And he held up a copy of the Qur'an, which should have been a cue to every "moderate" Muslim leader in the U.S., from Feisal Abdul Rauf to Honest Ibe Hooper, Brave Ahmed Rehab, Salam al-Marayati and the rest of the rogue's gallery to explain how Ahmadinejad, with his vicious antisemitism and genocidal aspirations, is actually a Misunderstander of the Religion of Peace™. Yet so far, nothing but silence from those quarters.
"US walks out on Ahmadinejad UN speech," from AP, September 23 (thanks to Darcy):
UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- The U.S. delegation has walked out of the U.N. speech of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after he said some in the world have speculated that Americans were actually behind the Sept. 11 terror attacks, staged in an attempt to assure Israel's survival....The Iranian leader spoke of threats to burn the Quran by U.S. religious groups, calling that an act of "evil." He held up a copy of the Muslim holy book, saying "the truth cannot be burned."
The Wall Street Journal's Bret Stephens had a good and scary article this week in which he describes Ahmadinejad's breakfast interview with New York's media mavens. He concludes that Ahmadinejad was the smartest one in the room.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703860104575507961881959510.html?KEYWORDS=Ahmadinejad
Is that one of the bibles your security forces burned, Mr Ahmedinejad?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/iranian-security-forces-burn-hundreds-of-bibles-christians-riot----no-wait.html#comments
Ahmadinejad is not stupid, he is just depraved...There is no particular reason to sit there listening to a depraved man spout off his depravity...The US delegation was right in walking out...The general assembly was wrong in applauding the depravity...But this is the UN so applauding depravity is expected...
He held up a Bible, but in his left hand. One can't help but think of the symbolism of that hand where he's coming from. Hence no southpaw Qur'an-handling.
Here is the statement made by Mark Kornblau, spokesman for the U.S. Mission to the UN.
"Rather than representing the aspirations and goodwill of the Iranian people, Mr. Ahmadinejad has yet again chosen to spout vile conspiracy theories and anti-Semitic slurs that are as abhorrent and delusional as they are predictable."
http://usun.state.gov/briefing/statements/2010/147821.htm
Surprising that a modern U.S. diplomat would talk like that. Our President almost assuredly never would.
With the "feather" of a dear leader we currently have in the U.S. it's no wonder guys like Adolf Jr. are further encouraged to do what they want. He knows Barry will always be there, faithfully "holding the door open" for him, encouraging, pleading.
A good portion of the UN has been in many ways marginalized by the OIC with its block of 56 countries of which nearly 96 Percent of them are ruled by dictators. Many of these countries sit on the UNHR of which our leftist President sent off his list of Human Rights violations that included the actions of the State of New Mexico and it determination to protect its borders under SB 1070.
Is it any wonder that so many Countries in the UN applauded the conspiratorial ramblings Mahmoud Ahmadinejad just a little over 3 miles from ground zero.
What countries cheered?
"He held up a copy of the Muslim holy book, saying "the truth cannot be burned."
Well, here's the problem with that, Mr. Rat-Faced Dictator - the Koran ain't "truth."
"The Koran is a 1400-year-old lie." - Pastor Terry Jones
About which he's totally correct.
What countries cheered?
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I don't know, but I'd like to see a list.
OMG!!! he held a bible with his left hand. Sacrilege! The Cristians will start burning embassies.
Run for cover.
Maybe Christians should.
How do you know when you're a total lug nut?
When even Barack Hussein Obama's UN delegation walks out on you.
To clarify: Maybe Christians should burn some embassies. That would shock the hell out of the Mahoundians.
Hey People - apparently our president is "offended" by Ahmedinejad's words:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/09/ahmadinejad-suggests-911-conspiracy-theories-by-us-government.html?cid=ESPNheadline
"There is no integrating of the Muslim faith with the rest of humanity. The Qur'an clearly incites xenophobia and hatred and exhorts its followers' to kill. It is not and never will be a religion of peace."
