UK: Ex-Gitmo detainees to be paid millions

They claim they were tortured, and the British government is going to pay them off rather than reveal intelligence secrets. More courtroom jihad: "Government to compensate ex-Guantanamo Bay detainees," from the BBC, November 16 (thanks to all who sent this in):

Around a dozen men, who accused British security forces of colluding in their torture overseas, are to get millions in compensation from the UK government.

Some of the men, who are all British citizens or residents, were detained at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp in Cuba.

At least six of them alleged UK forces were complicit in their torture before they arrived at Guantanamo.

A ministerial statement on the out-of-court settlement is due to be made in the House of Commons later on Tuesday.

It is believed the government wanted to avoid a lengthy and costly court case which would also have put the British secret intelligence services under the spotlight.

Bisher al-Rawi, Jamil el Banna, Richard Belmar, Omar Deghayes, Binyam Mohamed and Martin Mubanga were among those who had begun High Court cases against the government.

They had claimed that UK intelligence agencies and three government departments were complicit in their torture and should have prevented it.

In May, the Court of Appeal ruled that the government was unable to rely on "secret evidence" to defend itself against the six cases....

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They claim they were tortured. Suuure.

That's straight out of the Al Qaeda playbook.

But here's how *some* detainees - I won't say all, but some, and maybe a good few - routinely behaved, once captured and on their way to Gitmo, and then while they were there.

(Don't read on, if you are eating or drinking anything whilst sitting at your computer).

It was posted in this thread, in 2005 - :
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/07/india-victim-ordered-to-wed-rapist.html


'The Religion of Peace.


'Take a look at some of the news reports that come out from time to time regarding the circumsizing [sic] of women. Cutting out the clitoris, and often cutting off the labia.

'You will find that it happens in the Sudan, Nigeria, Ethiopia, etc., and sometimes among immigrant groups in the West (yeah, even here in Texas). Mostly Muslims.

'The more I learn about these people the more disgusted I become.

' I am a fifty-something year old lawyer.

'I have been a police commissioner and, later, spent three months on a grand jury in a major city. I participated in the criminal indictment of over 1,400 people for felony crimes. Rape, murder, all the rest.

'And I am filled with awe and revulsion at the constant stream of revelations of this Religion of Peace.

'It seems to me that evil (and islam and its fervent practioners are surely evil) has the ability to fascinate its victims and observers so thoroughly that they are immobilized--like a cobra fascinates its prey.

'People, most people, the public at large if you will, are going through great contortions of mind to excuse, overlook, ignore, or explain the horrendous atrocities that are perpetrated in the name of islam every hour of every day, over and over and over, one bizarre outrage after another.

(Now for the kicker - dda)

'Through my work as a lawyer, I was introduced to a young soldier, about 20, who was visiting his mother while on leave about two years ago.

'He was in a transportation unit, and had flown on the flight (or one of the flights) carrying prisioners from Afghanistan to Gitmo.

'He told me that it was terrible duty.

'The prisoners would defecate in their pants, and although they were chained, some managed to squeeze their hands down and grab a handfull.

'They would throw this excrement on the guards as best and as often as they could.

'
I have heard reports, from others, that they have done the same thing at Gitmo.

'Of course, there, semen is often the projectile of choice, particularly for women guards.

'The prisoners refer to this process as "anointing" the guards.

'I serioulsy doubt if this ritual is limited to Gitmo, and when I hear of some Iraqi or Afghan prisoner being chained up in his own filth, I suspect that it is a punishment for such an anointment.

'The guards letting the prisioner have a taste of his own medicine.

'Anointment. The evil sacrament.'

- Posted by: texan at July 20, 2005 4:37 PM

I may be wrong about this - the older gentlemen here, with better knowledge of WWII, are free to correct me if I am - but I don't think any Japanese, or German prisoners of the Allies, or Allied prisoners of the Germans or Japanese, ever resorted to such puerile and revolting practices, no matter how much they detested those who had captured and imprisoned them.

''Fi Fi Fo Fum. . I smell the blood of an Englishman''. . .
''Now where the Dickens is that bean I sold our last calf for?''. .thinks Jack to himself. .

Make the cheque payable to The the Taliban CO/The ISI, Pakistan. Or why not just cut the charade about the money and roll over, David Cameron, you lost the war on terrorism.

Essentially paying these rat b*sturds to continue killing us . . . insane!

Pay them? Well, if you must, but do it with Monopoly money and see how far it gets the bastards.


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Be nice to Muslims? I'd sooner french-kiss a Murloc.

There are easier solutions than paying these barbarians. Sounds to me like a job for Callan!

Doesn't MI5 have hit men anymore?

"The prisoners would defecate in their pants, and although they were chained, some managed to squeeze their hands down and grab a handfull".
These disgusting prisoners should be put in a cell with defecating pigs as a punishment. I bet they will become model inmates after this treatment.
We all know the story about general Black Jack Pershing who made good use of pigs to subdue muhammadan insurgents in the Phillipines.

