Allegations of "incitement" increasingly used to attempt to quash criticism of Islam

As reported in this story, a Muslim's written complaint against Geert Wilders at his trial today claimed that "My family and I no longer feel safe in the Netherlands," because of his criticism of Islam and of Muslim communities' conduct while living in the West, and because of his film, Fitna.

The claim seems like a far-fetched sob story, but it was nonetheless part of a presentation intended to represent broader Muslim opinion in order to sway the court against Wilders. And it is part of a larger trend than this court case.

Indeed, as one recalls the past few months, there has been a detectable change in approach among Islam's spokespeople and apologists.

One hardly even sees anymore the formerly classic moves to deflect criticism of Islam's teachings: the old chestnuts like "You don't speak Arabic and you're missing the subtlety," or "You're cherry-picking verses and interpreting them out of context," or the magical apologetic sleight of hand by which the "Sahih," or "sound" ahadith suddenly become less "Sahih" when their accounts of appalling behavior by Muhammad are quoted critically by non-Muslims.

Rather, there is a curious uniformity lately in attempts to portray all criticism of Islam as incitement, and examples abound. Among others, there is Daisy Khan's assertion that opponents of the Ground Zero mega-mosque represent a kind "metastasized anti-semitism" aimed at Muslims. There is Reza Aslan's slanderous labeling of Stop the Islamization of America as a Neo-Nazi group, thus implying Nazi-like intentions on its part.

There is the Organization of the Islamic Conference which, according to this report, called a book about the Danish Muhammad cartoons "provocative and inciting," and that was even after the book had been sanitized of reprints of the individual cartoons to deflect anticipated Muslim outrage. Again: Incitement to what? It's a book about drawings!

But that doesn't stop the OIC or their sympathizers who argue, as a corollary, that all criticism of Islam that can't be assuaged with a little one-way "interfaith dialogue" must be motivated by hatred, and is thus necessarily both irrational and dangerous.

Never mind, speaking of irrational and dangerous behavior, that despite all claims to "incitement," the people getting hurt in the aftermath of various "insults" are either Muslims injured or killed in Muslim countries in protests that turn to rampages, or non-Muslims threatened, attacked or murdered at the hands of Muslims who feel it is their right and duty to seek blood as recompense for hurt feelings.

No, the facts won't stop them from pressing on to stop the discussion on all levels: more immediately, that means stopping whatever debate is currently in progress, like the one surrounding the Ground Zero mega-mosque. But more broadly, the goal as explicitly stated by the OIC is to implement "a legally binding institutional instrument" to do away with such speech.

It is in this context that such testimony against Wilders has come forth.

Granted, one may argue that Muslim spokespeople have been reduced to crying "Nazi" and alleging incitement out of desperation, because they have played all their other cards unsuccessfully, and the routine has become worn out. Unfortunately, the mainstream media have proven themselves willing enablers nonetheless. But the more the "incitement" card is played, however, the more obvious it should become to those who still "believe their lyin' eyes."

And one thing is certain: as long as Islamic groups believe this approach is working, we will see more of it.

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Hello Jihad Watch.

Check this out:

WSJ:
Pakistan urges Taliban to step up attacks on NATO, Afghans

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704689804575536241251361592.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

The Long War Journal:
US officials believe the Pakistani military is spurring the recent attacks on NATO supply lines in Pakistan:

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2010/10/taliban_torch_anothe_1.php

Perhaps the moslem and his family feel threatened because the moslem community is quickly wearing out its welcome on their own behalf .

That's not good news Observer. The States is losing its influence with their bestest pals. QUICK, time to send over another 10 thousand million tax payer dollars to smooth things over.

Regarding this weeping and moaning on the parts of Muslims and Leftists, and the weeping and moaning of conservatives who are forever hushing and shushing those who don't care what they think.


