Reza Aslan, smear merchant and apologist for oppression, featured (with Spencer) on ABC/Christiane Amanpour whitewash of jihad and Islamic supremacism

reza_new_small.jpgReza Aslan: "My hairdresser says this hairstyle makes me look like less of an anti-infidel freedomphobic bigot"


As I noted here, Wednesday night I took part in Christiane Amanpour's jihad whitewash on ABC's "This Week" show. It will run at 11AM Eastern on Sunday morning, but I won't be watching, as Amanpour was enthusiastically fronting for the Islamic supremacists and dissemblers throughout the whole program. You can see here about how Amanpour cut off discussion of how Daisy Khan of the Ground Zero mega-mosque initiative was flagrantly lying.

Perhaps Amanpour has no trouble with departures from truth and accuracy, if she saw and approved this press release/news article about the show, as it is riddled with exaggerations and inaccuracies: "Amanpour to Host Special Town Hall; Locale Undisclosed," by Betsy Rothstein for Media Bistro, September 30:

A special ABC "This Week" town hall meeting is taking place in New York City, where Christiane Amanpour will moderate a live debate "Holy War: Should Americans Fear Islam?"

This gives the false impression that the debate will be broadcast live. Actually, it was taped on Wednesday evening. It was live then, to be sure, but it went on for two hours, and they're going to cut it down to one. Plus, they filmed me walking out of my hotel room and in a brief interview in a cab going to the location of the debate, and I understand they did such filming with all the other panelists as well. So of the two hours filmed, probably about 45 minutes will be used, and judging from Amanpour's relentless bias throughout the taping, I am sure that those who were assigned to be on the "fear Islam" side will come off as poorly as the editors can possibly manage.

Also, the whole show was wrongly framed in the first place. I do not believe that Americans should fear Islam. I believe that all free people should recognize the threat to freedom posed by Islamic supremacism, and act to defend the freedoms threatened by the jihad -- notably the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people before the law. That is not a matter of fear. The response to Islamic supremacism should not be fear, but resolution, determination, courage, and perseverance.

ABC is not revealing the exact location of the town hall due to security reasons.

A ridiculous hype bubble, which under the circumstances I am happy to puncture: the town hall was filmed Wednesday evening between 7 and 9PM at ABC's studios on 44th Street in Times Square. I didn't see any security guards present, but there was a whole studio full of invited audience members. An ABC producer told me beforehand that I could invite five people to be in the audience. There were three panelists on each side, so if each one had invited five guests, that would have filled the audience with thirty people, equally divided on the issue. But there were about 150 people in the studio, and easily 140 of them were enthusiastically on the side of Daisy Khan and Reza Aslan.

Where did they all come from? Were the "fearers of Islam" allowed to bring five guests each while the "non-fearers of Islam" allowed to bring fifteen or twenty each? I don't have any direct information on that, but it would certainly explain the makeup of the crowd.

Noteably [sic], 2000 presidential hopeful Gary Bauer will be there. Who can forget him falling off a podium during a Bisquick pancake flipping contest? Refresh your memory here.

A nasty cheap shot revealing that Media Bistro too employs propagandizing pseudo-journalists.

The guests: Evangelist Franklin Graham, Daisy Khan -- Executive Director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement and one of the leading organizers behind the planned mosque and Islamic community center in New York City, Azar Nafisi, Author of "Reading Lolita in Tehran," Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, Peter Gadiel of the 9/11 Families for a Secure America Foundation, and Donna Marsh O'Connor of the September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows.

The town hall meeting airs Sunday, October 3 on "This Week with Christiane Amanpour."

Other special guests...

Reza Aslan, Contributing Editor of The Daily Beast and Author of "No god but God," and "Beyond Fundamentalism"
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Author, "NOMAD" Resident Scholar at American Enterprise Institute
Gary Bauer, President of American Values
Brad Garrett, Former FBI Special Agent and ABC News Contributor
Imam Ossama Bahloul, Islamic Center Of Murfreesboro, TN
Anjem Choudary, Islam4UK

And so to Reza Aslan. Amanpour had clearly arranged for Aslan to appear on the show via video hookup from Amsterdam at least in part in order to smear me -- at one point she mentioned that I was co-founder of Stop Islamization of America, but instead of going to me for comment, or even to ask me some pointed question, she said that Aslan had background on the roots of the Stop Islamization movement in Europe, and went to him. Aslan then lied outright, claiming that the movement was neo-Nazi, and slinging charge after unsubstantiated charge that I was a bigot, a hatemonger, a racist, a pseudo-scholar, an eater of babies, etc. When I tried to respond, Amanpour put her finger to her lips and shushed me, although I went on anyway -- I doubt, however, that my responses will make the broadcast version.

At one point I was able to note that the Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf of the Ground Zero mega-mosque initiative openly called for restrictions on the freedom of speech in his book What's Right with Islam -- whereupon Aslan, to the great delight of the crowd, asked, "Who doesn't realize that freedom of speech is not unlimited?" He elided, of course, the distinction between legitimate restrictions on free speech -- calling for the murder of individuals, etc. -- and the kinds of restrictions that Rauf meant: as an open advocate for Sharia, Rauf would doubtless favor the Organization of the Islamic Conference's campaign to limit discussion of Islam and jihad in the West, rendering us mute and defenseless before the advancing jihad. In coming out for restrictions on freedom of speech when that is unmistakably what was meant, Aslan revealed his little totalitarian heart and eagerness to serve as an apologist for oppression.

Some of the smears Aslan hurled Wednesday night are in a piece he wrote on September 9 for the Daily Beast about our September 11 Rally of Remembrance against the Ground Zero mega-mosque, "The Charlatans Have Taken Over 9/11." I ignored it at the time it came out, as it is just a tissue of defamation and lies, but now that ABC is going to give this sleazy smear merchant a platform on Sunday morning, I thought a response was in order.

There is little of substance in the piece; Aslan prefers to deal in vitriol, and the Daily Beast's header starts the smears off in style:

A group of opportunists planning an anti-Islam rally at Ground Zero Saturday are hijacking a day reserved for mourning and reflection. From Geert Wilders, the infamous anti-Muslim Dutch politician to Pam Geller, an influential blogger, Reza Aslan on bigots using 9/11 to spread more hate.

So now standing with the 70% of Americans who believe that the Ground Zero mega-mosque is an insult makes you an "opportunist." Standing for freedom and equality for all against Islamic supremacism and Sharia, which denies the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and equality of rights for all, makes you "anti-Muslim," as well as "infamous" and guilty of spreading "hate." Meanwhile, carrying water for an oppressive ideology that silences dissidents and enslaves women is multicultural and broad-minded. Got it.

Aslan then begins with a barrage of smear words, semaphoring to his besotted hard-Left easy-mark readers at the Daily Beast that the people who are behind the resistance to the Ground Zero mega-mosque are The Enemy:

The international gathering of wingnuts, far-right ideologues, Euro-fascists, and anti-Muslim hate groups that will gather at ground zero Saturday should dispel any illusion that the fury over the Park51 Project, otherwise known as the "ground zero mosque," was ever a controversy solely about location.

None of these labels have any actual substance. Aslan could just as well have written "The international gathering of bad guys and poopyheads that will gather at ground zero Sunday..." That is about the intellectual level at which he operates anyway. In reality, the Rally was in defense of American principles of liberty and justice for all, against the Islamic supremacist imperative that would deny liberty and justice to all. And it is clear which side Reza Aslan is on.

More "poopyheads" rhetoric from Aslan follows:

On the ninth anniversary of the attacks of 9/11, a group calling itself Stop Islamization of America is planning an anti-Islam rally at that hallowed ground, hijacking a day that is supposed to be reserved for mourning and reflection and instead using it to spread their bigotry and hate.

