Shouts of "Allahu akbar" and "British go to hell" as Muslim woman sentenced to life for stabbing MP

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If Britain "goes to hell," it will be by the encroachment of Sharia, and all of the abuses, absurdities, and injustices it encompasses. Those include death for apostasy from Islam, cruel and unusual punishments like lashes, stonings and amputation, and the subjugation of women and of non-Muslims. More on this story. "Curse the judge, shout fanatics as the Muslim girl who knifed MP smiles as she gets life," by Michael Seamark for the Daily Mail, November 4 (thanks to Zulu):

A judge was subjected to a tirade of abuse in his own courtroom yesterday as he jailed an Al Qaeda-inspired Muslim woman for attempting to assassinate an MP.
Islamist protesters harangued Mr Justice Cooke from the public gallery at the Old Bailey, shouting 'Allahu akbar' ('God is great'), 'British go to hell' and 'Curse the judge'.

Someone who wants the British to go to hell must not consider himself British.

The outbursts came as Roshonara Choudhry, 21, was sentenced to life imprisonment for stabbing former minister Stephen Timms. Choudhry smiled broadly as the judge told her: 'You said you ruined the rest of your life. You said it was worth it. You said you wanted to be a martyr.'
Outside, a second group demonstrated as the judge told the high-flying student - who stabbed the politician twice in the stomach as 'punishment' for voting for the Iraq invasion - that she must serve at least 15 years behind bars.
The chaotic scenes unfolded as Home Secretary Theresa May dramatically revealed that the Al Qaeda gang behind last week's 'Lockerbie-style' cargo plane bomb plot are already working in the UK.
In court the judge pointedly contrasted Mr Timms' Christian beliefs with the 'distorted thinking' of his attacker, who refused to recognise the court and appeared by videolink for her sentencing.
'I understand that he (Mr Timms) brings to bear his own faith, which upholds very different values from those which appear to have driven this defendant,' he said.
'Those values are those upon which the common law of this country was founded and include respect and love for one's neighbour, for the foreigner in the land, and for those who consider themselves enemies, all as part of one's love of God.
'These values were the basis of our system of law and justice and I trust that they will remain so as well as motivating those, like Mr Timms, who hold public office.'...
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I wonder how many of these protesters are immigrants, receiving generous benefits from the British government ?

I hate to say it, but I think that the U.K. is doomed.

Islamist protesters harangued Mr Justice Cooke from the public gallery at the Old Bailey, shouting 'Allahu akbar' ('God is great'), 'British go to hell' and 'Curse the judge'.


Well,well,well. The liberal left will soon be out in force to soothe our justified feelings of anger at the members of the Medina Mafia.

It's nothing to do with Islam. It's the culture, they'll say.

OK. It's the culture. But Islam is the culture and the culture is Islam. They are one and the same, not two separate entities. So, the culture is everything to do with Islam.

the British Tory government needs to cut back on welfare especially those with multiple wives, these leeches can move back to their failed islamic states.

These must be the fabled moderate Muslims we hear so much about.

/sarc


Ha ha, admit it: the pictures are from a village somewhere in Pakistan.

It's extremely heartening to read Mr Justice Cooke's perceptive and beeswaxed summation. .Paul Hoffman, do not give up on Blighty yet, Mr Cooke spoke those words in the highest court in this land, and it bodes well despite the screeching baboons in the public gallery. . The Lion of Justice is not asleep. .

yes! it is a BAD religion/ideology, many of its er! top :-)self appointed scholars are BAD people, its fascist book is a BAD book, its pseudo er! "prophet" is a BAD man, a very, very BAD man
check out douglas murray on youtube, muhammed was a very bad man ;-)

I dont think Mr Justice Cooke spoke lightly considering that anything said about Islam has to get special clearance. Its a warning.

Ima, quite possibly you missed my comment above as you were writing yours. .the EDL is not a vigilante exercise whose intent it is to take the Law into their own hands. . The Establishment, as evidenced above, is starting to comprehend the depth of the issue here, and that is a good thing for everyone who genuinely wants to get ón with their own lives in peace.

