Hamas-linked Islamic groups compare Ground Zero mosque to Rosa Parks

You remember when Rosa Parks took down the Twin Towers? Remember when she murdered 13 Americans at Fort Hood? Remember her Times Square bomb plot? Remember her Christmas underwear plot? Remember when she murdered a soldier at a Little Rock Army recruiting center? Remember her London bombings? Her Madrid bombings? Her Mumbai bombings? Her Beslan massacres? Her Bali bombings?

Ah, there I go again, eh? Painting Muslims with a broad brush. Muslims didn't do any of those things, you see. Even though their perpetrators were all Muslims acting by their own word in the name of Islam, there are other Muslims who condemn them, and so the ones who condemn them cannot be made to share the responsibility for all those crimes and acts of war. Right?

Sure. Except for the fact that the objective of all these acts of violence was to weaken Infidel polities so as to hasten the imposition of Sharia, and Rauf, imam of the Ground Zero mosque, is a proponent of Sharia. And not to mention also that many of these groups are linked to Hamas. So are they really an alternative to the jihadis? Or is their difference with them more about means than about ends?

"Muslim Leaders Stand by Islamic Center Near Ground Zero," by Anne Barnard for the New York Times, September 20 (thanks to all who sent this in):

Comparing the planners of the Muslim community center and mosque to be built two blocks from ground zero to Rosa Parks, leaders of numerous American Muslim organizations declared their strong support for the project on Monday, and said it should not move....

"We stand for the constitutional right of Muslims and Americans of all faiths to build houses of worship anywhere in our nation as allowed by local laws and regulations," said the statement read by Al-Amin Latif, president of the Majlis Ash-Shura of New York, also known as the Islamic Leadership Council of Metropolitan New York, which represents 55 mosques and Muslim groups. "Also, we stand against the racism, hatred, religious intolerance and ethnic bigotry directed against Islam and American Muslims."...

"Ground zero is all of ours," said Nihad Awad, the executive director of the [Hamas-linked] Council on American-Islamic Relations. "Ground zero does not belong to a specific group of people or religion. Ground zero belongs to all Americans, and we all share the grief, we all share the healing." He said it was unfair to associate the planned community center or all Muslims with 9/11.

Mahdi Bray, executive director of the Washington-based [Muslim Brotherhood front] Muslim American Society Freedom, the civil rights branch of the Muslim American Society, compared those who want the project built elsewhere to those who he said told Rosa Parks: "We want you to move. You offend us being where you are. This is not the right place for you to be."

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Parks sought equal treatment under the existing laws. Muslims wish to replace existing laws with a system entirely foreign to American jurisprudence. In the words of Jefferson,

"He [ref. to Geo. III, but substitute Rauf et alia] has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:"

Muslim Mahdi Bray: Rosa Parks is not analogous to your situation. Not analogous, at all.

Mohammedans: Neither Ms. Parks nor strippers' brought down the Towers' and mass-murdered 3,000 Americans.

YOU DID. MUSLIMS. ISLAM. ISLAMIC JIHAD.

Now, get your Victory Mosque out of our faces' and your defiant Muslim attitudes', too.

We have seen plenty of Islam's Rosa Parks. Only difference is that they like to blow buses to smithereens.

Oh! Thanks Bill - LOL - I needed to laugh...

Subject: Want to get rid of the Mosque Plans @ Ground Zero?

This is a great idea for the people in NYC to do...

EXCELLENT IDEA! BRILLIANT COUNTER MOVE!!! Doesn't cost a bomb to do it but it bombs out the Ground Zero plan.

In Seville, Spain, the City Council authorized the construction of a Mosque on one of the empty pieces of land. The citizens did not want the mosque built in their vicinity and found a brilliant solution.

They buried a pig in the land, and made the news public. The Islamic law prohibits the construction of a mosque on lands desecrated by remains of pigs, therefore the Muslims had to renounce the construction on this desecrated land...

Astute Sevillans...The commentaries of the Civil Guard (Police) are very interesting. Maybe it is the solution needed by New York to avoid the construction of a mosque in the vicinity of the twin towers.

The Israelis are using a similar strategy since 2004. They placed a box containing pig lard on the buses in Israel and made it public that any kamikaze suicide bomber who tries to assault a bus,risks the prohibition of entering the heaven by getting the pig lard on him & therefore no virgins waiting there !
There are no suicide bombers on the buses in Israel any more.


Subject: Want to get rid of the Mosque Plans @ Ground Zero?

This is a great idea for the people in NYC to do...

EXCELLENT IDEA! BRILLIANT COUNTER MOVE!!! Doesn't cost a bomb to do it but it bombs out the Ground Zero plan.

In Seville, Spain, the City Council authorized the construction of a Mosque on one of the empty pieces of land. The citizens did not want the mosque built in their vicinity and found a brilliant solution.

They buried a pig in the land, and made the news public. The Islamic law prohibits the construction of a mosque on lands desecrated by remains of pigs, therefore the Muslims had to renounce the construction on this desecrated land...

Astute Sevillans...The commentaries of the Civil Guard (Police) are very interesting. Maybe it is the solution needed by New York to avoid the construction of a mosque in the vicinity of the twin towers.

The Israelis are using a similar strategy since 2004. They placed a box containing pig lard on the buses in Israel and made it public that any kamikaze suicide bomber who tries to assault a bus,risks the prohibition of entering the heaven by getting the pig lard on him & therefore no virgins waiting there !
There are no suicide bombers on the buses in Israel any more.



CAIR = brood of vipers

I have heard some pretty wild analogies in my time; but the above-mentioned comparison of the potential mosque and Rosa Parks takes the proverbial cake.

I absolutely LOVE Google! I thought the comments about pig lard hanging on the buses was an urban legend until I dug this item up:

Published: 02/12/04, 10:00 PM / Last Update: 02/12/04, 11:53 PM
Swine: Secret Weapon Against Islamic Terror?

A suggestion that has been made repeatedly since the start of the Oslo War is about to be adopted by Israel’s police force. According to a report by Maariv, the plan calls for the insertion of bags of pig fat in public buses and other central locations in the hope that it will deter Islamic terrorist suicide bombers aiming for martyrdom from detonating themselves there.

The suggestion is based on the fact that Islam regards the pig as an unclean animal and Muslim law bars any Moslem who touches a pig before dying access to heaven. One of the basic motives for Islamic suicide terrorists is the assurance that as a ‘shahid’ or martyr, their place in paradise is guaranteed as they die in ‘holy martyrdom’ for the sake of Islam.

Although the idea has been vocally suggested for years, and was practiced in various forms by the British before 1948, the Maariv report says that the police just recently “thought of the idea,” but wanted to obtain rabbinic assurance that the plan would not upset observant Jews.

Rabbi Eliezer Moshe Fisher, of the Jerusalem Rabbinical Court, issued his official ruling on Wednesday saying, “there is no halachic (Jewish legal) ban on using bags of lard in buses and other places” when saving lives is concerned. The Jewish legal permit says that bags of lard may be placed in any place that might be a target for suicide bombings, such as schools, shopping malls, railway stations, and any other crowded area.

The rabbi also said that if the police do not use pig fat in buses, tens of thousands of Torah-observant Jews would arm themselves with spray guns filled with liquid lard, which they would then spray on terrorists as the need arises.

Deputy Defense Minister MK Yaakov Edri (Likud) came out in support of the new idea. “If bags of pig lard will prevent zealous Muslim terrorists from carrying out attacks, I’m all for it”, he said.

According to the Moskovski Komsomol newspaper, Russian security have been burying Chechen terrorists wrapped in pig's skin ever since the siege on a Russian theater last year. Reportedly, the actions have become a deterrent amongst Chechen Muslims but have done nothing to deter nationalist terrorism.