Stop Islamization of America is an offshoot of a European neo-Nazi organization called Stop Islamization of Europe, whose motto is "Racism is the lowest form of human stupidity, but Islamophobia is the height of common sense." The American wing of the organization, which is also behind some of the mosque protests taking place all across the country, is headed by two fringe figures, Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer.

There is, of course, nothing neo-Nazi about SIOE, and its motto is merely making the point that to resist Islamic supremacism is not racism, and that it is reasonable to be concerned about the advance of Islamic supremacism in the West. I don't personally like the motto, as it is open to being misinterpreted -- as Aslan does, probably willfully, here. He wants his hapless readers to believe that SIOE means that people should cultivate bigotry and hatred toward innocent Muslims, when in reality it's quite obvious that they mean resisting the advance of the jihad. Here again, in Reza Aslan we're not dealing here with a writer who is interested in playing fair or presenting a reasoned argument based on facts.

More name-calling:

Geller is the real face of the organization--the queen nut of the wingnuts, if you will. Before gaining international fame as the person who almost single-handedly turned the Park51 Project into the mosque at ground zero, Geller was a journalist for the New York Daily News and former associate publisher of The New York Observer. After 9/11, she says she dedicated her life to stopping the spread of Islam in America.

Aslan drops yet another lie. Pamela Geller has never said that she dedicated her life to stopping the spread of Islam in America, and I challenge Reza Aslan to produce this "quote." She has said that she has been dedicated to stopping the spread of political Islam in the U.S., as SIOA's motto reflects: "SIOA is a human rights organization dedicated to freedom of speech, religious liberty, and individual rights; no special rights for special classes." Insofar as elements of Islam are opposed to those freedoms and principles, Pamela Geller is opposed to those elements of Islam. So is Reza Aslan saying that to defend free speech and religious liberty against Sharia, which manifestly denies them both, is to oppose Islam? That would belie his vaunted "moderate" status, no?

Her blog, Atlas Shrugs, is a mishmash of her inane views on a wide range of social and political issues. However, a quick read of the blog reveals that one of her favorite topics of discussion is the "Muslim in the White House." I'm not exaggerating. The nonpartisan media watchdog group Media Matters for America has counted 267 posts on her blog with that exact phrase.

That's right. Geller is one of the 20 percent of Americans who believe that President Barack Obama is a secret Muslim out to destroy America from inside the White House. "Hussein is a Muhammadan," Geller writes in one post about the president, using his middle name. Another post warns Americans that "The president of the United States is advancing jihad against the oath of office that he took."

Pamela Geller has never said that Obama is a secret Muslim. That Obama is advancing the Islamic agenda, whether or not he is Muslim himself, is so abundantly clear from his policies, and so widely understood today, that it is rather staggering that Aslan would adduce all this as some sort of evidence that Pamela Geller is "the queen nut of the wingnuts." He has bullied Israel, he has coddled Iran, he has said that one of his chief duties as president is to dispel stereotypes of Islam, he has made overtures to Hamas and the Taliban, he has told the NASA chief that one of his principal duties is to make Muslims feel better about themselves -- on and on and on.

It should be noted that Geller is an equal-opportunity bigot, having spread her venom to her Jewish enemies as well. She has referred to Abraham Foxman, the extremely conservative, extremely pro-Israel president of the Anti-Defamation League, as "a self-hating wretch," called the pro-Israel/pro-peace political action committee J-Street "Kapos" (the term for Jews who helped Nazis during the Holocaust), and Photoshopped a picture of Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan (who is Jewish) in a Nazi uniform on her blog.

Aslan doesn't mention that Pamela is also Jewish, as it would interfere with the neo-Nazi smear he is trying to construct. Note also that he doesn't explain the circumstances of any of these things, so as to give the impression further that she is antisemitic. In reality, to call Foxman "extremely conservative" is laughable, and she called him and others "self-hating wretches" for their attacks on Geert Wilders, Rush Limbaugh, evangelical Christians, and other friends of Israel. She attacked J Street for being a George Soros-funded front funded by anti-Israel Muslims. And the Kagan photoshop came after it was revealed that Kagan had cited a German Marxist who became a Nazi when Hitler took power.

Perhaps this pedigree is why the scheduled keynote speaker for the anti-Islam rally at ground zero, GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich, suddenly backed out of his commitment, citing a "scheduling conflict." Having repeatedly and unapologetically associated American Muslims with al Qaeda in his media discussions about the Park51 Project, and then having gone one step further by ratcheting his anti-Islam discourse to "the Hitler level," as Jim Galloway put it in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Gingrich decided that it may not be the best idea for him to stand side by side with the likes of Geller and Spencer. But, if I may be allowed to conjuncture, it may be that the person Gingrich wanted most to avoid is the guest of honor at Saturday's event--the flamboyantly fascist, anti-Muslim Dutch politician and professional provocateur Geert Wilders.

"If I may be allowed to conjecture"? This whole paragraph was conjecture. He has no evidence -- nor is there any, because it isn't true -- that Gingrich backed out of the rally either because he didn't want to be seen with us or because he didn't want to be seen with Wilders. A responsible journalist might have contacted Gingrich and simply asked him. But we're not talking about a responsible journalist, we're talking about Reza Aslan, a man who confuses a freedom fighter -- Wilders -- with a fascist.

Wilders has made a name for himself throughout Europe both for his extreme anti-immigration policies (ironically, Wilders' mother was born in modern day Indonesia, making him a second-generation immigrant) and his outrageous statements against Muslims. While some brand Wilders as a lunatic for his more ridiculous policies, like taxing Muslim women for the headscarf or banning the Quran from the Netherlands, his use of Islam as a scapegoat for Dutch issues--particularly the flailing economy and rising crime rate--has actually been quite successful. His political platform is a simple one: "More security, less crime, less immigration, less Islam."

You can find an explanation of Wilders's statements on the Qur'an banning here. Note that here Aslan is using a tried-and-true tool of the Left: to simply state their opponents' positions (although I would doubt that his summaries of Wilders's policies are entirely accurate) as if they were self-evidently ridiculous. It certainly saves on the time and trouble of refuting them, but the reader who sees through Aslan's rhetoric will be left with an empty feeling: he hasn't actually done one thing to explain why these policies, insofar as they are presented here accurately, should be rejected.

Wilders' success in Dutch politics comes from his ability to exploit Dutch fears of economic uncertainty to make his case against Islam and Muslims. His method, as Ian Buruma pointed out in an op-ed for The New York Times, "is to expose the intolerance of Muslims by provoking them. If they react to his insults, he can claim that they are a threat to our native liberties. And if anyone should point out that deliberately giving offense to Muslims is neither the best way to lower social tensions nor to protect our freedoms, Wilders will denounce him as a typical cultural elitist collaborating with "Islamo-fascism."

About Buruma's comments, see Hugh Fitzgerald's piece here.

And anyway, here again, one's response to stimuli is under one's own control. If you insult me, I do not have to kill you in response. Do Buruma and Reza Aslan think that Muslims are angry animals who must not be provoked, in the name of lowering social tensions? Who's the racist now?

That is exactly the playbook of anti-Muslim groups like Stop Islamization of America: Link fear of the recession to fear of Islam. Link fear of terrorism to fear of Islam. More security = Less Islam.

Aslan retailed this farrago on the Amanpour show also. It is arrant nonsense. Here again, I challenge this miserable smear merchant to find one place where Pamela Geller or I have ever linked the recession to the global jihad. I have noted the undeniable billions that have been spent since 9/11 to protect Americans and Europeans from Aslan's more violent coreligionists, but I've never said this caused the recession, and as far as I know neither has Pamela Geller. Here again, this man is a base and brazen liar.

