Sharif El-Gamal contradicts Daisy Khan on Ground Zero mega-mosque

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In one of an apparently endless series of fawning, softball interviews from the mainstream media (just once I'd like to see Sharif El-Gamal get interviewed the way Pamela Geller does or I do on a routine basis), thug Ground Zero mosque developer Sharif El-Gamal actually has the gall to complain about the media treatment he has gotten from some quarters, and claims that the Ground Zero mosque is neither a mosque nor at Ground Zero.

There's just one problem with that very common claim: it contradicts explicit statements made by Daisy Khan, a leader of the Ground Zero mosque initiative and wife of the Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. I was present at a lower Manhattan Community Board meeting where Daisy Khan said, "There are 200 mosques in New York. What's the problem with another?"

Now Daisy Khan herself also denies that it's a mosque, which shows you what kind of honest brokers we're dealing with here.

El-Gamal also contradicts Rauf himself. In a New York Times article (now scrubbed of these statements about the mosque, interestingly enough) Rauf seems to think that the mosque's location near Ground Zero is very important:

"New York is the capital of the world, and this location close to 9/11 is iconic," said the 61-year-old cleric, who is known for being a longtime critic of radical Islam. Being in a building "where a piece of the wreckage fell," he added, "sends the opposite statement to what happened on 9/11 ... We want to push back against the extremists."

"The Closing: Sharif El-Gamal," by Candace Taylor in The Real Deal, October 1 (thanks to Joan):

What has been the most upsetting thing for you about the response to the project?

There has been a deception by the forces of evil -- I'll just call it that -- saying that this is the "ground zero mosque." One, it's not a mosque. Two, it's not at ground zero. There was a narrative that was built in to provoke and sensationalize a topic that should have not gotten the attention that it got.

Which publications have been the most fair to you?

The New York Times has been pretty good to us. MSNBC, Keith Olbermann, Anderson Cooper, CNN has been pretty fair. Fox has just the most bizarre agenda in the world. The New York Post and the Daily News are just tabloids who will write anything to get a paper sold.

Would you like to set the record straight on anything?

This is going to be a community center. It's going to serve the needs of Lower Manhattan. Today, Lower Manhattan has mushroomed into a residential neighborhood -- there are over 50,000 residents. I saw this as an opportunity to build a center to serve the Muslim community that needs a prayer space, but also at the same time to build a world-class community center like the Jewish Community Center or the 92nd Street Y, with robust programming and phenomenal athletic and recreational facilities. ... There's such an ignorance and misperception of what Islam means. And I hope that this project will start educating people about my faith system and my beliefs.

I think it already has.

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Merkel: Multiculturalism in Germany has 'utterly failed'

Berlin - Chancellor Angela Merkel on Saturday moved to sharpen an ongoing debate in Germany over Islam and migration, by saying that "multiculturalism has absolutely failed" and that all immigrants must learn fluent German.

Merkel's comments came a day after under-fire conservative leader Horst Seehofer proclaimed that "multiculturalism is dead" at a youth rally.

Merkel's conservative Christian Democrats have made integration - foreigners adapting to the German way of life - a key policy plank, in opposition to multiculturalism, which prescribes no dominant culture.

Merkel said that Germany had to not only help immigrants, but also challenge them. This had not happened enough in the past, she said.

"Without being able to speak German, integration in Germany cannot work," Merkel told a conference of young Christian Democrats (CDU) in Potsdam.

Seehofer, leader of the Bavarian sister-party on which Merkel's CDU relies to keep power, has come under fire for saying that Germany should not accept any more immigrants from "alien cultures" such as Turkey and Arab states.

Islam has been singled out by some conservatives as being behind Germany's sometimes problematic relationship with its 4 million Muslims, most of whom are from Turkish backgrounds.

In an interview with the Sueddeutsche Zeitung daily on Saturday, Turkish President Abdullah Gul said that Turks in Germany should learn German "fluently, and without having an accent."