Comment from the abcnews link I posted above. I found it apropos.
You're an infidel. Who cares what infidel's think about the Qur'an. I mean seriously. LOL
"To clarify: Maybe Christians should burn some embassies. That would shock the hell out of the Mahoundians."
I hope you continue to say things like "Mahoundians" and promote burning Muslim embassies (who's?) because I like to see one of the ableist posters on this site marginalize themselves completely.
"To clarify: Maybe Christians should burn some embassies. That would shock the hell out of the Mahoundians."
Unfortunately (but I think fortunately) following the example of our Lord Jesus, which should be the goal of all who love Him, would preclude us from acting violently in retribution.
For the love of Christ constrains us, we love Him so much we want to please Him, and resorting to the same violent and destructive tactics as our enemiesuse would never, ever please Him.
And it would only give more fodder to those who believe all "religion" is the same, when Christianity is very clearly much different. So much of what Jesus and the apostles taught us flies in the face of natural human behavior. We want to avenge, He says turn the other cheek. We want to "do" things to make us acceptable to God, He says it is finished, simply believe in Me and My work on the cross. We want to see mankind turn to Christ, He says simply give the message and then live the message. No forcing, no coercion, no browbeating. We want to be first, He says be last.
No, I think it would be much better to follow Christ's example and give out the truth in love.
now I'm 100% sure you are a agent provocateur. Your attempt to simulate broken English is very inconsistent. Compare this post to ones you have made during the last few months. Also I have never seen a Muslim extremist use the term "infidel," if you were one as you pretend, you would use the term "kafir."
The U.S. delegation walked out huh? What? Was there a public flogging of a Christian or Jew somewhere nearby?
No, Eleanor, it won't shock them at all. Since they project so much of their thinking on others, they would take it as confirmation of the infidel mind.
"You're an infidel. Who cares what infidel's think about the Qur'an. I mean seriously. LOL"
You're a Muslim. Who cares what Muslims' think about anything. I mean, seriously. LOL!
Who cares what infidel's think about the Qur'an.
What 'infidels' think about Quran will be the downfall of Islam in the US...
Hey big guy:
So you prefer to take a quote from someone expressing frustration with the media double standard due to Islamic violence and use it to "marginalize" that person rather than address the violence promised by Ahmadinejad? How humanitarian of you.
now I'm 100% sure you are a agent provocateur.
Well, it takes one to know one, so you and he are on the same side...
hope you continue to say things like "Mahoundians" and promote burning Muslim embassies (who's?) because I like to see one of the ableist posters on this site marginalize themselves completely.
I see you're a typical muslim hypocrite, condoning the atrocious behavior of your fellow savages while condemning innocuous word play as if it were lethal. You people are truly deranged. I wish all we had to fear from muslims were insulting epithets and disparaging palaver. In today's world, being 'marginalized' is often a badge of honor, an exclusion from the clique of group thinkers comprised of muslims and leftists.
Islamic Empire said: "Who cares what infidel's (sic) think about the Qur'an."
Well, an awful lot of Moslems seem to care very deeply about what infidels think about the Koran. When just one infidel thought about burning the Koran, Moslems rioted by the tens of thousands, burned schools, killed each other, and injured hundreds.
"He held up a copy of the Muslim holy book, saying "the truth cannot be burned."
The 'Book of Uthman', is a book of lies...
It is all too simple. Ahmadinejad wants to destroy the West and especially Israel. What we are watching is the torturous process of all the less informed finding the truth. All people are not either as intelligent or paying attention. This is a very smart and cunning predator. No one remembers how Hitler with his socialist Mussolini type pals were much the same.
"How do you know when you're a total lug nut?
When even Barack Hussein Obama's UN delegation walks out on you."
LOL
i wish no one give this guy the time of the day.