In fact, Geller and Spencer together also run the group Freedom Defense Initiative, which, in its own words, is focused on stopping "specific Islamic supremacist initiatives in American cities" and finding "infiltrators of our federal agencies." As one can imagine, this is a huge project: weeding out Muslim infiltrators in the U.S. government.

A misrepresentation, of course, but certainly we are concerned about infiltrators at high levels. Has Reza Aslan ever heard of Abdurrahman Alamoudi? I suspect that he has.

After all, as FDI board member Joseph Kay has said, "Every person in Islam, from man to woman to child, may be our executioner. In short, that there are no innocents in Islam ... all of Islam is at war with us, and that all of Islam is/are combatant(s).[sic]"

Joseph Kay? Who the heck is Joseph Kay? Aslan, with typical attention to detail and accuracy, has thus mangled the name of John Joseph Jay, who replied to this smear here.

Therein lies the crux of the Stop Islamization argument. For Geller, Spencer, Wilders, and a growing number of Americans, there is absolutely no difference between what they term "Islamist supremacists" and any other Muslim. That is the definition of bigotry: painting 1.5 billion people across the planet with the exact same brush.

"Islamic supremacists," not "Islamist supremacists," you dope. And in any case, Aslan here comes to his culminating lie: that we believe that all Muslims are advancing the jihad. Here again, I challenge to find any place where I have said that, or where Pamela Geller has said that. He can't, because we haven't, and in fact are on record many times making the distinction between Muslims who are not advancing the jihad cause and those who are.

But why let the facts get in the way, eh, Reza?

These are the people we're to believe are so concerned with the sanctity of ground zero that they cannot abide by the construction two blocks away of a community center dedicated to inter-religious cooperation. Yet they are willing to hijack the anniversary of a day in which inter-religious cooperation should be foremost on our minds in order to spout their vile, bigoted, and yes, un-American ideology. I can think of no greater desecration to the victims of 9/11.

And I can think of no greater desecration of journalism and academia that Reza Aslan is taken seriously.

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Looks like Aslan might decide to expose Spencer.

Quick Robert, smear him with lies!

Robert: "Uh, um.... taqiyya!"

Another successful cop-out by Robert Spencer.

You know, Robert, that term you used - freedomphobic - has kind of a catch to it. Perhaps it would be the better descriptor of the left.

"he has said that one of his chief duties as president is to dispel stereotypes of Islam"

Oh nooo! How evil!

["Islamic supremacists," not "Islamist supremacists," you dope.]


That's right Spencer, carp about two letters. That's what people do when they're winning.

Anyways, it shows that you're not opposed to Islamic law (Islamist) but to Muslims (working at NASA and wearing headscarves).

"that I was a bigot, a hatemonger, a racist, a pseudo-scholar, an eater of babies"

Oh poor Robert.

Sniffle, sniffle...

Anyways, the only thing you aren't of those things mentioned is "an eater of babies". Of course that was never implied by the program, you simply made it up (no surprise there)

You're a racist when it comes to Turks (for your followers who would say "Islam isn't a race").

I'm not sure why Robert and Pamela even bother going on these shows when the MSM is going to do their obvious smear tactics. Personally I would only go on shows I know that are going to be at least fair and represent equal sides of the issue.

Recycled Abdullah Mikail? ...or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

Get lost troll...You have nothing worth while to say, and you are spamming...

'The Beast' is an Islamic smear site, steeped in hate and discontent...The deck was stacked, a stacked deck is dishonest...The only reason to appear with these scum is to let them identify themselves as scum...
Like the troll above...

Get lost troll...You have nothing worth while to say, and you are spamming...

'The Beast' is an Islamic smear site, steeped in hate and discontent...The deck was stacked, a stacked deck is dishonest...The only reason to appear with these scum is to let them identify themselves as scum...
Like the troll above...

If Robert Spencer has lied about Aslan, please expose the lie.

Not sure what you mean by cop out. Spencer is confronting the lies of Aslan.

Why could not Fox News host such a "debate"? Or would this have been militated against by muslim billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, the 2nd Largest Shareholder of News Corp, after the Murdoch family ? ABC is useful idiot territory.

Anyway, in spite of the likely edit-skewing of the debate against the forces of reason & knowledge represented by Spencer & friends, I think most of the public that will be viewing this are not stupid and overall this will be positive publicity for Robert et al.

@Evil Taqiyya Artist

It's better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt.

The OIC steps up calls to combat 'islamophobia' and like clockwork journolisters of the msm fall in lockstep showering expensive airtime on behalf of non-existent Islamic virtues:

NBC News Tours Hezbollah’s Terrorist Theme Park in Lebanon

60 Minutes: Scott Pelley Looks At The National Debate On The Planned Islamic Center Near Ground Zero

NPR: 'Ground Zero Mosque': Latest In A Litany Of Killer Phrases

MSNBC: Olbermann: There is no ‘Ground Zero Mosque’

CNN A look inside NYC Islamic center imam’s mosques and CNN New York Muslim-American leaders gather to show support for Park51


Despite this unified effort by journolisters . . .few are buying any of it. Most folks I know - sneer at the msm's constant assault on our/their sensibilities. No longer satisfied with changing the channel, they simply turn off the television set.

Is it any wonder Trust in media continues to crater?


Don't worry about Reza Aslan. He is an islamist. He defended thef muslim brotherhood in a discussion with sam harris on youtube. According to Reza, the muslim brotherhood is not a terrorist organization. Well, it has these strange offshoots like hamas,.hhmmmm

I think you wont have any trouble to expose him for what he is in the next encounter.

Spencer has called Muslims who argue for a more peaceable version of Islam "taqiyya artists". Their arguments are better than his, thus he can't refute them. He simply smears them--a cop-out.

You know that it's hypocrital to call me a spammer when you yourself have posted the same comment twice?

"'The Beast' is an Islamic smear site, steeped in hate and discontent...The deck was stacked, a stacked deck is dishonest...The only reason to appear with these scum is to let them identify themselves as scum...
Like the troll above..."

Is everything an Islamic conspircay to you people?

Well, if you haven't noticed, the article starts with an obvious lie.

[Reza Aslan: "My hairdresser says this hairstyle makes me look like less of an anti-infidel freedomphobic bigot"]

Seriously, Robert, I ask as an admirer: why would you appear on a show controlled by ABC and Ms. Amanpour? It should have been obvious that it would have been self defeating from the get-go.

Nice saying Zulu

"It's better to be silent and thought a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt."

Good advice, I suggest you give it to your Jihadwatch buddies who make their bigotry and ignorance quite obvious.

Evil says:

"Spencer has called Muslims who argue for a more peaceable version of Islam "taqiyya artists". Their arguments are better than his, thus he can't refute them. He simply smears them--a cop-out."

Please provide an example of a Muslim that argued for a more peaceable version of Islam which Spencer called "taqiyya artist".

I would only call "taqiyya artist" someone practicing deception towards kuffars.


Name three POSITIVE contributions to humanity (translation: Infidel AND Muslims) that has grown from the fertile soil of Islam.

I'll make it easy of you. NAME ONE!

Caution folks! apparently this insightful(EvilnandstupidTA)
idolater of mohamad, the enlightened child molester,is doing the most creative thing a muslim can do; explode their entrails and excrement all over the place, only this time it is the vile refuse of emanating form his sick and brainwashed mind serving as the deadly shrap metal, LOL and ROFLA times 1000, hahahah

Even if stacked against Freedom defenders at those shows, I want them to keep trying. The truth is always more powerful than lies.

Freedom is not the norm in the Human experience as we sometimes do in the West. The norm is for Humanity to be slave to Pharaohs, Emperors, Kings, Prophets, Warlords, Feudal Lords, etc, etc, etc.

