Geraldo: Baltimore jihad bomber was "seduced" and entrapped by the FBI

The facts, of course, are otherwise:

"An affidavit filed in support of the criminal complaint alleges that on September 29, 2010, Martinez publicly posted on his Facebook account a statement calling for violence to stop the oppression of Muslims, and that on Oct. 1, 2010, he publicly posted a message stating that he hates any person who opposes Allah and his prophet," a Justice department statement said. [...]

"Martinez wrote that he wanted to go to Pakistan or Afghanistan, that it was his dream to be among the ranks of the mujahideen, and that he hoped Allah would open a door for him because all he thinks about is jihad. The CS provided copies of the communications to the FBI," the department said.

Seduced!

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Geraldo has always been a bum...

I saw that the other night.

Like so many other 'journalists', the guy has no clue about Islam or, apparently, police investigative tactics.

C'mon, man, Martinez converted to 'Muslim'?

Clown.

It is always the kaffir's fault, doncha know?
muslims can only be victims.

Sheesh.
This is so annoying. When will muslims grow up and take responsibility for the violence that their religious texts generate?
The FBI didn't make him write those things on his facebook page. He wrote them himself. But now in the interest of waging a legal jihad against America, muslim groups will point a finger at FBI for 'seducing' him.

And it was the FBI that sneaked all that stuff about jihad into Al Qur'an, too. Right?

Geraldo: the leading agitator in the 1980's Satanic Panic nonsense that ruined many lives. This is when he wasn't opening Al Capone's "vault" or getting hit with a chair by a neo-nazi while blazing the trail for the Jerry Springer Show.

Is it any wonder that he is completely clueless on Islam and blindly making idiotic pronouncements and claims? He's only on the air because he's a famous face. He has nothing to say and no opinion worth listening to.

Just a naive kid....21 years old but still just a kid. I guess 26 is now the new age for becoming an adult. In fact, we're all just naive retards according to the government. No one seems capable of explaining away the fact that this kid followed through on the plans. I couldn't care less about the FBI tactics. If he didn't want to do this before the FBI showed up then he never would have. There is no way the FBI could encourage someone who didn't have these beliefs to do the act...PERIOD.

A 21 year-old kid. A gullible youngster. That is what Rivera calls moslem convert Martinez, who has legally been a man for three years. How much do you want to bet that Martinez does not have a father figure in his life? I remember when Rivera was a beat reporter for a local New York tv station. He was a douche bag then. Apparently he hasn't changed. No more Al Capone safes around, so Geraldo is defending hispanic moslem converts. Sheesh!

Im glad I cancelled my subscription to fox a few months ago. Garbage like this is becoming the norm for fox, they are no different or better than the msm.

Geraldo always defends illegal mexicans. He and o'reiily are tools, bigtime.

Ah! Blessed youth in springtime! Always on a young man's mind are innocent thoughts of violent Jihad.

Oh, those mean FBI agents, entrapping these poor innocent youths. Why, I'm sure most Americans, in their youthful indescretion, could have been easily talked into killing US soldiers. It's just like listening to rock music, drinking a beer underage, or driving over the speed limit. Won't someone stop harassing those poor Muslim youth who only had a perfectly natural and normal youthful desire to murder their fellow citizens!!

Khushi said:
Sheesh.
This is so annoying. When will muslims grow up and take responsibility for the violence that their religious texts generate?

They do they just aren't going to tell you that. By performing Jihad they are taking responsibility.

All joking aside, there's an old Russian proverb that says "I hope I never live through all the things that I could get used to.".

In some respects, I think there's definitely the danger for our culture in general where we'll be like the lobster that's put into cold water, and the heat is turned up so gradually it doesn't notice it until it's too late. Once it gets to the point that the MSM can no longer deny that Muslims are committing these atrocities way out of proportion to their numbers, THEN the politically correct message that will be sent is that "this is natural and understandable for Muslims to act like this, we can't judge them too harshly, and our only option is to regretfully accept this as the new "normal".