As I read, Spot on, the Bret Stephens article Tom Davis above (first post) provided a link to, I too couldn't help but reflect upon how clever Hitler was as well. With tyrants of this sort, it should always be kept in mind that their IQ is ordinarily quite high but their moral intelligence quotient is always abysmal, to the point of psychopathy. Frankly, this is the way I think Mohammed was---very smart, very clever, but possessed of a moral insight so warped it can hardly be called morality at all.
Mohammed, Hitler, Ahmadinejad. All in the same mold, just the stage where performance took (takes) place differs. One thing else that ran through my mind as I read the Stephens article is what Ayn Rand said and that is that the truly evil men of the world are not the real problem. The real problem is the hesitation by civilization to take out such evil men before they wreak the havoc they are so capable of inflicting on others. Just imagine how different the world would now be if someone had knocked off Mohammed early in his life or if Churchill had been listened to and Hitler had been snuffed out by, say, 1937. Ditto for Ahmadinejad, though I do think he's strictly junior varsity material compared to Mohammed and Hitler.
What Wellington said.
"Ditto for Ahmadinejad, though I do think he's strictly junior varsity material compared to Mohammed and Hitler. "
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You won't say that when a Nuke actually gets used. I do believe when they have one made they will use it. It won't be a missle to the US, but rather it will be smuggled in with a suicide bomber in say... DC like the movie "Sum of All Fears".
Ahmenidijad believes in the 12th Imam and intends to create enough chaos to bring the 12th Imam out of hiding.
Agreed, but "Nuke" is not the right word. The Iranian facilities are for a mass production effort. The word should be plural.
Maybe they should move the Ground Zero 911 Islamic 'Victory' mosque to the UN. I'm sure Rauf and OIC would approve. They can place their tall phalic minaret symbol smack atop the middle of the UN building. Then from across the river it would look like a giant 'middle finger'. The Ummah would approve.
They walked out because elections are coming. When elections are over things will be back to normal.
Here are the 'Americans' who "cheered" the little islamo-nazi.
Ramsey Clark, again, the unregistered foreign agent (for Sadamn).
And some folks who just got a FBI visitation (FRSO)...
http://www.fightbacknews.org/2010/9/23/us-progressives-meet-iranian-president-mahmoud-ahmadinejad
The weapons of war have indeed become more terrible but respecting comparisons I would still maintain that the whack-job President of Iran is not in the same league with the real heavies like Mohammed and Hitler.
Unfortunately the thug from iran is quoting probably from alex jones prison planet where they say the US gov't is behind the 9-11, l am so disgusted that supposedly educated Americans can fall for this site!
Only a Islamofascist would publically declare that Muslims didn't do it because they don't have the brains our courage.
I guess iran feels there populations are too stupid to actually do anything that need deep thought and is complex,next he'll deny they have any Nuclear project because their too stupid to build a Plant or bomb.
It must have been the Jews or Bush because THEY are the smart ones,just ask CAIR about the failed Jihadist in Canada and the USA because CAIR also denies those people are Muslims,not because the faith condemns murdering for Allah...but that a true Muslim would see the Jihad to fruition to glorify Allah.
Is the 12th imam kinda' like Punxatawney Phil?
He comes out of his cave & if he sees his shadow then that's 6 more centuries of islam? As my late dad would've said, "Let's let those sleepin' dogs lie..."
"The majority of the American people, as well as other nations and politicians, believe...some segments within the U.S. government orchestrated the attack to reverse the declining American economy and its grips on the Middle East in order also to save the Zionist regime," Ahmadinejad said of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks...
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Let's see—how would that even work? We murdered our own people and severely damaged our economy, and that—somehow—helped the "Zionist regime"? More "Muslim logic" at work...
Here's the "robust" condemnation by our representative at the United Nations:
“Rather than representing the aspirations and goodwill of the Iranian people, Mr. Ahmadinejad has yet again chosen to spout vile conspiracy theories and anti-Semitic slurs that are as abhorrent and delusional as they are predictable," Mark Kornblau, spokesman for the U.S. mission to the U.N., said in a statement.
