"After such an attack we believe it would be difficult to get away safely. Hence, it should be considered a martyrdom operation." "Al-Qaida: Ram cars into crowds," from UPI, October 13:
SANAA, Yemen, Oct. 13 (UPI) -- An article in al-Qaida's online English magazine calls on Muslims in the West to arm vehicles with spiked battering rams and then target crowded areas.The article, called "The Ultimate Mowing Machine," shows an illustration of a civilian four-by-four truck and suggests turning the vehicle into a spike battering ram, Middle East Online said Wednesday.
"If you have access to firearms, carry them with you so that you may use them to finish off your work if your vehicle gets grounded during the attack," the article says, warning operatives to be prepared to die for the cause.
"After such an attack we believe it would be difficult to get away safely. Hence, it should be considered a martyrdom operation," it said.
Details of the al-Qaida's online magazine called Inspire, published by the Yemen-based wing of the terrorist organization, encourages Muslims to recruit Westerners to the jihadi cause.
Al-Qaida supporters are also urged to launch attacks in Israel, the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia, France, Germany, Denmark, Holland and other countries "where the government and public sentiment is in support of the occupation of Palestine," the site said....
well duh....
Even a kid could come up with this idea.
Yes, please do...show the world once and for all the barbarity that is islam. Unfortunately, we will require more horrific attacks from the ROP'ers before enough people take up arms in defense of civilization. I can sense the sentiment towards islam changing the world over and some attacks like this could provide the impetus that puts the infidel masses over the top. Sorry to welcome this but it's the only way enough people will ever realize the menace and the enemy of humanity islam represents.
I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it in a school playground.
Why We Fight
Where is the outcry from "moderate" muslims?
Where are the muslim protests in the streets at this incitement to violence and killing in the name of Islam?
Where are the protests AGAINST these misunderstanders of Islam?
The silence is deafening.
Has there not been such an attack already in the US? I seem to recall an islamic jihadist ramming his car into some students not too long ago.
Yes, at UNC Chapel Hill in 2006
Attacks like this, of course, have already been carried out by Muslims - and not by Muslims demonstrably affiliated with Al Qaeda.
I recall two cases in the USA in 2006 that were discussed here at jihadwatch - a Persian Muslim who drove his SUV into a crowd of students at Mr Spencer's alma mater, North Carolina U; and an Afghan Muslim who drove an SUV around San Francisco, deliberately running people over.
Here are a few of the reports that were discussed at jihadwatch in March 2006, concerning the Jihadist in North Carolina, a twenty-two-year-old Iranian Muslim student named Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar who drove an SUV onto the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and deliberately drove into a crowd of students, injuring nine people. On, let us note, **a Friday afternoon**.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/03/jihad-attack-at-unc-chapel-hill.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/03/suspect-in-unc-hit-and-run-wanted-to-spread-will-of-allah.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/03/officials-consider-more-charges-in-taheri-azar-case.html
and here is Mr Spencer's FrontPage article
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=5297
And here are two stories that we discussed at jihadwatch, featuring the San Francisco jihadist, Omeed Aziz Popal, who drove round San Francisco running people over, on 29 August 2006; he killed one person and injured fourteen.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/08/sf-hit-and-run-murderer-identifies-self-as-terrorist-police-say-it-wasnt-terrorism.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/08/san-francisco-muslim-who-ran-people-down-in-suv-ruled-insane-wont-go-to-prison.html
There have also been, more recently, three cases in Israel - two in July 2008, one in March 2009 - of Muslims running amok in the streets of Jerusalem with earth-moving equipment, ramming buses and police cars and crushing private vehicles.
There may well have been other cases of Muslims using cars, or other vehicles, to kill kaffir, that have not been recognised as instances of deliberate kill-the-kafir Jihad; that may have been viewed as common or garden 'hit and run' incidents, for example, or as accidents.
Here are the jihadwatch references for the "road jihad" attacks in Jerusalem, Israel, in July 2008 and March 2009.
July 2008, the first attack:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/07/jerusalem-at-least-4-killed-44-injured-as-palestinian-goes-on-rampage-with-bulldozer.html
"At least four people were killed and 44 were wounded - one seriously, one moderately and 42 lightly - on Wednesday afternoon when a bulldozer driver went on a rampage in downtown Jerusalem.
