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coop, chicken coop.

My spelling is horrible and my MS Word will tell me if "palestinians" is not capitalized but cannot differentiate if the chickens are having a revolution or just hanging out.

Funny, the downright vile neo-nazis at stormfront.org say exactly the same thing when it comes to Jews in position of power. Clearly, they argue, Jews are not to be trusted as they are infiltrating our government and business with a goal of the destruction of the white race etc etc. To further support their argument they'll bring up "kol nidre" (in the same way you people misconstrue the Shi'ite concept of taqiyya), international banking, Israeli terrorists and crazy Nazi hocus pocus.

I'm so sure that terrorists are going to be hindered by being forced out of ticket checker jobs for airlines. It's not as if religious affectations can't be forgone, don't you people believe we're allowed to conceal things from you if it serves the greater purpose of our global jihad conspiracy? Surely we're all in on this along with the illuminati, freemasons and reptile aliens.

" I'm so sure that terrorists are going to be hindered by being forced out of ticket check jobs for airlines. "

Why take the chance of allowing this Muslimah to be involved in airport security, at all ?

Must we possibly hand someone the knife that could be used to slit our own throat ?

Are you going next to tell everyone that Muslims pose no threat, even as a " ticket checker " ?

You make a joke out of this very real security threat. And given the nature of Islam, Robert Spencer makes a very valid point in his commentary, on this article.

If a member of the Ummah did help terrorists board a plane, and hundreds of people were killed as a result, what would you say then ? Ooopps, I was wrong ?

Probably not.

Gerbiltea - You suggest something's "funny" but then you forgot to say what it was. You mention in passing "religious affectations". What is that? Never seen that before. Oh, you forgot to do a brief description of how hilarious it is that the "secular government" of Turkey doesn't allow non-Muslems in any government positions, nor in positions in Academia, nor in any high posts in society. Now that would have been really funny.

Your sarcasm doesn't wash. Here's why: False accusations against an innocent group (e.g., Jews) by a rogue collection of human beings (e.g., Neo-Nazis) cannot be compared (sarcastically or otherwise) to valid accusations against a culpable group (e.g., Muslims) by informed and average folks (e.g., at least 35% of the populations of such countries as America, Canada, Britain, France, The Netherlands, Germany and Italy). You know this or should know it. But, dim-witted as you are, and beholden to the spiritual totalitarianism which the deeply warped Mohammed founded, you have zero possibility of grasping this verity.

Something like 99% of religious terrorism throughout the world is perpetrated by followers of one religion and one religion only---Islam. I mean, after all, how many Presbyterian suicide bombers, how many Buddhists trying to blow up airliners, how many Methodists attempting to set off explosives in Times Square or how many Orthodox Jews intent upon killing or maiming as many people as possible at a Christmas celebration in Oregon are there after all?

Your argument is a loser. As are you. As is Islam.

Richard Warman, is that you?

GerbilTea—I'd wondered where our "favorite" conflicted Muslim had been off to. Nice—after a fashion—to have our Gerbil weighing in again with a bit of moral equivalence and general obfuscation.

GerbilTea wrote:

Surely we're all in on this along with the illuminati, freemasons and reptile aliens.
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I suppose it is necessary to remind GerbilTea that it wasn't the illuminati, the freemasons, any "reptile aliens" or even the Jooooos who were responsible for the Lockerbie bombing, and for 9/11, and the attempted athletic shoe bombing, and the attempted baby formula bombing, and the attempted underwear bombing. Oddly, those were *all* acts of his zany co-religionists.

Sadly, members of the "Religion of Peace" have a less-than-peaceful history of hijacking and blowing up airlines—just the job this pious Hijabbed Muslimah was hired to prevent.

Concern about this is common sense—not the ugly fantasies of neo-nazis.

More from Gerbil:

...in the same way you people misconstrue the Shi'ite concept of taqiyya...don't you people believe we're allowed to conceal things from you if it serves the greater purpose of our global jihad conspiracy?
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Last August, Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula tried to murder Saudi Arabia's Prince Muhammed bin Nayef by sending in a suicide bomber posing as a repentant member of the group to meet with him.