Those who think themselves "good people" are forever on the defensive over this or that rude interruption of the Left narrative by "conservatives." Good people are always in a sweat over distancing themselves from the Crusades, from T. McVeigh, from today's incident whereat a woman trashed a piece of graphic art that insults Christians-- and me, and others, no doubt. Always crying and complaining that "We have to be better than that." No, there's no telling me how to behave. I don't care if others think I might make them look bad. It ain't my problem what others think others will think of them due to my behaviour. I live in a world in which individuals take responsibility for their own actions, and they do not take the blame for actions of others, even if, in their high state of piety, they fear their reputations will be tarnished in the eyes of Leftists. Who cares what the neighbours think. Not me. I don't care at all what others say about me, and I truly do not care what others say about you because of me. That shouldn't be hard to grasp, but there is a wave of fear that washes over "conservatives" when a person such as K. Folden gets righteously pissed off and does some direct action against a creepy leftard's graphics. Learn to live with the world as it is. You really have no business trying to scold others for their behaviour. If it's sufficiently bad, the cops will come, court will sit, the warden will scowl.

Stand up to Islam and Left dhimmi fascism, and there one risks the condemnation of people who don't like being associated with direct action. Well, so what. No one has any right to expect the world to behave just for the sake of not making others unhappy. If one person's behaviour "discredits" us all, then count me out of "all" altogether. I, for one, have no part in "collective" identity. Those who do have some right to demand that their fellows project a positive public presentation on behalf of the collective. That has nothing at all to do with me, nor do my actions have anything to do with anyone other than myself. Thus, I, for one, am pleased with K. Folden. Does she make "all Christians" look bad? Who gives a shit. That's for fools.

"Loveland police say a woman [Kathleen Folden, 56, of Kalispell, Mont.] with a crowbar attacked a controversial piece of art [by Enrique Chagoya, called the "The Misadventures of the Romantic Cannibals,"] and ripped it to shreds.The incident was reported at about 4 p.m. at the Loveland Museum Gallery.Witnesses said that the woman entered the gallery with a crowbar hidden in her coat. They said the woman broke Plexiglas protecting the art display and then she tore up the print."

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/25307190/detail.html

Of course "conservatives" have a right to bitch about anything they like or don't like. But they shouldn't take too seriously the reality that folks otherwise inclined aren't about to change any serious behaviour due to sensitivities of others. If Floden makes "all Christians look bad," I would say "Get over it. Who cares what you think? It's nothing to do with you, let alone all Christians." But, this is not so with Muslims.

Muslims are not individualist, do not prize freedom, and are definitely, by definition, anti-Modernists. They hang together. They are collectivists. Individualist, surprising as this will be to many, are not. I am not responsible for what another individualist does. I won't play that game, though many do because they are timid conformists afraid of scorn.

Are we supposed to fear the Muslim/Left public portrayal of Geert Wilders? Are supposed to rush out to defend Wilders? Should we feel afraid or even angry at this portrayal of Wilders or others whom the Muslim/Left condemn? Who gives a damn what others think. Screw them. Muslims and Leftist make a public spectacle of "islamophobia." So what? Why would their expressed opinion make any difference in my life? They can perform, cry and shout, gather a large crowd of Leftist supporters to dance around with them, and I don't notice because I don't care what the hell they do. If I did notice, I wouldn't care.

But we have to get along with Muslims, they comprising a billion people in the world. Ahhh, I don't care. What exactly do they do of worth that I need to pay attention to? But, I'm a racist! Oh well. But the crimes of Modernity are the worst in history! Ya, uh huh, pass the ketchup. These goofs can squawk all they like. It's just noise. Muslims and Leftists complain, and "nice people" are worried that if we don't behave properly they'll call us more names and won't like us. But I forgot what I was going to write here. I was thinking of ice-cream for dessert.

If Muslims or Leftists bitch about me or you or anyone else they claim to be evil people, I just carry on with coffee. What does it have to do with me what others think. No, there's no question mark. It's not a question. It doesn't matter to me at all what Muslims and leftards say about me, and I don't care any more than that what "conservatives" say about me not being nice to the Muslim/Left. Not my problem. My problem is that no one is demanding retaliation against the Muslim world for the treatment of Molly Norris.

