Baltimore jihadist posted on Facebook calling for violence to stop "oppression of Muslims," and saying he "hated" anyone who opposed Allah and Muhammad

Kepha he will never blame islam for his ills. muslims seldom do hence pakistan, afghanistan and on and on.

Ah Wellington, you have answered your own questions. lets look shall we?

He hated anyone who opposed Allah and Mohammed?
Of course, the koran tells him to.

How can any sensible and knowledgeable person not be filled with loathing for Allah and Mohammed?
Obviously muslims are lacking any form of knowledge or sensibility to begin with or they would not believe a single word of the koran.

Allah is a perversion of the Judeo-Christian God ('bout time the vast majority of Christians and Jews realize this) and Mohammed a pale imitation and warped version of Jesus and several Old Testament personalities ('bout time this is realized too).

I would say this is an accurate statement, however it goes much deeper than what you have stated. Mo's allah is a perversion of the universal laws of civility. To put it another way, the Judeo Christian God's 10 commandments form the basis of most common law, thou shall not steal, thou shall not kill, etc, etc. Mo's law validates the breakage of all that makes us civilized. Murder is not only ok, it is actually encouraged. Stealing is not only ok, it is actually encouraged. I would say David Koresh and the Branch Dividians were a perversion of Christianity, Mo goes much deeper. Hope I am not splitting hairs here, if so accept my humble apology.

KK,

I say we save a lot of time and money and just send him to Pakistan, like he wants. There must be lots of military aircraft going that way, just open the door and let him out.

I've suggested this very same thing over the years. Hell, I would be very happy to transport this turd (and all his co-religionists) in the forward cargo hold of one our 767s back to one of the 'Stans. And if he just managed not to turn into a big islamo-cicle in the process, I think a few more hours waiting to be unloaded on the ramp in Bishkek would do the trick.

As always, just a suggestion...

Not splitting hairs at all, AI, and thus no apology necessary. You filled in what I left out. I agree with all you wrote.

Thanks, Heidi, for the link to that clip. I couldn't help but notice that the broadcaster spoke in the usual MSM mode with phrases like "right-wing" (bet he never uses the phrase "left-wing"). The elderly Israeli speaking, though, was right on the money about Islam. Wherever it exists, there are problems, only the degree is a variance. And no, I have not read Huntington's work but I should have by now. I'll see what I can do about this in the months ahead. I do, however, remain optimistic long term that Islam will not triumph over liberty, but it's going to be a very bloody affair before this happens, courtesy of man's worst religion of all time and the continued ignorance of way too many people in the freest nations on earth.

Heidi I have not read the book. I feel as if I have learned enough reading different things on the net that I can say the following with certainty:

Islam does indeed totally hijack a persons self, being mind, body and soul. I can also say with near certainty that we can not stop the clash between civilization and islam. I can say though that it is my belief that the majority of the people believe what they believe about islam and muslims in general not from conviction, but from guilt. Once enough bad things have happened the far lefts demagoguery and political correctness, the media force feeding us a line about 'the religion of peace' will not be enough to turn the tide of public opinion and a true war will take place. Will we win? That depends on a lot of social factors and population demographics.

Right now if one reads the comments section of news articles the tide is starting to turn against islam. I don't think it will take much more to really start a chain reaction. Here is the problem as I see it. The population will awaken long before the government does. Americans have typically taken issues and problems among themselves to fix. The government, through liberalism, has tried to bury that trait of Americans, literally tried to kill it and make the population reliant upon massive federalism. The situation with islam will be no different. The people will do something, the people who do, while in fact will be true patriots, the government will demonize them as racist, hate mongering criminals. This has apparently already happened in Portland. A tipping point has not yet happened to where the vast majority of Americans support taking the war to the muslim population in America. Eventually that will not be the case and 'vigilantism' will be supported by the population. The way I see it vigilantes may very well be necessary to beat this enemy. Before one looks down on what I am saying think about justice in the old west.

"Allah is a perversion of the Judeo-Christian God"

"Allah" is simply the Arabic word for God ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah ). "Allah" is not exclusive to Islam. Jewish and Arab Christians also refer to God as "Allah".

But what is indeed a "perversion of the Judeo-Christian God" is the *Islamic concept* of "Allah". As such, the Islamic concept of Allah/God is a non-existent God. So, why blame a non-existent God?