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/news/348951,multiculturalism-germany-absolutely-failed.html

The two-headed snake and the mongoose:

One head of the snake has fangs, the other does not.

The mongoose is hungry.

The mongoose and the fangless snake head both offer to dispatch the evil fanged snake head, for the price of some food.

Which one do you feed?

I can't believe how cloyingly "sweet" the questions are, can you??

-What has been the most upsetting thing for you about the response to the project?

-Which publications have been the most fair to you?

-Would you like to set the record straight on anything?

THEY LEFT OUT A COUPLE:

-Would Booboo like a backrub?

and

-How high exactly, your majesty?


Think I'm going to be sick.

Merkel: Multiculturalism in Germany has 'utterly failed'
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Oh jeesh, she must've caught wind of my comment on another thread where I opined that it's a shame that Germany is on this Islamic path, and that as a result we'll just have to end up destroying the country again...

LOL!

Seriously though, I don't know what's up with this woman, she's been back and forth more times than a tennis ball at the 2010 Wimbeldon Championship...


Just one question for you, Sharif:

Which would you recommend, the Siamese Shrimp Sautee' or the Raratonga Red Snapper?

On the positive side, the more muslims such as sheriff el-gamal stubbornly dig their heels and remain unwilling to compromise about distancing their GZM away from anything destroyed on 911, the more "ignorant" Americans learn first hand about his "faith".

Confoundedly they have chosen to do what they know will inflict pain and extend the suffering of the families of the 911 victims. This almost blind disregard for people outside of their faith is not a rarety but actually it is emblematic of the ilamic ethos demonstrated across the globe.
So here again Americans indeed are beginning to learn about Mr. sheriff el-canards faith.

islam is supremacist
islam is intolerant
islam deceives
islam evokes conflict
islam is evil

"Daisy Khan said, "There are 200 mosques in New York. What's the problem with another?"

IMO there's a huge problem with the 200. They shouldn't be there, that's too many. This is not a Muslim country.

"Seehofer, leader of the Bavarian sister-party on which Merkel's CDU relies to keep power, has come under fire for saying that Germany should not accept any more immigrants from "alien cultures" such as Turkey and Arab states."

Uh yeah, that's a no-brainer.

There's such an ignorance and misperception of what Islam means. And I hope that this project will start educating people about my faith system and my beliefs.

You can start with Olberman and Cooper...They misunderstand the 'finer points' of what Islam really means...

And why would anyone want to get educated in your beliefs?...You believe that beating people up is good exercise and stress relief...It actually does those things, but it is a thugs method...

Sharif El-Gamal actually has the gall to complain about the media treatment he has gotten...

His whining is no surprise in this quarter. Ever since Mohammed took affront to being severely criticized by the local Arabs for his crazed threatening rants on the burning sands of Main Street Mecca, whereupon he was thrown out town and told not to come back, profoundly unjustified whining and juvenile finger pointing has been one of the central behavioral foundations of Moslem behavior.

What Gamal needs is a good bitch slapping. That'd straighten him out. For 15 minutes or so, at least.

What Gamal may need is a cut price package tour of paradise. And the entire 'free world' needs a company which installs grassy knolls for the purpose of landscaping history.

"Fox and their bizarre agenda"- For knowing what a Chicken dinner looks like?

The muslims of Manhattan want another mosque? Let's do them proud. How about a nice big one with a river view, and its well away from Ground Zero. There's a complex of buildings on a site at Turtle Bay overlooking the East River. Spacious grounds, about 17 acres all told. It's been occupied since 1952 so it's a bit run down but nothing a lick of paint won't fix. I think you know where I mean. The current tenants really are a waste of space, always looking for handouts and for ever ungrateful, and their eviction will be no loss to the USA. I think you've guessed which bunch of deadbeats I'm talking about.

The Ground Zero Mosque is not a "mosque" because it also includes a restaurant, swimming pool, and lecture auditorium.

In related news: LAX is no longer an "airport" because it also includes restaurants, meeting rooms, gift shops, and lounges.

