PA daily demonizes Israel as "a country whose aim is destruction and ruin of humanity"

But deep down, they really, really want peace. "PA daily demonizes Israel as 'a country whose aim is destruction and ruin of humanity,'" by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik for Palestinian Media Watch, December 28:

The PA continues to demonize and incite hatred of Israel. An article in the official PA daily described Israel this way:

Israel is a country -
"whose aim is destruction and ruin of humanity"
"which disseminates destruction, ruin and weapons in the world"
"which acts to kill nations, to threaten them and to occupy their land"
"which acts to disseminate the culture of hatred and racism among human beings"

This article appeared in the sports section of the official PA daily in an article about Qatar being chosen as host of World Cup in 2022. Israel was presented as the example of evil in the world in contrast to Qatar's excellence.

The article also denied the legitimacy of Israel's existence when it labeled the Israeli Carmel Mountains "the occupied Palestinian Carmel Mountains."...

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All of these Muslim papers and other media sources, expounding lie upon lie, are the contemporary version of Hitler's Völkischer Beobachter [the People's Observer], the daily of the Nazi party. Renowned for its vicious and rabid Jew-hatred it was used to whip the masses into frenzies.

These people are becoming so tiresome. The same talking points over and over again. Can't they think of something else? Some new conspiracy theory like the Mossad being behind the shark killings in Egypt. That was fun.

happy holidays to eveyone!
PA and the Iranian government both say this type of fucking shit for domestic consumtion. the only difference is we don't buy it and Palastinins buy this shit and that is why they are where they are.
M

"PA daily demonizes Israel as 'a country whose aim is destruction and ruin of humanity'"
.........................

More projection...

A very minor correction to the text above:

Islam is a cult -

"whose aim is destruction and ruin of humanity"
"which disseminates destruction, ruin and weapons in the world"
"which acts to kill nations, to threaten them and to occupy their land"
"which acts to disseminate the culture of hatred and racism among human beings"

Now, would we all agree that is far more accurate?

Boy I'd like to find that essay Fitzgerald did some time ago on the facts of how Israel came into being. I looked in his archives but couldn't find it.

Yup.

That's exactly what *I* thought.

Projection. Un caso clinico.

Every single monstrous accusation they hurl against Israel is simple fact if applied to themselves (that is, to the Islam-intoxicated Ummah, considered as a human gestalt).

" a country whose aim is destruction and ruin of humanity.

(Ludicrous, as a decription of Israel; but as a description of Mohammed's World Domination Program it's perfectly true - as John Quincy Adams said, "he [Muhammad] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind" and "In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar [i.e., Muhammad], the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, **and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth** {my emphasis - dda} ).

"That is the difference between a country (Qatar) that strives for progress and for human development (Qatar?? QATAR? ROFLMAO - dda)

"and a country (Israel) which disseminates destruction, ruin and weapons in the world (gee, as a description of Israel this is nonsensical, but it *is* a pretty damn good description of the jihad gang bosses all over the Ummah - dda);

"between a country which acts to build a human generation (Is he talking about Qatar? QATAR?? ROFLMAO),

"and a country which acts to kill nations, to threaten them and to occupy their land

(hey, another pretty good description of the Ummah, eh? 1400 years in the business of threatening, occupying and killing nations, leaving a trail of ecological, social, moral and political ruin from North Africa all the way across to the East Indies, and from the Caucasus to equatorial Africa - dda)

between a country which acts to disseminate the culture of love and peace (he's talking about Qatar?? And the 'culture of love and peace' - I assume he means the Religion of Murder, Islam....ROFMLAO. I'm surprised the sky didn't turn black, or the earth split and swallow him up, at the magnitude of the lie - dda)

and a country which acts to disseminate the culture of hatred and racism among human beings."

(Let's see - that last bit is absolute nonsense if taken as applying to Israel, but it's bang on if we apply it to the Islamic Ummah, which acts to disseminate a culture of hatred among human beings, and to promote and enact Arab contempt for and domination over all non-Arabs. It is Islam that Wafa Sultan has identified as worshipping "A God Who Hates", and Muslims whom Brigitte Gabriel exposes in her book "Because They Hate").