Residents of Gush Katif have tried the formula in the past, inserting pig fat in the body of terrorists that have attacked their homes. Residents told Arutz-7 that a "right-wing kibbutz-nik" had supplied them with the swine tissues. Arab MKs responded to a report of such actions with outrage. Abdel Malek Dahamshe said, "The ethical inferiority and lowliness that the settlers have reached is intolerable. This is an act of first-degree desecration of God's name." MK Tzvi Hendel responded, "If these primitive murderers stuff their brains with nonsense about Paradise and who-knows-how-many virgins waiting only for them, then they certainly believe in the other nonsense that being buried with pigskin blocks their way to Paradise."

(IsraelNationalNews.com)


"We stand for the constitutional right of Muslims and Americans of all faiths to build houses of worship anywhere in our nation as allowed by local laws and regulations...

If you have to follow local rules, regulations and laws, it is not your 'right' to build a building...It is your right to apply for a building permit...It is your right to follow zoning laws and building codes...Including a plan for the future demolition...If you are told no, it is your right to seek another location and ask permission to build there...
The Constitution does not say anything about the right to build buildings...

Notice how the above-mentioned Arab MKs are "outraged" by pig fat, but don't seem to be overly concerned by the true outrage of murdering anonymous innocents on a public bus?

People - try not to barf if you read the following CNN article, "Ramadan Road Trip":

http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/09/10/ramadan.roadtrip.folo/index.html?iref=obnetwork

I'm not even going to discuss the ludicrous comparisons to Rosa Parks.

The unadulterated arrogance of these muslim speakers who say things like ""Ground zero does not belong to a specific group of people or religion. Ground zero belongs to all Americans, and we all share the grief, we all share the healing." or ""Ground zero is all of ours," is absolutely vomit inducing.

It wasn't non-muslims who attacked the towers while screaming the name of Jesus, had it been and had the majority of victims been muslims then yes they would have a right to speak the above statements. But the reality is that muslims screaming "my god is greater than yours" were the perpetrators and almost all the victims were non-muslims, so NO, muslims don't have the same rights to Ground Zero. In fact they have less because they were the perpetrators, and the attacks haven't stopped since then and the supposed "moderates" are STILL reticent.

It is disgusting that they steal our pain and use it to gather sympathy for themselves and also attempt to inflict guilt on the real victims. Meanwhile these poor suffering muslims insist on building their "slap in the face" lie (because it is really about celebrating conquest) where we will never forget what their religion has done to us.

Sorry, I'm not buying the BS and neither should anyone else.
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Ron said.... "CAIR = brood of vipers"...no kidding, hooded eyes and all.

The following is an interesting discussion of the issue on Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp


According to some of the ulema over at Hamass, contamination by pig fat would not have any effect upon the dead murderer's entry into the mythical Jannat-Paradise.

Perhaps if all the "moderate" Moslems spend a fraction of the time they use telling all us Kuffar how much they condemn the mujahideen, and used some of that energy to correct their co-religionist's misconceptions about Jihad, we could all sleep easier.

"According to some of the ulema over at Hamass, contamination by pig fat would not have any effect upon the dead murderer's entry into the mythical Jannat-Paradise."

That would be easy to establish & discredit snopes as well. Obama can try parachuting pigs into Taliban areas and see how the muslim world reacts.
I kinda like the slogan: "A Pig For Osama From Obama".

If Rosa had gotten on the bus with a backpack full of TATP,nails,tacks and ball bearings peppered lovingly with rat poison,and detonated herself,to further her cause,I'd say that makes a little more sense.

Of course,she was civilized and didn't.

Reason,will convert them all,eventually.

It`s ok if the slogan goes the other way too.

"According to some of the ulema over at Hamass, contamination by pig fat would not have any effect upon the dead murderer's entry into the mythical Jannat-Paradise."

Being the ass of ham they would - one way of stopping pigs contaminating terrorists.
The muslims proudly claim that the Indian Mutiny was started on account of pork lard being used for bullets by the British. The Bengal Lancers (a predominantly muslim get-up) revolt was the death knell of the Muslim Zamindars and moghul empire.

If pork wasn't a problem Target wouldn't have to re-assign muslim check out clerks so they don't have to handle bacon, if it weren't a problem they wouldn't lobby schools and restraunts not to serve it.

It's a problem for them, no doubt.

I have been saying for a long time someone should go dig a pit and drop a pig in, roast it in the ground for about 2 days , that's good eatin' as we say here in the South! lol

It will be interesting to see how the black leaders take the comparison. (Not that I really want to see Sharpton running his mouth)But they really should pitch a fit about it.

The arrogance of Nihad Awad is absolutely breathtaking.

He says not to associate 9/11 with all Muslims.

But he's in favour of sharia law. That is, he's in favour of the ends which violent jihadists aspire to.

He's just a non-violent jihadist.

And he'll never come out and condemn Islamic terrorists. His disgusting organisation CAIR has links with Hamas - Hamas are of EXACTLY the same ilk, mentality and barbarity as the 9/11 jihadists. And yet he doesn't want all Muslims to be associated with such attacks even though he's clearly on their side. Imam Rauf is clearly of the same ilk and mentality as Hamas scum.

This man is a cunning snake and he's the enemy. No more CAIR and no more Islamic deviants in the US. Or the West for that matter.

"I have been saying for a long time someone should go dig a pit and drop a pig in, roast it in the ground for about 2 days , that's good eatin' as we say here in the South! lol"

Hahaha. Some chitlins for Charles Johnson & Obama next

Something like it has been out on Twitter for a few weeks:

1955: "You can sit on the bus, just not THERE." 2010: "You can build the mosque, just not THERE."

It's silly.

So insensitive is the Council on American-Islamic Relations to the plight of religious minorities in Muslim lands that they once responded to the brutal murder of three American missionary doctors in Yemen by implying that the humanitarians had it coming, since Christians are known to evangelize overseas. This is part of what makes their transparent ploy to co-opt the name of Rosa Parks so tasteless and offensive.

If CAIR wants to honor the legacy of Rosa Parks, then they might start by telling their Arab brothers in the Sudan to stop killing and raping people that look like her.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/RosaParksStunt.htm

Before CAIR gets too hung up on the idea that it is "keeping it real," it might do well to remember that on their website (right below the self-indulgent article on the scholarships) is a link that allows visitors to order religious materials that refer to black people as "Raisin-heads," "collectables," and "men of no descent" with hearts "grosser than a donkey." The Qur'an that CAIR promises to send out, along with the Hadiths, also talks of leaving an African to die if injured and provides a "how-to" manual on slavery that's been serving the Muslim world for 1400 years.

Beyond an unflattering description of black people, the Islamic religion proscribes third-class treatment for dhimmis - non-Muslims under Muslim rule. Dhimmitude is Jim Crow on steroids, complete with diminished legal status for minorities, segregation, constant intimidation… and a much higher stack of dead bodies. Islamists kill more "unbelievers" every ten months, in fact, than the entire number of black Americans lynched in the last 120 years combined.

‘Forced’ to be a Muslim.

This is a sad case of S Banggarma, who is fighting to reinstate and maintain her life as a Malaysian Indian of Hindu religion.
“Is this 1Malaysia, that I have no right to fight for myself? Why must I be forced to accept Islam? I have my own life,” she said.
http://sloone.wordpress.com/2010/08/04/forced-to-be-a-muslim/

Here’s Asra Nomani on the recent act of civil disobedience in Washington:

"Today, a mosque can’t tell a woman of color she has to sit separately because of her race, but it can banish her to a corner, as most do, because of her gender."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-02-27/let-these-women-pray/

But Rosa Parks did not have ties to terrorist organizations...