Caesar's Palace Las Vegas is no longer a "hotel" because it also includes a casinos, restaurants, meeting rooms, and offices.

The Rocky Mountains are no longer "mountains" because they also include valleys, lakes, meadows, parks, highways, and trees.

The Mississippi River will also be renamed because it's not located exclusively in the state of Mississippi.

The extent to which Rauf supports Islamic law, and exactly which Islamic laws he supports or rejects, should be publicized more.

Surely that's Rauf's key vulnerability.

Islam is like a sewer, full of shit.

reminds me of the time i heard 'it was like riding down an open sewer in a glass bottom boat'
see it can be a happy story about a boat!

Next in importance to getting into Paradise, for a pious Mahoundians, is spreading Islam Quran 8:39 and others...That out of necessity means spreading Sharia...and if they can't establish it by peaceful means, force will do...Islam and sharia are one...inseparable...That is Rauf, Daisy and Gammals bottom line, and the one they do their best to cover up...None of them have the needs of the kufr community on their minds, it is their own personal needs, that happen to fit with Allah's cause, that are on their minds...Allah needs Rauf to spread sharia, or at least that's what Rauf seems to think...Their problem is that they are not very good with this deceit because they talk too much, they say too much, and they become translucent...we can see right through them...

I totally agree with you and find it amazing that we put up with any of it. We are wasting are time in Afghanistan and Pakistan when we can bring the war to Islams doorstep, Saudi Arabia. It's no surprise that Saudi Arabia is our enemy worldwide, Islam is actually an Arab concoction after all. It's also no surprise that since the oil boom of 1970 countries all over the world are filling up with burqas, another Arab concoction.

Everything Islam will always lead you back to Saudi Arabia, Islam, Muhammad, burqas, oppression, terrorism, bin laden, the majority of the hi- jackers, terrorist funding, the 9/11 Mosque, hatred for Jews, over politically correctness to appease the masters of oil, you get the point.

If you were to fight Nazism you go to Berlin, Islamism you go to Saudi Arabia where it all began. Without Saudi funding Afghanistan would waste away and so many other Salifi regimes. The 60 billion dollar weapons deal with Saudi Arabia sounds like a nightmare that later on down the road we will have to deal with anyways with the loss of lives of our troops.

A Muslim blogger in Amsterdam recently wrote about Reza Aslan's lectures there. She was enamoured, of course, particularly by his statement that "it's not a mosque and it's not at Ground Zero." This is obviously the catchy phrase proponents are passing around.

"it's not a mosque and it's not at Ground Zero." This is obviously the catchy phrase proponents are passing around.

Yes, they pass that around at the hairdressers...When Aslan is sitting under the dryer he repeats that a lot, sort of like a mantra...I don't think anyone ever measured ground zero...If It was up to me, I would declare an eight block square area around the Twin Tower site, as a National Historic Monument...That way, no building may be erected that was not already there, and no buildings would be demolished...

Has anyone noticed but haven't the main players in this charade been exhibiting a bit of confusion lately? It seems there are slight cracks appearing lately and they seem to be arguing behind the scenes over details concerning the building of this monstrosity.

On another note, why doesn't the media report on the background of our main players, Rauf and El Gamal? If only their supporters would take a closer look, they would see that both these men have run-ins with the law and are dubious characters at best. If they were of Italian descent, they would be accused of having Mafia ties (sorry to all the wonderful Italian-Americans out there, but you know what I mean). No way would they be coddled and allowed to go through with this.

If anything, I think the media has been way too gentle with El Gamal, in particular. How about publishing his rap sheet? How about an interview with that tenant whose face and nose he smashed up? Oh, I forgot, if that guy came forward he probably would be risking further injury, or worse.

Looks like a bunch of thugs, IMO.

If it's not a mosque, then it's not protected by the first amendment and therefore can be denied a building permit.

In a New York Times article (now scrubbed of these statements about the mosque, interestingly enough)...

Huh! Isn't one of their slogans "NYT -- the newspaper of record"??

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