Following the attempt—the bomber is in paradise with his 72 Houris, the "prince" is still with us—Al-Qaeda published a lengthy defense of the ugly tactic with a most predictable title—"War is Deceit".

So—it is not the "Islamophobes" who are trumping up this phenomenon—it is pious Muslims themselves who are trumpeting such vicious tactics as praiseworthy and entirely Islamic.

Thanks for the link, Zulu.

GerbilTea :

How do you explain Zulus link ? Was this a " Zionist / Nazi / Illuminati / Alien conspiracy ?

Or was it a member of the Ummah, offering assistance by taking advantage of his position ?

Let me know....

Here's another story for GerbilTea to scoff at:

"British Airways worker offered himself as suicide bomber, advised jihadists of airlines' weaknesses"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/british-airways-worker-offered-himself-as-suicide-bomber-advised-jihadists-of-airlines-weaknesses.html

See? The idea that any Muslim airline employee might abet Jihad is *just crazy*. sarc/off

The muslims' (not only shiites') habit of concealing their intentions is born of eternal weakness. It's their need to conceal. If they didn't do that they would never get very far. Oh,yeah, the Muslim feels proud he's getting away with it, but it is really a badge of his own pathetic weakness, his endemic impotence. But non-Muslims only rarely feel a need to conceal what they're up to. And especially in Counter-Jihad there's no need for the kaffir to conceal and deceive the stupid Muslims, because even if the Muslims know exactly what the Kafirs are planning, there's nothing they can do to stop it once it gets going.

"Your sarcasm doesn't wash. Here's why: False accusations against an innocent group (e.g., Jews) by a rogue collection of human beings (e.g., Neo-Nazis) cannot be compared (sarcastically or otherwise) to valid accusations against a culpable group (e.g., Muslims)"

I see I see, so Muslims are without exception A.) terrorists B.) terrorist sympathizers C.) crypto-terrorist sympathizers. Even if we do present ourselves as being rational human beings it gets written off as "taqiyya". This is EXACTLY the same as the way neo-nazis characterize all Jews as being innately craven parasites. No matter how much good a Jew performs, he will still be considered a threat by these people purely for his ethnoreligious identity. It's beyond absurd.

No Jew can ever be innocent in the world view of the neo-nazi, he has been sworn as the eternal enemy by virtue of his existence. The only difference I can see here is that the neo-nazis wouldn't even accept the Jew if he turned his back on his faith and goose stepped his way to David Lane's prison cell. If a Muslim becomes an apostate, that's like leather bucket seats on a new car to you guys, you're totally enamored of that. Never mind that the previously mentioned religion also officially has a death penalty for people who leave the religion if they have a halakhic state...

I've said it before that there is a problem with Islam in the world today as Islam has lent itself very well to fanatics and has also been exceptionally stubborn in regard to modern secularism. This does not mean that we can round up all the "Muzzes" to satisfy paranoid conspiracy theories concerning Muslim violence. Seriously, religiously mandated violence by Muslims in the West pales in comparison to crimes supposedly related to minority groups, yet would you side with those people who encourage complete moratoriums on immigration?

Well, you MIGHT...

Ok graven, let's play this game only we'll do it bigger. Ben-Ami Kadish and Jonathan Pollard are two of the biggest spies ever to betray the United States by selling state secrets to a foreign power. I suppose we could throw in Julius and Ethel Rosenberg but there's certainly an argument that we executed some innocent people so we'll let those two "slide". Still, Jonathan Pollard, massive leak with the potential to have sold information during the height of the Cold War putting millions if not billions of people around the world at risk. If I were a nutball stormfront.org posting moron (I'm sure most of you still agree with the moron portion) then I would probably exclaim this. "Obviously, we can not allow Jews into positions of authority within our military or government because they have the POTENTIAL to side with a foreign power at the expense of the United States*

And it goes on and on, Jews get framed for the financial melt down, declining moral values on TV and probably even low inner city test scores. This same kind of thinking is being applied here to Muslims who are an *obvious* threat. Look, if the terrorists really believe that taqiyya stuff, wouldn't they simply NOT wear religiously mandated clothing or take on Muslim-y names?

