Historic 9/11 Stop the Mosque at Ground Zero Rally: Massive Media Distortion of Massive Rally in New York City
New York, NY September 16, 2010 -- by El Marco
This year's 9/11 anniversary in New York brought opponents and supporters of the controversial Ground Zero Mosque to lower Manhattan by the thousands. That fact has spawned a new controversy, as the American people yet again were served a false narrative by the dominant liberal establishment mass media.
Exhibit A, in the "media reality distortion case #2478697," is the photo scene below. This photo shows the 9/11 Remembrance/Stop the Ground Zero Mosque Rally hosted by Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. According to The New York Times, what is seen here is a crowd of 2,000 persons. According to the New York Daily News, the crowd below contained "hundreds," despite the fact that it stretched jam packed as seen below for three city blocks. Local NYC News Channel 10 reported live that there were 30,000 people at this rally. Channel 10 should be applauded for doing their job, and the rest of the media stands exposed.
But wait! The distortion goes much deeper than just downplaying by a factor of 10 or 20 the size of the Stop the Ground Zero Mosque Rally.
With headlines like Angry Protests Mar Solemn Day, and Both Sides Desecrate Vigil, New York papers painted a scene of divisive struggle between roughly equivalent numbers of protesters at the anti-mosque and pro-mosque rallies. Nothing could be further from the truth. Those at the Stop the Mosque Rally were well apart from the radicals and communists who strutted their stuff and chanted political slogans on the streets of lower Manhattan.
The Stop the Mosque rally hosts, Geller and Spencer, instructed participants not to bring signs, only flags, in order to emphasize the sanctity and solemnity of the occasion. They also emphasized in their promotional blog posts that it was to be a "remembrance rally." That was very much the tone of the rally I witnessed and photographed just next to 51 Park Place, the site of the proposed Cordoba House mosque/community center.
The second rally in question was described by The New York Times as being made up of "supporters of the proposed Islamic center" and "organized by a number of left-wing anti-war and pro-Palestinian groups, including the International Action Center. (IAC)." The IAC is an umbrella group for Marxist, Stalinist, and Castroist groups like the World Workers Party (WWP) which supplied hundreds of professionally printed signs. World Can't Wait was another main sponsor and communist umbrella organization.
I attended the leftist rally up until just before the Stop the Mosque Rally started at 3 p.m., exactly three blocks to the west. I estimated 1,500 leftist protesters inside the staging area at 2:45, with many more arriving at the time of my departure. The AP reported a total of 1,000 leftists.
The signs above were available by the hundreds. Note the signs about freeing Lynn Stewart the "People's Lawyer." All the major themes of the radical anti-American left were on display, including: Bush/Cheney War Criminals, Jobs not Hate, Say No to Tea Party Bigots, Worker Defense Guards Against Racist Anti-Immigrant Attacks. There were also signs denouncing President Obama for continuing with many of the Bush/Cheney Anti-terrorism policies. I saw one group of around 100 protesters chanting "Racists Go Home . . . Leave Muslims Alone" towards an open top double-decker tour bus stopped at a traffic light. It was packed with appalled tourists who looked on in amazement as protesters vented their rage at them.
Over on the relatively secluded side streets where the Stop Islamization of America Remembrance rally was assembled there was a completely different crowd. These are people who share a love of liberty, and country and an acute awareness of the perils America faces from Islamists, and their leftist allies.
Pamela Geller introduced speakers to the huge crowd. Speakers included 9/11 family members, first responders, and refugees from Islamic countries. Geller and her associate Robert Spencer sparked the entire Ground Zero Mosque debate when they held their first rally on June 6, 2010. The corporate media practically blacked out that rally also and but for coverage by bloggers no one would have known of this controversy as the liberal press had determined that you should be kept in the dark.
Fabrizio Bivona and Rosa Leonetti addressing the anti-mosque remembrance rally. Mr. Bivona is a firefighter, paramedic and RN. He was a first responder on 9/11.
