UPDATE: This JTA report was in error. See here.
This means CAIR is officially "moderate," right?
Well, let's look at the record: CAIR operatives have repeatedly refused to denounce Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist groups. Several of its former officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror. Two of its other officials have made Islamic supremacist statements. CAIR also was involved in the Flying Imams' intimidation suit against the passengers who reported their suspicious behavior.
CAIR has attempted to intimidate the FBI and JTTF and dictate their choice of speakers, and in doing so retailed numerous false charges, defamation, distortions, and outright lies about me, SIOA, and Pamela Geller.
CAIR has a long record of duplicity and deception. Although it has received millions of dollars in donations from foreign Islamic entities, it has not registered as a foreign agent as required by the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), despite spreading Islamic supremacist propaganda within the United States.
Although it presents itself as a civil rights group, CAIR actually has numerous links to Islamic supremacist and jihad groups. CAIR founders Omar Ahmad and Niwad Awad (who still serves as CAIR's executive director) were present at a Hamas planning meeting in Philadelphia in 1993 where they and other Hamas operatives conspired to raise funds for Hamas and to promote jihad in the Middle East. CAIR has steadfastly refused to denounce Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist groups.
Several former CAIR officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror:
* Ghassan Elashi, founder of CAIR's Texas chapter, in 2009 received a 65-year prison sentence for funneling over $12 million from the Islamic charity known as the Holy Land Foundation to the jihad terrorist group Hamas, which is responsible for murdering hundreds of Israeli civilians
* Mousa Abu Marzook, a former CAIR official, was in 1995 designated by the U.S. government in 1995 as a "terrorist and Hamas leader." He now is a Hamas leader in Syria.
* Randall Royer, CAIR's former civil rights coordinator, in 2004 began serving a 20-year prison sentence for aiding al-Qaida and the Taliban against American troops in Afghanistan and recruiting for Lashkar e-Taiba, the jihadist group responsible for the 2008 Mumbai jihad massacres.
* Bassem Khafagi, CAIR's former community relations director, was arrested for involvement with the Islamic Assembly of North America, which was linked to al-Qaida. After pleading guilty to visa and bank fraud charges, Khafagi was deported.
* Rabih Haddad, a former CAIR fundraiser, was deported for his work with the Global Relief Foundation (which he co-founded), a terror-financing organization.
In 1998 Omar Ahmad, CAIR's co-founder and longtime Board Chairman, said: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
After he received unwelcome publicity as a result of this statement, Ahmad denied saying it, several years after the fact. However, the original reporter, Lisa Gardiner of the Fremont Argus, stands by her story.
CAIR's spokesman Ibrahim Hooper once said: "I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future."
I wonder whether Judge Solis considered all this.
"Court removes 'co-conspirator' tag from Muslim groups," from the Jewish Telegraph Agency, October 22 (thanks to Abu Lahab):
WASHINGTON (JTA) -- In a decision that could inhibit efforts to stigmatize some Islamic groups, a U.S. appeals court ordered that a lower court's reference to a group's association with Hamas be expunged.The New Orleans-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit released its decision on an appeal from the North American Islamic Trust on Wednesday. It was first reported that day by Politico's Josh Gerstein.
Last year, Jorge Solis, a U.S. District Court judge in Dallas, ruled that NAIT and 245 other entities and individuals had their Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination violated when prosecutors listed them as unindicted co-conspirators in the federal case against the Holy Land Foundation, which had been charged with providing material assistance to Hamas.
Among the other groups vindicated by Solis were the Council on American Islamic Relations and the Islamic Society of North America.
The government acknowledged that not sealing the list was an oversight, and further said its intent was to list the groups and individuals as "joint venturers," which suggests a weaker association than "unindicted co-conspirator" and does not imply that the entity had knowledge of the alleged crimes.
NAIT, which owns a number of mosques, nonetheless appealed the decision because Solis ordered the decision sealed -- apparently in a bid to protect the reputation of those on the list. CAIR and ISNA did not join this appeal.