Allah/God is not responsible for Islam, but Muhammad is. Allah/God is not responsible for all the demonic activities committed in His name by murderous and fanatical Muslims. These fanatical Muslims are responsible for their own murderous and demonic activities - not Allah/God.

Living Stone I have read your comments before about allah/god and I really don't understand what your point is, maybe I am just dense.

While I may have expounded on what Wellington said, which I shouldn't have most likely as Wellington is far more educated than I, he was right on about Mo using the concepts of the Abrahamic faiths to his own personal gain. While most will not see the parallels between the God of the Jews and Christians,they are indeed there in a very twisted, sick, and demented fashion.

If one was to concede that allah and God as words mean the same thing that in no way detracts from Wellingtons points.

This continued ignorance is no one's fault but our own with all the resources available today. It's almost as if our "government" -- I have started enclosing the word in quotation marks much like I do "President" -- is fostering and encouraging this ignorance. We are at a crucial point in the viability of human civilization, IMO.

Kepha wrote:

Will a guy like Antonio Martinez stay Muslim when he finds himself deported back to Nicaragua after umpteen years in a US prison?
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Sadly, Kepha, it will never happen. From the article:

Baltimore television WBAL-TV reported that the suspect was a US national of Nicaraguan descent
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It's a bit vague, but I assume that means he is a naturalized citizen—I haven't seen any indication that he was born here, and is merely of Nicaraguan heritage.

Of course, I believe that anyone who takes the oath of citizenship and then commits the sort of treason that Muhammad Hussain did *should be deported*—but he won't.

Power to the vigilantes, I say. Our "government" is only peddling apathy with regard to Islam. With the MSM and many elites and even religious leaders in their trance, they seem to be doing quite a good job of it.

I do hope the tide of public opinion is turning on them though, thanks to news sites and freedom fighters such as Jihad Watch, Atlas Shrugs, Weasel Zippers (my favorites!).

Hopefully some freedom-loving chickens will be coming home to roost soon.

Huntington's now famous "Clash of Civilizations" thesis was first published in 1993 in Foreign Affairs. It was later expanded and published as a book in 1996. In it he coined the phrase "bloody borders of Islam". Widely criticized by leftists in academia and the main stream media, his predictions about the global spread of Islamic violence against the non-Muslim world have unfortunately proven true and his critics have had to run for cover. He died in 2008.

I agree, Eastview. Ours is a sub-standard age. Interestingly though, what makes it so sub-standard is unorthodox in its constitution. Rather than the usual dearth of freedom and affluence, which has invariably led to wars and other miseries and always will, the most free societies on earth are being done in by freedom not properly appreciated or understood and affluence taken for granted and thus abused.

It's a bitter irony---coming close to being done in by success, such success being the result of the wisdom and sacrifices by so many generations in the West who came before us. And waiting in a dark corner observing this aberration is man's best disguised totalitarian ideology of all time. Ah yes, the Great Parasite is chomping at the bit.

I would say that Antonio hates me...

He hates me, too.

Heidi, there is a short essay version of Huntington's Clash of Civilisations available on the Internet, last time I looked, and the book is often available in used bookstores if you have more time and inclination. As well, Amazon often offers books at a price as good as or better than used bookstores without the hassles of trying to find a particular title. On the other hand, if you go to a store section in the hope of finding something specific and don't find it, you might well come across any number of other worthwhile titles you might not know of without such a trip. And now that Hugh is no longer here to list the world's canon of essential works for us, used bookshops might be as good an option as any. Then to scour the bibliographies of old books, given that libraries often use "compact shelving" out of sight of the general researcher, browsing not allowed so much. Regardless, Huntington is easily found, and his book is easy to read, little jargon, simple sentence constructions, short paragraphs, and so on. More or less worth the investment.

You've been here for a relative long time, so I assume there is little in Huntington for you that's new. However, his is one of those "basic" books we should all have some acquaintance with just in case it comes up in conversation. Personally I prefer those "Orientalists" Edward Said made a career of bashing. I hadn't thought of it till just now but his book might well have the best bibliography available to us here. Then follow those bibliographies to other works and so on. Islam is, for me, endlessly boring, the more I learn about it the more disappointed I am in it, finding it to be sterile and vacuous and moreso all the time. The upside to it is that many of the Orientalists of decades and centuries ago were extremely well-educated and oft times were brilliant stylists as well, making them wonderful to read and consider. Huntington suffers in comparison to many of them. Still, a good book to know.

exsgtbrown : 'Becoming a Muslim brings out the worst in people...'