In a sane world, officials would tell the imams that if they’re upset about being taken off the plane, they should redouble their anti-terror efforts in the Muslim community in the U.S.—which are sorely deficient. They would ascribe their inconveniencing to the sacrifices that are incumbent upon all of us during wartime. But instead, they are compared to Rosa Parks.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18171

the link cerberus put up reminded of something that's been bothering me.


Cops taking their shoes off in a mosque...they aren't in their complete uniform and that is usually against policy,shoes are part of the uniform for good reason, what happens if they need to run? They would have to take time to go put shoes on waisting time.

I know it doesn't sound like a big deal but IMO it could be a problem.

"We stand for the constitutional right of Muslims and Americans of all faiths to build houses of worship anywhere in our nation as allowed by local laws and regulations," said the statement read by Al-Amin Latif, president of the Majlis Ash-Shura of New York, also known as the Islamic Leadership Council of Metropolitan New York, which represents 55 mosques and Muslim groups. "Also, we stand against the racism, hatred, religious intolerance and ethnic bigotry directed against Islam and American Muslims."...

When did mahoundian become a race, so that criticizing it equals "racism"? Furthermore, there is no bigotry in criticism of mahoundianism and sharia... Why would anyone want to allow the civilized lands of Dar al-Harb to become like "allah-blessed wonders" such as Cairo, Islamabad, Mogadishu, Karachi, Ankara, Arab-Occupied Constantinople, Kabul, Sanaa, Khartoum, Tripoli, Algiers, Damascus, not only in how they look, but also when it comes to how our notions of human rights are systematically and deliberately violated there, in the name of their child-molesting genocidal prophet pretender?

By the way, we sure would NEVER see mahoundian leaders openly condemning the real racism against blacks which is inherent to their political ideology masquerading as a religion, would we? So the comparison with Rosa Parks is not only inaccurate and bogus, it's just plain vomit-inducing.

"Cops taking their shoes off in a mosque..."

Here`s what the mosquitoes in Jakarta do:

"Police said the American entered the musholla without taking off his shoes and then unplugged the microphone being used to recite the Koran"
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/american-suspect-in-mosque-quarrel-claims-innocence/393900

Following a private meeting with Imam Fido Rowf, the Roverand Terry Bones held a press conference where he announced that he would continue with his plans to celebrate the Islamic feast of Eid by feasting on a Koran. “I’ve had a look at the Koran,” stated Bones, “and it appears kind of dry, so I figured I’d add some bacon or pork sausage. I mean, you can’t have a fatwa without ‘f-a-t’, right?” Jones continued, “I’m not against the Koran as a whole, in fact, I’ve book-marked some of my favorite parts…on a Persian rug!”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2586971/posts

You can buy in bulk pork gravy in powder form. Let them dig the foundation pit and have someone dump a 55 gallon tub of this powder into the pit from the building next door. A rainy day to spice it up. You can have individuals lob packets over the construction perimeter the size of cornhole beanbags that would burst and scatter their contents apon impact. Collect the clippings of dog groomers, black is a nice choice, and introduce it to the pit as a hairball loosey contained and launched by slingshot to unfold on impact. Someone with a tinker's bent needs to get working on a practical delivery method that can be shared. Start trying to source bulk pork gravy powder so you are ready. Restaurant wholesale suppliers, bulk distributors.

"We stand for the constitutional right of Muslims and Americans of all faiths to build houses of worship anywhere in our nation as allowed by local laws and regulations," said Al-Amin Latif - thanks to Obama made the same speech... then he says ..
"we stand against the racism, hatred, religious intolerance and ethnic bigotry directed against Islam and American Muslims."

Here he gets to the bottom of it ... all faiths = Islam and American MoSlums.

He did not mention Christians, Jews, Sikhs, Bhudists, Hindus and numerous others Americans. He careless about the non-religous groups that is a huge number of Americans, the gays are also excluded who face continuos barrage of intolerance and bigotry from the Islamists.....

Construction workers could buy McCormick's, or a generic brand of pork gravy packets. Open and scatter the powder thoughout the site and leave the empty packets in plain view. Pour the powder behind the drywall, introduce it into the spray-on insulation mix. Mix it into the paint. The contractors can earn the bucks and send the Imam a video from the contractors that painted the mosque. Dog hair in the walls, the subfloor. Dog feces, dried and powdered, if you can stand it. Grass dried and powdered when spot likes to lift his leg. Yellow snow collected in the winter time, delivered in a old thermos you would be willing to sacrifice for the cause.

That's interesting. Did they do anything to help the supporters of St. Nicholas Church, which was actually there on Sep. 11, 2001?

http://www.stnicholasnyc.com

The concrete delivery drivers could throw-in packets of pork gravy powder, yellow snow to the foundation mix. You don't need a massive quantity to make it haram. What's the fatwa on particulate count? It must be pristine?

Biff, I'm sitting here thinking about how hard I'd be laughing while dumping a 55 gallon tub of industrial-strength pork gravy powder into the GZM pit!

If it's not a supremacist building (and Rauf's statements and actions alone show that it is), why would CAIR be getting involved? - We already know for a fact that CAIR represent the muslim brotherhood and their agenda for infiltrating and destroying western civilisation from within.

http://www.amazon.com/Muslim-Mafia-Underworld-Conspiring-Islamize/dp/1935071106

And on and on it goes, I realise that some do not agree with the burning of any book, but this is is becoming a touch paper. I can imagine World war III starts with a book being burnt, it is bound to happen.


England: 2 men arrested for watching video of Koran burning

http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=25972

In a disturbing development, Northumbria Police in Gateshead last week arrested two men after they watched and shared a video on Facebook of a man burning the Koran in the US during the recent 9/11 commemoration at Ground Zero in New York.

The men were drinking in the Bugle pub, Leam Lane, Gateshead, when they were arrested after watching and sharing the videos.

Around 30 people staged a protest outside Gateshead police station on Wednesday evening, the 15th of September, following the arrests.

The group stood outside the doors to the police station with an England flag for about three hours watched by a contingent of uniformed officers.The protesters had gathered at around 8pm after the two men were arrested earlier in the day on ‘suspicion of inciting racial hatred’.

The protest continued until around 11pm when the two arrested men were bailed pending further enquiries.

Terror threat to Seattle cartoonist should draw response

The case of the Seattle cartoonist who used to be named Molly Norris makes me wonder: Shouldn't we be sturdier than this?

Danny Westneat

Seattle Times staff columnist

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/dannywestneat/2012937189_danny19.html

The case of the Seattle cartoonist who used to be named Molly Norris makes me wonder: Shouldn't we be sturdier than this?

Last week Norris made worldwide news, when it was announced she was "going ghost" because she had been put on an Islamic terror hit list.

"There is no more Molly," wrote the Seattle Weekly newspaper, where her cartoons once ran. "On the insistence of top security specialists at the FBI, she is ... moving, changing her name, and essentially wiping away her identity."

This news was bewildering. The FBI had insisted a U.S. citizen renounce her identity, all because some radical in Yemen doesn't like her art?

"He {Nihad Awad} said it was unfair to associate the planned community center or all Muslims with 9/11."--from the article, my brackets added.

That is misleading nonsense. Rauf has been associating the planned community center with 9/11 the whole time, in the context of claiming that the center, especially his Cordoba house portion of it, and the programming under his stewardship, will tackle extremism and prevent the next 9/11. Rauf et al. have chosen the location precisely because of its association with 9/11.