It would be a tragedy for Humanity to lose the current Freedoms we have to Sharia.

Imagine for a second that you are in the Germany of 1920s. Knowing what you know now, would you stop from going into the biased German radio shows if you have an opportunity to unmask proponents of a Totalitarian ideology? I wouldn't stop from trying to unmask the anti-Freedom proponents and neither should you.

"Evil Taqiyya Artist" -- third request on some unanswered questions, if you're not too busy hurling drive-by insults. I think this is quite germane to a thread on Islamic supremacism.

Why didn't al-Azhar, one of the highest seats of learning in Sunni Islam, kick Umdat al-Salik to the curb as un-Islamic, but rather, certify it as "reliable?"

More importantly:

Do you, ETA, repudiate the death penalty for apostasy from Islam?

And I've got more:

Do you repudiate idea of a status that is lesser in any way for non-Muslims in Muslim countries?

Do you repudiate the jizya tax?

Do you repudiate stoning as a penalty under any circumstances?

Do you repudiate Hamas as a terrorist group?

Yes or no?

No answering questions with questions. If you produce anything less than a straightforward answer, you will show you have something to hide.

And don't forget the Coptic Christian commenter to whom you never responded.

@Evil Taqiyyah Artist

Islam is an evil totalitarian ideology that hates God and Life and extinguishes creativity. It loves only power. It is an imprimatur and excuse for barbarians who think they're demigods to leash bloodshed on civilization.

What are YOU going to do about THAT??

What's the matter, Evil ?

Looks like Mr. Spencer has got you all riled up ! Now why would that be ?

Your not even good at Taqiyya. Your pathetic attempts to attack Spencer are so child like, that I'm surprised you even posted them.

You should feel embarrassed.


Don't worry Robert, ever since Amanpour took over the viewership numbers have been tanking faster than Rick Sanchez's career.

robert:

i am sorry that you didn't have the chance to ask amanpour why she hasn't gone to iran to cover the uprising against the mullahs? perhaps if she could arrange to have the safety of u.s. troops as per usual, the famous war correspondant might answer the call.

at any rate, two contrary observations.--

1.)you are to be congratulated for the courage of bearding the lion(s) in her den(s).

and,

2.)never engage in a pissing contest with skunks.

i know that you do battle whenever a battle and a battlefield present themselves, and for that you are to be commended. but, these programs as put on by amanpour are not debates nor even discussions, but, to the contrary, they are ambushes designed to impugn you and those with whom you associate, and they are calculated to destroy you if possible or diminish you if that is all they can do.

amanpour is as pro arab and pro arab-muslim as she can possibly be, and as much the enemy as if she carried a rifle. again, i admire your pluck and courage, and i suspect that now and again with clear and lucid points you win a convert or two, but i am not so sure it is worth the aggravation when people who are more open to reason and persuasion are out there to be nurtured.

you are going to turn very many zealots.

john jay

p.s. you are a warrior and a champion, and have mighty accomplishments, w/ more to come. that is not open to doubt. you have my admiration. but, it is best to pick the battle where some advantage may be won from it in victory, and to avoid battles where victory does not avail much.

p.s.s. "evil taqiyya artist." yes, you are. and, appropriately named. and, little more than an adolescent dumb-assed smart ass. but, you are consistent, i will give you that.

@Evil Taquiyya Artist

Unfortunately for you, evil is ALWAYS stupid. So we should call you Stupid Taquiyya Artist.

Why is evil always stupid (and I don't mean you specifically)

Because evil is LAZY. It covets everything yet products NOTHING.

Evil covets and steals. See how easy it is to break the Ten Ccommandments, evil?

But ISLAM, the GREAT ISLAM, has a solution around that. Its Sura 2, The Cow. It teaches you how to break each of the ten commandments.

Thou shall not murder? NO PROBLEM!!! Thou shall not murder EXCEPT against others spreading "corruption in the land" and other EXCUSES.

ISLAM IS THE BOOK OF RULES ON HOW TO BREAK GOD'S LAWS IN ALLAH'S NAME!!

How stupid does one have to be to fall for that? How vacuous ?

How dull the brain,
that against infidels proclaims
"You're to blame
that I'm insane!!"

Just out of curiosity, what is it that creatures like you and that little pussy Reza Aslan expect to get out of the Triumph of the Caliphate? We all know what Amanpour wants -- she is an insatiable power and attention whore and she expects to get even more in a Sharia state even if she has to cover herself up in a burka bag and get her clit snipped to do it.

Even the filthy Nazis thought they "believed" in something "heroic". But you don't. I doubt even most "educated" muslims even believe in the oogie-boogie of allah and his psychotic groupie mohammed. You might like to fantasize that the big turban-and-nightshirt guy in the sky has special rewards in store for you, but you know it's really all pigcrap, don't you. Essentially you are a nihilist. You like to see people destroyed or, better yet, subdued and subjugated and made to do as they are told by the likes of you.

No Islamist deserves respect.

I respect those who continue to wade through this filth for the sake of the few functioning minds who will pay attention when they hear sense talked. These are the only people who count at this point. Because when the filthy turbaned wrapped nightshirted scimitar waving camel riding razzia conducting woman raping mass mudering deluded power-mad desert savages you are under your thin film of civilization make the Big Mistake (you know, like the one the Empire of Japan made on 12/07/41) you need to remember two words: Hiroshima. Nagasaki.

And two more: Mecca. Medina.

Mecca is not worth the life of one American soldier.

That is my opinion. I don't expect it to be Robert's or any one else's here. This is my freedom of speech, and I hope that, in the end, we wipe your filthy cult off the face of the earth as we did Bushido and Nazism.


Robert included Obama's middle name while refering to him.

Well that proves it, Robert is a Joooooo! lol oh my that's funny!

lil redbird said:

"Just out of curiosity, what is it that creatures like you and that little pussy Reza Aslan expect to get out of the Triumph of the Caliphate?"

The bottom line is they crave power. They expect to ride the wave into powerful positions in that Caliphate. Power is intoxicating for a lot of people. They will sell their soul to the devil to be able to exert power over others. There lies the attraction of Totalitarian ideologies. The top dog is unbelievably powerful. Literally they have the lives and deaths of millions in their hands. For people lusting for power, it's the ultimate drug.

The gallup poll listed is even more revealing.

Nightly News has dropped quite a bit from its high of 62%. So many people know the media is biased. Instead of being spoon fed crap they know is biased they would rather get it from a cable news source more to their like.

While more people are tuned into Politics, they are relying on local news, cable and internet news to give them the information. Is it any wonder? The MSM have proven what their game plan is and people are onto it and just don't like it.

robert:

correction: that should be, "you are not going to turn very many zealots."

evil taqiyya artist:

i owe you an abject apology. i should have written, as regards you,

"and, little more than a smarmy adolescent dumb-assed smart ass."

and for the obvious omission i am sorry.

john jay

As a Canadian I feel outrage for those who lost loved ones during 9/11 and watch their President wallow/cower to muslms who want to rub salt into the wounds of America. Hopefully Robert et al will get enough airtime after the editing to get their message across.

"Tom Shales reviews Christiane Amanpour's lackluster debut on ABC's 'This Week'"
[Excerpt]:
"Perhaps in keeping with the newly globalized program, the commendable 'In Memoriam' segment ended with a tribute not to American men and women who died in combat during the preceding week but rather, said Amanpour in her narration, in remembrance of 'all of those who died in war' in that period. Did she mean to suggest that our mourning extend to members of the Taliban?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/01/AR2010080102551.html

As Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Geert Wilders and many other critics of Islam have found, with very few exceptions, the MSM in the U.S. and internationally, is ideologically programmed to censor fair reporting, analysis and debate on key issues relating to Islam.