If I may correct the small error you made.

'moslem = the worst people'

Fixed.

"Living Stone I have read your comments before about allah/god and I really don't understand what your point is..."

Can we agree that Muhammad was a false prophet? If so, then based on that premise, we should not accept Muhammad's Islamic narrative - namely that Allah/God is the author of Islam, that Allah/God hates Jews, Christians, and all non-Muslims, that Allah/God approves of murder, deceit, abuse of women/girls, etc...

Therefore, we should not blame or hate Allah/God for all that is evil in Islam. Allah/God is not responsible for all that is evil in Islam, nor for all the evil that many Muslims have committed over the past 1400 or so years, despite the fact that these evil acts were committed by such Muslims in Allah's/God's name.

If someone committed a crime in your name even though you did not tell that person to commit any crime, are you responsible for the crime he committed? Of course not.

In the same way, Muslims commit all kinds of evil in Allah's/God's name because they falsely believe that Allah/God commanded them to do so based on the false Islamic scriptures written or inspired by the false prophet Muhammad. But such evil things could not have come from Allah/God because that is contrary to Allah's/God's divine nature. Allah/God is totally good and thrice holy and could not have issued such evil commands as contained in Islam and as purported by the false prophet Muhammad.

Therefore, we should reject the false Islamic narrative of Muhammad about Allah. And we should not blame Allah/God for all that is evil in Islam and for all the evil words and acts that have been said or committed by some Muslims throughout the past, the evils that are being committed in the present, and all the evils that will be committed in the future by fanatical, criminal, murderous Muslims. But to qualify and to clarify the previous statement, not all Muslims are fanatical, criminal, and murderous.

Have you actually read the following article about "Allah"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

Geraldo on Billie O's The Factor last night claimed...

As I understand it Geraldo finished last in his law school class.

*** 33:21 ***

Not that this matters, after all, Prez Barack Hussein was *editor* of the *Harvard* Law Review, which is very very very very very very very presigious. And Prez Barack Hussein not only tacitly supports Moslem Activism, as a *Columbia*-trained historian (also prestigious, but only with 3 or 4 prestigiation very's), made the discovery that Moslems helped build America.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it, Swami.

Geraldo on Billie O's The Factor last night claimed...

As I understand it Geraldo finished last in his law school class. And we all know about the legal skills of actual law school graduates. Geraldo was flashing that last night along with his goofy mustache.

*** 33:21 ***

Not that this matters, after all, Prez Barack Hussein was *editor* of the *Harvard* Law Review, which is very very very very very very very prestigious. And Prez Barack Hussein not only tacitly supports Moslem Activism, as a *Columbia*-trained historian (also prestigious, but only with 3 or 4 prestigiation very's), made the discovery that Moslems helped build America.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it, Swami.

All you are doing is revealing that you comprehend neither Christianity nor Judaism. To contemptuously lump them together with Islam as 'semitic desert religions' produced by mineral deficiencies in the brain, is simply wrong and to write off YHWH - "I will be what I will be" - as 'limited in scope and patriarchal' is also quite bizarre.

Before you open your mouth again on the subject, please read Dr Mark Durie, "Revelation? Do We Worship the Same God? Jesus, God, Holy Spirit in Christianity and Islam", and then read Franz Rosenzweig, "The Star of Redemption". That at least ought to expose to you the enormous, uncrossable, bottomless gulf between the way in which the biblical faiths - Christianity and Judaism - understand the cosmos, god, and humanity and the relations between them, and the way in which Islam thinks of those subjects.

There is in fact no similarity at all. Rosenzweig, to be blunt, classified Islam as a subspecies of paganism.

Indeed, Sir. Seems so simple. Great idea.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it, Swami.

I tried that once...I didn't get high, but I did get a serious headache and had a years worth of bad dreams...

Yes -- Hugh is greatly missed. He could always be counted on to condense several centuries of history into a few choice sentences for me.

Now what am I supposed to do?? Learn it myself?????

Luckily -- the public library has a copy of this book on hand. I know you have your own collection -- and do so look forward to the day when I don't have to rent/borrow books!