I totally agree.

We're a tolerant country but the constant barrage of Muslim demands coupled with the obvious intransigence is having an effect.

My anger is that it took the near fatal stabbing of Timms to get any reaction from our establishment.

Still it's now on widespread record as is the outrageous behaviour of those in the Public Gallery.

We are awakening from the torpor.

Well Ms Choudhry must spend at least 15 years behind bars before she has a chance for parole! I wonder how many muslim women are behind bars in the UK!? I would guess not many (certainly less than in male prisons). Gosh, she'll have to spend a lot of time with kuffar women prisoners! Nice thought!

The penalty for someone who uses a deadly weapon to attack an MP or other elected representative in a liberal democratic society should be life without possibility of parole. That is not too harsh, given the fact that the crime is not just an attack on an individual, but on the democratic, law-based system itself. This was a crime of a little dictator who does not care about laws, except for those "laws" that she, in her arrogance, deems fit to impose unilaterally by force and violence on everyone. Despite appearances, Sharia is not law-based, but man-based, and merely arrogates to itself the right to speak for God and punish all who resist.

By contrast, Socrates had so much respect for law, and so much contempt for the lawbreaker, the little tyrant who makes himself a law, that Socrates refused to escape his unjust death sentence. He had other reasons, too, but a respect for the modesty of seeking truth through inquiry and conversation, and by extension, for law reached in the same way, was a key factor in his refusal to escape.

From looking at the photos above, why are there Islamic Barbarians in Britain? And who let them in?

What happened to my earlier post?

They can get away with a lot more than the EDL can, all the EDL have to do is wave a British flag and they end up in the back of a police van, the police are terrified of the people pictured.

What a great judge! Would that his comparables and his wise words wake up the British establishment such as Prince Phillip and the head of the Church of England.
Yes, England was founded upon the goodness of Jesus even though Henry the VIII is surly in hell.

Iceman, you're very, very wrong if you believe that 'the police are terrified of the people pictured'. .infact I'm willing to bet they took better pictures of those 'people' and relayed the images to HQ faster than the AP photog did.

London Jim,

Thanks for the clarification. My contention was that when are we going to DO something other than talk? I foresee a future where, when we FINALLY get it -- that is, everything wrong with Islam -- we will be faced with a situation like we did (in Canada and the US) during WWII; that is, internment camps for Muslims. If we don't stop the influx of Muslim immigrants now, give native-born Muslims the choices of 1) renunciation of Islam, 2) conversion to another (benign) religion, or 3) imprisonment (deportation for Muslim immigrants and their entire families at their expense), then where does that leave us?

It is already quite apparent to me that they are using our own laws pertaining to justice, freedom of speech, and human rights against us, none of which they are willing to afford us, so why are we giving them those benefits? I am a complete adherent to Voltaire's famous quote (sorry if it's a bit off), "I may disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it," but when Islamists around the world, but especially in our countries OPENLY call for violent jihad and the overthrow of our respective governments, when are the laws of sedition or high treason going to kick in?

They have no problem raping and pillaging in Europe without fear of reprisal, so my question essentially is why don't we give them something tangible to REALLY fear?

I just don't know. In advance, thanks to everyone for their input; I learn something new every day at JW.

Ima

I hate to say it, but I think that the U.K. is doomed.

More good news: Senator Amy Klobuchar (Socialist-MN) secured an 18 month extension for Somalis let into the States to escape persecution in their homeland.

*** 33:21 ***

I estimate that approximately 100% of these Somalis vote socialist, given that they're all on the welfar. Ok, maybe just 99.99%, somewhere in that range.

Senator Amy didn't say who is doing the persecuting in Mogadishu.

Henry VIII was extremely well educated, a true renaissance man. Larger than life, a magnificent king. Cruel and ruthless, sometimes. But he changed the course of history when he split with the Catholic Church for love of a woman, and the overweaning drive to sire a son and heir to ensure the stability of England.