"No sir, my name isn't Abdul, it's Hector Consuelo Chichi Rodriguez."

I noticed that you responded to Wellington, but you ignored the comments that I made, and the questions that I asked you.

Again, what do you make of Zulus linked article, and the latest article that Robert Spencer posted on JW ?

Are Zulu, Gravenimage, and Spencer, just stirring up Islamophobia ?

Or, do they actually make a valid point ?

I eagerly await your response !

Over 16,000 documented Islamic terrorist attacks just since 9/11. How many Jewish terrorist attacks during the smae time period?

You're such a rube. You didn't grasp my basic point (will you ever?) that haters like Neo-Nazis making accusations cannot be equated to regular folks (like the some 35% I mentioned in sundry Western nations who see Muslims, statistically speaking, as a greater threat to world stability than any other group) making accusations. Can you finally get this or are you so thick that this will never sink in?

No, not all Muslims are terrorists (though all Muslims are confused) but almost all terrorists are Muslims. Get it? No? Then I'll try yet again. On 9/11, not all Arabs were terrorists but all the terrorists were Arabs. If you don't know by now, from a purely logical point of view alone, that Muslims as a group must be suspected far, far more than Jews, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, agnostics, atheists, Jainists, Confucianists, Taoists and left-handed, lesbian, transgender Guatemalans then you are, quite simply, beyond redemption.

Finally, your pathetic mention of minority groups supposedly committing more crimes again misses the point. Here's why, not that this will do any good: there's a difference, a huge one, between criminal actions that cause individual tragedy and actions which are, in effect, a declaration of war against an entire society. Islamic doctrine is, in effect, a permanent declaration of war against the kuffaar and thus is a much greater menace than mere criminal activity by any group. God, you are so dumb---or malicious---or both. The least you can do is quit embarrassing yourself by continuing to post here at Jihad Watch. When you do, you reveal a great deal more about yourself than you realize. Fitting though. Oh so fitting.

rhetorical nonsense. IT woul;d not pass in my philosophy class.

Paul, absolutely there's a problem with Muslim terrorists in the West! I hate to break it to you though, but the ____ religious group as terrorist has shifted over time and has not perpetually been Muslims. It is a problem NOW, as we can all see, and we have to deal with it realistically now in order to counteract that. We are, in a way, on the same side.

What I will never do is accept that we can paint over a billion people as a potential enemy purely because they accept a monotheistic religion that is hardly different from Judaism. I say hardly different because honestly the scripture for both has equal inhumanity to choose from. I'll go more into detail about this for my next post to Wellington.

Equal inhumanity to choose from? Ah, how can you be so dense? The Old Testament is often merely descriptive while the Koran is always prescriptive. Moreover, any violence sanctioned in the OT was to sequester a small parcel of land---Palestine. The violence sanctioned in the Koran is an instruction to conquer all the earth. Big difference. Could hardly be any bigger. But, of course, your moral equivalency reasoning disallows recognition of this. Frankly, I'm becoming very bored by your limited intellect. Hell, at least you could be challenging but you can't manage even this.

16,000 documented by? Is this the famed tally kept by the blog religionofpeace? I'd like an exact list of what is being included here among these terrorist attacks, many of which may include attacks related to ethnic struggles. Also, who operates this blog? Is this going to be another MEMRI? I hardly accept factual claims from admittedly biased sources. As to the Jewish question concerning terrorism, how many occurred in the British Mandate of Palestine? A few of those groups sought to raise a halakhic state, on the basis of their ... RELIGION! Hey, yes! They really did bombings, massacres, assassinations and kidnappings to advance their aims! Was it a mix of nationalism, freedom fighting and terrorism? Sure! That conflict, just like today's, is way more nuanced than you or any of the JWers are actually willing to admit. The only light any of you can see this in is with Muslims being uniquely energized toward slaughter of non-Muslims through their religion.