Veiled Venus
By Sher Khan

MohammadJamal al Din takes a deep breath before he finishes the last stitch. He is a tailor by profession and faced no problem making a burqa for this marble statue.The 61/2 ft tall sculptor was the most recognizable works of art from theancient world. The statue, with its elegantly twisted pose and missing armssymbolized the goddess of beauty and love. Former citizens of this country proudly named this beautiful lady,Venusde Milo. Current Islamic Government has decided to bring all statues of thiscountry in one place and blow them into pieces. Problem arose when Mullah officials noticed the graceful body of Venus is half-naked. They ordered Mohammad Jamal al Din to make a burqa and cover up the whole body ofVenusto ensure Muslims are not offended by seeing her unsheathed body while she is being moved.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/SherKhan40829.htm

"Asked Monday by an audience member whether they would condemn Hamas, those at the news conference declined to answer, saying they wanted to focus on the planned center."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/nyregion/21mosque.html

Imagine that.

Talk about a rogue's gallery of mosque supporters. Why didn't they invite Khaled Mashaal and Osama bin Laden while they were at it? They're Muslim leaders, too...
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GROUND ZERO MOSQUE BOYCOTT CAMPAIGN
http://groundzeromosqueboycott.wordpress.com/

"Islamic groups compare Ground Zero mosque to Rosa Parks"

For a moment, I visualized Rosa Parks as being 15 stories high. But after I corrected my momentary misunderstanding, I remembered Islam's belief that Adam - of Adam and Eve fame - was supposed to have been 90 feet tall! (60 cubits)

So, stretching a symbol - Rosa Parks - out of all recognition comes easily to idiots who believe that Adam was 90 feet tall. In fact, 'tall stories' are part of Islam's DNA. Such as: Muslims have only one intestine, non-Muslims have seven! So, what happens to the intestines when a Muslim renounces Islam, or a non-Muslim recites the Shahada? Do the intestines suddenly increase or reduce in number?

Islam is just plain daft. A child can see that.

(And is Yusef YK comes back at me and says: 'How do you know Adam wasn't 90 feet tall?', I would say, 'Think what size everything else in the Garden of Eden must've been, you clot.')

"Today, a mosque can’t tell a woman of color she has to sit separately because of her race, but it can banish her to a corner, as most do, because of her gender."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-02-27/let-these-women-pray/"

CAIR and its cronies better watch out. It would be interesting to see women and minorities push for Civil Rights in the framework of the Islamic world here in the US. It would be interesting to see more demonstrations by women against the men in the US Islamic world such that it undermines their attempts at bringing Sharia Law into play. Showing that its against the Constitution first and foremost, then show its against Human Rights, etc.

Amazing to me that the gracious and most merciful Allah wouldn't let his devoted followers into paradise if they got splattered with some bacon grease. This is as superstitious as Catholics who think that if they go get ashes on Ash Wednesday they can do whatever they want the rest of the time and they'll go to heaven. I'm Catholic and I know some of those folks. The difference is that those people are not numbered among the most devout Catholics while the Muslims who actually believe such superstitions seem to be considered the most devout in Islam.

Someone needs to harangue these guys until they admit that the islamic culture center will be exclusive to muslims only complete with all sharia law compliance... and explain what sharia means. If you get that, maybe the other 30% will come around to our side.

All good ideas, putting the pork gravy in the concrete of the foundation and slab would get it done.

@B It would be interesting if someone asked the "good" Imam what the dress code for the visitors to the mosque would be.
Would the people of other faiths have to take shoes off and don a veil?

"It would be interesting to see more demonstrations by women against the men in the US Islamic world such that it undermines their attempts at bringing Sharia Law into play. "

Happened in Ontario when the Provincial Liberal Party government under Dalton McGuinty tried to allow islamic shariah courts set up for civil purposes...

The muslim women of Ontario kicked up a giant stink...

McGuinty had to back off, and to be fair, dismantled the whole religious civil court apparatus... (I'm fine by that)

Ontario was considered a weak link in the legal structures of North America... Too bad for islam that the Liberals were quick on the politics and changed their mind...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Islamic_Congress#Sharia_tribunals

Sharia tribunals

The Canadian Islamic Congress supported recommendations by Marion Boyd that the government of Ontario permit sharia tribunals to which Muslims could voluntarily submit civil disputes and whose findings would then have legal weight under the Arbitration Act. The proposal was opposed by the Muslim Canadian Congress, the Canadian Council of Muslim Women and non-Muslim women's groups.[24][25] The provincial government ended up rejecting the proposal and scrapping existing religious arbitration tribunals for Jews and Christians in the process.[26]

The CIC raised controversy when CIC President Elmasry wrote that Canadian Muslims " [should] not to make a cause of publicly deriding their religion, badmouthing the Prophet, ridiculing the Qur'an and mounting uninformed crusades to smear their Islamic Law, the Shariah."[27]

In the aftermath, the Muslim Canadian Congress demanded that the CIC apologize for "false" accusations that those who criticize sharia are "smearing Islam, ridiculing the Koran [and] badmouthing Muhammad." The MCC stated that CIC President Elmasry accused the group of blasphemy, a crime that carries the death sentence in several Islamic countries, leading some MCC members to fear they will be arrested if they travel certain Islamic countries.."[27]

Arif Raza, MCC's lawyer wrote that "Your [Elmasry's] false and utterly irresponsible accusations of blasphemy have exposed these active, dynamic and prominent members of the Canadian Muslim community and their families to enormously dangerous consequences" and that "you [Elmasry] have defamed their good reputation and exposed them to ridicule and hatred within their own communities in Canada."[27]

Elmasry responded by stating that Islam has no punishment for denouncing the religion, its holy book or the Prophet Mohammed, and he dismissed as "nonsense" the notion that his words could be construed as a death sentence.[27]
[edit] Public funding of faith-based schools

The Congress expressed support for Ontario Progressive Conservative Party leader John Tory's proposal during the 2007 Ontario provincial election campaign to publicly fund faith-based schools arguing that rejecting the proposal would signify a retreat from multiculturalism.[28] The proposal, which was also supported by Jewish and some Christian groups, proved unpopular with the electorate and is cited as a key reason for the Conservative party's defeat in the election.

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Imam behind NYC Islamic center avoiding New York, getting protection over security concerns
The imam behind the proposed Islamic center and mosque near ground zero is largely avoiding New York City because of security concerns and is receiving protection from the New York Police Department, according to those close to the imam.

"There's just a lot of crazies and that's why he has police protection from the NYPD," the Rev. James Parks Morton said Monday of his friend Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.

"I know that he's being guarded, that he's not been staying in the usual places, that he's not working from his office and that he's concerned for his safety," said another friend of the imam's, Rabbi J. Rolando Matalon, in an interview Sunday night.

"He's staying in an undisclosed location, as they call it," said Matalon, a rabbi at B'nai Jeshurun on New York's Upper West Side.

The New York City Police Department did not respond to requests for comment.

Asked whether the FBI was investigating threats against Rauf, New York field office spokesman Bob Margolin declined to comment.

A media representative for Rauf, Seth Faison, would not comment on any security concerns.

Morton, former dean of New York's Cathedral of St. John the Divine, said the imam was mostly avoiding New York, where he typically works, since returning from a State Department trip to the Middle East two weeks ago.

Morton has known Rauf and his family since the 1960s and works in the same office building as Rauf on Manhattan's Upper West Side.

Rauf did not attend a Monday morning press conference at Park51, the site of the proposed Islamic center. Zaheer Uddin, Executive Director of the Islamic Leadership Council of New York, said security concerns kept the imam away.

Another Rauf associate, Chloe Breyer, said the imam skipped a New York board meeting of her group, the Interfaith Center of New York, on Thursday. Rauf is a vice chair on center's board.

"He is laying low," Breyer said of Rauf Monday. "He isn't coming into New York."

