More movement of Turkey toward Islam and away from Kemalist secularism and its alliance with Israel. "In Lebanon's Beirut, shift of Turkish axis is welcomed," by Patrick Galey for Hürriyet Daily News, November 25 (thanks to Joel):
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan departed Lebanon on Thursday after a two-day visit, the timing of which should not be taken lightly, according to experts.Erdoğan's trip to Lebanon came just weeks after Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad came to the Lebanese capital and days before Lebanese Prime Minister Saad al-Hariri is scheduled to travel to Tehran.
Amal Saad Ghorayeb, research adviser at Qatar-based think tank the Doha Institute, said Erdoğan's presence in Lebanon so soon after Ahmadinejad's demonstrates a key policy shift. "It's an important detail because it indicates that there are not two contradictory messages behind these visits," she told the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review on Thursday. "Turkey is moving closer to the so-called 'resistance axis.' It is edging toward a definitively anti-Israeli stance."
The Turkish prime minister said Thursday that his country would not remain silent if Israel attacked Lebanon or the Gaza Strip, as ties between the long-time allies remain at an all-time low. "We will not be silent and we will support justice by all means available to us," the Turkish prime minister said.
During a speech he made in a village in northern Lebanon inhabited by Turkmen families, Erdoğan called on Israel to apologize for its regional mistakes. He also inspected Turkish troops serving with the U.N. Interim Force in Lebanon at the Israeli border who are stationed in the area.
His remarks echoed, albeit less stridently, sentiments expressed by Ahmadinejad during speeches he delivered during his Lebanon trip....
once again israel is alone, the proverbial canary in the coal mine.
i believe that at the moment there is a paralysis by analysis. the west and israel too for that matter, are frozen like deer caught in headlights.
all the while the evil axis of islam is advancing like a flood, that you can clearly see coming...
the fight is not between country a vs b or c or d....
it is a fight to the death between two IDEOLOGIES.
israel does not need the blessing of the muslime in chief, since if anything, he will try to bring israel to its knees.
as such israel has a very tall order to deal with, and she cannot afford a long drawn confrontation with its enemies and thus, must hit hard and fast AND FINISH THE JOB!!!
oddly enough, (and this is a very alarming symptom of western democracies) there is a very strong liberal movement in israel proper that STILL refuses to see the enemy for what it is ...
seems like true patriots are shackled warriors and must fight with one hand tied to their back as your co-panelist mark thiessen said in the 'after the mosque' thread
Where Recep the-barking-arab Erdoclown says "the future sharia arab sultanate of Erdoganistan would not remain silent if Israel attacked Lebanon or the Gaza Strip", it actually means "the future sharia arab sultanate of Erdoganistan would not remain silent if Israel defended itself against attacks by hezbollah or ham-ass."
Israel will win the confrontation when Turkey and it's allies attack. They will use nuclear weapons.
"He also inspected Turkish troops serving with the U.N. Interim Force in Lebanon at the Israeli border who are stationed in the area."
hmmmm, must be the same UN forces put in to monitor and stop Hizbollah arms buildups....These same UN forces actually threatened to shoot down Isreali Surveillance jets and actually help Hizbollah unload weapons and munitions shipments now in place for the next time they provoke Israel into a shoot-out....
The Turkish prime minister said Thursday that his country would not remain silent if Israel attacked Lebanon or the Gaza Strip....
More raised eyebrows and tut-tutting? We'll cut your aid packages and military assistance to zero. Cluck away.
I say, "bring it on and let's get this dirty show on the road." Diplomacy seems to be a western and democratic notion and should not be applied to Islamic states who actually use the softly softly democratic dialogue to delay and bolster support among themselves.
These thuggish theocracies are using and abusing us.
Use an iron fist and make them pull their heads in before they take ours off.
What will NATO response be to armed conflict between Turkey and Israel? Help Turkey? UNFIL?
What about the US use of Turkish Airbases and airspace supporting Iraq and Afcrapistan? Does Obamas Israeli policy's make them a target as well? Israel cannot let Turkish aircraft fly at will if events come to blows. Even unintentional harm to US material or personnel would fuel anti Israeli sentiment.
There is no "change" more fundamental than that of changing a Friend into a combatant.
Now what was that phrase Obama used to win the office of the Presidency with again?