Bivona said, "I listened to the imam say he didn't know the pain this was going to inflict. I hear the imam say he wants to bridge gaps and bring Muslims and non-Muslims together. Does that look like it's happening? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he didn't know then, but he knows now. There should be no doubt in his mind. When seventy-five plus percent of the people say 'Don't do this,' when family members who've been victimized are standing out there and saying 'Please, don't do this' -- so the answer to anyone's question if this guy's doing this to be provocative, or if he's doing it to build bridges, well we're going to find out tomorrow if he continues with this monstrosity, or if he stops this disaster now. . . . Let's honor the fallen."
Rosa Leonetti is a 9/11 family member. Her sister's husband, Lieutenant Joseph Gullickson of the FDNY's Ladder 101 in Red Hook, Brooklyn, perished on 9/11, rescuing the victims of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center.
"It did not matter to the four hundred and eleven emergency workers (who died) what the race, religion, nationality or ethnicity of the men and women and children were within those towers. . . . We have shown much respect and, above all, tolerance during these very long nine years. . . . tolerance for a mayor who puts his own business interests in the middle east ahead of the long suffering of family members . . . tolerance is not reserved for just one religion or one ideology . . . Do not ask us, the family members, to be tolerant of those who demonstrate selfish self serving behaviors and attitudes."
"Abdel Faisel Rauf is quoted this week as saying that if we don't do this right . . . anger will explode in the muslim world. Well, imam, anger is exploding in America too. He stated that if this situation is not handled correctly, it could become something very dangerous indeed. Does that sound like tolerance to you? It actually sounds more like a threat. Mr. Rauf, Americans do not like to be threatened. Tolerance is not reserved, nor should it be parceled out, to those who use the excuse of building a cultural center when what they are erecting is a rabat. . . . A rabat was typically raised in the midst of the conquered infidel as a symbol of strength and superiority."
When Ms. Leonetti mentioned the word rabat, I was sure that she had also seen the same article as I, just a day or two before in the New York Post by Amir Taheri. He explained much about Islamic supremacist colonialism, and the types of buildings constructed by Muslims historically during the process of conquest.
This is how some in the crowd reacted when Rosa Leonetti said "Mr. Rauf, Americans do not like to be threatened."
There were also video addresses by former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton and media-man Andrew Breitbart. Bolton reminded the crowd about the Ground Zero imam's many outrageous public statements, including that Osama bin Laden was made in the U.S.A., and that America has more blood on its hands than the terrorists. Bolton brought up questions about the United States State Department's funding of Imam Rauf's trip to the middle east, and that Department's policies concerning Islamism.
Joseph Nassralla, Coptic Christian human rights activist, made a heart wrenching speech on behalf of the much persecuted Christians of Egypt. Robert Spencer wrote:
"Nassralla garnered national attention last June at the first rally Geller and I hosted against the Ground Zero Mosque, when Keith Olbermann and other hard-Left pseudo-journalists trumpeted and misrepresented a misunderstanding between Nassralla and some others in the crowd as a racial incident."
The liberal left media turned what was shrugged off by those involved into a yarn about intolerance in America. Nassralla's startling speech put the lie to the leftist spin as he told of how, after escaping from Egypt, he is terrified by the growth of intolerant Islam in New York City and America.
In heavily accented English Nassralla spoke of the persecution and atrocities that are suffered by the Christian population of Egypt:
Wake up America! I came from Egypt. Egypt was Coptic, was Christian. 1,400 years Islamists conquered our country. You know it's written in the Koran that war is deceiving. They can lie to build this mosque here -- on my dead body. I escaped from Egypt for freedom here. Where I can go? You need me to go to the moon now? . . .
I'm sorry to show you my picture. This is one of our dear friends in Egypt. One of eight -- eight of them on the Christmas night. In the name of Islam, they said "Allah hu akhbar," and they killed them in front of the church.