Had he only known, it was the girl he produced who made England a world power, and gave her name to an age.

This Islamic jihad court case and its aftermath of Islamic jihad supporters condemning British people to hell in public, etc. raises hardly any opposition in Britain's three main political parties, nor, of course, from the publicly financed 'politically correct' propaganda outfit, the BBC. And the police will bring no charges.Such is the outrageous political preference given by the British political elite to Islamic jihad.

Britain's illiberal 'liberals' reserves its political wrath for the English Defence League, one of the few groups which stands up to such Islamic jihad inciters and lawbreakers.

"Radical website publishes MP 'death list'
A website which influenced a young Muslim to stab an MP has posted dozens more MPs’ names on a 'death list’ with an exhortation to Muslims to follow her example."

(by Andrew Gilligan)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/8111448/Radical-website-publishes-MP-death-list.html

Ima
The cogs are in motion. .as DP111 alludes to above. .

I agree with your comment about Henry VIII and his magnificent younger daughter. Henry could indeed be ruthless at times, but he lived in a ruthless age and the last thing he wanted was a return to the near anarchy spawned by the contest between Yorkists and Lancastrians in the previous century because he left only one legitimate offspring in Mary, whom he understandably feared would not be obeyed in an age still dominated by rough men. How ironic, though, that he went through all the trouble he did in getting rid of Catherine to "acquire" Anne only to see another daughter born. But how was he to know that Elizabeth would be extraordinary, for my money the greatest monarch in English history.

Too bad, actually, there isn't a Henry VIII type now functioning in the British political scene who would take no prisoners on the issue of Islam's future in Britain. Lesser type human beings than Henry now dominate the political landscape in the UK. Another Henry is needed or, even better, another Winston Churchill. I must also convey my disappointment with the present Queen. I know she has next to no power, and she's certainly more sensible than the silly Prince of Wales, but she either knows or should know that her country is very much changing for the worse precisely because Islam now has a foothold in Britain. Whatever influence she still retains should be used to insure her country doesn't go down the tubes via the Sharia route. Otherwise, what the hell is the monarchy really any longer good for if you don't put it on the line when your nation is in extreme distress?

Thanks for the good news, APF..because of you, I'll have to have another beer !

But that is exactly my worry.

One person, like the good Senator Amy Klobuchar, can do a lot of damage, on the national level.

Demographics are a huge factor in all of this.

But sharia doesn't worry Madame Senator, not when there are votes to be had...


'From looking at the photos above, why are there Islamic Barbarians in Britain? And who let them in? '

Who let them in? Jack Straw, Tony Blair and David Blunkett during the last Labour government.

Why? A year ago the Telegraph explained that 'The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.'

See here for details: http://tiny.cc/wi186

All three, and their cronies, should be on trial for treason.

'the pictures are from a village somewhere in Pakistan'

In some ways, Steffen, you are correct. Whole Pakistani villages have uprooted themselves and transferred their populations to Britain, assisted by the UK government.

It starts with one man, who then brings his wife (or wives) and kids. The kids then marry others from their old village, and bring their new spouses across, and so on. All perfectly legal and paid for by UK taxes. Before long all the people who once lived together in a village in Pakistan now live together in a street in Bradford.

Life is so much easier for them in Britain, with free housing, free food and pocket money, and they don't even have to learn English or change their culture in any way.

You can see from their faces in the pictures above how grateful they are to Britain for giving them such a wonderful opportunity for a new life of freedom.


What's wrong with giving those baboons an appointment with Jack Ketch? Can any society really afford to accommodate at public expense those who love, glorify, and practice violence?

Wellington, London Jim, et al,

How do you think Maggie Thatcher would deal with the Islam problem, or do you even think there would be one if she were still at the top of the heap?

Ima

We've already had instances of Islamist demonstrations both inside and outside English courtrooms. What I found particularly disturbing on this occasion was that a muslim woman on the jury was singled out for abuse:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/11/04/roshonara-choudhry-given-life-term-for-attempted-murder-of-labour-mp-stephen-timms-115875-22691068/

They taunted one Muslim juror in a veil: "Shame on you, sister!".