Here's just *one* jihadwatch article, from 2005, on the topic of human trafficking. It identifies Qatar as one of the worst offenders.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/06/us-criticizes-gulf-allies-on-trafficking.html

I quote:

"The United States criticized four Gulf Arab allies as some of the world's worst offenders in permitting human trafficking Friday in a rebuke Washington hopes will promote improved human rights in the Middle East.

"The State Department downgraded Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates to the lowest level of compliance in the report,

"which evaluates countries' efforts in fighting the trafficking of thousands of people forced into servitude or the sex trade every year.

"Victims in the region were mainly domestic servants and laborers but also included boy camel jockeys, according to the report."

Another article, on Qatar contributing financially to Al Qaeda:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/05/qatar-buys-off-al-qaeda.html

What is this thing I keep hearing about hereabouts called "PC - MC"? Maybe it's a mentality which wants to fight the current political war according to the strategies which pertained to the previous war. That is, fighting some war considered to be going on today, as though you are fighting the war of yesterday. In this case the war of yesterday was WWII, and the main evil protagonist was a nationalistic and genocidal Germany. So, maybe this "PC -MC' kind of mentality proceeds (mistakenly) to fight today's political battles while imagining they are fighting against German nationalism and German genocide -- except they have generalized it to be any nationalism and any genocide (but it still is yesterday's war being stupidly refought within today's world situation). Does this make sense?

To echo dda, gravenimage, my thoughts exactly when I read this article. A more classic case of projection would be hard to find. And you'd have to be a fool or deeply ignorant about Islam (which by now is evidence of significant foolishness for anyone living in a free country) not to see this.

Dear dda - As usual, an excellent post. Keep at it. A good definition of Islam is that it's a viciously anti-human pseudoreligion, at its very core. If Islam is against something, it's sure to be something good about human beings. Recall the Bible "And God saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good."

Will the Israeli team even be allowed to play in qatar?

There you go shew.

The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over and expecting different results.

Islam = Insanity

Washington hopes will promote improved human rights in the Middle East...

Human rights in Dar al-Islam. Now that's a contradiction in terms.

*** 33:60 ***

Truly, if the Infidels stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy - a fierce slaughter - murdered, a horrible murdering.

I think it's starting to sink in among the Infidels that maybe the reason the so-called Middle East "peace" process has been going on for a lifetime now is the Moslems. At first most figured it was the Jews being typically tough in negotiations, but not so much now.

(Note: the reason Jews are so tough in biz negotiations is that they fully intend to honor the deal being negotiated, unlike Moslems, who are infamous worldwide for being dangerous to deal with. 33:21)

to Miriam Rove - I often show my 13 year old articles on this site and I would really appreciate it if you could refrain from using foul language. And I don't like it either.

The PA daily may be right about Israel's aims and goals in theory, but if so, Israel is abysmally inept in putting them into practice. What nations has Israel "occupied" or "killed"? Where has it spread all this "destruction and ruin"? Maybe in the Sudan? No, that was done by Moslems. How about in Pakistan? No, that was by Moslems, too. How about in New York, Madrid, Bombay, Madrid? No, no, no, all those were done by Moslems, too. Afghanistan, the Phillipines, Somalia, Algeria? Sorry, Moslems in every case.
Probably half the countries of the world have suffered a Moslem attack in the last 20 years. The only "attacks" Israel has made have been in retaliation to Moslem terrorist attacks on Israel itself, and have been confined to Israel and maybe a five-mile wide periphery around its borders.
So who knows? Maybe Israel does have big aspirations. But so far it's done precious little to carry them out.

"A very minor correction to the text above:

Islam is a cult -

"whose aim is destruction and ruin of humanity"
"which disseminates destruction, ruin and weapons in the world"
"which acts to kill nations, to threaten them and to occupy their land"
"which acts to disseminate the culture of hatred and racism among human beings"

Now, would we all agree that is far more accurate?"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Indeed, Boneshack! ...islam is an EVIL death cult.

..."the occupied Palestinian Carmel Mountains" huh?...

well, dear, dear, editor of al-hayat al-jadida,

so, this is 'the new life' eh?
you might as well start writing a few boilerplate articles about the following locations (since this is how it will be, and remain):

*occupied* mediteranean coast line from rosh hanikrah all the way to rafiach
*occupied* judea and samaria
*occupied* jerusalem

i think you shall be able to use and reuse them for a LONG time...

I concur. I can understand a four-letter word here or there, but habitual use invites deletions.