The three-judge appeals panel ordered Solis' decision unsealed and expunged one reference to past NAIT associations with Hamas, but left in another.
By clearing CAIR and ISNA of "unindicted co-conspirator" status, the unsealing of Solis' decision could have political consequences, as a number of conservative and pro-Israel groups had used the label to tar politicians associated with the groups....
That which we call a rose. By any other name would smell as sweet.
(W.S.)
and so now, despite all of the aforementioned questionable involvement by those who are enslaved by Sharia and members of these organizations,
despite all of what appears to be their evil intentions having been made known ... crimes ... habits of duplicity and brutality ...
we are now to give these adherents to the ways of Muhammad RESPECT and consider them as INNOCENTS?
we are now to give these adherents to the ways of Muhammad RESPECT and consider them as INNOCENTS?
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No... Never... Not happening.
Robert Spencer:
Al-Hilli's (I assume you know who he is) famous Shia' Shariah Law Manual (Shari' Al Islami) is now FULLY TRANSLATED into english, it is a MUST HAVE for Shia Muslims and Islamic Scholars alike here are the links for the book.
Vol. 1: http://www.al-khoei.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32_28&products_id=1294
Vol. 2: http://www.al-khoei.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32_28&products_id=1295
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About time too.
Maybe you and Pamela can find another tagline.
Bad news...but then again, CAIR's status as an unindicted co-conspirator hasn't prevented the organization from being feted by media and government institutions alike.
and, that is truly fetid.
"joint venturers"
Don't worry, people aren't juries... All are still connected, for the same purpose... Jihad..
I heartily concur with you both. Great pun, great play-on-words, Boakai. Putrescent shari'a-pushers.
In four paragraphs; What does Islam have to recommend it?
Yeah, ok...Cair, formerly an unindicted co-conspirator in the HLF case...how's that, better for you? Not that it changes anything...they are the same slimeballs as before.
"In four paragraphs; What does Islam have to recommend it?"
How 'bout one word?: Nothing.
I suppose the only recourse is to finally ... indict. But given those currently running the US Justice Department, I won't hold my breath.
How does this change anything? Does it change the historical facts of the case? Does it mean that CAIR and ISNA were not labeled as co-conspirators in the original case?
Unless there is a specific legal injunction against continuing to use the term, then it would seem to me that there would be no reason to stop referring to them as "unindicted co-conspirators." They almost certainly would not like it, but that does not constitute a good reason.
How about JW lawyers rendering an opinion of the legal implications of this case?
Well, I still trust CAIR and ISNA about as far as I can throw my house and the dwelling unit attached to it. CAIR has, on many occasions, made its supremacism and contempt for Kufr known.
Hmm... I read the story at Politico and this was not the spin Gerstin put on it. He called the decision a mixed bag as while the appeals court said that it was improper for NAIT and the others to be revealed as unindited co-consipirators the court also said there was "ample evidence" of NAIT's ties to HAMAS. Gerstin's story also noted that CAIR and ISNA were not parties to the appeal. So just how does this change anything for CAIR, ISNA and especially NAIT?
Here's a link to the original story at Politico. I'd hardly call this a victory for NAIT.
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Federal prosecutors violated the rights of a major American Islamic organization by including it in a list of unindicted co-conspirators in a terrorism-support case, a federal judge ruled in an opinion ordered disclosed Wednesday by a federal appeals court.
However, the North American Islamic Trust's decision to appeal aspects of that ruling delivered a muddled result for the organization since the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit ordered the disclosure of a court opinion which found "ample evidence" linking NAIT to Hamas and an American charity convicted of aiding Hamas, the Holy Land Foundation.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/1010/Judge_Feds_violated_Islamic_groups_rights.html?showall
Keep a sharp eye on them, they'll slip up somewhere. Next time it won't be so easy...
The court of public knowledge, reinstates "unindicted co-conspiritor" status for CAIR, ISNA and NAIT
I am in the process of reading a newly published book on the the power of Islam in Europe. It is one long tale of honor killings, forced marriages, miserable and secluded lives of women, tribal families despising the Infidel and everything European, and I cannot think of a single reason why civilized people are supposed to accept and greet this obsessive misery.