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It seems that one of the greatest issues Kornblau has with Ahmadinejad's statements are that he failed to pass along the hearty declarations of "goodwill" that the Iranian people no doubt have for us—still, it was better, I suppose, than we might expect under this administration's policy of abject appeasement.
More:
Ahmadinejad also referred to "the ugly and inhumane act of burning the Holy Koran," presumably making reference to the Florida pastor who had planned a Burn the Quran day earlier this month.
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More "ugly and inhumane" than murdering almost 3000 innocent people? Well, no doubt it is from the Muslim point of view.
More:
Ahmadinejad held up a Koran and a bible saying he pays respect to both of them.
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As Marisol notes, he is holding up the Bible with the hand he uses to wipe his *ss. Draw your own conclusions.
Here's some wishful thinking:
“I think what you’ve seen in Iran is a recognition that these sanctions have been perhaps more – have had more bite than they anticipated,” said White House deputy national security advisor Ben Rhodes.
“You’ve seen an increased internal dialogue about the course that they’re on, and increased discussions around the potential for diplomacy.”
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Yeah—violently oppressing, imprisoning and executing their own people, though, is a vital part of that "internal dialog"; while expelling UN nuclear inspectors and making bellicose threats of "wiping Israel off the map" and accusing America itself of engineering 9/11 seem to be Iran's main forms of "diplomacy".
There should always be someone playing circus music while this guy talks, and someone juggling flaming bowling pins. He is a clown. (I apologize to real clowns.)
I wish we could have been outside the UN with world artist Marc Rubin's 7 x 14 ft memorial painting "Atrocity 911" We were in NYC on 9/11/2010 for the memorial service.
Here is a link to a photo montage flash movie of the public's reaction to the painting: http://www.marcrubin.com/911-2010.ivnu
Facebook: "Atrocity 911 Painting"
Thousands and thousands saw and photographed the painting.
Tensions were running high at the memorial because of a huge burgeoning anger at Mayor Bloomberg for adding injury to the injury of 911 by pushing for a mosque near ground zero, while he doesn’t care about building a proper memorial at Zucotti Park. Notably, Marc received heartfelt thanks for “Atrocity 911” “serving as a 911 Memorial” – friends and families of survivors words, not mine. More than one person called the painting “the main attraction of the day” and asked that “Atrocity 911” be in a museum. Many shed tears and gave hugs and kisses to the artist. People were healed.
"I see you're a typical muslim hypocrite, [Yusef YK] condoning the atrocious behavior of your fellow savages while condemning innocuous word play as if it were lethal. You people are truly deranged."
The always right-on Susanp.
i believe that there is one main issue that must be dealt with. it is not about achmednutjob, or faisal or gamal or cair etc.
these are what i would call 'predictable items'.
that is to be expected from the muslime population.
the REAL ISSUE, i believe, is not what they did or said or think. but - WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT ('it' being islam)
folks! there is a monstrous battle about to be waged. it is a battle of cultures. so far, i am afraid the muslimes have the upper hand thanks to a bunch of idiots masquerading as journalists, not daring to do their job and ask tough questions (yo! hussein! why is your college record sealed up? is it because you are A FPREIGN student???,...noooo!
instead let's hang on to every word that a lunatic is spewing and try to be nice and not to rock the boat...)
the muslimes also are gaining on us because now there is a muslime in chief at the white house for crying out loud!
so once more.
it does not matter what the muslimes say or do.
the real question is what are WE going to do.
i have a long list of suggestions. but i do not want to be denied access to this blog, so i hope others may come with their recommendations as well.
"not daring to do their job"
They are doing their job, they are the propagandists for the NWO, which is a merging of Islam and the left..
Sashland wrote:
Here are the 'Americans' who "cheered" the little islamo-nazi.
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Thanks for posting that, Sashland.