"(like the some 35% I mentioned in sundry Western nations who see Muslims, statistically speaking, as a greater threat to world stability than any other group)"

And exactly how are we this great threat? We didn't advance the atom bomb or use one anywhere, start WW1or WW2 (though some mild participation in both) or oversee most of the great genocides of the 20th century. People in the West project this evil element onto the Muslims but frankly their societies are even bit as liable to embrace fanaticism as any other. You're acting like this depth of inhumanity is unique to Islam, why? What exactly makes Islam so darn special?

I was long ago bored by your inability to read Arabic or understand that the command to warfare presented in the Qur'an, particularly an-anfal, was prescribed for the Meccan polytheists in specific. This is perfectly the same as Moses commanding the murder of the apostates among his people, likewise his murder of the Midianites, likewise Samuel's slaughter (as God directly commands) of the Amalekites. How exactly is Muhammad's killing of Meccan polytheists ANY different from this?

Have Jews recently thought this meant that Jews should continue such activity to secure a homeland? YES! Meir Kahane's ilk have readily suggested that genocide was already ordained by their deity before, why not again? There's a reason why Kach is considered a terrorist organization by the U.S., E.U. and Israel itself. Further, have Jews suggested the implementation of halacha as the law of the land, even in the West? YES! One of the Jewish boosters for the EDL, Nachum Shifren, recently advocated the execution of apostates from Judaism and homosexuals. Why? Because his freakin' book commands it! Yeah, none of that has ever been "fixed" in the Torah. What, you think these people don't believe their book is also the immutable word of God? Also, happy to mention that Robert called EDL an organization that "all free people should support".

http://bloggingtheology.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/edl-speaker-says-it-is-gods-will-to-kill-apostates-and-homosexuals/

Nutballness exists in monotheism across the board.

Knew it wouldn't take you long to question just how many Islamic terrorist attacks have occurred since 9/11 (what?--only 14,000 instead of 16,000?) or to fault America for using the A-bomb to end the greatest war in man's history. As if Presbyterians or Buddhists pose approximately as large a threat to world stability as do Muslims. You're desperate and won't face the fact that Islam is a totalitarian ideology, the only major religion which is, and which was founded by a brutal, psychopathic, sexually perverted fraud.

Are there other wrongs and evils in the world? You bet. But there can be no doubt that Islam is evil. Wicked to the core. Best of all here is that the world is finally catching on to this and as your more "enthusiastic" Muslims keep fulfilling Islamic doctrine to make all the world Islamic by war or other devious means, Islam will become more and more detested, as it should.

As for any Jewish terrorism during the British Mandate period, yes, it existed. The Stern Gang is a good example of this. But there are huge differences between Jewish terrorism and Muslim terrorism, between the Jewish world and the Muslim world---the bulk of the Jews ended Jewish terrorism while the bulk of the Muslim world has done didly shit to end Muslim terrorism and there's nothing wrong with the Jewish world that the best of the Jewish world can't fix, but by contrast almost everything that is wrong with the Muslim world will never be fixed by the best of the Muslim world because there is no best of the Muslim world.

Pointing to other wrongdoing, you know, doesn't exculpate all the hideous wrongs perpetrated by Muslims over some 1400 years. Islam is responsible for the death of at least 200 million people in this time span. Quite a legacy. And, as I already mentioned, Islam has no good side to it which can rectify its wrongs or even acknowledge that it has committed any. Damning. For all time.

When you refer to the billion Muslims, you seem to argue that Islam is valid because of the numbers of people who follow it. That is argumentum ad populum; but perhaps that is not your argument.

You seem to be someone of goodwill underneath all your support for the despicable Islam. I am willing to believe that you are a Muslim of no ill intent. As should be clear to you, most of the readers on JW do not hate Muslims or believe that every Muslim is a terrorist. Forget the incidental concern of the Muslim woman behind the Delta counter and get to the real issue – Islam itself – any branch, any form. Can Islam exist without Muhammad? Why is Islam true?