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23893919-al-qaida-inspired-woman-sentenced-after-stabbing-london-mp-stephen-timms.do

As sentence was passed two men were escorted from court by security guards as they repeatedly shouted: “Allahu Akbar” (God is great), “shame on the court” and “go to hell”. Then they turned to a young juror and screamed: “Shame on you sister, sitting on a jury, judging a Muslim sister.”

Other than to point it out as a separate issue I won't comment further on allowing veiled jurors.

It's a short step for jury intimidation to happen before the verdict rather than after.

Even with the current proportion of muslims in the potential pool of jurors, there's a good chance that there will generallly be at least one muslim on a jury in an English court.

This strikes at the heart of our system of justice and of trial by jury.

'Those [Christian] values are those upon which the common law of this country was founded." -- Mr. Justice Cook, addressing the stabber.

Bravo, Mr. Justice Cook! Now, if a judge in the U.S. would only have the guts to state what is obvious to everyone here. Of course, he/she would have CAIR and ACLU and the usual multicultis all over him/her. But sooner or later someone is going to have to stand up to these people.

The recent mid-term elections in the U.S., where a conservative tidal wave has just swept over the country and a massive turnover in Congress is pending, could mark the turning of opinion here. More and more people are becoming disenchanted by Obama, and I expect that now we will start seeing perceptible shifts in public opinion toward erecting firewalls against Islam. The recent legislation in Oklahoma to prevent judges from turning to shariah and international laws that violate the U.S. Constitution is the first visible instance of that shift. There will be more to follow.

"The irony of all this is that people like Timms have welcomed into this country thousands of thousands of people whoe hate our guts. All done to "enrich" the lives of us, the cultureless, boring indigenous British. The worst crime of all though is that we weren't even asked. These Islamist maniacs and the Multi-Culti utopians who love them so much deserve each other. But by God, the long suffering indigenous people here deserve neither".

Interesting comment taken from
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23894517-stephen-timms-i-dont-feel-bitter-but-im-not-quite-ready-to-forgive-my-knife-attacker.do

IMO, for their unpunished great treason the memory of a lot of Labour politicians should live in infamy.

It is a fact, a law of nature, that every action brings a reaction.

The more these Islamo-nazi thugs push their polluted cause, the more "al kuffar" will awaken and push back HARD.

We should welcome this.

My guess is that Thatcher, assuming she was still in her prime, would deal with the "Islam problem" peripherally, which would still definitely be better than not dealing with it at all because at least it would be addressed to some extent, contra the way the vast majority of Western politicians have come to grips with it, which is to say not at all. But I don't believe that Thatcher at her best would "pull a Reagan" and describe Islam as evil as Reagan did the Soviet Union. But that's what we need in the Western world because Islam is as wicked as Marxism, though it is an even better disguised evil than Marx's pernicious nonsense.

Perhaps I'm underestimating her here. I certainly admire her leadership capacities and think she was a statesman of the first rank, but many statesmen of the first rank (e.g., De Gaulle, Truman, Eisenhower, Adenauer) nonetheless did not tackle evil head on but rather obliquely. Only moral geniuses who retain the best of the simplicity of childhood ascend to the highest plane in the political arena. Abraham Lincoln did this. So did Ronald Reagan. Winston Churchill did this too and was a scholar as well, making him a being apart from almost anyone else I have ever come across in the pages of history. Well there, that's the best I can do with your interesting and very legitimate question.

"Had he only known, it was the girl he produced who made England a world power, and gave her name to an age."

Right, but the end of that age, too, as Elizabeth never married, which you know, of course. So, adieu Tudors' and hello Stuarts.

Kepha,
I'm not necessarily against capital punishment, but I do have qualms about it. But let's not get into a debate about that. We can agree that we both think the penalty for violent attacks on elected officials should be greater than it currently is.