"U.S. progressives meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad"
New York, NY - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad met here, September 21, with 100 leaders and representatives of anti-war, labor, alternative media and Iranian and Palestinian solidarity organizations. Among the participants were Sarah Martin, Freedom Road Socialist Organization, Margaret Sarfehjooy, board member of the Minneapolis-based Women Against Military Madness, former attorney general Ramsey Clark, former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, Sara Flounders from the International Action Center, Brian Becker of the ANSWER coalition, Ramona Africa of the Free Mumia Coalition and Amiri Baraka, poet and activist.
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Ah—Amiri Baraka, the former LeRoi Jones—who was named Poet Laureate of New Jersey in 2002. This was already quite appalling, since Baraka had advocated violence, Marxist revolution, and the *use of rape* as a political tool.
Still, New Jerseyites—some of whom live in sight of Ground Zero, and many of whom died on 9/11—were horrified when Baraka wrote "Somebody Blew Up America".
This semi-literate truther screed includes these lines:
Who knew the World Trade Center was gonna get bombed
Who told 4000 Israeli workers at the Twin Towers
To stay home that day
Why did Sharon stay away?
...Who know why Five Israelis was filming the explosion
And cracking they sides at the notion
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Amiri Baraka holds that 9/11 was carried out by George Bush and the Israelis.
New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey's called for Baraka to resign—and Baraka refused. When McGreevey attempted to fire Baraka, he found no provision in the law for removing a state poet laureate.
The position of Poet Laureate had only been created a couple of years before by then New Jersey Governor Christine Whitman, and only one other poet had ever been named. McGreevey saw no other way to oust Baraka than by eliminating the position altogether.
These are the very worst kind of "useful idiots"—far more morally reprehensible than naive peaceniks who believe everybody can just hold hands and get along.
They are people who hate America so violently and unreasoningly that they would be happy to see any creed—no matter how vicious—destroy her utterly.
I have to say that you Americanos are way too sensitive - walking out like that.
Isn't it ironic that you - the people who fund the UN practically single handed - and the man that you want to chuck out - chucked you out instead.
LOL that is so funny.
Look 9/11 happened a long time ago, even many Americans think there was an American hand that caused the disaster. Indeed It has been said that Bush stayed up in the air that day much longer than necessary so that they could agree on and get their story straight - others said that he was just plain yellow, but I digress.
The GZ mosque has overshadowed the disaster itself, little shows of strength like the Florida "quaran burning day" has amounted to nothing due to lack of American support and an overwhelming support by the muslim world.
In essence we care about our god much more than you care for your god - indeed you care more about our god then you care for you own god - keep up the good work.
while most of the post was pure gibberish, here, you actually got it right:
"The GZ mosque has overshadowed the disaster itself, little shows of strength like the Florida "quaran burning day" has amounted to nothing due to lack of American support and an overwhelming support by the muslim world"
which is pretty much what i have posted a short while ago.
we are losing this battle of the civilizations because the primitive, barbaric, bloodthirsty muslimes present a united front. no whats ifs or buts.
there is no such thing as moderate islam. islam is islam i.e. fight the infidel and convert him or kill him.
but on the western civilization front....sadly, we are bursting at the seams with useful idiots, retarded liberal that genuinely believe that because they say 'nice doggy, nice doggy' it wil not bite....
how deluded! how ridiculous!
Re the US delgate walking out on A-jad's speech:
This shouldn't surprise anyone. Most officers of the US Department of State are intelligent enough to recognize lying, hate-mongering cant when they hear it (and those with experience in the Islamic world probably hear it a-plenty). Further, we aren't the only country whose delegates ever walked out on a UN meeting.
Further, and I speak as an unreconstructed "No 'Bama" guy, it may just be the case that the 'Bama administration is finally waking up to the fact that the Islamic Republic of Iran likes being an enemy of the USA, regardless of what kind of administration is in office.
By the way, I watched part of Mr. Furrow-faced Ahmonkeyedinajad on TV. The guy's disgusting.
Michael Moore comdemned Bush for NOT rounding up Muslims and Arabs on 9/11 until they proved they were innocent.