Rauf was traveling in the Middle East on a U.S. State Department sponsored trip for much of August, returning to the U.S. on September 5.

He appeared at the Council of Foreign Relations in New York last Monday for a speech and question-and-answer session about the controversy over his proposed Islamic center.

Saying America has let extremists "hijack the agenda," the imam said at the forum that he wants to create a platform where the voice of moderate Muslims can be amplified.

"We come together at a time of great crisis and danger," he said. "What began as a dispute over a community center in lower Manhattan has spawned and grown into a much larger controversy about the relationship between my beloved religion and my beloved country, between Islam and America."

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/20/imam-behind-nyc-islamic-center-avoiding-new-york-getting-protection-over-security-concerns/?hpt=T2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Boyd

btw... Notice that it's a Communist (NDP) who thought Sharia is a good idea... A woman at that too...

This is America's ground therefore it would be INSULTING build this mosque there. They don't get it! When is the next protest against this victory mosque?

I am not giving up this fight! I don't care if everyone else hides in their houses knowing the truth but afraid to speak out because of fear. They are afraid of the threat of violence and being labeled racist!

I know the truth in my heart, I am not affraid.'

When I went to both protest at ground zero against this mosque, everyone of my friends from the LIBERAL LEFT to the FAR RIGHT said to me, "be careful,we hope there is not going to be any suicide bombers." They would tell me that I was putting myself in danger and to "just stay home with the kids and go to soccer games." Wow! I guess they won't learn until the streets of our financial district and sacred ground are lined with waves of women wearing Burqas and hearing the call to prayer when we go to our jobs and visit this sacred site. When we are no longer welcome at that site, when the saudis own all the building down there and we won't recognize or own our country anymore. THen, they will say, "What happened?" I guess this was all going on when they weren't looking or paying attention. I am scared that OUR culture as we know it will be unrecognizable.

'2 men arrested in England for watching video of koran burning'. This again illustrates only too clearly the stranglehold PC bollocks has in the UK. It may be too late for us, (I really hope not, the EDL is a beacon of hope, and I'm talking to more people who are beginning to question the 'tenets' of islam) but it's not too late for America. Jihad Watch has educated me immeasurably - from angry feelings of unfairness, and feeling my country has nearly been taken over, I've moved on to actually being able to cite examples of islamic dictatorship and terrorism in discussion, and have gone to other sites also to educate myself. So cheers to Jihad Watch, and its posters.

I just say there should be no mosques in the US. That would solve the problem.

As one insightful contributor here said some time ago...

"Make every mosque in America a Krav Maga training center for women."

I agree.

Good for you, Jan! When I first came to Jihad Watch in 2003 I wanted to do something but had no idea where to start. Then I got involved with reading and writing and thinking out loud here and other people did too and we shared ideas and we connected. And now there is this big network across the U.S. and overseas with people who think like I do and who oppose the nonsensical idea that we will trade our freedom for Sharia law because we will be force to. The hell you say.

Jihad Watch is my touchstone and a reality check when the Muslims in our midst spew their crap and paint their pictures of widespread abuse. I look for that every day and it's non-existent. It's nice to have an anchor in a sea of lies.

I'm glad you are here. : )

This is the sort of stuff that really bugs me; newcomers taking advantage of their host country's solution as to how to get along with its main minority (and when one said "minorities" in the past, there were a lot fewer minorities around, no matter what country you were talking about - rather than the present situation, where the US and Canada have about a million "minority" groups all together.)

Rosa Parks, and the Civil Rights Movement that rallied around her, was a made-in-America, no-one's business but the Americans type of deal, that grew out of their own history (the civil rights era being a kind of delayed backlash against the Jim Crow days, which were themselves a result of the fear of a "minority" getting too big and powerful after slavery was abolished in the US, etc). Affirmative action, civil rights, etc, were really only meant for American Blacks so that the two main components of American society - whites and blacks - could get along a bit better, and hopefully drop any historical bitterness between the two. Whether it worked or not is a different and irrelevant matter as far as this post is concerned.

In Canada, our main "minority" was historically the First Nations types, the aboriginals. They and the various governments of Canada have agreements based on historical treaties that are still legally valid. Disagreements often crop up about the details of some of those treaties, or about what the implications of them are, but again, it's a domestic issue that has to do with our country's history.

Then along come Muslims and such, who see the "special treatment" that these historical minority groups get, and think that it should apply to them, too - and to hell with the history behind it all. And of course, white guilt takes over, and of course the new complainants get included. The select minority group will often stand by the new group, united in their victimization, whether real or imagined.

And the measures that were put in place to protect one minority gets abused, until you want to just junk the whole damn thing because it's all gotten just too damn ridiculous.

Am I the only one who sees this, or sees the problem with people claiming things they have no right to, or is it just me?

Ta for that Isabella. I replied on another thread ( the video showing Mahdi Bray (or whatever his name is) extolling the wonders of Hamas) to a moronic comment from that idiot calling himself Islamic Empire, so I'm starting to feel my way around the computer now and feel a bit more confident about posting and replying. (total Luddite I'm afraid ). There is so much on JW that it's hard to keep up with, which is yet more terrifying evidence of what is going on, and the WILFUL blindness of most of the west's leaders, and the msm. It must be wilful, right ? I mean, they can't really want to just let western civilisation be destroyed - or are they so shortsighted and stupid that all they can see is the potential muslim vote ? I really don't understand it - at least France seems to be waking up a bit - I wish the UK would.

"You can buy in bulk pork gravy in powder form."

No need even to go to that trouble. The fanatical Obsessive-Compulsion Disorder of Muslims with regard to substances haram & halal leads them to find Jello pudding powder or nail polish from a drug store, or 1,001 other ordinary products, equally abhorrent.

We have at our disposal a vast and complex pharmacy of weapons to use against them, and we have yet to take advantage of it. It would be infinitely easier to repel a horde of Mohammedans than it would zombies, vampires, or wolfmen (each of which require far more specific repellants).

http://www.nfb.ca/film/encounter_with_saul_alinsky/
Encounter with Saul Alinsky - Part 2: Rama Indian Reserve

If you haven't seen it, your welcome...

And I just read something up above that reminded me of Ontario, where yes, Roman Catholics had their own, separate but mostly publicly-funded schools (full funding to grade 12 came along in the 1980s, iirc). However, that "special treatment" also has unique historical conditions to it, resulting from the agreements and guarantees the British promised to the French following the battle on the Plains of Abraham.

I forgot about this, because I fail at thinking of French-Canadians as a "minority" in the modern sense of the word. But same thing applies - this is another historical agreement between two peoples in dispute over the same land, so that they wouldn't have to fight any more. Of course, any Roman Catholic (or anyone else, really) can be enrolled in an Ontario Separate School that was set up specifically with the French in mind - but it doesn't mean the Ontario government has to set up school boards and such for EVERY religion that wishes to set up schools. But some want to think that it should, of course, just because the Catholics have it, and again, to hell with the historical reasons as to WHY they have it.

Exceptions to rules might be OK sometimes, but they sure can open a bad can of worms if too many people start wanting them.


"Ground zero is all of ours," said Nihad Awad, the executive director of the [Hamas-linked] Council on American-Islamic Relations. "Ground zero does not belong to a specific group of people or religion."

Then why would you support the construction of a structure at Ground Zero that belongs to a specific group of people or religion???