Although many at Jihad Watch many not be aware of it, these lies are, unfortunately, having much traction among (are believed by) many politically "Liberal" people in the United States and other Western countries - especially by very many members of the young (college-age, etc) generations in Western countries - who are being indoctrinated, by academics, and Islamic-Supremacist activist groups (Muslim Brotherhood front-groups, etc.), and Western anti-Israeli activist groups, in colleges and universities in Western countries, and by the members of the media of Western countries, including, most influentially, by delusional and deranged, severe-Stockholm-Syndrome-affected, Jewish academics, and Jewish political activists, and Jewish journalists, with lies that vilify Israel and that obfuscate the factual, currently approximately 90-year-old history of, and current reality of, the Islamic-Supremacist, and colluding Western, racist war against Israel, and that obfuscate the nature of, and the scope of, and even the existence of, the genocidally anti-Jewish modern Islamic Supremacist political movement, and this indoctrination, together with culturally engrained, normal, Western anti-Jewish bigotry, is facilitating the belief in, and is incorporating, the lies that are being disseminated by the organizations of the genocidally anti-Jewish modern Islamic Supremacist political movement, such as Fatah-PLO-PalestinianAuthority, and Hamas, and the Islamic Supremacist, ideologically apocalyptic, regime in Iran.

Just as what happened in Western societies in the 1930's is what is happening today, but what is happening today is on a much larger scale and is more insidious and more perverse.

The following articles explain, and present the remedy to, such mass-hysteria.

"Memetics and the Viral Spread of Antisemitism Through 'Coded Images' in Political Cartoons", talk by Yaakov Kirschen, author of the political cartoon Dry Bones; The talk was given at The Yale Initiative for the Interdisciplinary Study of Antisemitism (YIISA), Yale University, New Haven, CT, on October 21, 2010; (Video)
http://vimeo.com/17883790

“'If I were not a Jew, my hair would stand on end with fear'”, by Matthias Küntzel
http://www.matthiaskuentzel.de/contents/if-i-were-not-a-jew-my-hair-would-stand-on-end-with-fear

"The Anti-Semite’s Pointed Finger", by Ruth R. Wisse, November 2010
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/the-anti-semite-s-pointed-finger-15563?page=all

Excerpts from "The Anti-Semite’s Pointed Finger", by Ruth R. Wisse

Explanation of the nature of the situation of anti-Jewish (anti-Israeli) bigoted-prejudice/malicious-political-utility/politically-"Liberal"-mass-hysteria:

Today, by any reasonable standard, Israel remains a beacon of liberalism in an illiberal region. Moreover, on any genuine political compass, Jews and Israel are the true north of liberalism, not simply on account of the way they are constituted as a people, but also because of the anti-liberal forces ranged against them. Arab opponents of Israel themselves oppose liberal democracy and fear its freedoms. Anti-Semitism in all its forms — Christian and Muslim, secular and religious, totalitarian and authoritarian — is an anti-liberal movement, one that explicitly defines liberalism as a Jewish conspiracy. One would therefore expect the alignment of Israel with liberalism and anti-Zionism with anti-liberalism to win Israel the defense of all liberals. The standard-bearers of muscular liberalism, from the 19th-century novelist George Eliot to the late senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson, have done just that, using defense of Jewish rights as a touchstone of liberal principles.

Yet here is the paradox: the fiercer anti-Semitism grows, the more it forces a choice on liberals. The choice is between protecting the Jews and protecting the orthodox liberal belief in rational compromise, world peace, “getting to yes,” and all the rest. Protecting the Jews requires confronting hostility that is not subject to rational persuasion, does not obey the liberal version of the rule of law, does not abide by liberal ideas of fairness, and does not extend peace and goodwill to others. To side with Israel, therefore, leaves one exposed to the same hostility that assails the Jews — an uncomfortable position for individuals and governments alike. The dictates of self-interest persuade some to ignore aggression that presumably doesn’t concern them, and then to justify their callousness by holding Jews responsible for the aggression against them. Some Jews try to demonstrate their own innocence by dissociating themselves from those of their fellow Jews who are under attack.

The politics of anti-Semitism strikes again: blaming the Jews succeeds by persuading liberals that it is aimed only at the “culpable” Jews. By casting these Jews as aggressors, it invites liberals to join the attack on them, on behalf of the Jews’ alleged victims. It congratulates liberals for joining the anti-liberal side by persuading them that they stand with the weak against the strong.