Moore mention in his 9/11 movie that Bush ALLOWED non-Citizens that were Arabs and Muslims to leave the USA by Plane when Domestice flights were halted.
OK Michael,then why would a flight heading over the Atlantic by a private charter be stopped when fighter jets were on call to blow it out of the air at the 1st sign of a deviation from the flight path???
Since when did I need permission as a tourist in the USA that wants to leave when the Law dictates that I must leave by agreement in the Visitor rules as a alien with a time limit to register?
International flights have a limit to exit-interviews to stop people unless they are on a FBI list as a wanted criminal.
So that theory of Bush and 9/11 has holes in it and so does many of conspiracy nubar videos that DON'T choose to use the valid evidence for what happened but keep showing all the blurred and obscure images or edited videos that back the theory.
1000 bad pictures will not negate the one good picture that proves there was no Bomb on the bottom of the second plane that hit the tower,and that video of it doing 500mph does not match the real video or evidence from Boeing that the Plane will fall apart at sea level and over 250 mph just from the wing darg and engine heat in the turbines.
Check out the spec's for the boeing engines on the planes,they have speed limit and altitude limits for full-throttle use on the Planes.
Roland, you fuzzy little . Not the brightest bulb in the box, are you?
If there weren't a Ground Zero in the first place, there couldn't be a Ground Zero Mosque. could there? And if you're right about it being 9 years ago and perhaps people were forgetting ... that idiot Rauf and Co have put it right back on the front page! How's that workin' out? SO far we have a petty criminal, a lying slumlord and his deluded muslimah dingbat wife. These people should all be pulling up poppies in Afghanistan.
Oh, and please spare us the truther nonsense.
We all know it was 19 slime-ball muslims who did 9/11. Were you cheering for them, Roland?
Tell the truth, muslim, if you can...
george, i like your style, approach and tone.
may there be more like you!
" In essence we care about our god much more than you care for your god - indeed you care more about our god than you care for your own god. Keep up the good work ".
I must agree with you on that, roland. We need to pay serious attention to what Allah revealed to Mohammad. People that don't have a strange tendency to wind up dead...
Aside from that, how would you present your statement to an agnostic, or an atheist ?
Keep up the good work ? Yes ! The JW team does an excellent job !
"US walks out on Ahmadinejad UN speech!"
Obviously they missed Ahmadinejad's message about blaming Capitalism for all the evils of the world.
The Obama administration would have loved that. If only the November elections weren't coming up. Then Obama could have sat through the entire speech, received an autographed copy of the Koran and swapped notes on bringing about the downfall of the free market.
I think Obama is ahead on that count.
Yes, 9/11 happened a long time ago.
That was way, way back a whole nine years ago. That is higher than you can count and easily surpasses your IQ.
I see how you would be overwhelmed by such deep time.
...indeed you care more about our god then you care for you own god - keep up the good work.
Your dog? We will take care of your dog in due time.
The West is fat and lazy, but once it starts going your dog will be, once again, curbed, muzzled and constrained to the kennel of Mecca.
Captain, you are most kind, thank you.
I see the word "muzzie" has been expunged from my post. But I couldn't find a rhyme for "mahoundian." A "rotundian mahundian?"
It's occasionally of interest to reflect upon what passes for thought in your brain. Instructive.
So you think there is actually a conscious thought process and not just a basal survival instinct.
You could be right, I just didn't immediately recognise it as such!;
What if, George, we could put all the Muslims of the world in Burundi? Then they'd all be Burundian Mahoundians. How's that for rhyme? Beautiful thought too I might add.
Reasonable minds could differ on this one, Muhammed Bear. It's a close call.
Or we could send all to the Alsace region in France.
Then they would be Alsatian Mahoundians.
Not only does it almost rhyme but you get two dog references in and that has to be doubly offensive.
Man, you are so dumb. Blame Islam for that.
By Jove, I think you've got it! The Burundian Mahoundians. Kind-of sounds like a muslim glee-club, no? "Fred Waring and his Burundian Mahoundians (laughing)...