"Police said that the driver plowed his vehicle into two public buses, toppling them over, and slammed into several cars.
"A off-duty soldier took the gun from an elite policeman at the scene and shot the terrorist dead.
"The soldier, Moshe Klessner, 18, is the brother-in-law of IDF officer David Shapira, who killed the terrorist in the Mercaz Harav Yeshiva attack, Channel 2 reported.
"Klessner was assisted in neutralizing the attacker by another elite policeman.
"Another elite policeman was lightly wounded, apparently by gunfire, indicating that the terrorist was armed.
"Police said the incident was definitely a terror attack, emphasizing that the terrorist, Jabr Duwait, a 32-year-old father of two from Jebl Mukaber, was carrying an Israeli identity card. The Mercaz Harav attacker was from the very same east Jerusalem town....
[UPDATE: The Jerusalem Post now reports 3 killed, and 57 injured.
- Posted by Marisol on July 2, 2008 7:47 AM.
The second attack, also in July:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/07/another-tractor-attack-in-jerusalem.html
“A man driving a mechanical digger has carried out an attack in Jerusalem and has been shot dead, the Israeli emergency services say.
"Police say the driver rammed other traffic before he was shot dead. Eleven people were reported injured.
"The driver's identity was not immediately clear.
"Earlier this month, a Palestinian driving a similar vehicle killed three people and wounded dozens of others in Jerusalem before being shot dead.”
- Posted by Robert on July 22, 2008 8:43 AM.
And then, in early March, 2009:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/03/tractor-jihad-in-jerusalem-we-found-an-open-quran-book-in-the-drivers-compartment.html
“A tractor plowed into a police squad car on Menachem Begin Boulevard in Jerusalem on Thursday. The driver was apparently also trying to hit a nearby bus, but missed.
"Two police officers were in the car when it was hit and both sustained mild injuries. Other police officers patrolling nearby shot the terrorist....”
“Thursday's tractor attack is the third of its kind in the capital: July of 2008 saw two such attacks – the first resulting in three people dead and 30 injured and the second resulting in 18 people injured. In both cases, the assailant was a resident of east Jerusalem....”.
- Posted by Robert on March 5, 2009 8:47 AM.
You will observe that each of these attacks was only stopped by someone's shooting dead the jihadist.
Dumbledore's Army, you mentioned all the cases I was going to cite—the two cases of "Sudden SUV Jihad" in North Carolina and in my own back-yard here in the San Francisco Bay Area, as well as the "Bulldozer Jihad" in Israel.
Here's a very similar case, from last year in upstate New York:
"Rochester, NY: Muslim intentionally tries to run down people with his car"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/rochester-ny-muslim-intentionally-tries-to-run-down-people-with-his-car.html
Another case, from 2007:
"Minneapolis carjacker 'mentally ill, suffers from depression and hasn't being taking his medication'"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/02/minneapolis-carjacker-mentally-ill-suffers-from-depression-and-hasnt-being-taking-his-medication.html
I would also like to mention the Muslim who ran down his own daughter and her boyfriend's mother in Arizona—he killed his daughter, the other woman survived with serious injuries. This combines the twin Muslim horrors of "Sudden Vehicular Jihad" and "Honor Killings":
"Arizona Republic: Muslim runs down daughter for rejecting 'Iraqi values'"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/10/arizona-republic-muslim-runs-down-daughter-for-rejecting-iraqi-values.html
This is what I said on the Rochester story thread at the time:
"Ibrahim Ramey, human and civil rights director for the Muslim American Society’s Freedom Foundation, said, in reference to the Al Maleki case, “It’s certainly not part of the religion, to run people down with vehicles.”
Perhaps not—and yet, it seems to be more common all the time."
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Here's a disturbing posting on JihadWatch by Arjun Sevak from June 29, 2007, as he describes his old neighborhood in India that became Muslim. Here's the line that caught my eye in regard to the above story:
"The dogs of that area are dying because the muslims run their cabs over them."
