French officials rule burqa ban legal

Oh Dear God, THANK YOU!

All free Civilized cultures must Support France as there are sure to be a backlash from the islamofacists world.

This is not even close to being finished yet! However, we must fight to keep going stronger than ever to PREVENT ISLAMOFACISM in our Lives in our Culture!

Viva La France!!!

French: Start saving your culture and your country from the Islamic Barbarians NOW. Before it's too late.

Stop further immigration, as Geert Wilders would suggest, and start deporting.

while this is excellent, please brace for riots, and terrorist attacks.

And remember, if Christian missionaries proselytize in Dar al-Islam, it's cultural imperialism and Crusading. This is bad.

If Muslims practice dawa (and therefore taqiyya) in the West, it is multiculturalism. This is good.

"...while 17% disapproved [of the burqa ban]." That is getting close to the percentage of Muslims in France. Not much support outside their own community at this point.

It doesn't say which five countries were surveyed but I would bet they are democracies and the four that polled less don't have 10% muslim population that France has. It continues to amaze me that even with the insignificant % in the US they are a royal pain in the ass already. Constantly bombarded and always pushing. I dread to imagine the trouble they would cause in the US if they were 10% of the population. Maybe I read JW too much but I've had enough of mohammedans already.

How Muslims take over.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult.

In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a mask for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their "religious" privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. In Russia, grade-schools were attacked. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:Bosnia — Muslim 40%

Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

As 'Loyal Infidel' said above: Vive la France!

This is excellent. For three hundred years, at least, the French have been the arbiters of female fashion in Europe and, indeed, beyond. I was not in the least surprised that the French, so deeply culturally conscious of the meaning of feminine dress, instinctively chose the burqa (and, indeed, the Muslim veil as such - after all, they banned the hijab in state schools) as the point where they would begin to practise saying 'No!' to Muslims.

Of course, apart from all the other things signified by this ugly Slave Mask, all of them bad, it is indisputably by far the most ugly thing that any culture has ever demanded that a woman wear in public. The streets of Paris and of other cities will be more pleasing, more attractive to tourists and to the non-Muslim locals, without the black faceless ghosts.

Who will be first to follow the sartorial example of the French? Anybody care to start a betting pool?

The Italians? (all they have to do is resolutely enforce existing law about face coverings, I believe)...the Italians have been competing vigorously with France, in the matter of haute couture, for a good long time, they really ought not to fall behind.

The Dutch? The Danes? The Swiss, who have already proposed to cut vaunting Muslim ostentation down to size, by banning minarets?

I recommend that all of us here who support the French ban on the burqa should now write forthwith to the French ambassadors in our respective countries, stating our unequivocal approval of this excellent French law; and *also* stating our unhesitating support for whatever measures France may need to take to *enforce* that law.

We have got to let the French know that across the free non-Muslim world (it would be good if they were to get letters of support from, example, jihadwatchers in India), people will be *cheering* for them, rather than carping at them, if so be they have to send in the army to squash Mohammedan 'burqa riots' in the banlieues, and if - following the suppression of such riots - they find it necessary to evict hostile, dangerous and treacherous Muslims from their soil in large numbers.

And letters to the editors in our national newspapers praising the French burqa ban and saying what a terrific thing it would be if our own nations did the same, and letters to our elected representatives, calling for a burqa ban in *our* countries on grounds of public safety and on the grounds that we should clearly oppose the principle of enslavement and degradation of women that is represented by that ghastly garment, would also be in order.

Next hurdle - enforcement. Failure to enforce this will be worse than if the ban were never passed. The police will need to be prepared for forceful and determined confrontations, something I am convinced they loathe...

Europe is offered a sobering video (found at the end of this article),

http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/10/07/german-chancellor-muslims-must-obey-german-law-not-sharia-law/

This is the would-be fate of any country which will not resist the Muslim onslaught. For Muslims, attacking the West is Allah (GINO) inspired. In fact, such attacks and resulting killing is part of the commandments of the Moon God.

This is Paris today!

http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplayer/cbnplayer.swf?aid=17933

We all must be on the same course with regards to muslim poulations and sharia law...These are small wins and are great signs, but we can NEVER forget...

"IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO BEHEAD THE SNAKE(islam)
...WE MUST ALWAYS BE ON CONSTANT VIGIL"

This is good. it is a sign and symbol of their degradation and hatefulness towards women.
This is not all which needs to be banned regarding Islam, if we are to be safe, although it is a step, (too late) in the right direction.
Finally, the French people are beginning to see what unlimited tolerance towards tyranny resulted in.

May I post this here about Geert Wilder's persecution and prosecution trial?
it would not allow me to post it over there:

I think the Netherlands will NEVER live this travesty down down, ever, for doing this terrible thing to their brave, truthful man.
He is my beloved hero FOREVER.

INFIDELS, UNITE! He and all other savaged, persecuted defenders of free infidel lands and people need ALL of our protesting voices and letters.

This tyranny will only stop when we all energetically, diligently oppose it together. We must not give up.

He is our brave and unflinching warrior, and he's in the corrupt judicial gauntlet on our behalf.