Perfect rhyme and beautiful thought!
Still, I'm not sure Burundians are exactly thrilled with the idea.
Iran and the 12th Imam
Also in response to Miriam's post, I wish the Iranian People would make ahmadinajacket go away permanently.
"Michael Moore comdemned Bush for NOT rounding up Muslims and Arabs on 9/11 until they proved they were innocent."
What a lot of people don't understand about the weeks after 9/11 is there were many attempts by Islamic Jihadists and sleeper cells to followup on that terrorists actions. Several trucks filled with bombs driven by Muslims were stopped or thwarted by NYC police.
How do I know this? A good friend of mine in NY is a cop and he heard first hand. He said many of the things he heard and saw in after action reports were not reported in the news for security reasons. I'm sure the other reason was to calm people down and keep them from going batshit. People were upset enough about what happened especially in NYC. I remember it took me quite a while to get over what happened as well.
When you hear about the 1,000's of Muslims that were arrested after 9/11, this includes most of those caught trying to do something like a truck bomb in the Lincoln Tunnel.
Roland and Islamic Empire, keep searching for that missing cookie. It's not really a Happy Meal without it, now is it?
As for the Asshat-in-Command Iminadinnerjacket, check out what happened to Haman in the Book of Esther.
Purim is only a few months away.
How not to become a Muslim outpost by 2025
a) withdraw from the UN. Walking out on speeches is not enough. Unfortunately it's become nothing more than a Muslim mouthpiece.
b) Encourage the population to stand down Islam. The government should emphasize free speech and have absolutely no comment on any specifiec action therein (book burnings, etc) since governmental power is innately chilling.
c) The government itself should continue to speak in broad generalities of striving for peaceful coexistence in order to pacify the Muslim masses. It is ok to lie to Muslims. There are 1.3 billion of these zombies. The objective of any war with an Islamic country should be the population's destruction. That is not realistic and is not being advocated on humanitarian grounds. Zombies, unless risen from the grave and recertified dead, maintain human recognition and all rights thereof.
No other major objective is possible. If the country is transformed into a democracy, it will vote back in its Islamic oppressors and/or descend into utter Muslim fomenting chaos and interminable conflict. So wars with Islamic countries should be avoided at all costs beyond executing the limited objectives of c) following.
c) reactively attack militarily all terrorists irrespective of any and all national boundaries if the harboring country is not fully cooperative. All terrorists should be dead within 3 months, or if captured - prisoners of war should be tried by military tribunals.
d) The USA and its allies should embark on a policy of totally isolating all Muslim countries that are actively exporting and fomenting terrorism. This means ALL countries..Pakistan and Saudi Arabia included.
e) This is the most shocking and jolting to the American public and its value system, but because of the disastrous mistakes in handling the issue - extremely drastic measures are now called for.
As the weight of the evidence now points toward Islam being a political ideology bent on the subversion of the American government on the order of Communism rather than embodying the characteristics of a religion - Islam should be defined as a political party and outlawed. All Mosques should be torn down. All illegal resident Muslims hunted down and deported. All Muslims engaging in any activity defining the party arrested. All proffessed Muslims monitored.
Read about the Thug-in-Chief's encounter with a reporter from the Jerusalem Post:
http://www.jpost.com/Features/InThespotlight/Article.aspx?id=189145
"Who cares what infidel's (sic) think about the Qur'an."
When the time comes, and make no mistake, that time has and will come again, the infidel you mock today will loose his patience with your death cult. Every Muslim in that part of Dar al-Islam found worthy of such attention will care deeply.
Not one infidel boot need touch that soil. Not one nuke will be unleashed. You want to live in a 7th century world? Will you thank us when your dream comes true?
Mike Ryan wrote:
Read about the Thug-in-Chief's encounter with a reporter from the Jerusalem Post
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Damn disturbing, Mike—thanks for posting this.
"The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Iran and to develop an international image of a Iran threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."