So according fools like Geraldo, instead of sting operations proactively preventing innocents from being slaughtered for Allah the FBI should just wait for such angry dupes for Islam to find real terrorists who will take advantage of them and supply them with real bombs. Your family may be blown to bits but I guess you're suppose to console yourself that at least there was no entrapment of some poor naive Muslim.

IMO while I don't believe the FBI was legally entrapping anyone - they have legal advisers and anyway a jury can decide - laws should be made to allow entrapment just for the special case of preventing terrorists acts. It's one thing to entice a man to crime for his personal gain, it's wholly another to preclude a would be terrorist from connecting with terrorists who will help him kill many. The first is rightly illegal, the latter IMO is acting responsibly. This is not a cricket game, we are playing for our lives.

It makes me very angry when I hear such people as this "Geraldo" (I'm writing from UK). They hate the country that has poured blessings upon them.
Traitors!
Judases!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that in this and the other recent "sting," the FBI waited until the perpetrators actually dialled the cellphone number that was intended to detonate the bomb before they swooped in for the arrest.

They still had one last chance to back out, yet they both dialled the number. Seems pretty clearcut to me, irrespective of whether or not they were "seduced."

Ima

So the FBI seduced this guy? So the FBI is looking for muslims to set up and entrap them? Geraldo is obviously sympathizing with this guy because he's hispanic. If he had carried out his mission successfully I wonder what Geraldo's theory would be. Geraldo is a tool that should be locked up in the shed.

Unbelievable.

There was entrapment:
not by the FBI,
but by Islam.

Does Geraldo also say that 1.2 billion Muslims were entrapped by Mohammad?

He's just another one of those "it's all about MY PEOPLE " idiots. I'm sure Fox just keeps him around for comic relief, but he's now lurching into the "irritating" category.

Poor dummy. Thinking all his Prayers(5 times a day minimum)were all coming true. In all his (former) wildest dreams could he be so blessed as to have Jihad come so easy. Oh-so pleased that mayhem will deliver the life of wanton luxury he so believes is his righteous due.

Ones righteous due has a way of making strange bunk-mates.

Gerry Rivers (aka Geraldo Rivera) was the laughing stock of the world after his "Al Capone's Vault" farce. His film-crew should've stuffed his sorry ass in there & bricked back over it--now THAT would've been a story...

From the article:

"Martinez publicly posted on his Facebook account a statement calling for violence to stop the oppression of Muslims, and that on Oct. 1, 2010, he publicly posted a message stating that he hates any person who opposes Allah and his prophet".

'Oppression'.

Here, for the benefit of anyone new to this site and this subject, is the link to a handy article by an ex-Muslim that spells out the special Islamspeak meaning of "oppression".

http://www.islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/IslamOppressed.htm

When is Islam Oppressed? - by Abul Kasem
20 Nov, 2005

"...Islam is grossly offended/oppressed by any un-Islamic moves of the infidels/not-so-good Muslims (like the Islamic Paradises I listed above).

"This is simply because these Islamists audaciously believe that Islam is the only religion in which each and every person on this planet must be subjected to by hook or by crook - using terror, force and slaughter, if need be."...

"The words, 'waging war', in the above verse [Kasem has just cited Quran 5: 33] has very little to do with real combat (like Iraq, Afghanistan).

"*Any* action, activity, remark, gesture, word/s, sound, utterance, look, manner, habit, conduct, style and so on, which are not in conformity with Islamic precepts are considered as blasphemous or 'waging war'." {Which is what our Mohammedan meant when he referred to "any person who opposes Allah and his prophet". Every non-Muslim who obstinately refuses to convert to Islam or to become a dhimmi, is by that very act 'opposing' 'allah and his prophet'. - dda}...

"Below, I have listed a few innocuous activities, manners, social customs, traditions and the daily way of life, which the Kafirs blithely take for granted but which are extremely un-Islamic.

"According to Islamic morals, customs and laws, these offensive activities/practices might be construed as oppressive to Islam and, therefore, they are legitimate targets for eradication, or they must be replaced by Islamic practices or Islamic purification".... (And so it goes on - do please read it, if you haven't before, it's brilliant).