Summary overview of the situation of anti-Jewish (anti-Israeli) bigoted-prejudice/malicious-political-utility/politically-"Liberal"-mass-hysteria:

I have tried to show (a) that anti-Semitism cannot be arrested by any remedial action of the Jews; (b) that there are harmful consequences for pretending that concessions from Jews can stop the aggression against them; and (c) that anti-Semitism forces a choice between protection of the Jews and, under the guise of liberalism, complicity with their enemies. And though anti-Semitism is often compared to cancer, there is no comparable effort to finding a cure. The reason seems plain: where the carriers of an illness are also its casualties, they and their well-wishers have incentives to tackle the problem. But the carriers of anti-Semitism do not experience themselves as its apparent victims. At-risk Jews cannot halt the malignancy, because they are not its carriers. And its carriers, the anti-Semites, will not seek a cure, because they don’t recognize its harm to them. Not until enlightened Arabs recognize that they, not the Jews, are its ultimate casualties will this political threat be contained.

Remedy to anti-Jewish (anti-Israeli) bigoted-prejudice/malicious-political-utility/politically-"Liberal"-mass-hysteria:

To say that anti-Semitism persists and succeeds does not mean that anti-Semitism is politically invulnerable. Tactics in fighting anti-Semitism may and should vary. But what is required strategically, from Jews as from all decent human beings, is no more than what justice and truth and genuine liberalism demand: namely, to reject vigorously the role of defendant at the bar of world opinion and to instigate political, diplomatic, moral, and intellectual countersuits on every front.

ORIANA FALLACI - ON ANTISEMITISM-I find it shameful\SULL'ANTISEMITISMO-Io trovo vergognoso (pt.1/2); (Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9Dl5YEy3o

ORIANA FALLACI - ON ANTISEMITISM-I find it shameful\SULL'ANTISEMITISMO-Io trovo vergognoso (pt.2/2); (Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anTPuAQ1oUU

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The reality of Israeli life and culture and the reality of the 'Palestinian movement'
http://www.youtube.com/danielbielak

Just tell miriam to "stop it." She'll eventually get what you mean.

I'm sure that if Israel become an Islamic country that its contribution to humanity would be celebrated by the PA, assuming the Muslims in Israel didn't toss the PA officials off of tall buildings, Hamas style.

Amen, Marisol. Some posters use gutter-speak just to contaminate the site. Imagine that.

What have the Palestinians done better for civilization than Israel has?....

"So, maybe this "PC -MC' kind of mentality proceeds (mistakenly) to fight today's political battles while imagining they are fighting against German nationalism and German genocide -- except they have generalized it to be any nationalism and any genocide (but it still is yesterday's war being stupidly refought within today's world situation). Does this make sense?"

Definitely. Though yesterday's war could have provided some very good lessons if people had drawn the right conclusions. For instance, Margaret Tatcher said it isn't nationalism that causes war, but appeasing dictators - that has remained very valid for the current situation as well. But the left had drawn the wrong conclusions, so now the west is appeasing dictators again, and at the same time the radical dissolution of nationalism had brought tens of millions of Muslims into Europe.

Are you an American D & G?

Come on, don't be so harsh on Miriam Rove. You can tell her nicely that this website has certain language restrictions. Many websites don't, so how could she know? And the language she used was a very appropriate and understandable response in my view. Did you ever see the f$%$ing s%$t on Iranian TV? According to them even Harry Potter is a Zionist conspiracy. The regime is totally deranged. Poor Iranians, they are its greatest victims.

Re:

"So, maybe this "PC -MC' kind of mentality proceeds (mistakenly) to fight today's political battles while imagining they are fighting against German nationalism and German genocide -- except they have generalized it to be any nationalism and any genocide (but it still is yesterday's war being stupidly refought within today's world situation). Does this make sense?"