Getting into a discussion with followers of Ahmadinejad and his cronies is a waste of good air.
How do you argue, with reason, when the person opposite you makes such stupid and nonsensical statements.
I am convinced the only way to deal with Ahmadinejad and his mullahs is to directly give them ultimatums to pull their heads in and start behaving like humans, or else we will be taking serious action to do so at 0900 hours tomorrow.
How long must we go on wasting our breath on these morons. They don't respect dialogue and treat us like puppets on a string.
Get serious and start giving them ultimatums. Be sure to follow through with them and then see if they will listen. If there is no response in the affirmative, go to the next level. Don't waste time trying to be diplomatic with a fundamentalist idiot who believes the boogie-man-is-coming.
Obama will do nothing about Iran until the Military infrastructure to do so is dismantled.
If the President has a hard time with the concept of victory then what is left as the alternative?
Standard Islam: Accuse your enemies for what you did. Maybe it wasn't the Saudis, but Iran that did this. Elsewise why would he blame us?
We shuold have held him till the hostages were set free.
Tom Davis: Please let's not be surprised. Rather, let us expect that of the US delegates, every time. Thank God. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Good question, captain Nemo! What are WE going to do about it?
The answer has to be worked out and put into a coherent strategy, and there are plenty of good ideas, being suggested on many websites and in many posts.
Personally I like our side to have a good-sounding name, so that we can be identified easily. But I don't know what name yet.
And to me it is most important that our group cultivates a positive goal, not a negative goal. We should think hard to be FOR something, only then be AGAINST something because that something is itself AGAINST and a blockade of that which we are FOR. I think we at least are FOR a totally peaceful resolution of the Islam-Democracy-controversy if possibly only through dialoque. Making our world a better place in the process.
So we should eloquently formulate all that we are FOR that we know Islam is against and blockading, which is why we resent Islam.
It seems all the time that we are trying to stop the Muslims, but I want them to have to stop us. And also I would like to see PCMC-people trying to stop us. While we have clear positive goal behind which it is easy to enthousiastically unite.
I think we are already the ones in the world that desire the dialoque concerning the very real now undeniable Islam-Democracy-controverse.
And I think already those PCMC's who respond to us mainly use arguments to shut down the dialoque about this controversy and that they are the less interested and informed ones when there still is a dialoque going on.
Reportedly, Ahmadinejad began his speech before the UN on Thursday by praying first ...
“O God, hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi and grant him good health and victory and make us his followers and those who attest to his righteousness.”
Imam al-Mahdi is another name for the “Twelfth Imam” or the “Hidden Imam.” Shia Muslims believe this Islamic messiah will come at the End of Days to destroy Judeo-Christian civilization as we have known it, force infidels to convert or be executed, and will set up a one-world Islamic government known as the “caliphate.” Ahmadinejad believes the way to “hasten” the Twelfth Imam’s coming is to annihilate the U.S. and Israel. This would bring about the “victory” that Ahmadinejad prayed for on American soil. The speech went downhill from there. Ahmadinejad then accused the U.S. government of masterminding the 9/11 attacks in order to save Israel.
Strange, but I did not learn about this evil prayer that preceded him blaming the US for 9/11. Why are they keeping this vital piece of information regarding that prayer quiet?
"Strange, but I did not learn about this evil prayer that preceded him blaming the US for 9/11" ...
...from any television news sources. I read about it on-line.
(I meant to add that part)
Isn't it strange how these muslims affect this hysterical offended reaction to a non-burning of the Qu'ran but the same country burns thousands of Bibles for real.
Don't you think we also have a right to be offended Mr. Ahmadinejad? Oh, sorry, it is just Muslims who have that right.
miriam:
Are you a true Persian without any arab. pakistani and/ or other contamination?
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Its an Honor Roll... didn't the Stone have a song about this called "Sympathy for the Devil"?
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/jad_monster_ball_Z7Km37ydJJJHSxgrxPtfbJ