Three thousand persons buried here, in this same area. . . . In ten years, if this mosque built here, using taqiya, using islamize of this country, you cannot stop them. It's gonna be too late. . . . I'm saying to you, "WAKE UP AMERICA!!" You don't need to be like this picture. Stop islamization of America."
Sam Khoshbaten is a true Muslim moderate. He is an Iranian activist, organizer of No to Ajmadinejad Committee. Khoshbaten spoke about oppression under the Islamic Republic of Iran and told the crowd, "Together we can eliminate the dark cloud of terrorism, by uniting with the brave people of Iran in their struggle for freedom."
Dutch MP Geert Wilders came from Holland for the rally. His speech was historic and ignored by the MSM.
Excerpts:
"The tolerance that is crucial to our freedom requires a line of defense. Mayor Bloomberg uses tolerance as an argument to allow Imam Rauf and his sponsors to build their so-called Cordoba Mosque.
Mayor Bloomberg forgets, however, that openness cannot be open-ended. A tolerant society is not a suicidal society. It must defend itself against the powers of darkness, the force of hatred and the blight of ignorance. It cannot tolerate the intolerant -- and survive.
"Most Americans do not want this so-called Cordoba Mosque to be built here. They understand that it is both a provocation and a humiliation. They understand the triumphant narrative of a mosque named after the Great Mosque of Cordoba which was constructed where a Christian cathedral stood before the land was conquered by Islam.
"Nine years ago, when the news of the terrible atrocity in New York reached Europe, Muslim youths danced in the streets. In a poll, two thirds of the Muslim immigrants in the Netherlands expressed partial or full understanding for the 9/11 terrorists.
If a mosque were built here on Ground Zero such people would feel triumphant. But we, we will not betray those who died on 9/11. For their sakes we cannot tolerate a mosque on or near Ground Zero. For their sakes loud and clear we say: No mosque here! For their sakes, we must draw the line. So that New York, rooted in Dutch tolerance, will never become New Mecca."
For full speech text, go to my brand-new Communities at The Washington Times column.
Andrew Breitbart was there in spirit via a video address:
"Political correctness got us into this problem in the first place. . . . Many in the media elite have been putting their heads in the sand since 9/11. Radical Islam is not just killing our soldiers. They're also waging a propaganda war against us. Those who have read Bernard Lewis, those who have read Mark Steyn, and those people who have chosen not to act like ostriches have found themselves being called all sorts of names by those who have acted like ostriches. That is what we face today. It's a battle of those who have the will to face up to the challenges that we face in America in 2010, nine years after 9/11. Americans have every right to congregate at Ground Zero at the WTC to represent the majority point of view. Do not let Katie Couric and her cavalcade of the politically correct media elite tell you that you don't have the right to be here. This is a strong message, not just to the radical islamists that we have the backbone to stand up to the war that we face against them, but to those that would cower in the face of that peril, our media elite."
Nelly Braginskaya lost her son on 9/11. She explained, in her heavy Russian accent, that most families who have a grave site for those murdered that day have a small fragment of bone, or perhaps a jacket, or something with only a bit of DNA in the grave. Ground Zero is the real grave site, and for many blocks around, the remains of the victims were scattered with the ashes of the buildings.
"Everybody say "let people pray" like it only about religion. But this is not about freedom of religion. This is about geography. You (Muslims) can pray, but a little bit farther (away from Ground Zero). What's big deal? God will hear you if you will pray."
Ilario Pantano, candidate for U.S. Congress, addressed the crowd.
"On 9/11 it wasn't New York that was attacked, it was America that was attacked. It was freedom that was attacked. And we can't forget not only what happened, not only the murderous intent that killed 3,000 Americans. We can't forget for a moment that that they wanted to kill 50,000 Americans, or maybe 100,000 Americans. . . . We can't forget that since those attacks, hundreds of thousands of men and women around the world have been killed by jihadists, in the name of radical Islam. From Egypt to Bali, from Baghdad to Kabul, no one can forget there was a car bomb here in Times Square six months ago. Folks, if you think this is over, it's just beginning. . . . So what's my opinion about a mosque at Ground Zero? NO MOSQUE HERE. . . ."