GerbiTea, why not leave off the tepid, weak, herbal infusions of moral equivalence, and adolescent sarcasm, and steep your mind in a little logic. See if you can apply it to anything Islamic, and brew a cup of real tea. Write something strong. Tell the JW readers where they are so wrong so about Islam. Come back with the smoky lapsang souchong of your pungent faith. Present the JW readership with a fire-breathing, irrefutably logical essay - a toasted cup of the true, deep stuff.

DefenderofIslam and roland, I am sorry to have to say, do not have the brains to do it. Islamic Empire is too afraid to do it – mostly because, even though he has the sharp edge and wit, the seething resentments, and the enmity, he would not be able to argue for very long. He believes that he would be stomped on this board, and he is probably right. Whatever courage he has, it is the bully’s courage.

After the drubbing he took a few days ago, Dave742 is somewhere nursing his wounds, with a nurse swappie. He is probably in a bohemian swinger’s orgy room just now. His problem is that he does not really think that Islam is in any way valid; so he cannot help your cause. In his words, he says that, “all religions are silly;” and of course, that would have to include Islam. Mr. 742, a self-identified supporter of Hezbollah, is a leftist waiting for Usrael to collapse; so other than his waiting and watching, his posts are only an incidental, collateral, benefit to your jihad. I think he believes that the rulers of the Islamic Caliphate, with their sharia law, will spare him if they manage to come to power in the United States.

Mr. 742 is wrong, and I have no doubt that he would make his conversion to your faith very quickly and very loudly if Islam ever became dominant in this country. If he were caught wife swapping in an Islamic society, he would find himself under the lash, if not hanging from a crane parked in the public square.

Fairuzfan is too guarded to write about Islam in a forthright manner, because to do so would expose his charade; and that would mean that he could no longer heap guilt upon, confuse, or try to out-Catholic the Catholics who frequent this site. That leaves you. So, what have you in defense of the indefensible sir? Is there anything at all valid about Islam?

Bhobby, it's not disguised as a form of Jew hatred, it's the same animal but it's not some kind of reconstituted anti-Semitism or the "new new anti-semitism". I use the comparison because no two religions on earth are as closely related. Christianity is a distant cousin in comparison to Islam and Judaism, so it's useful to point out similarities in the attitudes of Christian majority nations to their Muslim counterparts.

If you can't see a trend though towards paranoid delusion concerning Muslims, then I dunno. Look man, it's the protocols of the learned elders of Saudi Arabia at this point. There have been more than a few people here who have sought more than just a ban on the Qur'an or a ban on Islam. Unfortunately, these people also infect others with their insane belief that Islam is some uniquely evil faith.

Oh, the old you can't read Arabic line. More desperation. As if a person has to be able to read German to know that Hitler and Nazism were evil.

By the way, when Jews start hijacking airplanes, blowing themselves up in restaurants, sawing off heads, demanding that Judaic law replace all constitutional and legal systems across the earth, demand death for anyone who leaves Judaism for another religion, threaten death for those who criticize Judaism or major Old Testament prophets, get back to me and I'll reconsider my assessment of Jews. Yeah, get back to me when these things occur.

Well this last post of your seems impossible to answer. I wonder if GerbilTea sees it. It isn't just the Qur'an which justifies Islamic evil, but the other texts as well. There's that little problem of Muhammad's behavior.

"Pointing to other wrongdoing, you know, doesn't exculpate all the hideous wrongs perpetrated by Muslims over some 1400 years. Islam is responsible for the death of at least 200 million people in this time span. Quite a legacy. And, as I already mentioned, Islam has no good side to it which can rectify its wrongs or even acknowledge that it has committed any. Damning. For all time."

Sure, I'm just pointing out that Muslims are only human and aren't unique in their capacity for violence. The core problem remains monotheism which is, by its very nature, intolerant. And where the hell do you get this 200 million figure?