Now here is Christopher Hitchens, the day after the London jihad bombings of 2005, summing up the 'grievances' of the jihadists, the sharia-pushers:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2005/07/08/we-cannot-surrender-115875-15713152/

"We know very well what the "grievances" of the jihadists are.

"The grievance of seeing unveiled women.

"The grievance of the existence, not of the State of Israel, but of the Jewish people.

"The grievance of the heresy of democracy, which impedes the imposition of sharia law.

"The grievance of a work of fiction written by an Indian living in London.

"The grievance of the existence of black African Muslim farmers, who won't abandon lands in Darfur.

"The grievance of the existence of homosexuals.

"The grievance of music, and of most representational art.

"The grievance of the existence of Hinduism.

"The grievance of East Timor's liberation from Indonesian rule.

"All of these have been proclaimed as a licence to kill infidels or apostates, or anyone who just gets in the way."...

"The grievances I listed above are unappeasable, one of many reasons why the jihadists will lose.

"They demand the impossible - the cessation of all life in favour of prostration before a totalitarian vision."

Heraldo is pro-illegal immigration. Any surprise he is pro-Jihad too?

Just a naive kid....21 years old but still just a kid. I guess 26 is now the new age for becoming an adult.

For far too many people, we're still waiting for them to become adults at 66 years old.

Notice how absolutely sure he is that America, vis a vis the FBI, is guilty of yet another wrong (entrapment), even though all the evidence is not yet available? But if he changed his mind and condemned this bastard jihadist he'd still let Islam off the hook because he, no doubt, believes "Islam is a religion of peace."

Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, “When a Muslim commits adultery he is not a muslim when he is doing it; when a Muslim drinks alcohol he is not a Muslim when he is drinking; when a Muslim steals he is not a Muslim when he is stealing.” That's the Muslim scam: It's impossible for Muslims to committ crimes!

And it's impossible for liberals to love the America. America-hatred is in their genes:

10/28/10, NBC: A joint UCSD/Harvard research project reveals the presence of a “Liberal Gene.”


Geraldo has been seduced and entrapped by the left wing loons. This moron needs to just.....go away. I turn the channel everytime this goofball shows up on the T.V. How anyone can even believe in his BS is beyond me. I'd watch MSNBC before watching Geraldo because you get the same results............both end with just shaking your head and then a laugh in pitty.

Who is this Geraldo Rivera? An entertainer? Does he deserve any airtime?

Are you struggling to make it in society young man? are you angry at society for your short comings and failures? Has society been unjust towards you. Are you essentially pissed off at the wrongs perpetrated by society at large for your predicament?
You are not alone! come join the forces of allah, submit with us , find kindred spirits (inflamed psyches) and comarariety and maybe even a chaste musalmina just for you , come join and belong! , we are on your side ,we will fight our oppressors as brothers side by side, the enemies of allah. Turning the other cheek is for sissies, jihad is the way , the truth and the glory.

islam like no other religion taps into the anger and frustrations felt especially by the gullible, semi-literate individuals who have ascribed societal blame for their individual and historical grievances, jails, ghettos, sidelined anti-social loners. It's been their mo in the states for a while, great recruitment tool, if you are a fool.

Cortez would have known how to deal with this idiot.

This is so annoying. When will muslims grow up and take responsibility for the violence that their religious texts generate?

Not before we ditch political correctness and stop kowtowing to them.

Ima Freeman wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that in this and the other recent "sting," the FBI waited until the perpetrators actually dialled the cellphone number that was intended to detonate the bomb before they swooped in for the arrest.

They still had one last chance to back out, yet they both dialled the number. Seems pretty clearcut to me, irrespective of whether or not they were "seduced."
.......................

Very true, Ima. In fact, in both this case and the Portland tree lighting ceremony bomb plot, FBI agents earnestly asked the would-be Jihadist over and over again if they were sure they wanted to go ahead with the bomb plots, and if they realized the human toll of what they were planning.

In both cases, the Jihadists angrily pushed aside all doubts, and asserted that, far from being disturbed by the potential death and destruction, that they wanted to cause as much as possible.

There was no balking at the last minute for either of them. They *both* hit the button, and both believed they were actually setting off the bombs.

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