These scumbags have no idea what real torture is. In China they chain the prisoners wrists so tight the skin binds to and grows over it. If these mooslimes dared to whine like that the Chinese would torture them some more and when they've had their fill, they'd execute them.

The West has grown extremely soft in dealing with our enemies. I'm not saying we should be as barbaric as the Chinese, I'm saying we should stop caving to these terrorists demands and be ready to execute them because we are in a real war.

The only man with brass balls was Dick Cheney-we could've used a real warrior like him in such a cowardly, pussified age we live in. But the retarded treasonous left neutralized him as an effective leader to fight the war against Islam. Hopefully we'll have someone equal or better take his place in 2012.

Because of Bush and Obama's incompetence in refusing to stop Iran's nuke program, a future 9/11 will be nuclear and the death toll will be in the hundreds of thousands if not millions. It likely won't be a one off attack, just as during 9/11 they didn't hijack just one plane.

Politically correctness will wind up killing a great many people until the West finally realizes what they should've all along, that Islam is in a war against all of humanity to conquer the world and won't stop until it is defeated-just as Nazism was.

English Defense League where are you?

typo: political correctness

This is why you need to quickly hang all captured jihadi terrorists.

Pigskin nooses and crematethem on a porkfat pyre.

WTF!!!!!! Unbelievable.... Great Britain is doomed and defeated.

Bullets are a hell of alot cheaper...

@rat, contrary to your, understandably, gloomy prediction regarding the fate of Britain, our wee gathering of Isles has long been a crucible in the field of Time. .we're not acted-out quite yet. . .and by-the-by, you best change your name 'afore Whittington finds his cat;-)

No wonder the UK is suffering such a severe financial crisis - go figure?! But it really doesn't matter for the UK, like California - is simply a lost cause.

The shit flinging behaviour? It seems to be a terrorist thing.

Nearest parallel I can think of is the H-Block "dirty protests" by IRA internees about 30 years ago, refusing to wear prison issue clothing but wearing blankets, smearing excrement on the walls of their cells, and refusing to wash or shave.

Mush more recently, reported in July 2010, excrement and urine has been thrown at warders by dissident republican prisoners in Northern Ireland. If you read the account below you'll recognise the tactics.

http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/Prison-39dirty-protest39-is-echo.6449069.jp


Prison 'dirty protest' is echo of troubled past.
Published Date: 30 July 2010
DISSIDENT republicans engaged in a so-called "dirty protest" in Maghaberry prison have created "atrocious" conditions for prison staff over the last three months, according to the officers' representative body.

The 28 men involved have been throwing containers of urine, often mixed with excrement, over prison landings and, on occasion, aiming the urine at the prison officers.

Finlay Spratt, of the Prison Officers Association, said staff have no option but to wear protective clothing to combat the health hazard

Mr Spratt said that as well as the "unbearable conditions" due to the protest, the officers are facing "threats and intimidation" from inmates.

"Our members face regular threats while they're on duty and it definitely has an effect on their well-being. They're having to put up with that, as well as the dirty protests taking place, and it really is a ridiculous state of affairs."

A number of commentators, politicians and prisoners' support groups have warned that "the story could end very badly indeed".

In scenes reminiscent of the H-Block protests 30 years ago, the republican prisoners are demanding a return to the regime enjoyed by the Maze prisoners in the years following the 1981 hunger strike.

Dissident republicans are currently held in Roe House at Maghaberry where they claim to be subjected to frequent strip searches they describe as "degrading".

The inmates also have issues regarding the lack of free association with other prisoners, interference with their food from people outside the wing, and long periods of being confined to their cells.

Although the 1981 hunger strike was seen as Margaret Thatcher successfully facing down the terrorists' demands, many concessions to prisoners were made in subsequent years.

To date, prison authorities are refusing to bow to the desire of dissidents for history to repeat itself.

The current, more tightly-controlled regime at Roe House has resulted in prisoners being permitted to congregate only in small groups under the close supervision of prison staff, and to undergo frequent body searches.

Republican prisoner Liam Hannaway – a relative of Sinn Fein president Gerry Adams – ended a 42-day hunger strike at Maghaberry in May this year with supporters claiming that his demands to be moved out of the isolation wing had been met.

Separate legal actions are also ongoing relating to conditions at the prison.

Harry Fitzsimmons, from west Belfast, recently progressed his case for a judicial review to challenge the legality of the strip searches, and fellow prisoner Stephen O'Donnell will soon have a judicial review of his daily lock-down routine.

Several political commentators are beginning to express concern that the current protest could escalate with one – Eamonn McCann – making the ominous prediction that "this story could end very badly indeed".

In May this year, after dissidents damaged basins and toilets in their cells at Maghaberry, justice minister David Ford said: "This is the latest in a series of actions by a small number of prisoners, designed to form the impression that they are being mistreated."

The minister said they would not succeed in their campaign of violence and added: "They seem determined to create conditions which they will then complain about, but they will have no one to blame but themselves."

The solution is so simple I can not believe the UK has not already done it. Dead people people done sue, therefore no monies need be paid. Very simple sulution SSA.

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