All dhimmitude ultimately amounts to is a protection racket claiming divine sanction. It is protection from the people who style themselves "protectors," because the alternatives to "protection" are so ugly. The options set forth for unbelievers in Qur'an 9:29 are conversion, warfare, or subjugation as dhimmis, accepted with "willing submission."
Thus, in addition to rejecting obvious, fox-guarding-henhouse illogic of accepting the "protection" of the Islamic Defender Front, the churches (whether they are fully aware of it or not) are also declining to buy into the Islamic paradigm and its three options, wisely choosing "none of the above."
"Indonesian Christians say no to Christmas protection by Muslim radicals," by Mathias Hariyadi for AsiaNews, December 17:
Jakarta (AsiaNews) - Indonesian Christians have criticised the Islamic Defender Front (FPI), an Islamic fundamentalist group, for saying that it would protect Christian communities during Christmas celebrations. "Why would this radical group, which is notorious for its anti-Christian violence, want to be so nice to us? We say no to their offer," a Catholic man from Semarang diocese said.
It would be a publicity stunt and intelligence-gathering mission, all while allowing the FPI to intimidate Christians with their presence.
For background on exactly how brutal and thuggish the FPI is, see past coverage of the Bekasi church attacks (here and here), harassment of Ahmadis, and a frenzied attack on a rally for religious tolerance. Having the FPI in any role as "protector" would not be merely like a fox guarding a henhouse, but more like a pyromaniac fox on steroids and crystal meth guarding a henhouse.
"Let Christians celebrate Christmas in peace. It is their right and all Indonesian citizens should respect that," FPI chief Risieq Shihab said during a meeting with Police Chief Timur Pradopo on Tuesday.
Yet, the peace and protection he has in mind would only be for those Christian communities that respect Indonesia's strict religious laws. For Shihab, his group would stop any Catholic or Protestant celebration held in violation of the law.
Another Christian in Jakarta, anonymous for security reason, said that Shihab's offer and the FPI's close ties to police are sound reasons to be concerned. He pointed out that Chief Pradopo was present at the 12th anniversary of the founding of the FPI.
"The extremists of the FPI want to be recognised by other parties, whilst the police uses the group (which claims thousands of members) to improve its reputation with the population," the source said.
Fr Benny Susetyo Pr, from the Indonesian Bishops of Conference's Interfaith Commission, explained that it was rare for Catholics to organise security details at Christmas time. In fact, he was quite surprised by the FPI statement.
In Indonesia, each parish organises Christmas activities in cooperation with local authorities. In addition, any involvement of Muslim groups has to be examined with members of the Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), a moderate Muslim group involved in interfaith dialogue.
Andreas Yewangoe, chairman of the Synod of Christian Protestant Churches, said that the FPI did not issue any official statement in regards to security measures. Even if it had, very few Christians would actually like to see it present during Christmas celebrations, he said.
For the past seven years, the FPI accumulated a track record of violent attacks against Catholic and Protestant communities. The recent episodes of intolerance in Bandung (West Java) are evidence of that. On this occasion, Muslim extremists destroyed two house churches and five homes belonging to local Christians.
So the Mafia protection racket has it's roots in Mohammad's jizya racket.
Mohammed sleeps wid da fishes!
Is there any way we can get arms and ammunition to our Christian brothers and sisters in Indonesia?
My, my, aren't the plantation "help" gettin' uppity these days.
Jakarta (AsiaNews) - Indonesian Christians have criticised the Islamic Defender Front (FPI), an Islamic fundamentalist group, for saying that it would protect Christian communities during Christmas celebrations. "Why would this radical group, which is notorious for its anti-Christian violence, want to be so nice to us? We say no to their offer," a Catholic man from Semarang diocese said.
It would be a publicity stunt and intelligence-gathering mission, all while allowing the FPI to intimidate Christians with their presence.
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It would, I fear, be even worse than this. My guess is that the Islamic Defender Front would indeed likely "protect" Christians this Christmas, but then would in short order find some trumped-up point that the Christians had supposedly violated the protection pact, and attack the Christians *themselves*.
The Indonesian Christians are not just wise, but very brave indeed. After all, Islam taught its followers to regard lying as normal and as a weapon of evil jihad to deceive us infidels as if we're fools! Just like the creator of Islam, the Arabic Pedophile creator of Islam, Mohammed, who lied "peace be upon you" and that he was a ‘prophet’ whilst raping children and women including Jewish slaves, whose husbands, brothers and fathers were beheaded in the first systematic racial (Mohammed was the first one to SYSTEMATICALLY racialize the Jews as a race ,as different from the Arab race, to justify the Jews’ mass-murder) Genocide of the Jews, in order to create supremacist and savage Nazi-like Arabic empire!
I know of one church in a Muslim Street in Denmark whose security is now in the hands of two Muslims (2008) to prevent vandalism and harassment against churchgoers during and outside of services, the main incident probably when the (female) vicar was beaten up.
The same church in 2009 arranged a Ramadan dinner for tolerance, respect and love between religions.
So the Church would tolerate Nazism if Hitler claimed "Nazism is 'peace'-loving, ye all!"?! Our Christian God, Lord Jesus Christ taught us that "Love must be completely sincere. Hate what is evil, hold on to what is good" (Rom 12:9).
I suggest the Church read up on the truths of how Islam is created by the Arabic Mohammed, to justify evilness, including beastly sexual lust and violence, right from the beginning, such as Mohammed’s own child-‘bride’ was only 6 years old, Aisha – the Pedophile rapist Mohammed was 50 and such as the 17 year old beautiful Jewish Saffiya, who was forced to marry 57 year old Mohammed right after Saffiya’s husband, wealthy tribe leader father & uncle were beheaded after being tortured with all the other Jewish men in Khaibar - the last Jewish tribe mass murdered in order to create Nazi-like supremacist, racist and savage Arabian kingdom! See - Sharia Law for the Non-Muslim
Sunday, 07 November 2010 11:54 Bill Warner
"....In Medina, Mohammed sat all day long beside his 12-year-old wife while they watched as the heads of 800 Jews were removed by sword.[1] Their heads were cut off because they had said that Mohammed was not the prophet of Allah. ...Islam is 14% Allah and 86% Mohammed...." (At - http://europenews.dk/en: In - http://www.rightsidenews.com/2010110712066/us/islam-in-america/sharia-law-for-the-non-muslim.html )
Nice. These Jihadists are so embolded by the devil's brew of the Koran. Lets take back history and consign them to the dustbin.
Historic Israel National Radio Interview "Revising the Revisionists and Conquerers of the Ancient World" http://www.marcrubin.com/judean-eve.ivnu See the iceberg under the water.
Steffen Larsen wrote:
I know of one church in a Muslim Street in Denmark whose security is now in the hands of two Muslims (2008) to prevent vandalism and harassment against churchgoers during and outside of services...
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Madness, Steffen.
Exactly graven. As soon as they find the smallest excuse they will use it as a pretext to attack the Christians.
But but but.... didn't Barry Soetoro make sure on his last trip that the adjoining mosque offers free parking for the Christians on their holy day?
http://www.news-worthy.info/obama-praises-toleration-as-indonesian-churches-burn/3355/