Mr Justice Cook, reflecting upon the nature of Western civilisation:

'I understand that he (Mr Timms) brings to bear his own faith, which upholds very different values from those which appear to have driven this defendant,' he said.
'Those values are those upon which the common law of this country was founded and include respect and love for one's neighbour, for the foreigner in the land, and for those who consider themselves enemies, all as part of one's love of God.
'These values were the basis of our system of law and justice and I trust that they will remain so as well as motivating those, like Mr Timms, who hold public office.'...

Let's celebrate that civilisation, by way of affirming light against darkness, life against death, truth against falsehood.

Since England's greatest Queen, Elizabeth I, has been mentioned during the discussion, here are a couple of clips featuring her protege Thomas Tallis's extraordinary 40-part motet, Spem in Alium.

First, film of Ely Cathedral with Spem in Alium as soundtrack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TAeZymNu0o


And another lovely visual meditation accompanying the same piece as performed by the Choir of New College, Oxford:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZfujI9CXyw&feature=related


And - the King's Singers, all 6 of them, having a go at the same piece, with the marvels of modern technology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJDLQZWKWe8&feature=related

I threw this one in because of the faces. Watch the faces as they sing; then scroll back up to the top of this thread and look at the sneering faces of the jihadists spewing hate; then go back and watch the King's Singers 'in the zone': alive with intelligent concentration, creating heavenly music.

"Spem in alium numquam habui praeter in te
Deus Israel
qui irasceris
et propitius eris
et omnia peccata hominum in tribulatione dimittis
Domine Deus
Creator coeli et terrae
respice humilitatem nostram

I have never put my hope in any other but in You,
O God of Israel
who can show both anger
and graciousness,
and who absolves all the sins of suffering man
Lord God,
Creator of Heaven and Earth
be mindful of our lowliness."

Or, putting it briefly: O DEAR GOD ...HELP!!

A good prayer for all non-Muslims of a religious persuasion, in Britain, today.

The Judge should have had these creatures arrested for contempt of court. His summation indicated his complete lack of knowledge of Islam and its tenets. This thing tried to kill an MP and she gets a minimum of 15 years. She should have been jailed for life - and I mean life.

If she had been succesful in killing Mr Tims, she should have been executed.

The creatures in the court showed a complete contempt for our judicial system. As far as I am concerned they should have been arrested and sentenced to a minimum of 5 years and if naturalised should have been expelled from GB alongside thier welfare eating families.

Sorry to say it, but fire must be fought by fire, not platitudes.

Judging from the comments of some normally quite moderate people on this matter people are getting the hump big time and even talking about supporting/joining the BNP.

Hurray !!!!!!

veteranoutrage.com

Yep here we go
all the followers of the
religion of pieces Islam

Immidiatly when caught trying to murder some poor politician
they cry out you racists..
then they threaten to blow up the courtroom
then they go after the judge and policeman on duty..
and they tell their host nation to go to hell??

How about this one you islamic rag heads...

Islam is from the pitts of hell
so why dont you take your child molesting founders vile book
use it for toilet paper on a ship bound for somalia..?

Go there and enjoy your islamic paradise you drug dealing , child molesting, mass murdering psychopaths.


veteranoutrage.com

Because islam SUCKS and so did mohammed..
he liked 5 year old boys - its in the koran as well.

I find it rather ironic that Labour, having spent years conspiring against the British people and allowing the importation of millions of Muslims to "wipe Conservative and the middle class noses in multiculturalism", are on the receiving end of their multiculturalist experiment which is stabbing them in the guts - literally.

The Lion Of Justice in the UK better have some serious talks with the Queen & start deporting muslims immediately back to the sans dunes.

They have help, all they need to do is ask. I think many countries would come to their aid to rid themselves of Islam once & for all. They could sweep the UK & France all at once. I bet they'd be far more careful about who they let into their countries after this.

Europe, close your borders, deport all those opposing your constitution (Muslims), & cleanse your countries. If the Queen doesn't start doing something now, she'll end up dead or a prisoner in her own palace. God save the Queen.