In a different context, even Glenn Beck, in his educational discussions of Obama's ideology in his 'Fox News' programmes finds that there is an instinctive dismissal without debate, by the pro-Obama camp.


As a Canadian I feel outrage for those who lost loved ones during 9/11 and watch their President wallow/cower to muslms who want to rub salt into the wounds of America. Hopefully Robert et al will get enough airtime after the editing to get their message across. I also can't think of another writer/author who is less bias, but uses facts and direct quotes to make his points.

Robert, I doubt very much whether Amanpour treats you with as much respect as she does Ahmadinejad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNWERIn3BhA

It's telling that the taqiyya artist (my what an approprate name) ignores the vast majority of this piece, seemingly not caring about Reza's blatent lies that are exposed here (and, as always with the Moslems, heaping the projection on thick).


As for "harping on two letters", there is a stark difference between "Islamic" and "Islamist", the first being the descriptive of a manifestation of Islam, the second being an empty shell of a concept invented by ignorant westerners who have never read or studied the Qur'an or Sunnah, or read and studied different Tafsir, Madhhab and the rulings of notable Ulama.

My how sad the trolls are, how low they must stoop. They must have noticed that even the commenters at HuffPo, CNN and MSNBC are turning against Islam in droves. The truth cannot be kept from the masses forever, and the Jihadist thugs like our little taqiyya spouting friend here know it, and feel the heat.

The taquiyya kid's TypePad link redirects to a userid "jacksonblackson." We've seen him here before.

It's funny how he complains about other people's remarks, when he picked his own nickname here...

Tyrants are Freedomphobic just as survivors of 9/11 are Islomophobic. (Applying an Orwellian twist on the definition of phobia to mean the opposite of irrational.)

Islamo-fanatics, those at the top of the Islamic power and wealth hierarchy, must resist freedom at all costs. Freedom is the enemy; the enemy of this particular ideology as well all other ideological rationalizations for tyranny and oppression by humans upon fellow humans.

The label SIOA is not expansive enough to mean advancement of freedom everywhere nor does it encapsulate the notion that a free country is made more free by the assertive introduction of freedom to territories now governed by tyrants, some of whom have megalomaniac ambitions of world domination.

SIOA, if anything, is too passive.

Take all of Christiane Amanpour's arguments (ABC's arguments) against Robert and Pamela and interpose them against Simon Deng and Francis Bok.


Read "President Obama's Rwanda moment" for context.

To Simon Deng and Francis Bok, Christiane Amanpour must look identical to Omar al Bashir, or worse yet, from the heart of what is supposed to be the beacon of freedom around the world; thus vanquishing hope. America is not a place, but an idea. It means sedition to a tyrant, and thus represents a mortal threat from within by all.

from President Obama's Rwanda moment is this snippet:

Sudanese tyrant Omar Al Bashir has been accused by the International Criminal Court of three counts of genocide, five counts of crimes against humanity (murder, extermination, forcible transfer, torture and rape) and two counts of war crimes (intentionally directing attacks against a civilian population and pillaging).
After warring against the Christians of southern Sudan for decades, Khartoum began attacking the black Muslims of the Nuba Mountains, the Blue Nile and Darfur. The Islamic regime has long used fatwas, or religious decrees, to declare black African Muslims who oppose Khartoum's brutality as apostates who have renounced Islam. These fatwas give Sudanese Arabs a free hand to kill the indigenous population and seize their land with the help of the government.
The Arabs also freely take slaves. The riches of the slave trade first brought the Arabs to Sudan centuries ago. Arabs exported black Africans to the slave markets of Arabia until the British fought to stop the trade in the late 19th century. After the British left in 1955, Sudanese Arabs returned to their old ways with a vengeance. Today a slave costs as little as 10 dollars in Sudan.

Christiane Amanpour could have the very same panel address Sudan, so as to reveal the ideology of hate (or merely inhumanity) where it is self-evident. Call it: A Town Hall, Part Two. (And, invite Omar Al Bashir to be on the panel directly, rather than by proxy.)

From a posting put up a few weeks ago on Amanpour:

"Christine Amanpour -- she went to New Hall, a Catholic school in Chelmsford, one whose graduates are known as Old Fish, and has had every educational and other advantage the advanced West can offer. She's done just fine as a thrusting careerist, and I am sure her mariage blanc to James Rubin is proceeding according to career-plan. She has for years been an apologist for, and misinformer about, Islam, and I don't think she should be allowed to now settle the West with the task of saving Islam from itself."

Ammanpour, the queen of crock & schlock journalism. What is she hoping to achieve by playing 'Tokyo Rose?'

What kind of a cause is she serving when she deliberately deceives and misleads?

Here, this just about sums it up:

http://sheikyermami.com/wp-content/uploads/journalism43865200607281141322.jpg

From the article:

“The response to Islamic supremacism should not be fear, but resolution, determination, courage, and perseverance.”