Pantano tied in Iran's actions against Israel with the Gaza Flotilla, and pointed out Imam Rauf's involvement with the Gaza Flotilla, and questioned where the money from the mosque is coming from.
In the crowd there were families of those murdered on 9/11, military veterans, New Yorkers, and people who had travelled from around the country and from abroad to be here today. Above, three U.S. Marine Corps veterans listened intently to Pantano.
Attorney Larry Klayman attended the rally. He has filed a suit on behalf of 9/11 first responders. The suit seeks $350 million in damages, against the developers of Park 51, claiming that the plans for the mosque have resulted in "emotional, mental and physical" damage to those impacted by 9/11.
Wave Chan, a New York Tea Party organizer, has filed a non-profit corporation to raise money to make an offer for the Park 51 property. He got the idea from Debra Burlingame, who was the sister of the pilot of Flight 77 which was hijacked by jihadis and flown into the Pentagon, murdering Burlingame's brother and 188 other souls. Chan hopes to get a memorial built at 51 Park Place. He noticed that the Preview of the 9/11 Memorial doesn't show a single image of an airplane, makes no reference to terrorism or jihad, etc. Chan lives not far from Ground Zero. For many hours on 9/11, 2001, Chan did not know whether his brother, who works in the Financial District, survived the attack.
First responder FDNY firefighter Steve Sharp thanks Ms. Geller for her work. Many off-duty firefighters and police officers from New York City and other parts of the country were in the crowd.
The biggest problem I have with Mosques and "Islamic Cultural Centers" in general is that it brings Islamic culture. It really is that simple. What can people expect to happen to their neighborhood with such a thing? >Answer
The obvious disregard that the MSM is demonstrating reveals that they are active agents in the dhimmification of America.
At some point, inevitably, the lives of tens of millions of Americans will be negatively affected by Islam on a regualr basis. And when that happens, people will wake up and kick out Islam.
A 'religion' called 'Submission' doesn't stand a chance in a country founded on 'Freedom'. The two can never be reconciled.
"Leftist Filmmaker Raises $50,000+ for Ground Zero Mosque"
(-we're talking Michael Moore):
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7415/pub_detail.asp
Michael Moore is a fat turd. An utter ignoramus. End of story.
I wonder why the MSM and intellectuals of this country have become such liars and they won't stop at anything to peddle their moronic ideas which the regular folks don't want have any part of.
One would think they can learn just by listening to the people. But, no, they are so intellectually superior to all of us that they smugly efuse to listen to the common wisdom!!!
"No to racism and anti-Muslim bigotry" say the posters carried by the very unhappy-looking men, looking as usual like victims full of self-pity and understanding not a word why this happens to them.
"No to Islamist Supremacism and anti-Infidel hate mongering" would be the obvious answer. But they and their apologists wouldn't understand a word of that either to the end of their days. Sometimes I wonder whether they have actually read the Quran, a bit more than the daily prayers, and tried to understand the true meaning of it. Are they too ignorant, too stupid or is it that they just don't care?
It really is very simple: by giving in to Muslim demands and claims we shall have peace. If we do not give in to Muslim claims and demands we shall not have peace. The choice is ours. The logic is twisted, but that is Islam in a nutshell: demands, claims, assertions and allegations of little sense, mixed with self-pity and victimization in a volatile concoction. I am aghast that such nonsense should have any influence this day and age.
Muslims - go back to your own countries. You have no business here. What? Your allah-worshipping crapistans' aren't good enough for you?
My reply to that would be "Yes to commentary in regards to Islam, commentary is not bigotry".
In regards to apologists on the left, I'm convinced they suffer from pure ignorance, and intellectual cowardice in regards to Islam ... typically variant combination of both.