Nor can I bear thinking that CAIR are allowed to continue their triumphant whining unhindered, unchecked, unexposed.
The Muslim fanatics can't debate intelligently, because they know they're promoting lies, not historical truths! Such as their lies on the Crusade, which is usually cunnnigly used to shut up critics of Islam - I always give them back this hard truths and they stop debating; because they hate the truths! Thus is why, we have to keep pushing historical truths! See - THE REAL HISTORY OF THE CRUSADES
"....the warriors of Islam struck out against the Christians shortly after Mohammed's death... By the eighth century, Muslim armies had conquered all of Christian North Africa and Spain. In the eleventh century, the Seljuk Turks conquered Asia Minor (modern Turkey), which had been Christian since the time of St. Paul. The old Roman Empire, known to modern historians as the Byzantine Empire, was reduced to little more than Greece. In desperation, the emperor in Constantinople sent word to the Christians of western Europe asking them to aid their brothers and sisters in the East.
That is what gave birth to the Crusades. They were not the brainchild of an ambitious pope or rapacious knights but a response to more than four centuries of conquests in which Muslims had already captured two-thirds of the old Christian world. At some point, Christianity as a faith and a culture had to defend itself or be subsumed by Islam. The Crusades were that defense....." (at - http://oldarchive.godspy.com/issues/Real-History-of-Crusades-by-Thomas-Madden.cfm.html
nice link...
No fair jumping to the head of the class now. I'm trying to get IE to come out and play. You can't give out the verdict before the test.
CAIR is squeaky clean now ... notice what beautiful clothes the emperor is wearing?
Ahhh...Just in time for the election.
One less bullet for the truth gun.
So the 'co-conspirator' label is removed by the same Obama regime that refuses to prosecute Cases With White Victims?
http://weaselzippers.us/2010/10/22/wapo-confirms-holder-justice-departments-racist-policies-additional-doj-sources-say-cases-with-white-victims-not-being-prosecuted/
Well, if they're no longer co-conspirators, can we call them HAMAS FRONT or the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD then?
I know its not PC and the tarts from 'THE VIEW' would shriek, but would CAIR be able to litigate for that?
Actually,I kind of like "joint venturers".
It has a nice sneery ring to it.
It smacks of that backhanded snarkiness you run into on the Huffinton Post,every day.
This does not make cair immune to a RICO conspiracy lawsuit based upon the multiple criminal convictions of their officials. Let it be so....
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'Don't bogart that joint my friend, pass it over to me'...
That was probably one of your bests posts...Keep up the good work...
Here's help for the confused...
I took the secret code and ran it through the google translator; English to arabic to Icelandic and back to English, soooo,
here is the REAL meaning:
"The Judge of Appeal I would like the trail of the illegal actions of the Holy Land Found Filtration of the Christian Right even management justive legal government of the Christian right so decay will be removed permant beginning when she was tested evaluating the performance of a system of lawyers and all legal materials and dealing with the problem by that time will retrail voild legitimacy, they will fast U.S. citizenship. This will close the right-wing people in America."
There, fixed it.
I do think he's been grazing, but on mushrooms, not the grass.
So what's the Bush family concern with this issue? Seems like daddy bush and Jr. have been funding the islamic armies from the 60's and have continued to assign sympathetic judges and officials for years. I mean a whole war just to silence an old asset?
This will shut the rightwing people in america.
Oh no it won't, we're just getting warmed up! The thugs at CAIR will not dictate the rules of engagement for fighting islam in America. Muslims comprise less than .03% of the AMerican population so we'll be in control for the forseeable future.
It's good to learn that these groups are harmless now.
Should I remove the lock on the chicken coops out back?
"This will shut the rightwing people in america." -- DefenderofIslam
Are you kidding me? What little anti-Jihad stuff you have seen up to now is really nothing more than just artillery ranging shots. Wait until the main barrage begins.