Oh yes and we will win come hell or high water or whatever. Those in the know need only pull up their socks and get busy to make this happen.

~~~~~

Man alive did THEY ever stage and stack things against US.

As any ex-Muslim or other Islam informed individual worth their weight in salt knows -- there is a certain line of differentiation that gets reached when dealing with this most salient of matters…

And Reza Aslan has clearly crossed WAY beyond that line as has Christiane Amanpour…

There is not a snowballs chance in hell that these 2 fools are unaware of how truly evil Islamic theology is on the whole.

But then again, Christiane Amanpour may for her part be an overly ambitious dupe being played like a deck of cards. But I doubt it...

I am an ex-Muslim with a website:
http://www.considerationsofacanadianex-muslim.org

When I look at this picture all I can think of is Dork Jihad. Shall we succumb to the likes of Reza Aslan and his badn of merry Caliphators?

I think not.

As to Pamela's website being a mish mash of inane views, they certainly resonate with a huge number of the American population, unlike Reza's. I was at the first ACT! for America meeting for the new chapter that just started up in Leesburg, VA last night and they had to move the venue to a hotel because 130 people RSVP'd. I think when we started the DC/NOVA chapter two years ago something like five people showed up to the first meeting.

But you keep talking, Reza, babe. You're doing more good (for our cause) than you'll ever know.

Speaking of US and THEM, here is a classic bone marrow tune for all of our Great British friends out there this evenin’…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlY-JlE5ZCo

nacazo: "Power is intoxicating for a lot of people. "

And, Free Enterprise Capitalism (in theory) is supposed to harness and redirect this inherent human impulse toward the making of goods and the delivery of services to consumers, consistent with preservation of universally recognized individual rights. (Make a better iPod not make a more effective tyrant.)

I like what you're doing, Saleem. Great stuff on your website!

Wait! SIOA is a Neo-Nazi org? Pamela Geller is a Neo-Nazi? Well this nabi thought she seemed pretty pro Israel most of the time. But I, nabific and wise, don't know about this one. Like only ZK probably knows and mostly knowing is the ZK. Neo-Nazi Zionists! Who woulda thunk it?

nabi ZK (pbum)

Ah, no bigotry or ignorance in Islam, now is there? Why don't you answer Marisol's queries? For instance, do you think a Muslim who converts to Christianity should be killed? Be specific and not evasive---if you can. I say you can't. Go ahead, prove me wrong.

P.S. In the interest of full disclosure, I should state that I have never studied any ideology which is more close-minded or repressive than Islam. I have studied a few which are as repressive, but none more. Your decision to support Islam is a very poor one, since it is such a destroyer of freedom. Go ahead, prove me wrong. I say you can't. In fact, I think you're a wuss with a whole host of bad ideas. Go ahead. Prove me wrong.

Reza "Greeza" Aslan ...

PLEASE shampoo that hair!

Reminds me of Zappa's 'Disco boy'- some dandruff may be hiding there.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CE-EvldJH4

ETA says:

"Well, if you haven't noticed, the article starts with an obvious lie.

[Reza Aslan: "My hairdresser says this hairstyle makes me look like less of an anti-infidel freedomphobic bigot"]"


Yep. I suspect Robert Spencer is lying here. Mr. Spencer, please provide evidence that Aslan's hairdresser said so about the incipient-baldness covering hairdo of Mr. Aslan preferrably in an mp3.

My reaction to quote another poster:

Oh nooo! How evil!

Now, regarding jihad can you point to a lie by Mr. Spencer?

Detailed explanation of false claims in Aslan's latest book here:

http://revuse.wetpaint.com/page/Book+Review:+How+to+Win+a+Cosmic+War

Hello Jihad Watch.
Check this story.

Pakistan:
Death sentence handed down to a blasphemy convict

http://tribune.com.pk/story/56578/lhc-upholds-death-for-blasphemy-accused/

...lol, thanks for the chuckle :)

"You're a racist when it comes to Turks (for your followers who would say "Islam isn't a race")." --- EvilTaqqiyaArtist

Hi Evil! Racist, eh? What color of skin did Mohammed have? Check this out.

Bukhari vol 1 no 63

While we were sitting with the prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made the camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said, “Who among you is Mohammed?” At that time the prophet was sitting among us, leaning on his arm. We replied, “The white man reclining on his arm.”

Bukhari vol iv, no 744
Narrated Ismasil bin Abi Khalid: I heard Abu Juhaifa saying, “I saw the prophet and Al-Hasan bin Ali resembled him. “ I said to Abu Juhaifa, Describe him (Allah's apostle) for me.” He said, “He was white and his beard was black with some white hair in it. …...”

So, the white skinned prophet of Islam. Well, it seems these accusations of racist have come to nothing. Your prophet was as white as an Anglo Saxon Protestant.

Clearly JW is anti-Islam, anti-jihad, pro-freedom of expression, pro-human rights. All of these elements are inclusive, not exclusive. They apply to all, no matter the color of their skin, creed or nationality.


Whenever I read or hear an Islam propagandist like Reza Aslan making accusations against various kinds of Islam critics, as though they had committed the worst atrocities, I think of the text which the Islam propagandist reveres, i.e., the Quran.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelty/long.html
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/women/long.html

The Quran advocates or condones slavery, sexual slavery, wife-beating, misogyny, polygyny, marriage to child brides, warfare against and subjugation of non-Muslims, imperialism, expansionism, supremacism, brutal punishments and torture, hatred against non-Muslims, and primitive superstitions. The Quran describes multiple genocides against non-believers as good, as examples of Allah's justice. Reza Aslan not only approves of the Quran but he reveres it. And yet he objects to mere criticism from people who oppose Islamic jihad and sharia.

Well Robert I feel pretty bad for you that you have (or choose) do deal with ingrates like Amanpour and Aslan. I certainly could not walk into an argument knowing beforehand that I was just being set up by dhimmis.

Here is my question: Is it worth it? Is it worth talking to a lying bitch like amanpour when anyone and I mean anyone with the slightest knowledge about the cult of islam that someone like her is just going to use your own words to smear you? Just because she gets her own TV show I do not think is enough of a reason to give her your time. It is fairly obvious that the majority of Americans have given up on the MSM anyways so is there really anything to gain by acknowledging this bitches existence?

Perhaps we in the counterjihad should be sticking to FOX news, AM radio, and the internet to get our message across. MSM outlets like MSNBC & CNN are well known as open shills for leftist and islamist causes. I highly doubt some leftist dweeb is going to be watching MSNBC one evening and hear a couple cut up comments from Mr. Spencer and have an epifiny all of a sudden.

I have come to the point where I REFUSE to pay any attention to the MSM (except for FOX & I have my issues with them too) and the MSM lost their right to be in my life. I hope that other readers on JW & AS have also made this same decision.

Off Topic
To be clear I do not like nor do I respect Islam. Unlike what others say I also do not like nor respect muslims whether they are American or not. In 2010 muslims must prove that they are antijihad and antisharia BEFORE I look at them as anything but the enemy. Muslims themselves have made it this way with their silent support of jihad. I have ZERO respect for anything that is in the koran which naturally means that I am not going to respect or want anything to do with anyone who believes that book brings them close to god or considers that book holy. ALL muslims have proven themselves to use deceit to push islam so there is no reason to give any of them the benefit of the doubt. Sure this is unfair but life is rather unfair. I care more about security and winning the war against islam then being unfair to some moron.

Good for you, Robert! That must be difficult to do and I admire you for doing it.

Although they may cut quite a bit, you're pretty good at getting facts across in a short amount of time, so you probably reached some people. Although it's true you would get a better reception (and better editing) on Fox, what we need most is to reach the people who haven't been reached yet. No point singing to the choir. That must be the reason you agreed to the ambush.

Although it was uncomfortable, this is what we should all be doing -- having the uncomfortable conversations more and talking to people who already agree with us less. We need to gain more people on our side. And soon.

When it's tough, find solace at:

http://talkaboutislamamongnonmuslims.blogspot.com/

It's a site just for those of us who know about Islam to talk to each other about the challenges of talking to people about Islam.

l wonder if we can bombard ABC website of how poorly this amapour whore hosted this show. perhaps we can tell them that we will not take it lightly how she stacked the show against those in the majority in NYC and rest of the country are against this 9=ll mosque!

"A special ABC “This Week” town hall meeting is taking place in New York City, where Christiane Amanpour will moderate a live debate “Holy War: Should Americans Fear Islam?” ABC is not revealing the exact location of the town hall due to security reasons."

What was ABC fearful of?

@sheik, that Normandy landings cartoon is Amanpour-to-a-tee. My encounters with her were years before JWatch wised-me-up about the bigger picture, and some missing pieces are falling into place.

"Of course, Mr. Spencer traffics in fear".