More from Moore on 9/11:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b43zY8tpDI0&feature=player_embedded
And from Max Keiser, Report No. 76, (eg. about 5 mins in)
on 9/11:
http://maxkeiser.com/2010/09/09/kr76-keiser-report-markets-finance-extradition/
http://newstime.co.nz/pamela-geller-and-robert-spencer-closing-remarks-at-911-rally-of-remembrance.html
Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer closing remarks at 911 rally of remembrance
http://www.faithfreedom.org/features/news/michael-moore-dedicates-himself-for-the-cause-of-islam/
Michael Moore Dedicates Himself for the Cause of Islam
The ultivative dhimmi's dhimmi (9:29)
Please don't post that crap from Mooron. Why would you direct people to his crap? Don't even acknowledge the moron and maybe he will go away. Why you would want to up his hit count and make it appear he is that much more credible just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If you seen the vile crap coming from that pie-hole once then you have heard it all...PLEASE STOP POSTING LINKS TO MICHAEL MOORON.
This dissimulation by the press, and the highest levels of our government goes on every single day. Like the other day when Obama told Americans that we should not hate people just because they worship differently than we do. The simplicity of this statement actually illustrates the dissimulation. If Obama's statement is true, that people dislike Islam, because it looks like Muslims are trying to stand on their heads when they pray or something, then yes we are bigots. I will say it here, if you dislike Islam, because you hate people that look like they are trying to stand on their heads when they pray then you are a bigot. However, if you dislike Islam, because of the example set by the life and times of Mohammed is something you disagree with, and that you think Muslims are hypocrites and morons for following an ideology concocted by such a man ..., and or you dislike certain aspects of Islamic culture, and or Islamic doctrine, and you also think it poses a threat to the long term peace and security of our nation, then no you are not a bigot. You have specific concerns about Islamic doctrine, history and culture which you want to talk about ... you don't hate people that (look like they are trying to stand on their heads when they pray) worship differently than you do.
To Mr. Spencer:
This is an excellent post, and shows that your rally made everyone present there feel solid about their positions.
But as I had anticipated, your rally had virtually no effect outside the group who attended. The primary result has become an ongoing dispute regarding the inaccurate media coverage of your rally. We already know that the media is dishonest on such issues.
LOOK ON THE OTHER HAND, at the response to the city worker who got fired for desecrating a Koran. It is today on the front page of the NY Times, WITH NUMEROUS PROMINENT PEOPLE SUPPORTING HIM!
This guy, as well as the mustachioed pastor, are having a lot more impact than your rally regarding Islamic expansion.
While people at your rally were remembering, shedding tears, and waving flags, that stuff has happened at 3 locations (GZ, Pentagon, Penn.) for 9 years, not to mention numerous political events, so it is old news. Your flag-waving cannot compete if it is on the same day that the president, the VP, and the first ladies are also engaging in flag-waving, remembering, and shedding tears.
I hope you are not ignoring my comments, because I am trying to help you.
Here is a recap of my latest ideas on a recent post: (i) try to take out ads with devastating facts about Islam in communities with large Islamic influence, student papers, etc., and then make powerful First Amendment claims when you are denied; (ii) as I predicted, THERE WILL BE POWERFUL ATTORNEYS WHO WILL FIGHT FOR YOU FOR FREE! Look at the NY Times today, the city worker already has a published offer to be represented!
Attorneys such as those fighting for landmark status of the building, or those who are claiming $350 million in emotional damages from the GZ mosque, are quite frankly MAKING YOUR POSITION LOOK RIDICULOUS.
The reality is that right now, the mosque supporters and the imam are looking sane in the media, and the opponents are looking crazy. YOU NEED TO CHANGE THIS.
Another idea I have: Conduct a large rally with people opposed to the mosque standing at the entrance to Bloomberg's office carrying large signs with devastating facts about Islam, and demand an answer from Bloomberg as to why he supports an institution that will glorify such a prophet. I guarantee that you will get lots of coverage, and will have a big impact.