Nihad Awad is a lame, witless joke...
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GROUND ZERO MOSQUE BOYCOTT CAMPAIGN
http://groundzeromosqueboycott.wordpress.com/

I think you are absolutely right, as far as the US and Canada go. The comparison with Rosa Parks is not only stupid, but offensive in the extreme. Rosa Parkes was a courageous woman who stood up for her rights peacefully, and in public - she didn't try to hide what she wanted, and neither did the civil rights movement. And Rosa didn't strap a rucksack full of explosives on her back, sit on a crowded bus, and detonate herself. Islamists will use absolutely ANYTHING they can to get what they want. I take the point of what you say about them hijacking (pun not intended!)legislation to protect historical indiginous peoples, but that's just an example of their tactics. However in Europe, where they can't invoke icons like Rosa Parkes, or Chief Dan George, they use other tactics. Like I said, they will use anything to get their way and reach their goal. But they are not going to win.

Commentary on some of the comments above:

I have heard some pretty wild analogies in my time; but the above-mentioned comparison of the potential mosque and Rosa Parks takes the proverbial cake.

I'm not even going to discuss the ludicrous comparisons to Rosa Parks.

It's not all that wild or ludicrous. Our non-Muslim PC MC culture -- which I remind the readers remains dominant and mainstream -- has been more or less making this equation for years now: it probably pre-dates 911, but 911 and the increasing verbal and physical violence perpetrated by Muslims after 911 have, paradoxically (but logically), caused our PC MC culture to strengthen the idea of Muslims as a collective Ethnicity that require "respect", deference, defense, and privileges.

Remember that it was talking airhead Contessa Brewer of MSNBC who compared the aggrieved Muslims-du-jour (the day being November 22, 2006, I believe) -- the "flying imams" who were forced to disembark from a plane -- to Rosa Parks.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/11/msnbcs-contessa-brewer-compares-imams-taken-off-airplane-to-rosa-parks.html

It's also interesting that Imam Mahdi Bray who made this latest Rosa Parks comparison is himself a Southern redneck good ole boy who some years ago had a brain aneurysm and reverted to Islam.

It will be interesting to see how the black leaders take the comparison. (Not that I really want to see Sharpton running his mouth)But they really should pitch a fit about it.

I have seen little indication to date that any blacks are upset by the horning in of Muslims onto the Privileged Ethnicity stage. Indeed, since 911, it seems that Muslims have elbowed blacks off from their former #1 position on that stage; but so far, mostly what I have seen from black leaders or pundits is a kind of ethnic camaraderie (even if behind closed doors some of them might refer to Muslims with the N word and "sand").

Thus, another commenter above, after quoting --

"Also, we stand against the racism, hatred, religious intolerance and ethnic bigotry directed against Islam and American Muslims."

-- asks:

When did mahoundian become a race, so that criticizing it equals "racism"?

As I indicated, Muslim has effectively become an ethnicity -- and not merely one ethnicity among others, but the Most Privileged Ethnicity of all. In the paradigm of PC MC, Muslims have become the New Jews and the New Blacks.

Over a year ago, I wrote an analysis of this phenomenon:

The Muslim: The New Black and the New Jew

I HATE HATE CRIMES - THAT IS WHY I HATE THE MUSLIM BIBLE (THE KORAN).
That bible is full of god-sanctioned crimes against Jews and Christians and Pagans, and even Muslim women because they are inferior to men in every way. The Koran itself is a Hate Crime! It advocated lots of hate crimes clearly - so why doesn't anyone point this out? Because anyone who does stand a damn good chance of ending up on a Muslim's hit list. That is the only reason the Muslims are doing so well against us. Because we are afraid to be murdered - think I'm kidding? Think about it please!

I HATE HATE CRIMES - THAT IS WHY I HATE THE MUSLIM BIBLE (THE KORAN).
That bible is full of god-sanctioned crimes against Jews and Christians and Pagans, and even Muslim women because they are inferior to men in every way. The Koran itself is a Hate Crime! It advocated lots of hate crimes clearly - so why doesn't anyone point this out? Because anyone who does stand a damn good chance of ending up on a Muslim's hit list. That is the only reason the Muslims are doing so well against us. Because we are afraid to be murdered - think I'm kidding? Think about it please!

What an insult to Rosa Parks.

Meanwhile the Infidels are shuffled to the back of the bus.

I'm sorry Mr.Awad ,but at least those white American bigots you smear finally allowed Rosa to sit at the front of the bus.
But under Shariah at the GZ Mosque Rosa Parks will be forced by Muhammed's Misogyn to sit at the back of the Mosque as a semi-non human un equal to any colour male Muslim.
So islam just might attract those bigot that want non-white females to sit at the back of the Mosque as lesser Humans to make them feel superior.
Shame on CAIR for throwing Rosa Parks under the same Bus that the White Americans ceded to let her sit at the front.
CAIR wants her off the Bus period as a non-Muslim and then if she does visit the GZ Mosque it's "Move to the back temptress sinner dog".

BTW
The verbal abuse towards females on TV by CAIR reps
is more than enough evidence to expose their faux-veneer or Human Rights when beneath those Public rants at females it begs the question for how Hooper and Awad treat females when the Media isn't there to hear it.
You can tell what a tree is by the fruit it bares no matter how much Faux-bark you wrap around the torso to fool people,so give it up CAIR because 5'500'000'000 non-Muslims are tired of fearing for their lives because of a few Misunderstanders of islam that Muslims give a tacit approval for the Jihad by their deafening silence to actually condemn the Muslims killing god's children as a favour to Allah.

There's a better Montgomery bus protester than Rosa Parks with whom to compare imam Rauf. A few weeks before Parks was arrested there was another black woman who refused to move to the back of the bus. But instead of responding to the police peacefully and with dignity like Parks, this woman reacted with threats and rants, spewing m-f's at all around her, and was removed from the bus kicking and cursing. Needless to say, this incident never made the national news. Even more than 50 years ago, the MSM was slanting the news.

Actural burying the pig head willnot stop the mosque from being built. Than muslim can handle pork it the needed arrive. I chech with Religious scholar that said too many muslim donot know they religion. What say you are sleeping than you say three time I divorse thee, well religious scholar rule that you didnot divorse your wife. What you say in your dream arenot valid action as you are in than other state of mind. I can take cought medine that have achol in it, since it is apart of medince it is allow.

Jan said "I've moved on to actually being able to cite examples of islamic dictatorship and terrorism in discussion, and have gone to other sites also to educate myself. So cheers to Jihad Watch, and its posters."

I found this website by looking for more information with regards to the Ground Zero Mosque. This issue was also my wake up call. I was familiar with things like the Wahabbi sect of Islam after 9/11. I didn't realize the snow job the news media had been doing on us with regards to Islam. I do now.

As I mentioned elsewhere, its not just enough to come here and educate yourself about Islam. You need to become an activist in your local area to educate people about the dangers of Islam.

Consider approaching your local school or church for a place to give a speech about Islam and the dangers we face. Be prepared for counter arguments and know how to refute them. Show that we are not against Muslim people, just Islam and its Sharia Laws. Explain why Sharia Law is bad. Examples to cite, Iran and Saudi Arabia for countries that have instituted it, and explain why Sharia Law is directly opposite of the principles of the Constitution and Human Rights.

The more you spread the word locally, the more people will know about Islam and its danger. When the PC crowd tries to pull its crap with regards to Islam or Muslims attempt to setup a mosque in the local area, more people will be educated and know how to handle it. Also they will know they are not alone in feeling this way.

I would love to see a place specifically setup to distribute material that could be downloaded and printed up. One of the best things I've seen is the video "Three things you should know about Islam". Its quick and easy to understand for those not really literate about Islam. Something like that should be made for us to present to people. Another sheet could be printed up with common responses from people who think they know what Islam is about (the pc version).

Are you one of those people who falls for the" tell a big lie often enough and everyone will believe it.? Your last post about Rosa Parks makes it seem so.