Mr. Spencer "traffics" in peaceful dialoque, in arguing with facts, good sources, good logic. Winning over people with that, instead of with violence. Or with death-threats for opposing or leaving Islam. Or with parental and community black-mail of ostracizing for leaving Islam. Which are all methods of Muslims to keep people in line with their demands.

The big controversy between Muslims and Democracy-loyalists hopefully can be resolved in this decennium, after patient peaceful discussion. With many well informed and good people involved in it. With acceptance of insults or perceived insults, from both sides.

We know that most opponents of Robert like you would deem ANY Criticism, Exposure, Protest, Accountable-holding:

Fearmongering, hate-speech, dividing communities (as if communities are not always, healthy divided about many issues) etc.

You are almost always against everything said unfavorable to Islam. Nothing short of praise, support for or silence about Islam from all humans satisfies you. No dialoque is even possible with your attitude. Or so it seems.

Texts of opponents of Robert like you are almost always designed to, and always indicate that your desire is to:

Shut the dialoque down, because in essence you are censors. You are the ones who are FEARing debate, or too intellectually lazy or too busy to participate in it and for that to inform yourself appropriately.

Robert may be AGAINST Islam, but he is FOR Democracy and peaceful meaningful dialoque. His opponents may be FOR Islam, but they are AGAINST or disinterested in peaceful meaningful dialoque. At least in overwhelming majority it seems.


DISNEY - ABC - AMANPOUR - ISLAM.

Let's get down to it.

Disney is the main shareholder of ABC; and Disney has an ongoing problem with the demands of an Islamic employee, as rightly reported by Pamela Geller, and by 'Jihadwatch'.

'Atlas Shrugs':

"Sharia in America: Imposing Islam on Disney"

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/sharia-in-america-imposing-islam-on-disney.html

'Jihadwatch'(Sept 13):

"Disney worker demanding to wear hijab still refuses company's offers to compromise"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/br0nc0s/managed-mt/mt-search.cgi?search=disney&IncludeBlogs=1&limit=20

The Disney-ABC-Amanpour political line on Islam, and on critics of Islam, appears to be all part of a piece.

Islamophobic terrorists

Or maybe they worried that Imam Ossama Bahloul or Anjem Choudary would be targeted by Ayaan Hirsi Ali's supprters or maybe by Molly Norris... the very statement of "security reasons" sums it all up

. . .and Raza A-wipe, for that matter, exudes that same beach-headsecured persona that Ed Husain does. That 'here to stay' attitude, ?atta titude

Update: Disney (owner of ABC), re- hijab:

"Terror Case Unindicted Co-Conspirator CAIR Rolls Disney Over Hijab"

http://www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=disney9.27.10.htm

Scum like you are the problem. You are either one of those throwbacks yourself, or you are so blind to the truth about what is going on in the world that you can't get the veil away from your eyes for one second to grasp the reality of infiltration on our freedom is a threat. Are you a brainwashed throwback? Or do you just choose to believe that everything is alright here in the west? You will probably respond to this with typical rehtoric. You will let your anger burn in you while you think of some lie, something truthful you can distort. Come on, think hard now. I truly hope you wake up soon, and that you will open your eyes and ears to the evil shroud that covers islam. (the word does not deserve a capital "i"). It's still legal to not being politically correct you know. Come out of your shell and don't fear the idiots on the left. I know you can do it. Liberalism is a mental disorder, and the cure is common sense.

You know that it's hypocrital to call me a spammer when you yourself have posted the same comment twice?

I know this is a day late and a dollar short and a waste of space to reply, but my double post was accidental while your postings are deliberate...

But I can see where you are too dense to figure it out all by yourself...

Is moving from CNN to ABC a step up or down for Amanpour?

Taping a show about how peaceful Islam is from a secure location???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????.

Christiane Amanpour...'A mind is a terrible thing to waste'...
A billion is even worse...

Great observation flowerknife. . .could well have been a deliberate dropped-gear to sequester a mouthpiece into Wonderland. . .hell, from what I've seen, Gaza'n khartombs ain't child-friendly.

Us. They're afraid we might turn up with signs and flags. However, since we did that by the thousands back in June and September, and when they bothered to show up at all their either ignored us or covered the mosque-supporters, I suppose this time they didn't want to risk any interference at all.

Technically we cannot call it censorship because it is not formally being imposed by government edict. But we can call it what it is: collaboration bordering on treason.

Bombard ABC with protests if it makes you feel better, but don't be fooled into thinking it will have any effect. Learn the facts as thoroughly as you can stand to waste time on such tripe as islam, and be ready for the time when people will finally listen.

wonder why is it necessary that ABC needs a secure location, one could ask ABC if islam is so peaceful why do those who are critical or just draw a picture of old mo have to go into hiding. to some this might be nothing, but it keeps the pressure to the amanpours of the world that we are not stupid and understand the threat to our way of life when islamists get cover by them!

What's wrong with Islam is Shari'ah and the way it's imposed. If removed, what remains is as acceptable as any other religion except that in time, it will disappear forever.

It is violent Jihad and Shari'ah that sustains Islam, not it's religious tenants.

It is violent Jihad and Shari'ah that sustains Islam, not it's religious tenants.

Those 'are' it's violent religious tenents...Islam and sharia are one, they are permanently interdependent...Sharia can be deferred, but not separated...The purpose of jihad is to spread Islam, a prime directive from Allah, in whatever way possible, including violence...Islam would be acceptable without jihad or sharia, but that is not going to happen anytime soon...

DisabledOEFOIFVet says:

"Here is my question: Is it worth it? ...


...I highly doubt some leftist dweeb is going to be watching MSNBC one evening and hear a couple cut up comments from Mr. Spencer and have an epifiny all of a sudden."

Yes, it is worth it. At some point the cognitive dissonance will explode in their brains. Hopefully is not a nuclear explosion in their backyard (that would be too late for them).

For a historical precedent: Churchill was warning of the dangers of Hitler and nazis in Germany for years and was considered as some kind of naziphobe (islamophobe?).

At some point (when Hitler took Czechoslovakia) even the liberal elites realized Hitler was up to no good. Next time when Hitler took Poland they finally had their epiphany.

I am exhausted just trying to read through the post. I cannot even imagine how challenging it must be for you to have to continually deal with these subversive attacks on our country and the lies they tell on every front. Thank you, Pam, Raymond Ibraham and others risking your lives for truth.

You know, Cro-Magnon man existed side by side with Neanderthal man. Then one died out while the other triumphed? Why?

Today Islam lives side by side with Western civilization. One will die out. You know why, Taqiyya Artist? Truth is always more powerful than lies.

Islam is dying... the truth is killing it, slowly... but it will die.

I echo the poster here who decries Pamela and Robert going to "news" shows which are agitprops for the liberal Islamophilics. They are made to fit the stereotyped image of them as fringe right-wing lunatics. Sometimes that done by rude accusations (as in Pelley to Pamela: 'why don't you tell the truth ?'), sometimes by cutting in some awkward moment or out-of-context remark. Another technique of course is selecting the interacting audience, which sets the tone and provides - in the mind of a naive viewer - an illusion of a representative sample of the American public at large.

There is little one can do about such tactics, but one thing is for sure. By participating in the shows one consents to be marginalized. If Pamela and Robert think these shows are an opportunity to connect and get a wider exposure they are not thinking straight. People who watch these shows do not want to be educated about Islam. They tune in to have their own views played back to them by the idiot box and 'the enemies' exposed and trounced. Conservatives do not watch liberal shows. The news ratings of the major networks fall rapidly because more and more people are turned off by the talking heads.

On the other hand, if Pamela and Robert refuse to take part in the tar-and-feather jobs set up for them by 60mins, 20/20, and the like, they make it difficult for the producers to pretend they are objective. This then can be spelled out when an opportunity arises for a live interview (or a taped one by a trusted host).

Be sure to check out my "Moderate Muslim" image, which features "Sleaza Aslan."

http://freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/421-moderate-muslim.html

I think it is time to stop going on the MSM propaganda shows. The worst they can say is "Robert Spencer declined our request". The internet is where things are really happening anyway. Is anyone watching ABC news anymore?

I think it was Drudge who had a report that Amanpour's debut on This Week was the lowest rated ever for that show.Meanwhile O'Reilly had a reporter track down the muslim 9/11 "truther" who is friends with Rauf and has preached at Rauf's mosque. O'Reilly's ratings continue to grow while the MSM is dying.I'm sure many know that Amanpour's father is muslim and that she was once dismissed as a "spokeswoman for Al Qaeda".This phony townhall along with the recent whitewash of the GZ mosque on 60 minutes are part of a coordinated effort to turn public opinion around about the GZ mosque. Which 70% of Americans remain opposed to.The problem is that people are wise to the corrupt MSM.