To Mr. Spencer:
Bullet point summary: The pro-Islam are people are looking more sane than their opponents right now.
YOUR MISSION, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO ACCEPT IT (as they would say on Mission Impossible) IS TO BRING OUT,IN THE UNITED STATES, THE PATHOLOGICAL ISLAMIC INSANITY that lies just beneath the surface of their calm and polite exteriors, not to mention their superb grooming and well-tailored outfits.
Whoever does that successfully will become the leader in the efforts to curtail Islamic expansion.
There are probably only a few people in the US capable of doing this right now. You are one of them.
Actually, Michael Moore is a stupid fat white man. And I am another fat [mostly] white man.
I see, Arthur, that you've not been able to break free from that prison of self-aggrandizement in which you're trapped. I just want to say, with all respect, that I think you are full of shit.
Now that said, I do like the idea of public pressure on Hizzoner Mohammad Bloomberg. But what will we get with your latest suggestion?
Hizzoner wouldn't even comment on it. He'd send a "spokesperson" out to say something like, "The mayor will not allow a few bigoted
people to shake his faith in freedom of religion, as enshrined by our founding fathers." And that will be the end of that!
Now what? Fire-bomb city hall? Let's save that for when Hizzoner officially converts to islam.
But keep trying, Arthur. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in a while...
Michael Moore has never interested me much: he always seemed the kind who liked to rock the boat for the fun of it and make his ideas seem interesting. But I hadn't known until now that it's the Western self-hate behind it all. The sort of unpleasant know-it-all who'll join forces with anyone to drive home a point.
He dislikes his country so much he'll accept any alternative, not caring that they'll introduce something that is worse.
"Attorney Larry Klayman attended the rally. He has filed a suit on behalf of 9/11 first responders. The suit seeks $350 million in damages, against the developers of Park 51, claiming that the plans for the mosque have resulted in "emotional, mental and physical" damage to those impacted by 9/11."
Bravo, Mr. Klayman! ...I hope your case wins; and I would love to see the developers of Park 51 flooded with even more lawsuits. That evil lot deserves nothing less.
I still feel this is a ruse and a Victory Mosque inside a trojan Horse.
Just use Google earth or any basic Map of the GZ area,there are 3 airports near by,keep this in mind because the WTC towers had Mini-Mosque in them to appease the Muslim workers with a Prayer space to "Bring Shariah to work day".
Since I have yet to hear just one iota of outrage from CAIR or any Imam that those 19 criminals attack Mosques and killed Martyr's...oops,Muslims too on 9/11. Then it begs the question for CAIR to answer why they are so sure the "Misunderstanders" out there would somehow gain new morals and NOT slam a plane into the Apostate Mosque on a Friday prayer to maximize the deaths?
Remember,fully fueled planes just moments away after take off and the target will be a 13 storey Mosque with the top floor a Muslim-Only section.
The Martyr's go to Allah,the blame goes on the Jews or Christian bigots,CAIR spreads more infidelophobia and takes the Denial-Stance that the hijackers were not Muslims.
The Whahhabi masters spend less than 200 million for a Trojan Horse on US soil to create more riots and killings than $1 Billion in Taqqiyah propaganda or bogus hate-crimes.
In Iraq we see Muslims killing other Muslims as they both see the "Others" as apostates in a corrupted islam.
Don't try to tell me that Hooper and Awad won't jump at the chance to lay blame even when the first stone is tossed to break a window that I know some Muslims would love to do to incite hatred in New York no matter who did it.
The Victory-Mosque is a Loss-leader to draw in more Jihadists for the Global caliphate ruled by Shriah, any Chess player knows that you can sacrifice some pawns to draw out the enemy and expose a Check-mate move.
BTW
I would like to see the Provisions in the building codes for any future changes to add floors in the guise of more "Prayer-Space" to go deeper into the peaceful islam of tolerance and love. Plus, no Sniper-towers,oops,,,minerettes either to fire any RPG's or use laser-light to blind Pilots or use as a beacon guide for the Jihad Plane to home in.