What a sight.........being dragged screaming and kicking into a jail cell - for life - guess "allah akabar" don't mean nothing now!

More on the contemptible Islamist demonstrators
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326844/DIY-jihadists-Roshonara-Choudhry-supporters-living-benefits.html

I met two of the protesters in a coffee bar in Ilford, East London, after receiving a call from an intermediary within the fanatical group Islam4uk. I found that both are living on ­benefits, one claiming to suffer from chronic fatigue disorder, while they orchestrate an Islamic backlash against Britain.

Although both use Islamic pseudonyms – Abu Saalihah and Abu Abdullah – their birth names are Mohammed Shamsuddin and Mohammed Haroon Saleem. As Shamsuddin, 34, told me: ‘The majority of Muslims sympathise with our Sister Roshonara. They view her as their heroine now.
‘The Islamic websites and forums are full of messages of support for her and anger at the Old Bailey judge. Men and women are inflamed by the harshness of the sentence she was given.’
Shamsuddin and Saleem, along with a third radical, East London office administrator Abu Yahya, 27, (who refused to give his birth name) escaped scot free after the Old Bailey outrage despite some MPs’ demands for their arrest for contempt of court.
‘We were told by a police officer outside the court that the judge had sent us a message to say, “Don’t do this again and you’ll be all right”. I would have gone to prison for a week and was surprised I wasn’t sent there. I would happily have done so,’ said Shamsuddin, with a smile playing on his bearded face.

Saleem, 29, added: ‘It is going to happen again, I promise you.

The two men are obviously well-educated. Shamsuddin studied at Southampton’s Solent University and ran the Islamic Society there... He was radicalised after inviting Omar Bakri Mohammed (an extremist Muslim cleric now banned from Britain) to speak at the university.

Shamsuddin now has four children, three girls and a boy. Two of them go to private schools at a cost of £2,000 a year each, although he is living off benefits at a family house in Walthamstow.

Saleem has four children, two girls and two boys, and lives in Ilford. He too is jobless and claiming benefits. ‘I used to be a quality controller at a meat factory but they laid people off last year. I am looking for another job,’ he told me.

"SPECIAL REPORT:

"The 'DIY jihadists' paid for by us... Roshonara Choudhry supporters are living on benefits"

(by Sue Reid)

[Opening excerpt}:

"They refuse to apologise for their vile rant at the Old Bailey that made a mockery of our justice system.
Nor are they repentant over ­supporting the radical Muslim woman on trial there for trying to kill an MP in a knife attack.
As 21-year-old London University student Roshonara Choudhry was sentenced to life on Wednesday, they cursed the judge from the public gallery and hurled abuse at a terrified female juror wearing a Muslim headscarf, screaming ‘Shame on you, sister’."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326844/DIY-jihadists-Roshonara-Choudhry-supporters-living-benefits.html#ixzz14P5O7xVm


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326844/DIY-jihadists-Roshonara-Choudhry-supporters-living-benefits.html#ixzz14P4Z1yKv

"SPECIAL REPORT:

"The 'DIY jihadists' paid for by us... Roshonara Choudhry supporters are living on benefits"

(by Sue Reid)

[Opening excerpt]:-

"They refuse to apologise for their vile rant at the Old Bailey that made a mockery of our justice system.
Nor are they repentant over ­supporting the radical Muslim woman on trial there for trying to kill an MP in a knife attack.
As 21-year-old London University student Roshonara Choudhry was sentenced to life on Wednesday, they cursed the judge from the public gallery and hurled abuse at a terrified female juror wearing a Muslim headscarf, screaming ‘Shame on you, sister’."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326844/DIY-jihadists-Roshonara-Choudhry-supporters-living-benefits.html#ixzz14P5O7xVm

Is it possible that the average British citizenry will one day collectively wake up, realize the danger they are in, and take drastic, concrete action to put an end to it?

They need their own version of the TEA Party.

If Britain goes to hell, who is going to earn their dole money its suicidal they will starve to death, but I suppose that will earn you fifty virgins and you get to be called a martyr anyway.

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