared once Einstein’s theoretical Gordian Knot was untied and the world has become a much more dangerous place. Deeply troubling and case in point is Pakistan and Iran, both Islamic nations harboring militaristic Islamic factions patiently waiting for the chance they know will eventually come; the chance for another 9/11 times 1000, a nuclear spear from Allah. But why seal our borders and we’ve got lots of time to develop counter strategies….haven’t we?

We will have to face this threat, hopefully proactively, not with political correctness but with the same kind of patriotic, national commitment prevalent during WWII. To paraphrase General George S. Patton, “the purpose of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” Either we man up, take the inevitable heat for collateral damage and kill these bastards or we get our bravest and finest out of the Islamic middle east, purge the radical Islamic interlopers now operating subversively and with impunity at every level of American culture and rethink our strategy for dealing with the fascist elements of a dangerously flawed cult intent on world domination.