Please see the following, from my previous comment, that Ruth R. Wisse wrote:

Yet here is the paradox: the fiercer anti-Semitism grows, the more it forces a choice on liberals. The choice is between protecting the Jews and protecting the orthodox liberal belief in rational compromise, world peace, “getting to yes,” and all the rest. Protecting the Jews requires confronting hostility that is not subject to rational persuasion, does not obey the liberal version of the rule of law, does not abide by liberal ideas of fairness, and does not extend peace and goodwill to others. To side with Israel, therefore, leaves one exposed to the same hostility that assails the Jews — an uncomfortable position for individuals and governments alike. The dictates of self-interest persuade some to ignore aggression that presumably doesn’t concern them, and then to justify their callousness by holding Jews responsible for the aggression against them. Some Jews try to demonstrate their own innocence by dissociating themselves from those of their fellow Jews who are under attack.

The politics of anti-Semitism strikes again: blaming the Jews succeeds by persuading liberals that it is aimed only at the “culpable” Jews. By casting these Jews as aggressors, it invites liberals to join the attack on them, on behalf of the Jews’ alleged victims. It congratulates liberals for joining the anti-liberal side by persuading them that they stand with the weak against the strong.

Of course the Muslims must hate the Jews...

Their evil, criminal religion teaches and tells them such and that they must do so...

I am an ex-Muslim.

This is just what I was thinking, all that was said about Israel was an exact description of the PA. Islam and the terrorist organisations like Hamas and Hezbollah etc.have this ideology of destruction and mayhem!
There is no-one with more racist hatred than the cult of Islam what with their incessant hatred of the Jews, Christians and anyone who is not a believer in muhammed and their moon-god allah!
It is very sick and hateful what followers of this evil cult become, the koran is an anthology of rantings of a madman!

The Muslims and their apologists will now scramble about desperately pointing in vain to passages from the koran claiming that the muslims do indeed respect the Jews while conveniently overlooking the real fact of the matter...

Such is the nature of muhammad's convoluted cult of islam...

But "Are you an American D & G?"

I'm an Israeli, but I'm happy someone could mistake me for an American considering my many English errors :-)

O.T. The history of racialism as an ideology is off topic. I did some reading up on it a good number of years ago and felt I understood enough of what it is for practical purposes.The scholarship led me to conclude that racialism as we've seen it in the 20th century did not exist prior to the early 1800s. Prior to that time there was no such thing. But there was what's known as nationalism existing as a real thing going back several hundred years previous.
Nationalism was an ideology, with origins in the late middle ages, which developed in tandem with the rise of the bourgeoisie in Europe. Racialism is a completely separate thing,with origins in the early 1800s, and was developed as a quasi-political ideology by sections of the nobility in Europe. Racialism was invented as a class-consciousness for the cosmopolitan noble class. Nationalism was part of the identity of the middle-class, and connected with their political institutions. In a sense, racialism was the nobility's response to nationalism. It was designed to function as the "nationalism" of the politically defeated feudal aristocracy. Pride and loyalty to race was a crypto-patriotism. It was combined with a mystical paganism so as to function as a pseudo-religious reformation.
All nations in Europe had their own "racisms" (not exclusively the Germans). There were even Jewish intellectuals who created their own "Jewish racism" ideology during this time period.
Reference George L. Mosse, The Culture of Western Europe: The Nineteenth and Twentieth Centuries; Chapter iv, Racism.

"You lie."

~Joe Wilson, South Carolina, America

Call it funny or sad, but the first thing that occurred to me after reading the subject headline is "I did not know there was a newspaper called the Pennsylvania Daily."

Your are right: nationalism and racism (the belief that ancestry is more important than culture) are distinct ideologies. But as I understand it, the two became somewhat fused in the period roughly from the second half of the 19th century until the World War. This was partly due to an eagerness to apply Darwinian evolution (with its 19th century imagery of races struggling for survival) to all social problems. Racism invaded every sphere of thought; every human group, including nations and classes, became synonymous with "race" for one theorist or another. Educated Europeans would write about such things as "the inherent obedience of the Teutons" and "the Celtic race's famous hot temper." Nationalism became racist, because a struggle between nations was also a struggle between races.

Of course European Jews weren't immune to Europe's intellectual currents. You can find Zionist writings from this time expounding at length on such charming themes as the comparative merits of the "Jewish racial type" vs. the "Aryan racial type". Some anti-Israel propagandists point to such writings in an attempt to show that Zionism is "racist". But this is totally dishonest: Zionism doesn't draw its validity from any 19th century type racial theory, but from the historical fact of Jewish peoplehood.

What predictable projection on the part of the lunatics but they learned Hitler's tricks quite well: Tell the same lies often enough and they become truth. The liars telling the lies probably believe them too.