From what I have heard, Muslims intentionally run over dogs in many parts of the world. Dogs, Infidels, Infidel dogs...
OT
Retired French schoolteacher in 'niqab rage' case
A French pensioner chased a Muslim woman around a shop and ripped her niqab from her face claiming they should be banned in France, a court has heard.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/8064607/Retired-French-schoolteacher-in-niqab-rage-case.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1320392/Retired-teacher-Marlene-faces-jail-ripping-Muslims-veil-case-burka-rage.html
What other religion but Islam produces thought patterns along these lines? So sick of Islam. All of it.
"An article in al-Qaida's online English magazine calls on Muslims in the West to arm vehicles with spiked battering rams and then target crowded areas. "
An Islamic sponsored activity...Islam feel the love..
Correct! and it borne out by the names the muslims give to these organisations. A limited series of examples:
1) Jemehiah Islamia;
2) Lashkar -e - Toiba (army of allah);
3) Jaishe Mohammed (soldiers of mohammed);
4) Taliban - students of Islam;
5) Lashkar e Jhagvi - (Army of allah/Mohammed);
6) Hezbollah - army of allah;
etc etc .. So who do you think is associating Islam with militancy and targetted civilian killings?
Islmophobes ..hmmm
"moderate muslim" reaction: crickets
This has been done since Mo drove camels.
This isn't new, it's been done in Israel and many Muslim countries, they do this to their own fellow Muslims too.
"Details of the al-Qaida's online magazine called Inspire," ...
Inspire? ...yeah the "religion of peace" inspires men and women to commit EVIL crimes. muslims are barbarians - beginning, but not ending with, muhammad (perdition is upon him). islam & company can go to HELL.
This is right out of Death Race 2000. egads!
It's been documented before. And because our cities usually do all they can to ban firearms, even for personal defense, you can expect these attacks to be very "successful."
The amazing thing is that a religion would encourage its adherents to commit suicide this way. And we wonder why Islamic countries have contributed so little to society in the last Millennium.
Submission doesn't work. Justice and Love work.
Show a duck a body of water and he'll show you 10 ways to swim. Show a Moslem a convenient and effective way to kill and he'll show you the results of a can-do attitude.
Where is the outcry from "moderate" muslims?
Modern Moslem Man has to be getting damn tired of these constant requests for their outcry on this or that done by "radicalized Moslems" (what that is).
It must really irk them when they hear such requests. I mean, are we pathetic Infidels not capable of understanding what the whole scam is here? It's the Cause, Infidel, and forcing them into publicly uttering taquiyya bullcrap on Larry King or FoxNews turns their stomachs, and it turns ours stomachs just as much having to hear it from them.
Re: the Killer Escalade in Chapel Hill
Imagine how poor Spencer musta felt, right their on the commons at his alma mater. And don't forget what happened on the sidewalk in front of the Jewish center in Seattle.
*** Tabari 8:141 ***
The battle cry of the Companions of Mohammed that night was: "Kill! Kill! Kill!"
Anybody here seen the modern classic Natural Born Killers? The point there was Woody Harrelson and Juliette Lewis were born that way. The point here is that Moslems are programmed that way.
Champ wrote:
"Details of the al-Qaida's online magazine called Inspire," ...
Inspire? ...yeah the "religion of peace" inspires men and women to commit EVIL crimes. muslims are barbarians - beginning, but not ending with, muhammad (perdition is upon him). islam & company can go to HELL.
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I know—calling this horror "Inspire" is incredibly perverse.
There are a number of other similarly named publications, including "Inspired Magazine", for illustrators and graphic artists, which I am quite familiar with; a magazine called "InSpire", which is about inspiring women; and the identically named "Inspire Magazine", which describes itself as "the UK's biggest monthly magazine", which is free to churches there. This last issue has such benignant features as a story about sending rescued Ugandan child soldiers to school, the retirement of South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu, and the activities of the Scottish Bible Society. Oddly, no stories on how to ram your car into a crowd for the glory of God.