The onus is now on islam and Muslims to earn my trust,I didn't fly a 747 into Mekkah during haaj to slaughter 1000's and cause Muslim to distrust westerners. THEY drew first blood and gawd help them if another 9/11 comes along and CAIR tries the same scam of denial.
Human Rights belong to Humans, not rabid animals killing civilians as a favour to their God.
Know Islam - No Peace
No islam - Know Peace
Denise:
Bravo, I actually filed a complaint against my Employer that now forced worker to tie the employment contract to a agreed endorsement of a parade that not only bashes Jews ,but has a pro-hamas sect in the prarade when we know hamas murders gays in public and uses females as suicide bombers.
I also alleged that the endorsemnt makes me complicit by my silence that infers a tacit approval to kill gays in gaza,but it also is a Public parade where children are there which means it's Child-abuse according the the UNICEF convention for Children's-Rights to be free from mental harm inflicted by adults.
The Shariah law advocates and Human Rights people are fighting it out over who is more equal than others,so far the pro-hamas/jew bashers are winning.
Ironically, as my claims are mocked by my employer, their very own website boast about the "Charity-Foundation" for social causes as a good corporate Citizen,BUT....the figure show they only allot 14% of donation to childrens causes.
This while they expect worker to donate to the fund as well,plus appease the islamofascists with funds going to the pro-hamas events and anti-israel yahoos in the parade. Oddly enough though, a TV news station was threaten by a Pro-Abortion feminist/gay lobby to delete a Corporate Logo from a office tower in the backdrop image of the skyline at night. Seems that the LOGO was tied to a credit card feature to donate Points to a pro-Life cause by ordering the designer Credit cards similar to the PETA or WWF series.
Kinda odd how a Corporation boasts over giving 14% from the Foundation to childrens causes while they bowed down to the demands by a pro-abortion mob to either stop the credit cards from being issued or a outright boycott or the TV station if it keeps the LOGO in the backdrop.
The building now has a new Logo that is subtle and doesn't glow as bright at night.
proves my point that the most intolerant people are the ones demanding tolerance.
"Muslims - go back to your own countries. You have no business here. What? Your allah-worshipping crapistans' aren't good enough for you"
Unfortunately, it's not yet "United States of Courreges W" and there are at least a million believers who are American. So it's their own country there.
When you "kick out" all the Super Secret Demographic Jihad Muslims, who gets to keep their property? Is it you?
Well, Yusef, it sure as hell isn't the United States of Islam, either. And it never will be.
About that muslim property question? We sell it off at auction and all proceeds go to 9/11 and Fort Hood victims of MUSLIM attacks.
Hope that helps!
Here's a fact you're not likely to see on tonight's evening news broadcasts: According to a recent poll, Arabs living abroad are more likely to be opposed to the "Ground Zero Mosque" than the American media are.
According to a recent survey by the Arabic online news service Elaph (Arabic version here), 58 percent of Arabs think the construction should be moved elsewhere. And according to a Media Research Center study released last week, 55 percent of network news coverage of the debate has come down on the pro-Mosque side.
The MRC study also found that on the question of whether opposition to the mosque demonstrated a widely held "Islamophobia" among Americans, 93 percent of network news soundbites answered ion the affirmative. In contrast, when asked whether the United States is a "tolerant" or "bigoted" society, 63 percent of Elaph respondents chose the former.
More:
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/09/20/survey-shows-arabs-more-opposed-gz-mosque-american-media#ixzz107UxKolh
Just do a search on 'Sweden' and 'Muslims' to see where the road of tolerance to Islam without conditions goes to. The Danes caught on sooner and are having a difficult time rectifying the situation.
If you are really confused and wondering what all the hubub is about, just host an Islamic student. You'll see...