This is very off topic, but did anyone see Frank Gaffney on Fox News? He talked about the Center For Security Policies

"SHARIAH: THE THREAT TO AMERICA
AN EXERCISE IN COMPETITIVE ANALYSIS
REPORT OF TEAM ‘B’ II"

Which you can buy from Amazon apparently, but I have a copy on pdf ... anyways.

For the first time that I can think of I have heard someone say on a major media outlet that the support of Sharia is sedition ie: Imam Rauf ala the ground zero mosque. The question was, "could the mosque be built anywhere"? Gaffney responded that Rauf's public belief that America should be Sharia compliant was tantamount to sedition, and that no, he should not be allowed to build a mosque. I've heard sharia is unconstitutional etc, etc but never on a major media outlet, have I heard "sedition", which it in fact is. The fill in for Bill O'Reiley actually agreed. Very interesting.

Progress isn't it grand?

I guess I should mention something about the topic.

As soon as Muslims can live with non-Muslims without outright slaughter and subjugation then Israelis will probably agree to integrate with them. The situation for the "Palestinians" is a byproduct of their own intellectual detritus. Israelis must defend themselves or be subjugated, just like the rest of the non-Muslims of the Middle East. This is what the Muslims are upset about ... some non-Muslims have the audacity to govern themselves in the Middle East.

If you know all why did you continue to press the point?

HWP | December 28, 2010 5:38 PM | Reply
Are you an American D & G?

HWP replied to comment from Doom-and-gloom | December 28, 2010 6:15 PM | Reply
But "Are you an American D & G?"

Doom-and-gloom replied to comment from HWP | December 28, 2010 6:49 PM | Reply
I'm an Israeli, but I'm happy someone could mistake me for an American considering my many English errors :-)

HWP replied to comment from Doom-and-gloom | December 28, 2010 6:57 PM | Reply
"You lie."

~Joe Wilson, South Carolina, America


i am certain that d&g can (and most likely will) speak for herself, however, what i notice here is :
* someone with an agenda
* someone who has already passed judgement and 'to hell with the evidence'
* someone who has a hard time understanding that some people can be VERY fluent in more than one language (do you speak any other language besides english...hwp?)
* someone who does not have the courage to say what he/she means but instead is hiding behind somebody else's spoken words that just so happen to mirror what he/she would have like to say...
* someone who is trying to pose as a 'great one' by adding "america" after south carolina...a feeble attempt to belittle (yes we know where south carolina is...)

am i missing something?
please enlighten me on this one.
if i am wrong i apologize in advance...
but my gut feeling tells me that something is rotten in the state of denmark...

precisely my point....
i decided to give hwp an opportunity to explain himself/herself...
it is interesting, because i read your comment on the obama thread where you reply to saucymugwump... the part where you described you being in the bible belt in the u.s. ... somehow, i was thinking about hwp...

let's wait and see.

Israel is a country -
"whose aim is destruction and ruin of humanity"
"which disseminates destruction, ruin and weapons in the world"
"which acts to kill nations, to threaten them and to occupy their land"
"which acts to disseminate the culture of hatred and racism among human beings"

---- o --------------

Such absurd and false accusations are rather tiresome. Only ignorant, brainwashed, and irrational people could believe such things. And most Muslims in Islamic countries, and probably indeed in Western countries, are such ignorant, brainwashed, and irrational people.

Somehow, non-Muslims ought to provide protection to Muslims that want to leave Islam - and thus, leave behind all the lies, violence, brainwashing, intimidation that are the hallmarks of Islam and its most fanatic Muslim followers.

Who knows how many Muslims would leave Islam if there isn't a death threat attached to their conversion? Generally speaking, for every Muslim that leaves Islam, there is one less ignorant, brainwashed, and irrational human being on earth and for non-Muslims to deal with.

HWP,

You have wrongly accused Doom-and-gloom of lying by her writing that she is Israeli.

I think that you did that because you felt suspicious of Doom-and-gloom defending, on the grounds of ignorance of what are the guideline of what is proper conduct on this site, "miriam rove" for having used obscene language.

From reading the comments, on this site, by Doom-and-gloom, that I have read, I believe that Doom-and-gloom is Israeli and Jewish, and sympathetic and tolerant.