"Inspire" comes from Al Anfal ("Booty" or "The Spoils of War"), the eighth Sura of the Qur'an. What other religion has a "Holy Book" with a chapter dedicated to the proper disposal of violently seized loot? This is the verse:
"O Prophet! Inspire the believers to conquer all fear of death when fighting, so that, if there be twenty of you who are patient in adversity, they might overcome two hundred; and that, if there be one hundred of you, they might overcome one thousand of those who are bent on denying the truth, because they are people who cannot grasp it."
In other words, it is an exhortation to murder those who will not convert to the baleful creed of Islam.
Nice to see you posting again, Champ. Hope you are doing well.
Back when I was young, the So-Smart Lefties always taunted Christians who served in Viet Nam with "Didja Kill a Kommie for Khrist?" and thought themselves sooooooooo clever. But I don't see them taunting Muslims about the open and unabashed violence that seems to be the public face of Islam these days.
It seems that every Muslim sodality has some kind of violent agenda and celebrates the "martyrdom" of children in suicide bombings. Yet when the Christians' "Salvation Army" and similar "Militiae Christi" are on the march, it's only to give the homeless some counsel and a bed, or recycle goods at cheap prices for poor people. Yet it strikes me that the MSM reserves its ire and taunting for the Christians.
Justice and love will beat these thugs? Huh?
Here's what works:
http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2010/01/whatever-works.html
dear apf,
once more you have hit the target in the bull's eye!
"I mean, are we pathetic Infidels not capable of understanding what the whole scam is here? It's the Cause, Infidel, and forcing them into publicly uttering taquiyya bullcrap on Larry King or FoxNews turns their stomachs, and it turns ours stomachs just as much having to hear it from them."
this ridiculous ongoing bs must stop!!!
at the risk of sounding like a broken record, there is no other way! this multiculturalism can and does work for all the human race with the exception of pisslam!
like the title of barenaked islam blog says - it is not islamophobia when they really ARE trying to killl you...
folks! it is really simple!
it is us or them.
the two do not mix no matter how hard the idiotic, criminal leftard media is trying to portray building bridges and all that s**t!
to me the solution is rather simple:
we, the west, the nonmuslimes, the kuffars, can not be harmed by these savages if we are not in contact with them and they are not in our midst!
if they wish to fight and kill themselves sunni vs shiia, pashtouns vs hazaras whatever.... to that i say 'ahalan wa'sahlan'! keep at it boys and do not stop...
follow this kkkuran to the letter in your own country, which we, the west have left you to your own devices.. (that also means, you will starve to death, but that is another story)
meanwhile back at the ranch, in the west, we must cure this infestation. thus severe laws must be passed where incitement against the host country, is given ONE warning only. the second such incident, puts the offender on the first flight to a muslime country of his/her choice.
let us understand for once and for all, these people are NOT fully integrated loyal citizens like immigrants from any other ethnic group... 2nd and 3rd generations are loyal to the pisslam taught in madrassas and are actively infiltrating and brainstorming how to cause more dammage and kill the infidel from within.
when exposed (malik hassan, faisal shazad...do these names ring a bell? )the criminal media whitewashes it....
what will it take my god for us to wake up???
i fully understand how my post may sound to someone slightly liberal.... i am not a hateful person i am a realist and i understand that the battle is only beginning
It's been documented before. And because our cities usually do all they can to ban firearms, even for personal defense, you can expect these attacks to be very "successful."
The amazing thing is that a religion would encourage its adherents to commit suicide this way. And we wonder why Islamic countries have contributed so little to society in the last Millennium.
Submission doesn't work. Justice and Love work.
Thank you, Gravenimage! ...and all is well on my end. Hope you and yours are also doing well, my friend :)
At the very least it will stimulate the auto industry, although insurance rates will skyrocket.
"After such an attack we believe it would be difficult to get away safely. Hence, it should be considered a martyrdom operation..."
Did you catch that, all Muslims in the West? All the 'moderates' whose unified voice of denunciation regarding this matter is so diminutive it can't be heard?
Make sure to tell all your friends... Don't pack a lunch...
Where is the outcry from moderates?
By their silence, they let the extremists define Islam.
They've obviously been getting bored in Yemen and have been playing too much Grand Theft Auto.