The Ground Zero mosque has nothing to do with Rosa Parks, neither do the "flying imams" , no matter how much anyone tries to twist the truth and no matter how long they have been doing it.

As I said before, ludicrous.

According to Christopher Hitchens,'A huge number of liberals have already decided that in some way Muslims constitute a race of their own,or at any rate that criticism of their religion can be construed as "racist".'He
predicts 'that liberals will regret handing Muslims such a handy alibi for any criticism of their faith.'

B -

try the Citizen Warrior website, which is run by a Jihadwatch 'graduate'. (There are quite a few of those).

http://www.citizenwarrior.com/

It's full of great ideas. It's specifically devoted to the 'what do I do next and how do I do it?' question which begins to nag at you, once you have spent a sufficient amount of time at Mr Spencer's 'Virtual Hedge School for the Resistance to Jihad and Sharia'.

And you can download a nice PDF leaflet here. Read this page first:

http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1435&Itemid=71a.org

and then click on the embedded link:


http://www.islammonitor.org/uploads/docs/aimbrochure.pdf

Written by Australians for Australian jihadwatchers, but none the less, it's short, sharp, covers the main points, looks nice, and can be printed off in bulk to keep in your handbag, briefcase, desk drawer at work, back pocket, etc, all ready to give to people.

Full marks to the posters above who have observed how bizarre it is for Muslim supremacists - who intend, actually as well as figuratively, to push all non-Muslims to the back of the bus - to try to pretend that *they* are the Rosa Parks of the 21st century.

Cerberus for example, pointed out the fact that Muslims - especially Arab Muslims - have historically despised and looked down upon black people. Indeed, at the core of Islam is an Arab supremacism not unlike Hitler's Aryan supremacism. All Muslims are supposedly 'brothers'...but the Arab 'brothers' regard themselves as superior to everybody else.

When Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is Somali, attended a primary school in Saudi Arabia, she was beaten and called 'slave' by her Arab Muslim teacher.

"...real school in Saudi Arabia was just like madrassah. We studied only Arabic, math, and the Quran, and the Quran must have taken up four-fifths of our time...

"The teacher was an Egyptian woman and she used to beat me. I was sure she picked on me because I was the only black child. When she hit me with a ruler she called me Aswad Abda - 'black slave'. I hated Saudi Arabia". (Infidel, chapter 3, p. 49 of the paperback edition).

And myy4u, above, also drew attention to the institutionalised lower status that sharia imposes on women and on non-Muslims.

"under Shariah at the GZ Mosque Rosa Parks will be forced by Muhammed's Misogyny to sit at the back of the Mosque as a semi-non human un equal to any colour male Muslim.


C"AIR wants her off the Bus period as a non-Muslim and then if she does visit the GZ Mosque it's "Move to the back temptress sinner dog".

Being a dhimmi, a member of a non-Muslim minority group in a Muslim society, was and is far, far worse than being a black American in the deep south in the era of Jim Crow, worse than being a black Australian living under the 'Aborigines Protection Act' in the late 19th/ early 20th century, and worse than being a black in South Africa in the apartheid era.

This fact - which can be abundantly demonstrated from the Muslim texts and from documented atrocious Muslim conduct toward non-Muslims, both past and present - makes absolute nonsense of any Muslim pretense to be poor little persecuted victims just looking for a fair go.

Here's just one little Hadith, from Sahih Muslim, one of the most authoritative Hadith collections, that acts as a sort of template for Muslim bullying and trampling upon non-Muslims in Muslim societies:

"Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said,
- Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and Christians, **and if you meet any of them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley** {my emphasis - dda}."

Now: the principle, and the attitude, involved in telling Muslims to force dhimmis into the narrowest part of the road, looks awfully like the principle involved in making blacks sit at the back of the bus.

Here's one translation of the legendary Pact of Omar, archetype of the elaborate system of discriminatory laws that were worked out, by Muslim jurists and rulers, for the deliberate humiliation and degradation and suppression of non-Muslims within states ruled by Muslims.

Note that it is couched in the first person plural, to produce the impression of the dhimmis voluntarily humiliating themselves...but just think of it as having been written with a scimitar at their throats, at the dictation of the Muslim gang lords.

From Ibn Kathir, the Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Riyadh, 2000; vol 4, pages 404-407; interpretation of Quran 9: 29. Reproduced in Legacy of Jihad, pages 128-130}.

'Paying Jizyah is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace 

Allah said,

﴿حَتَّى يُعْطُواْ الْجِزْيَةَ﴾

(until they pay the Jizyah), if they do not choose to embrace Islam,

﴿عَن يَدٍ﴾

(with willing submission), in defeat and subservience,

﴿وَهُمْ صَـغِرُونَ﴾

(and feel themselves subdued.), disgraced, humiliated and belittled.

**Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of Dhimmah or elevate them above Muslims, for they are miserable, disgraced and humiliated.({my emphasis - dda}

Muslim recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet said,

«لَا تَبْدَءُوا الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى بِالسَّلَامِ، وَإِذَا لَقِيتُمْ أَحَدَهُمْ فِي طَرِيقٍ فَاضْطَرُّوهُ إِلَى أَضْيَقِه»


(Do not initiate the Salam to the Jews and Christians, and if you meet any of them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.)

'This is why the Leader of the faithful `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, demanded his well-known conditions be met by the Christians,

' these conditions that ensured their continued humiliation, degradation and disgrace.

'The scholars of Hadith narrated from `Abdur-Rahman bin Ghanm Al-Ash`ari that he said, "I recorded for `Umar bin Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, the terms of the treaty of peace he conducted with the Christians of Ash-Sham [THAT IS: the Byzantine Christians of formerly Byzantine ‘Palestine’, the Land of Israel - dda]:

`In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. This is a document to the servant of Allah `Umar, the Leader of the faithful, from the Christians of such and such city.
When you (Muslims) came to us we requested safety for ourselves, children, property and followers of our religion.

'We made a condition on ourselves that

'we will neither erect in our areas a monastery, church, or a sanctuary for a monk, nor restore any place of worship that needs restoration nor use any of them for the purpose of enmity against Muslims.

'We will not prevent any Muslim from resting in our churches whether they come by day or night, and we will open the doors (of our houses of worship) for the wayfarer and passerby.

'Those Muslims who come as guests, will enjoy boarding and food for three days.

'We will not allow a spy against Muslims into our churches and homes or hide deceit (or betrayal) against Muslims.

'We will not teach our children the Qur'an,
publicize practices of Shirk,
invite anyone to Shirk
or prevent any of our fellows from embracing Islam, if they choose to do so.

'We will respect Muslims, **move from the places we sit in if they choose to sit in them**
{nota bene, everyone: Jim Crow-style rules for dhimmis! - dda}

'We will not imitate their clothing, caps, turbans, sandals, hairstyles, speech, nicknames and title names,

'or ride on saddles, {note: dhimmis were not allowed to ride horses; they were only allowed to ride on donkeys - dda}

'hang swords on the shoulders, collect weapons of any kind or carry these weapons.

{Nota bene: dhimmis were not allowed to keep or bear arms - dda}.

'We will not encrypt our stamps in Arabic, or sell liquor.

'We will have the front of our hair cut, wear our customary clothes {i.e. humiliating garments so that Muslims may know whom to attack! - dda}.
wherever we are,
wear belts around our waist,

'refrain from erecting crosses on the outside of our churches

'and demonstrating them and our books in public in Muslim fairways and markets.

'We will not sound the bells in our churches, except discretely,
or raise our voices while reciting our holy books inside our churches in the presence of Muslims,

nor raise our voices (with prayer) at our funerals,

or light torches in funeral processions in the fairways of Muslims, or their markets.