I just sent you a link where a rabbi advocated a death penalty for apostasy and homosexuality. To add insult to injury, he's a speaker for the EDL! He's on your team!

Don't believe me? Watch the youtube video in the link.

If this is all true, which it is, how then can you claim that Islam is unique in this? Again, Moses THE LAWGIVER, killed apostates. What sort of example is that for his people?

classicus, my argument is that Muhammad's actions as a prophet aren't unique when compared to Biblical prophets, right down to the accusations of pedophilia. It can certainly be argued that Jesus and Muhammad may be worlds apart, but that doesn't excuse Judaism.

How is Muhammad's behavior concerning the taking of slaves, slaughter of neighboring people, murder of apostates or even sexual relations with children different from that of Moses? I can produce verses from the OT which support all of the above for Moses.

If Muhammad's actions are not unique, why is he compelling? Forget the Jewish faith. Why is Islam true?

We didn't advance the atom bomb or use one anywhere, start WW1or WW2 (though some mild participation in both) or oversee most of the great genocides of the 20th century.

You damn sure over saw the annihilation of the Armenians in Turkey from 1915 on. See the work of Vahakan N. Dadrian, in particular, "The History of the Armeneian Genocide" and "Warrant for Genocide" for details, also Andrew Bostom's "A Modern Jihad Genocide." Your failure to help the Nazis destroy the Jews of Palestine was only due to the former's defeat at El-Alamein and the latter's strength and resolve in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973.

I used the qualifier "most" with the Armenian Genocide in mind, actually. Sure, it happens, as I stated the Muslims are as fertile a ground for fanatical behavior as any other ideology. The point is that Islam isn't alone in this capacity and there's no reason to believe Christianity or Judaism have somehow magically been inoculated against this.

GerbilTea wrote, supposedly in response to Wellington's comments:

...This does not mean that we can round up all the "Muzzes" to satisfy paranoid conspiracy theories concerning Muslim violence...
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Firstly, *no one* here is calling for the round up of "all the "Muzzes" (sic) by voicing concern over the presence of particularly pious Muslims in airport security. This is grotesque.

Secondly, your co-religionists themselves seem more and more given to violent Jihad. Cases here in the US have skyrocketed—with shootings at a recruitment center, mass murder at an army base; and attempts to blow up Times Square, an airplane in the skies over Detroit last Christmas Day, and a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Oregon. All this in the name of Islam.

Another straw man argument:

Never mind that the previously mentioned religion also officially has a death penalty for people who leave the religion if they have a halakhic state...
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There are no "halakhic states"—nor are any Rabbis or other pious Jews calling for the murder of apostates from Judaism—nor are Jewish families murdering these people. If only the same could be said of Muslims—apostate Muslims all over the world are in danger of their lives, most recently in Afghanistan, where an apostate is on trial for his life.

All of this avalanche of Jihad violence seems indicative of a bit more than just a faith that is "exceptionally stubborn in regard to modern secularism".

"It can certainly be argued that Jesus and Muhammad may be worlds apart, but that doesn't excuse Judaism."

Jesus lived a sinless life, whereas muhammad and Moses did NOT, so you're absolutely right. Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." -- John 14:6

An unpopular truth with both muslims and Jews ...

GerbilTea wrote:

What exactly makes Islam so darn special?
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Well, Islam has been spectacularly violent and oppressive for almost *1400 year*. That's pretty "darn special".

But I doubt many of us here cared much one way or another about Islam until comparatively recently. I was becoming more and more generally alarmed about Islam, with its suicide bombings and hijackings—but like a lot of people, it was after 9/11 that I really took a long, hard look at Islam, and was chilled by what I found.

And things have only become more disturbing since then.

But apart from the fact that so many of your co-religionists are trying to murder us and impose Shari'ah law, I have no more issue with Islam than I do with any other totalitarian creed.

If this were 1938 or so, I like to think I would have been prescient enough to have noticed the disturbing events in middle Europe and East Asia and would have spoken up about them.

Islam has not been the first horrific threat to human freedom—although it has been a bloody persistent one. It will likely not be the last, either.