I also can see growing desperation by muslims and their dhimmi supporters as the usual name calling, intimidation and violence (by muslims) no longer appears to be working.People are speaking about the evils of islam.That could be the reason for the increased number of muslim trolls on this website. One example Wilders was speaking in Germany recently and only 80 dhimmis showed up to protest.There was a time muslims by the thousands would have taken to the streets complete with threatening signs and warnings about what might happen if infidels continue to criticize islam. Yet now those intimidation tactics would only reinforce islam's negative image in the West. Interesting times indeed.

The lying MSM and it's disciples of prevarication, have shown themselves to not just be defending Islam, but advocating it...These are the worst and most dishonest propagandists in American history...Mostly because there are so many, and they are all over the place...One way to combat this is non participation...Don't spend any money on them or any advertisers or underwriters they may have...

No amount of reasoned argument will influence the far left
defenders of the prophet ( lower case intended ). Forget
Amanpour and Reza ! Concentrate on your family, extended family and friends. Influence them to read the koran,hadith, and sira. Present them with colorcoded
korans. Let them see in print the antisemitism, denigration of women, hate projected toward every infidel.
Tell them about abrocation, taquia, mufa khathat, and
every other odious practice instituted by by the author
of what can only be considered a SCREED. Convince them
and tell them to convince 5 other people. Tell them to google Citizen Warrior etc. Make it clear until they
see America is not up for grabs. When someone rattles on about the Book of Peace. Cite our Book of Peace, the Constitution. No sharia Law. Let Amanpour live with .
that may she feel the full force of its destruction
upon her liberty, not ours.

But they have to get the message/issue out, there is not another option, there being no fair and equal news media outlets, unless its the internet like this and her own. To have people know its an issue, when they know they will be smeared, is more important, I think, than avoiding it becuause of the smears and hateful vitriol. A lot of people who have no brains will go with the bully, but I hope many do see through it. That's all we can hope for, and that people who hear the issue exists perhaps will educate themselves on it. If they never hear of it like our bought-off media and leadership wish, then we are all doomed.

Evil Taqiyya Artist: Your gloating really exposes your ugly self. Sorry, it's pathetic and embarrassing.

Nerves of steel, cool head, and VERY strong stomach required to do what you do surrounded by "people of lies" (M. Scott Peck), Robert. Keep breathing. Courage!

Why Muhammad do you Hound mee/ you were not divine,
your OWN words inscribed,chiseled,recorded,kquraned,now a holy record,canoned.Islam,you pronounce peace with your mouth but your teeth bite into war.
Islam U UsUrp U UsUrped
Your prophet/ out of Great love, with a great love 4 his people went to the mountain. The question of this generation is what reallllllly happened on mt.Hira?
The same question should be asked regarding christianity, was Jesus reallllllly transFormed on his mountain?
the answer, you will know them by their fruits.
There are beautiful muslims, there are beautiful christians
there are beautiful jews.
How will the religions of earth ever coexist? They are!
Where? S/E/P/A/R/A/T/E/D Where? America.

ps. Mr Aslan iv'e read you,you sir have,....The great love

ROXANE

Take a look at The Muslims Brotherhood´s " The Project."

The behaviour of the muslims are tactical, planned by T.M.B.
some years ago.

And now the strategy has reached the muslims everywhere.

It is not only people like Tariq Ramadan who use the strategy but all muslims.

ROXANE

Take a look at The Muslims Brotherhood´s " The Project."

The behaviour of the muslims are tactical, planned by T.M.B.
some years ago.

And now the strategy has reached the muslims everywhere.

It is not only people like Tariq Ramadan who use the strategy but all muslims.

Now that turncoat/libelblogger Charles Johnson is rapidly fading from prominence, Reza Aslan has taken it upon himself to spread the same sort of hogwash that CJ spewed back in 2007.

It won't work. We're all wise to it.

Oh, and by the way, I have put links to SIOE, SIOA, and various national organizations affiliated with SIOE in the sidebar blogroll on 1389 Blog. I even made a separate section for them. I suggest everybody who is sick and tired of all of this "Nazi" smearing go ahead and do the same.

Its long past time to see whether EvilTaqiyyaArtist will still gloat when he's led onto the next flight back to Pakistan where he belongs, permanently.

Dear Mr. Spencer,

I am grateful to you that you attempted to speak the truth on the ABC ‘news’ special on islam/holy wars. I regret, deeply, that America is controlled by media. I wonder who currently owns ABC. The mediator was not much of a mediator. What a rude woman she is. I can not believe ABC news had such a biased and one sided 'news' show on. This would have been more fitting in a fiction sit-com. I saw that although she did not one time end/cut off/stop those speaking out FOR islam, she tended to end/cut off/stop you, Franklin Graham, and Gary Bauer, repeatedly. This would lead one to believe that her employers have instructed her not to allow an unrestricted or fair discussion. When that occurs it is only because someone who is in charge does not want the truth well known. I also can not understand why an ex-FBI agent now in the employ of ABC, as security consultant or whatever, was repeatedly asked to answer questions. He is not an FBI agent at this time, hence he would not have access to information that the FBI would have. You should know Mr. Spencer that anyone who has more than air between the ears will have observed the bias in this ‘town hall meeting’, which will then cause them to seek more information. The fact that people have difficulty in believing the truth about islam is because we can’t believe this could happen in America. We also did not think that The Twin Towers would be attacked in Sept. of 2001. Nor did we think Japan would attack Pearl Harbor. So we can not quite comprehend that there are American citizens here today who are muslim/practicing islam, waiting on their numbers to increase inside America, so that the jihad against America will begin. It is unfortunate that many will not believe it until they are on the receiving end of a sword. But you, Mr. Spencer should be commended for your valiant effort to get the truth out. (By the way I noticed the look in the eyes of daisy khan when the gentleman who lost his son pointed out to her that most likely she was lying about islam, it did take her a second to recover.) Until then keep up the good fight. And know that you are right in going to these farces of 'town hall' meetings/etc. if for no other reason than because it will cause others to seek to get educated about islam. Anyone who has not observed the simple fact of where islam is there is murder/mayhem/terrorism is simply not observing anything. And an old saying of ‘where there is smoke there is fire’ will come to mind. If I had the means to get the truth about islam out I would. I am so grateful for jihadwatch.org. I am glad that I watched 'Islam: What the West Needs to Know' - or else I would have never heard of jihadwatch.org. And I might believe some of the lies the biased media are spewing. It must simply be that islam has a lot to hide for them to work so hard to suppress the truth and spread this lie. This is the only religion that has to defend its beliefs and practices worldwide. There is a reason for that. And it is not because they are victims or misunderstood. It may be that the victims are beginning to really understand islam. Jesus will return soon and all will be set right. Well God Bless and keep you Mr. Spencer.
Warmest Regards, Louise

Exactly Louise!!

Even though the show was pretty much one sided, it did give Robert and the others a chance to say enough to make people wonder what they are talking about and research on their own.

I too noticed Daisy Kahn's reaction when Robert spoke to her, evil in her eyes!!!! She was one pissed off muslim!

That woman defending muslins and Islam, after she lost her daughter and grandbaby??? OMG!! Who defends the murderers of their loved ones? Morons that's who!

I think she made me the angriest. What does she have to gain? Nothing.

I saw the show.

I note Mr. Aslan said you and your kind of thinking will go into the "dust bin of history."

Evidently he does not understand the irony of the phrase. He is quoting V.I. Lenin's famous prediction--the eventual truth was completely the opposite.

The New York Post did a story about the show, or I should say they did a story on the death threat Dasiy Kahn alleges she recieved, Not one word of the Anti-mosque panel was quoted and still, the comments under the story are very anit-mosque, almost to the last comment, she is told to get over herself and move the mosque.

The timing of the travel alert isn't working in favor of the pro-Islam propagandist.Many Americans are taking notice of the fact that we are being threatened on a daily basis while being told we have nothing to be concerned about.

lol @ Robert I hope you have learned your lesson.


She is a muslim, just stupid beyond imagination or on a very heavy payroll from probably SA.

You, Pamela and Gabriel need to take your gloves off and stop being so nice and diplomatic.

Americans are sick and tired of political correctness song and dance. Unleash hell!

BTW don't try to do cnn again. amanpour chick will shut you up every single time.

she is a very famous girl in the news manufacturing business

you should know this by now

I think you have a crush on Aslan. Why don't you just tell him how you feel. And don't wait until until Christiane invites you again.

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