People are freaked out about what others will call them if they speak or act against Islam or the Left agenda. Yeah, screw them. What about a silly leftard girl driven underground by jihadis? Where are the men in this country? Molly Norris is someone to care about, even if she's silly in the head. What Muslims and Leftists are concerned about is nothing meaningful. Screw them. What about real people like Molly Norris? She's running and hiding, and she has endless company here: the whole country terrified by Leftists calling names and shouting. We need more women with crow-bars, replacing the men we are stuck with. Folden would stick up for Norris, but I wouldn't count on the men in this nation to do more than apologise. Folden is a better man than most. Good for her.

Sam Spade sums it up for me. I hadn't noticed his piece in advance of my comment.

To Mr. Spencer:

This post by Marisol is very important and REPRESENTS A KEY TURNING POINT in the socio-political forces at play.

This is why THE TIME IS NOW to act, and you are probably one of the very, very, very few in the U.S. who has the capability of acting, based upon your knowledge, protective measures, and prominence.

I THEREFORE AGAIN URGE YOU TO PUSH YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS BY EXPOSING DEVASTATING FACTS ABOUT ISLAM IN THE WAYS I SUGGESTED IN PRIOR POSTS. Not too long from now, this may be prohibited as "incitement." Use your rights now while you have them.

Do not waste your time by arguing about whether Rauf is a crook, Gamal is a thug, what some Islamic cleric from the middle ages said, how to interpret some study about Islam from the 1990s, how biased the media is, etc. Let other people on your side do that stuff.

Maybe you are more of a scholar than a fighter, so perhaps what I am suggesting may not be appropriate for you.

The window of opportunity may snap shut very fast. Then the US will go the way of Europe and India. We may not come out from under the dark cloud for a few hundred years, until such time as people born into Muslim families allow their innate sanity to defeat their socially imposed mental poison.

To Mr. Spencer:

You may believe that most educated people know the kinds of facts about Islam that you have exposed in your books, but that belief would be incorrect.

You can consult your sales figures, but I think that an extremely tiny fraction of people really know about Islam.

IT IS MORE IMPORTANT NOW TO GET WIDE EXPOSURE OF A FEW DEVASTATING FACTS, SO THEY BECOME COMMON KNOWLEDGE, so people like Obama and Bloomberg can't tell lies in our faces.

It is less important for you to accumulate thousands of small facts that prove your points about Islam, the media, the spineless politicians, the imams, ayatollahs, etc. For people who want to listen, you have proven your case.

The classic excuses of mistranslation, misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the Qur'an are no longer much used as first line defenses by apologists for Islam because they don't work. Why not?
Well, there seems little point in saying infidels don't understand classical Arabic when Islamic terrorist groups the world over quote Al Qur'an to justify/explain their latest outrage. Subtleties inherent in classical Arabic mean nothing to worried commuters on the London underground, or tourists visiting the Eiffel Tower.

However, saying that Muslims no longer feel safe as Qur'an-quoting jihadists blow infidels sky high will also wear thin.

Islam's much vaunted lie that it is a 'religion of peace' will mean that apologists for Islam will have to continually hop from excuse to excuse as the experience of living in a world blighted by Islam unmasks that lie.


To prevent free criticism of Islam is the easiest and best way to advance Shariah in the democracies - or should we call them "post-democracies" (we should if you are prevented from criticising a totalitarian ideology.

And isn't it odd how little the MSM actually references Islamic texts that Islamic Jihadists themselves refer to? It is as if there is an unspoken conspiracy to prevent the public from actually finding out what is in the Koran, Hadith and life of Mohammed.

A complaint that what you say may be islamophobic, is these days a gun pointed directly at your head. These dhimmies know full well that your life will be in danger from islamic violence. It is like calling a white man racist in a South African township. Your life has become so meaningless, you have become so morally evil in fact, that they can pull that trigger with pleasure. You got what you deserved.

So i suggest we care about their moaning, like we care about an axe flying in your face

Don't forget the example of Imam Rauf claiming that if the Ground Zero Mosque is not built now it would incite a backlash in the Islamic world against America.