These guys are idiots. In cities of the UK, local government has such a yen to combat illegal parking on pavements/sidewalks that where we've not already got enough trees, lamp standards, traffic signs, or railings, they have put in deliberate anti-vehicle obstacles such as bollards, raised kerbs or large planters. We've even got extra strong bollards near ATM's to deter ram raiders.
It's getting difficult to walk any distance over a pedestrian area in a straight line, never mind drive a car. Guys, you better make that a bicycle with spikes, or perhaps a segway.
In a way this makes sense-
they lack sophisticated weaponry so they have to smash machines into large concentrations of people to score high kill scores on the jihad arcade machine to impress the Hora.
Planes worked epically well but alas, security measures make it impossible and box cutters can't cut through solid steel doors leading to the valued piloting wheel.
So- go with cars!
Cars- like anything designed to transport people, now a weapon of choice to murder people by terrorists! If they ever invent workable hovercrafts (rather, if we do it for them) then they'll probably find something to smash them into.
Several years back in Toronto canada I watched how 2 tall apartment tower had the basement bombings deguised as a Electrical overload Hydro-power box explosion.
Except the one Tower near me had a Police mobile Station set-up for the post-explosion, and there were major security increases done for parking and the main entrance.
What was the Sherlock Holmes "Dog that didn't bark" clue that tipped me off to the Media cover-up???
Well for one,I never saw one Power Company vehicle over the 3 week period it was a Crisis where the sectioned-off area by Police was seen on the nightly news.
This begs the question for WHEN the Police were paid to fix Electrical problem in Parking lots under ground for tall Apartment towers.
Then there was the YouTube video of the other bombing also mentioned on Anti-CAIR's site , that building had huge cracks in the foundation with black smoke creeping out and still not one Hydro truck in the Media backdrop videos. This bombing was in my old neighbourhood and was now a "Refugee" village or Afghanistani's and some Pro-Taliban Muslims in the pre-9/11 era.
In both cases the Police and Fire Dept. alleged that the Electrical explosion ignited cars and cause gas tanks to pop-off one by one.
But how would 1 car or even a power-box shoot flames or sparks so far away in a mainly cemnat built parking lot to heat up car and make the tanks explode.
Gasoline needs oxygen to ignite from heat,even a Boy Scount knows how to fry eggs in a paper bag over a camp fire because the broken eggs absorb the heat and don't let air ignite the inner side of the paper.
Politicians are going to get a lot of people killed again in another 9/11 because they actually belive they are spewing what was said to be the "Noble Lie" for the good of the person or the cause.
Ironically, many Candian Leaders and Government Building have beefed-up security over this Non-threat they spew to us since 9/11. We even had a failed suicide-bomber Caught on a video and stopped by the Local police right near the QueensPark Provincial Government Parliament buidings during a protest.
My gawd...the media even bought the Big-Lie that a protestor rented a delivery van to set himself on fire as a statement of protest.
It's the Quran ...stupid!
Talking about Al Qaeda, Islam and liberals' walkout:
"Video: Beck and O’Reilly React to ‘The View’ Walkout"
(Two short video clips from 'Fox News')
http://www.foxnewsinsider.com/2010/10/14/video-beck-and-oreilly-react-to-the-view-walkout
Here's a video on a new organization that is lobbying and measuring politicians on the extent to which they resist the infiltration of sharia law into the United States:
Sharia Law in the U.S.: DemocracyUnderAttack.org
Islam is no religion. Neither is Fascism or Communism.
Hoi Robert. I made this comment in the San Fransico Weekly. Theo Prinse says:
Professor John Yoo is excercising his right of Free Expression of Thought and that doesn't make hime a war criminal until proven guilty. What should disturb us is that SFweekly pay little or no attention to the recent 372 pages PDF/internet report, Shariah; the threat to America, written by fmr. CIA director James Woolsey, Frank Gaffney and many others. It unmaskes islam as a torturing force to insinuate America into shariah. Theo Prinse, Holland - the Netherlands
Posted On: Friday, Oct. 15 2010 @ 5:35AM
You are either against these barbarians or for them. Liberals and other passivists promote that the civilized world is not under attack by Muslims. They claim it is only the extremists Muslims that murder ruthlessly, treat women like dogs, want to dominate the world and install Shariah Law. Think about it, why do the so called moderate or conservative Muslims not speak out against the radicals?