This is one of the few occasions where I will agree with some of the sentiment in these threads. The nature of French secularism is absolutely opposed to public displays of religious affectations. My own French relatives are highly irreligious people though they had a rather kooky outlook. For example, my great great grandmother was convinced that the priests and nuns were having affairs and burying their shameful offspring in the churchyard.

Anyway, this decision fits in very well with French secularism and I would not expect much different. Elsewhere, I don't really think this kind of ruling fits. If the problem is coercion, then we should ban the coercion and not the outfit. If the problem is that Muslim women are refusing to identify themselves before officers of the law, then they should be fined. Concerns over public safety or the degradation of the host culture though are flimsy. There's relatively few cases of robberies attributed to a niqab or burqa. I'd wager more men have held up banks in a dress and wig looking like Madea than they have in Islamic garb, surely we must ban Tyler Perry movies... (well, we should anyway)

I would not be surprised if the French ended up banning religion entirely some time in the future.

"Some 82 percent of people polled approved of a ban, while 17 percent disapproved."

Finally, an accurate count of how many Muslims are living in France!

The newly forming/formed dutch government under Rutte & Verhagen has together with Wilders formed a government agreement ? I don't know what you call it in english. Among it, is a plan a ban on all face covering clothing, which would include the burqa, and a ban on hijab for judges, prosecutors and police. I hope it comes through, but the opposition parties are gonna fight it tooth and nail I bet.
It's a nice gesture, but personally I think it's only fighting the symptoms, not the disease itself. As long as people believe islam is merely a religion, and as long as we don't make a stand and defend our culture and heritage, it won't help.

Italy move to ban the burka

Italy is set to become the next country in Europe to issue a burka ban after the government presented a draft proposal to parliament.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8049108/Italy-move-to-ban-the-burka.html

Italy to become next European country to ban burka after government report recommends forbidding it in public

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1318498/Italy-European-country-ban-burka-government-recommendation.html#ixzz11iJJ4pAC

The veil can not worn under duress....

Define duress. Is a husband who threatens violence duress? How about a daddy or big brother who insist with the implicit threat of an honor killing hanging in the background? What exactly is duress? And once under duress what help is a feeble insistence that purdah not be enforced by threats and even murder?

"The veil can not worn under duress." is a cop out. Of course it can and often IS. It is the sick culture which empowers the hubby, daddy, and brother mentioned above which must be condemned.

nabi ZK (pbum)

VICTORY, YEAH!

France WILL remain French and free!

Enforcement of the face mask ban must be swift and out of sight. As soon as a burqa clad female is spotted, cell phones should be reporting it to local police, toute suite, their phones at police stations should be ringing of their hooks. Then unmarked cars swoop down on the black clad masked 'slaves of islam' and whisked away before any of their 'religion of peace' slaves can raise a riot. Fait accompli. Vite, vite.

@ GerbilTea
"If the problem is coercion, then we should ban the coercion and not the outfit."

And therein lies the problem. Define coercion.
Mild, male disapproval: advice by a male Muslim to wear the burqa: an appeal to Islamic values of modesty: a clear instruction to wear it: threats: physical force?

No. Banning the outfit is the simplest way to solve the problem. Then the situation is black and white.

How can I go out with my uncovered wife on "date night?"

The new cabinet in The Netherlands which will be formed this week by Mark Rutte, consisting of VVD (Mark Rutte as PM) and CDA (Maxime Verhagen as vice-PM)supported by Geert Wilders' PVV in parliament, will ban the burqa by law.
The "head-shawl" will also be banned for all public servants in public buildings.

Erik Mokum from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Don't expect this DUMMY, I mean DHIMMI, to do the same in the D.K.(Disunited Kingdom...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/woody_of_brum/4993537589/in/set-72157624527247651/

CENSORED

http://www.flickr.com/photos/woody_of_brum/5060744620/

Banning the burka is not just for law enforcement identification purposes or because it looks creepy to some people, it is a deliberate slap in the face of Islamic supremacy, it is the French gov telling Islam that 'we' set the rules around here, not you'...Don't expect Islam to 'turn the other cheek'...Allah has no cheeks...

Now if the United States would follow suit. I'm sick of tolerating this crap. If they don't like the laws of a country, they can go to the Middle Eastern countries, where they can wear the burqa freely and worship Allah. I am for religious freedom, but this is not a religion to me - it is a political organization which rules people through fear and torture. We must make sure that it is not allowed here.

Seeing as how wearing in public a burka or hijab is making a statement i for one when passing by such must state: "Freedom".

France is just so full of surprises, since they are generally known for being cowardly. "BAN THE BURQA!" Hey this is great news! And the burqa is such a fashion Don't and ghoulish looking beyond compare (but it does suit the death cult that it represents). At any rate, Yay to the banning! Now if they could only ban the death cult itself: islam. One step at a time. I can dream, can't I ...

Although France has decreed the ban legal, the EU authorities will probably decide it is against EU law and as the EU is getting rid of Nation States by taking their powers one by one over the years, their wishes will take precedence.

It is disgusting but I don't believe France can make that unilateral decision anymore. I am hoping to be proved wrong.