Simultaneously, it allows Muslims to make threats, whilst claiming to be peaceful and protective and mindful of the safety of people.

Its a new form of snake-oil salesmaship, a very sinister kind fo snake-oil salesmanship.


"Granted, one may argue that Muslim spokespeople have been reduced to crying "Nazi" and alleging incitement out of desperation, because they have played all their other cards unsuccessfully, and the routine has become worn out. Unfortunately, the mainstream media have proven themselves willing enablers nonetheless..."

The MSM need to be reminded of Godwin's law


"IT IS MORE IMPORTANT NOW TO GET WIDE EXPOSURE OF A FEW DEVASTATING FACTS, SO THEY BECOME COMMON KNOWLEDGE"

I second the motion, Author. Though we are not propagandists, the laws of propaganda still apply.

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”
Joseph Goebbels

This is psychological warfare, designed to trick the gullible...
The focus on 'incitement' is in itself a form of psychological terrorism...
There are some parks that have signs, 'Don't feed the bears'...Everything is fine as long as you are feeding them...When you run out of food, the bear will become 'incited' and 'terrorize' you, even worse...Mahoundians by grace of Allah, have huge ego's that need to be fed...The results of doing so, is the same as the bear...Of course, the west (or certain parts of it) has been feeding the beast of Islam...the results are predictable...

So a handful of muslim families are afraid because of what Geert Wilders has said? One man? Im waiting now for Mr. Wilders lawyers to parade a few thousand natural born Dutch families, born and bred in the netherlands for generations, through the courts who can make the same claims how they are afraid to go anywhere near muslims because of what the KORAN says!!!! In their own country no less!!!! "I see a muslim and I am afraid I will be killed because of what I read in the Koran!!!" Islam is at war with the west and its so obvious I wonder if our politicians are afraid!! Are they being threatened? Are the judges that cowardly that they too are afraid of muslims?

Obviously true! And now that he feels no longer welcome there, he has two choices:

1) Adapt to the civilized world by abandoning Islam and accepting Judaeo-Christian standards of civil behavior,

...or...

2) GO HOME.

Arthur,

Nobody is disputing the fact that we need to get broader exposure to the ideas that are being expressed here.

How would you suggest we all go about doing that?

The only things I can come up with are running my own blog (which does get some readership), participating in a group blog, and talking to people face-to-face about this issue whenever I get a chance.

If this incitement-to-violence excuse proves itself workable, then none of us has any reason any longer to control our emotions. Hot pants, mini skirts, low plunging necklines, skin-tight leotards, all suddenly become incitements-to-violence allowing any attacker or rapist to shift responsibility as to his action, and to avoid entirely any personal responsibility.

If the desserts displayed in a shop window look tempting, and they are usually so displayed to look tempting, and if I feel impelled to break the window to get one or more of the goodies, I can offer the incitement-to-violence, get-out-of-trouble card and just continue on my way.

This trick has all sorts of applications. The left has come up with yet another winner.

Here's the fact that I keep repeating:

Islam is NOT a religion in the normal sense, but an expansionist, enemy totalitarian political ideology that seeks to rid the world of everything but Islam.

Islam is inherently and irredeemably evil. As such, it has no legitimacy, it deserves no protection from law, government, or Constitution. Like Nazism and communism, it is undeserving of existence.

Islam is a Country. A Muslim is a Citizen of Islam. Sharia is the Government of the Country of Islam. Muhammad is the Founding Father of Islam. The 'Trilogy' is the Declaration of Subjugation, The Mo-stitution, and the Bill of Commands.


Prague, a sorrowing Prague, yesterday had its first day of German rule - a day in which the Czechs learned of the details of their subjection to Germany, and in which the Germans began their measures against the Jews and against those people who have "OPENED THEIR MOUTHS TOO WIDE."
-the manchester guardian march 17 1939.

Sound familiar? This is nearly the same reason given by the islamo-masochists before murdering the evangelist/lawyer Edwin Paul, his wife and their 5 children.