Liberal reactions...Billie O drove Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar off the set of 'The View', because he said Muslims killed us on 911, and didn't add the word 'extremist'...Whoppi almost had a coronary and Joy jumped up and said she was not going to listen to this, and she and Whoopti-do walked out...All because he didn't add the word 'extremist'...Extremists did it, mot Mahoundians...Don't blame Islam for the acts of a few 'extremists'...They never get to the part about why these 'extremists' are extreme...they just have an emotional spasm, leave the room, and sulk...It's the liberal way...
I respectfully disagree. Islam is indeed a religion but it is the only major faith which is wicked. After all, and as I have rhetorically asked several times before here at JW, where is it written that a religion must be good or at least innocuous? Islam's a religion all right but it is replete with totalitarian and sometimes purely evil elements. About no other major faith can this be said.
Got that right, duh_swami. It is the liberal way. You know, there's just something about the modern liberal mind that prevents it from seeing things clearly. Could be that such a mind is rooted in emotion and not reason. Could be due to an unconscious self-loathing. Could be just plain ignorance. And could be just sheer stupidity. Not sure of the cause or causes exactly but I can generally detect a modern liberal, as I'm sure you can, after just a few statements or sometimes, as in the case of Goldberg and Behar, mere action.
"Islam is no religion. Neither is Fascism or Communism."
I agree, since islam is more an evil governmental system with "religion" as its facade. Once someone pulls back the veil of religion that islam hides behind, then they'll find an evil death cult - not a true religion. IMO, the pc/mc mindset requires that reasonable people think of islam as a religion - but truth be told, and as I've already pointed out, islam is nothing more than a governmental system and death cult, not a religion.
Where is the outcry from moderates? By their silence, they let the extremists define Islam.
Given that Islam itself is extreme, there are no Moslem Moderates... except as imaginings living inside of Infidel brains.
*** 3:19 ***
The Religion before Allah is Islam (submission to His Will): Nor did the People of the Book dissent therefrom except through envy of each other, after knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the Signs of Allah, Allah is swift in calling to account.
The affinity between Islam and socialism (and other forms of totalitarianism) is natural: both demand central control, inculcation, ruling elites, and the suppression of freedoms -- especially free speech.
This is why Moslems have been such a hit on campus.
I would like to coin and suggest a new word especially for the 'religion of peace'; Islamatheid. It is of course derived from apartheid which is defined as the social policy of racial discrimination involving political, economic, and legal matters against those who are nonwhite. I think Islamatheid is an entirely fitting word because it is the social policy of religious discrimination based on the tenets of the kuran involving political, economic, and legal matters. It is more and more clear to me based on the news and personal research of islam its followers that it is no use to talk about fundamentalists and moderates as both promote terrorism in their own way. Its just a question of degree. The terrorists are more direct and forthcoming with their Islamatheid but the moderates either silently play along or cower due to the pressure and threats. For those muslims who are peaceful I suggest making it known as strongly as you can and to be an American first. I believe Islamatheid is a very real threat to the west based on all the historical evidence past and more current pertaining to islam and that the appeasers are either concerned with their own political careers or are so naive to think it all will be okay and they invoke few plans to counter the onslaught. Please post this so that others might consider whether this word Islamatheid might be helpful in furthering the defense against jihad islamists. I think it most helpful in its application to both fundamentalists and moderates whom I feel often try to use that position to disguise their true interests.
I wish to add as a correction to my previous post that those muslims who are peaceful should be an american first if in america but a citizen first of the country they are in whether it is the UK, Europe, Indonesia, etc. If muslims who are peaceful do not take a stand then by association with the religion that harbors terrorism to such an unprecedented degree one cannot know their true colors so to speak. I certainly would want to not be linked to terrorism if I were a peaceful muslim and I would do everything in my power to dissociate myself from fundamentalist jihadists terrorists.
Hey Wellington a wise man(I forget who)once said " a Liberal is someone who is open to anybodys opinion, and is shocked when they have one."
"Car ploughs into Rochdale nightclub crowd"
Who did it I wonder?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11560271