'We will not bury our dead next to Muslim dead {note: segregation, even after death - dda}, or buy servants who were captured by Muslims.

'We will be guides for Muslims and refrain from breaching their privacy in their homes.”

{note : Muslims could invite themselves into a dhimmi’s house or church, but dhimmis are forbidden to enter a Muslim’s house: this is a revolting breach of the principle of reciprocity - dda}.

'When I gave this document to `Umar, he added to it, “We will not beat any Muslim”.

{Note - this proviso 'we will not beat (in other translations, it says 'strike') any Muslim' is unconditional; it deprives the dhimmi of all right of self-defence; if **attacked** by a Muslim, the dhimmi had NO right to use force either to resist or to retaliate - dda}.

'These are the conditions that we set against ourselves and followers of our religion in return for safety and protection.

'If we break any of these promises that we set for your benefit against ourselves, then our Dhimmah (promise of protection) is broken and you are allowed to do with us what you are allowed of people of defiance and rebellion.'''

Here are some of the discriminatory Rules for Dhimmis, as given by the 'Reliance of the Traveller':

"o11.5
'...non-Muslim subjects are obliged to comply with Islamic rules that pertain to the safety and indemnity of life, reputation, and property.

'In addition, they:

'(1) are penalized for committing adultery or theft, though not for drunkenness;


'(2) are distinguished from Muslims in dress, wearing a wide cloth belt (zunnar);

'(3) are not greeted with “as-Salamu alaykum”;

**(4) must keep to the side of the street;** {my emphasis - dda. In other words, Muslims have been doing the equivalent of forcing people to sit at the back of the bus, for centuries}.

'
(5) may not build higher than or as high as the Muslims’ buildings, though if they acquire a tall house, it is not razed;

{Got that,everyone? - dhimmis are not allowed to build any building higher than the lowest building occupied by a Muslim - dda}.

'(6) are forbidden to openly display wine or pork,

'(A: to ring church bells or display crosses,)
'recite the Torah or Evangel aloud,

'or make public display of their funerals and feast-days {nota bene - there goes Mardi Gras, if Europe is Islamified - dda};


''(7) and are forbidden to build new churches."

And this business of 'pushing to the narrowest part of the road' is not a dusty fossil.

Muslims **do it today**.

A neighbour of mine, in the local shopping centre (mall) [I live in Australia] had the experience of having a group of Muslim women deliberately walk straight at her, such that she had to jump out of the way to avoid a collision.

And in the jihadwatch archives, an Australian poster described a similar experience:

"...**I was at a strip mall and a muslim pushed me aside saying "Get out of my way you filthy kuffir".** {my emphasis - dda}

'I couldn't believe it!This kid was all of 17 years old!I managed to keep myself under control,but I thought to myself 'and they call me a racist islamaphobe!'.

'It's almost unbelievable that his behavior is acceptable in todays pc environment but had I responded to it,I would be the fellow on my way to jail.

'What a country. 
Slightly off topic I realize but had to get it off my chest.P

'lease remember this though, How to tell if a muslim is lying....His mouth is open!"
- Posted by: retribution_11 at November 6, 2007 1:03 PM

And from the UK, here is what our late friend Dominic Tabrar-Synge, who posted - brilliantly - as necessitasnonhabetlegem - experienced in the London Underground. He shared it in the comments to this article -

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/12/culture-clash-in-denmark.html

necessitasnonhabetlegem | December 31, 2006 11:14 PM
Hugh/

'I could not agree more with your last post if I tried. Yes, of course, moslems are an alien body in our midst. Every day in London - on the tube, in shops, in parks, whilst shopping, whilst going about the 101 tasks that make up an average life - this is borne in on me.

'In London today moslems dress differently, are rude to locals, jump queues, shout at us, wave their fists at us, call us 'worthless infidel' in public and in loud voices.

'**I have, just four days ago, been elbowed aside by a moslem couple, with sidekicks, whilst trying to top up my Oyster card at a tube station at the automatic machine.** {my emphasis - dda}

'Apparently, I had taken longer than the ten seconds that they were prepared to wait and so three burly males forced me aside and, when I objected, pushed me to the floor and - quite literally - and took over the machine which I was attempting to use.

'Not, in a crowded and impatient city like London that this was a surprise, but that in this instance that I was insulted by these people was a surprise.

'The eldest male in the group, dressed in the usual and ridiculous garb of mohammedans everywhere, looked directly at me amd said, in quite clear English, (and I quote verbatim) "Get out of our way infidel slave".

{Got that, everybody? This is an Englishman born and bred, and in his own country, in the magnificent London Underground that his own people created, he was shoved aside by Muslim bullies who openly told him - GET OUT OF OUR WAY, INFIDEL SLAVE! - dda}.

'You may imagine how I felt at that moment. To be so insulted in my own capital city was stunning. It took all my self-control not to do something rash at that moment.

'Knowing that CCTV cameras would have captured this incident I complained, some three hours later (after having completed my journey and return), to the British Transport Police on the Broadway.

' I need not have bothered.

'Not only would no-one there take my complaint of 'technical assault and insult' seriously but no-one to whom I spoke was even prepared to initiate any paperwork whatsoever nor were they remotely prepared to find and look at the video recordings.

'Indeed, one Officer even said to me that I 'should swallow my pride' and live with it because - and, once again, I quote verbatim 'you are just being racist and you have to remember that it's cultural with them'.

'Obviously, at this point, I indicated that I felt that I had been physically assaulted and that I would really like to have my complaint investigated.

' Well, this is really where everything about that evening begins to stick in my craw.

'When I said that, the Officer of the BTP who was listening to me actually cautioned me and warned me that if I persisted with making a nuisance of myself I would be charged under the The Race Relations Act 1976 and the RRAA (Race Relations (Amendment) Act) 2000.

'I gave up at this point. Cowardice is sometimes the better part of valour. But, damn it, they won, didn't they?

'I have been intimidated into a dhimmi position by them and the very powers which should have protected me in my own country.

"Happy New Year everyone", I say in a bitter tone of voice.
- Dominic.
END.

(I can only add that, had Dominic lived rather than dying tragically in a car accident in April 2007, I can bet my bottom dollar that - academic, archaeologist, devout, patriotic and cultured Anglo-Catholic that he was - he would have been marching today right in the front ranks of the Gay & Lesbian Devision of the EDL ).

whenpigsfly,

You confuse what I might think, with what I am diagnosing about the PC MC and what PC MCs think. I've noticed commenters here have made more or less the same mistake several times now. It does not bode well for the elementary comprehension and reading skills of the still inchoate anti-Islam movement's membership.


Hi, just for the record... my ID name is I am Too whise for you...ergo. I m yy 4 u .

No big deal but it may infer it is immy 4 u as if I meant Jimmy 4 u .


Nice to see that the Quran and Islamic veneer of Taqiyyah is under a microscope to see exactly what the tenets are no matter what Fibrihim and Nihad spew on MSM TV dhimmi hosts.
I'm still waiting for just 1 muslim to give me 1 example of a Christian citing verses or directive from Jesus to murder people in his name as a favour to God.
Many bad people can have a basic level or a foot in some version of a faith handed down to them in the family,but the Quran comes befor being a Muslim as to follow the book and verses alleged to be from God via a angry Orphan that heard voices in his head that HE was the Special-one.

BTW
Nice to see Bill Clinton finally admit the 9/11 hijacker were Muslims that died that day and deserve the Victory GZ Mosque for their Martyrdome.
Slick willy said that "Muslims" died on 9/11, yes Bill they did because Planes don't have Airbags or bumpers to protect them during a full-throttle slam into a office tower.
These Jihadists put the SLAM in islam, while Imam Rauf puts the MAD in MuhamMAD.

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