But right now, there is no greater threat, and all your obfuscations do nothing to change that.

If you would like to spend more of your time trying to persuade your fellow Muslims to adopt your own rather less lethal view of the faith, it might be more to the point.

"I used the qualifier "most" with the Armenian Genocide in mind, actually. Sure, it happens, as I stated the Muslims are as fertile a ground for fanatical behavior as any other ideology. The point is that Islam isn't alone in this capacity and there's no reason to believe Christianity or Judaism have somehow magically been inoculated against this."

The "inoculation" as you say isn't magical - it's ideological, theological and based on source texts. There are many reasons to believe that Christianity is very different than Islam. The Christian source texts say that Jews must be loved as brothers and are the chosen people of Yahweh. There is nowhere to be found in the New Testament a verse saying to categorically kill Jews as there is in the Qu'ran. Please attempt to explain the Qu'ran's clear instructions to kill Jews and elicit the equivalent text in the New Testament. After all, the Qu'ran is Allah's eternal uncreated word applicable for all time, is it not? (But of course, I forgot that Allah has a bad memory... he abrogated certain earlier verses for the more violent verses! Oh well, even Allah isn't perfect...).

The Muslim source texts say Jews and Christians, and everyone else are to be (take your pick) - enslaved, killed, taxed, humiliated, subdued, not befriended, etc. You already know this if you've read the Qu'ran.

I understand the Islamic viewpoint is that every Prophet in the Old and New Testament was "already Muslim" (centuries before the word "Muslim" existed) - because (of course) if you're a new "prophet" trying to co-opt previous religions the easiest thing to say is "Those previous prophets were already members of my new religion - and the religion the Biblical texts say they believed in is false! The Bible has been twisted and corrupted, but mine is the true religion! Now grab your swords and lets start killing for my TRUE religion!" And I'm not even getting into the lifestyle of "the prophet" which is (to be honest) sickening to anyone that still has a conscience... and the Muslims who know the true history of Muhammad and still follow him as a "prophet" no longer have a conscience.

Islam is a sad result of a tyrant trying to create a new religion based on Judaism and Christianity without understanding either. Muhammad founded a killing machine religion that's lasted for 14 centuries and keeps on killing. Islam was at first spread by the sword, but is now spread by semtex, PETN, RPG's, AK-47's and soon nuclear weapons.

Wellington's figure of 200 million killed as a result of Islam is quite conservative. Some say 220 million, others 250 million, yet others 270 million: 120 million Africans, 60 million Christians, 80 million Hindus, 10 million buddhists... Islam makes Stalin look like an amateur.

Islam is a wicked faith whose followers leech off us and plot and sometimes succeed in murdering us in cold blood, followed by partying and handing out sweets to their children as we pull our dead out of the wreckage. Thats why we want infidel-hating slimeballs like yourself out of our countries.

And many of us think it is well over 300 million infidels murdered in cold blood by Muslims over the centuries. And it would have been many more but for the likes of Pelayo, Charles Martel, Johannes Graf von Salm, Jean Parisol de la Valette and Jan Sobieski who drove back the Jihad over the course of almost 1,000 years.

@Spirit Of 1683

Indeed. My deep thanks to those in previous centuries that have recognized Islam for what it is - pure evil - and risked their lives fighting for their freedom (and, it turns out, our freedom). Islam means not only submission but slavery in the extreme: slavery for it's followers, slavery for those around them that don't follow Islam, and eventual slavery for all the rest on earth should Islam succeed.

If Muslims have their way, there will be billions more infidels murdered this century in cold blood. The Islamic imperative is to conquer the earth and make Allah's religion the only religion. Why don't our leaders and defense experts read and understand the Islamic source texts that have been around for centuries that describe in detail the threat that we're facing? I'll tell you why - liberalism, political correctness, cowardliness, multiculturalism, lack of integrity and lack of intelligence. I feel sorry for today's kids - they will have to either suffer slavery or rise up and fight against it. I fear this generation has failed them.