I(muslims) am allowed all of the Freedoms you have established as God given.
You (Free world) are allowed only the freedoms I agree to and dont find offensive.

-This is their argument, to take the very things America/Dutch/U.K/et. al. stand for and use it against us. An age old tactic, that is destined for failure, by its own inherent biases against non-believers. As we defeat their biased arguments in Court, let it not distract attention from the real issue of islamization, which breeds POISON!
sharia law has NO PLACE IN WESTERN CIVILIZATIONS.

sharia law is POISON!


islam is a '3-Dimensional' CANCER on Western Civilization.

It is more safely to stay in
Netherland than in any muslim
countries in the world....

That family in question in Netherland
should be grateful for having given
protection to live in Netherland...

GO HOME if you and your family is not happy
living in Holland..who is stopping you....


Here's what you can do.

Join a local group like ACT! For American

Join a local group like 912 Patriots

Speak out at your local church and educate people about Islam

Ask people around you what they know about Islam. Inform them, educate them and make them aware of what we face. Just the other day I was talking to a friend I've known for 13 years and she did not know a lot about the things I was saying. She will be learning soon though on her own. I gave her enough material to check it out by herself.

If you are artistic, use those god-given skills to educate people about Islam.

Great article. I think there are now both Believing and Criticizing Islam-Experts (CIE). And the CIE have been publishing in newspapers and talking on TV and internet for almost a decade and its effects are showing.

Ignorance, distortion, unfounded assumptions and deceit are ever more countered with knowledge in debate and thus ridiculed and not tolerated.

At first it was only a small group of people who were against Islamisation in Democratic countries. But now more and more people see the problem Islam presents to essential democratic laws and values.

Not only problems in Democratic countries, but much more in Islamic countries, where religious minorities are oppressed or at least heavily disadvantaged. And the world is more and more considered to be a global village. It is much more understood now that there are many global connections and causes and effects. And that on some issues it's better to look globally than to look only nationally. As we are ever better globally informed too. And as many Muslims also look global, to their "Ummah".

And now, in a way, the Islam-critical people are for Democratic principles and for a dialoque to promote them and resolve the Islam-Democracy-controverse with patient peaceful dialoque. But mind you, peaceful in the physical sence, not "respectful discourse only", with censorship for too harsh insults or criticism.

And now the Muslims, Islam-apologists and ignorant, neutral, still prejudiced people, who often don't want to: change, talk (not patiently, deeply at least), inform themselves well. And they are trying to stop the Islam-dialoque, on grounds of hate-speech, preventing community-division, and discrimination of a religious minority.

But when Muslims cling to Islam, without choosing democratic laws and values over Islamic ones, when the 2 are in conflict, they can and should be held accountable.

Knowledge about Islam is now deep in Critical Islam Experts and it gets proliferated ever broader and thanks to that the Democratic people now evolve to see the problems with Islam and to hold Muslims accountable. And that does justify careful appropriate intolerance to intolerant people.

Freedom of speech has many advantages and has led and will lead to much progress and is very precious for mankind. And freedom of speech only should have the boundary of literally (not interpretatively) inciting to violence and that people should be able to avoid listening to unwelcome opinions.

But while everyone may feel insulted/ hurt, no one has the right to NOT be insulted and hurt in a verbal way. Not even the Muslims, who seem to seek a sort of exception from the rules. Rules of freedom of speech they themselve use often against their opponents, especially the Jews.

That's one of the problems of a trial against Geert Wilders. Even if the judges set standards for freedom of speech and its boundaries in Holland, they cannot rule about the rest of the "global village", the myriad influences permeating Holland from outside, that cannot be put on trial, especially the Islamic opponents of Geert Wilders. Of necessity the judges can only curb one side of the controversy between Democracy and Islam. That alone should be grounds for acquittal.

Not too long ago, General George Patton, after he took Germany and won the war for the Allies, warned that he saw the Soviet Union as a future threat and begged that he should be allowed to go on and take Russia too. Well the Politicians decided to leave Russia alone. And look at what we have gone through with the communists. If we don't learn from history, we are bound to repeat it.

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