This author addresses how China plays out in all of this Islamization. That's what I want to understand.

From one of the customer reviews @ amazon.com:

"Published in 1996, Huntington's book is stunningly prescient given the events of 9-11. He begins by mapping and describing his paradigm of the world's eight current major civilizations: Sinic, Islamic, Hindu, Western, Latin American, African, Orthodox, and Japanese. Much of the book is dedicated to an exposition of the relative rise and fall in fortunes of each. His well-argued thesis is that Western Civilization, led by its core state--the U.S., has been and continues to be in a period of relative decline versus other civilizations. These civilizations, namely Sinic (Chinese) and Islamic, perceive themselves superior and dominating over the long run."

Hi, dda - There's a whole school of thought (exemplified by Arnold Toynbee) which dismisses religion, philosophy, all creations of the human mind & spirit, and puts forth stuff like zinc in the diet, climate, geography, scenery as the real driving power of civilization -- hence cancelling the Renaissance, the Reformation, and the Enlightenment.
Of course we who have a mind inside the skull know that one of Christ's main tasks was to bring a Messianic version of Judaism to the nations ( as outlined previously by the prophet Isaiah - who was a Jew). Giving this version of Judaism to the nations of the world was in fulfillment of Judaism, not competition with it.
That YHWH is indeed limited in scope in a practical sense is because He thereby gives his people wide latitude of freedom to interact with Him.
There's another commenter, Living Stone, who wants to rescue the good name and reputation of something called "Allah/God". Such an entity "Allah/God" appears nowhere in any scripture of any religion. Maybe Living Stone would also like to say good things about "Molech/God" or "Satan/God". The blasphemy is his, not mine. His premise is that there is no devil, no evil spirit.

"Such an entity "Allah/God" appears nowhere in any scripture of any religion."

If you'd have bothered to read the article I linked to ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah ), you'd have learned that "Allah" is in the Holy Scriptures of Arab Jews and Arab Christians. "Allah" is not exclusive to Islam.

Don't put words in my mouth. The blasphemy that you wrote is yours, not mine. I never said or wrote such blasphemous things, but you did.

You have coined the term "Allah/God" which does not appear in Arabic language scripture. God is not an Arabic word. I am not an Arab Christian so I can't speak for them. If I was I might think it a good idea to change the word "Allah" to some other Arabic word. Let someone cognizant of Arabic language come forth. The term you invent "Allah/God" is extremely offensive to me. Do you wish to offend me and others like me? Of course most of us know the semitic word "el" means god. So what else is new?

"You have coined the term "Allah/God" which does not appear in Arabic language scripture. God is not an Arabic word. I am not an Arab Christian so I can't speak for them. If I was I might think it a good idea to change the word "Allah" to some other Arabic word. Let someone cognizant of Arabic language come forth."

"Allah/God" is made up of two terms. "Allah" is Arabic and "God" is English. When I write "Allah/God", that is short for "'Allah' in Arabic is equivalent to 'God' in English."

Again, if you'd have read this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah , you'd have learned that Arab Jews and Arab Christians refer to God as "Allah" in Arabic. You'd have learned that "Allah" is not exclusive to Islam.

This is why "Allahu Akbar" is translated as "God is great" or "God is greater" or "God is the greatest". My point in quoting this is that the Arabic word "Allah" is equivalent to the English word "God".

"The meanings of words are defined by their longstanding usage among speakers and writers of the language, not by what wikipedia says."

Yeah, I suppose wikipedia pulled this article out of thin air: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah ...

"You have implied, in your original post, that the spirit appearing to Muhammed which he calls either Gibreel or Allah was actually the true God..."

I don't know how you got that from what I wrote because I always emphasize explicitly that Islam is not from Allah/God and that Muhammad was a false prophet or that he was not the prophet or messenger of Allah/God.

"It's impossible for me to believe that Arabic translations of the (real) Bible used by Jews & Christians employ the word 'Allah', as you claim. It would be too offensive and loathsome for them to have that in their Bibles."

Clearly, it is loathsome for you. But you are projecting your own feelings to these Arab Jews and Arab Christians. It is no more loathsome for them to employ "Allah" in their Holy Scriptures as it is for us, English-speaking people, to employ "God" in our Holy Scriptures.