I think that the coptic christian guy that spoke is right, we need to slap the islamic leaders down now before its too late, and when i say slap em down i mean put a stop to there attempting to islamize this country with there mosques and there complaining about everyone being racsists especially when they dont tolerate anyone elses beliefs. look at europe and how they are taking over folks, we are next. WAKE UP AMERICA ! WAKE UUUUPPP NOW! BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!
CNN's international News page is disgusting. It has a separate section for "Muslims in 2010".
I would request everyone to shower them with E-mail to clarify if islam is their official religion (I know it is) and why are they biased towards islam. I just emailed them!
The so called "main stream media" still enjoys the notoriety and the attention they're receiving from those who are rightly outraged by the obvious bias but it's long past time that they be marginalized by the only legitimate means available.........total dismissal; no further mention of anything they write, say or do. Stop watching and listening to their propaganda broadcasts, drop their viewership, listenership and readership to those that remain enthralled and equally out of touch.
They continue to ride on the coat tails of the stellar reputation they once enjoyed in their long past heyday, Edward R. Murrow, Chet Huntley, David Brinkley, etc. but under our noses they began to staff up with graduates from American institutions of higher learning that were and are producing the useful idiots that no longer are motivated as journalists who relate what is happening but as "intellectuals," taught by tenured, "superior intellectuals" with no real world experience, who editorialize and give their own distorted versions of the meaning and relevance of events and Americas guilt for all the worlds problems.
They are struggling mightily to "educate" us, "teaching" us the error of our ways and our "stupid, flag waving, patriotic" attitudes. Like children we are supposed to be subdued, awed by their “obviously superior” demeanor. They take great comfort in sharing their whacked out viewpoints with their equally whacked out contemporaries and colleagues rising above the rabble who don't have the intellectual capacity to ever understand or achieve the mental acuity required to join their exclusive club but maybe if they just keep talking to each other through their ill gotten megaphone the rest of us will begin to see just how superior they really are and dutifully, fall into line. If not? It won't matter, we'll all be better off with them and their "superior" gurus in charge.
The GZM is a classic case in point but far from the only case and far from being the first. Why do we still allow ourselves to give them the satisfaction of being the cause of our anger and frustration? Especially when there is an ever expanding universe of alternative sources for reportage. None of us are forced to listen to the opinions of people for whom we have no respect, people who rage, sputter and spew absolute opinionated nonsense with a straight, smug, superior, narcissistic smirk on their faces nor do we have to listen to what they say or read what they write.
Cut them loose. They have every right to their opinions but they don't have the right to our captive attention nor do they have a license to exercise undue influence.
I HATE HATE CRIMES - THAT IS WHY I HATE THE MUSLIM BIBLE (THE KORAN).
That bible is full of god-sanctioned crimes against Jews and Christians and Pagans, and even Muslim women because they are inferior to men in every way. The Koran itself is a Hate Crime! It advocated lots of hate crimes clearly - so why doesn't anyone point this out? Because anyone who does stand a damn good chance of ending up on a Muslim's hit list. That is the only reason the Muslims are doing so well against us. Because we are afraid to be murdered - think I'm kidding? Think about it please!
@Arthur
while you might see only "few" gathered about the podium, this post reaches further than that confined area where the 30K+ had gathered.
out beyond the Mississippi, many are reviewing this and other posts and not referencing the NY scene but what is in some of the "other" cities of the US. and many are becoming much more vocal and encouraged and even feeling empowered to speak out, ask questions, scrutinize the politicos who have far too many Muslim advisers gathered about.
many are considering just what WAMY and MSA are doing on campuses. they question when CAIR shows up at a meeting.
while many are worried that the cops are beleaguered with differing causes and protests, many more have become concerned as to just who is advising those who are hired to uphold our laws, not sharia.
it's working, Arthur, despite the media types, too.
many want truth, they desire to know this enemy, because they prefer (do not have a phobia about but PREFER) to reduce and discourage the influence these folks think they deserve because their socalled prophet was a tyrantgodlike thing who raises them yet on fear and blood.