By the way: "miriam rove" has stated, on this site, and on Pajamas Media, that he is male and that he is Iranian and that he is not Muslim (not an adherent of Islam) and that he is opposed to Islam. He also, on Pajamas Media, earlier, wrote several malicious antipathetic racist anti-Jewish, and malicious antipathetic anti-Israeli, comments, but I have noticed that he has stopped doing that and that he has, subsequently, since having stopped doing that, written comments that show that he no longer holds the antipathetic wrong views about, and no longer feels the antipathy toward, Israel that he did, earlier, and I appreciate that, even though I have not seen any comments by him in which he has apologized for his earlier comments.

I sympathize with, and appreciate, Doom-and-gloom's sympathy and tolerance.

I also agree that it is unbeneficial (harmful) to use obscene language, and that it is beneficial to not use obscene language.

OT

Philippine security forces pursue suspected bombers
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 01:42:39 PM

ZAMBOANGA CITY, Philippines (Mindanao Examiner / Dec. 29, 2010) – Security forces were pursuing Wednesday two unidentified men who escaped after leaving behind a mortar bomb near the Sulu provincial capitol building in the southern Philippines, officials said.
http://www.mindanaoexaminer.com/news.php?news_id=20101229004239

and

The Muslim population has grown from 1.65 million to 2.87 million since 2001, say researchers. What does this mean for liberal Britain?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100069830/the-muslim-population-has-grown-from-1-65-million-to-2-87-million-since-2001-say-researchers-what-does-this-mean-for-liberal-britain/

You are a complete bore. Ditto for your choir. Beat it.

HWP,

You have shown the quality of your character.

By the way: I wrote my comment to you before I saw captain nemo's comment to you.

And in response to what I imagine that you would maybe reply to this comment with: No. I'm not a liar.

Beat and shape and better your own character.

doom and gloom has been around for quite some time and lying is not part of the picture I see.
I actually took the "You lie" to refer to d&gs errors in English...I see few..so...
I agree with the majority here that obscene language is best left to liberals...Leftists.
As the anti-jihad types are rarely if ever liberals, the use of obscenities...it's just not that common.
I have on occasion, been so pissed, (sorry) that no words but and expletive would do. Very rarely, but it happens.
I've seen plenty of other posts by long time posters over the years where a vulgarity was necessary to express the contempt, frustration and anger that the death cult of islam generates in the mind of a lover of Freedom and Truth.
I can cast no stones...


No islam...Know Peace.
Know islam...Throw Up!

I've been to ANGER MANAGEMENT.

AI -- you also teamed up with Darby like a dumb-a55 at one time. It did not go unnoticed. Beat it.

HWP,

If you were not merely threatening me by, but were, in fact, telling the truth in, writing that you have been to anger management then I say:

I know what extreme anger feels like.

We all want to be happy and not suffer.

Let's all be cool (kind) to each other.

beat it! ...beat it!

You sound like a broken [Michael Jackson] record.

Yeah. And it's such good advice sometimes!

Daniel ...

This guy needs a swift kick in the butt, not a smooch on the cheek ...

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HWP, maybe it's time for a refresher course in anger management ...no one needs your bullshit. YOU beat it!

The drama really is unbecoming of the mission of this website. Speak your mind about the topic or anything else even remotely worth the keystrokes and aggravation.

Or -- Beat it.

Captain sir, the person still hasn't explained themselves Not only that, it seems it's everyone elses fault. Does that remind you of any particular group of people? Certainly does me......lol

Oh, and they obviously got a D or an F in the anger management course...lolol...

champ,

I think that it's best to ignore comments such as those. I should have done that, and I regret not having done that, after my first comment that I wrote in reply to those comments.

Alarmed PF: you may have had it answered already (I haven't looked at *all* the comments), but in any case, you should find "The Case for Israel" by Alan Dershowitz very useful. I read it cover to cover and keep it handy for reference (right next to my copy of "The Reliance of the Traveller" and the Koran)
Cheers from Hong Kong
Peter F (aka "Meeker")

"PA daily demonizes Israel as 'a country whose aim is destruction and ruin of humanity'"

Unfortunately, that makes them little different from far too many non-Muslim Westerners, for our own good. The oldest hatred is every bit as en vogue today as what it was in the 1930s. We have descended into aiding and abetting the sort of people who spent 11 centuries trying to destroy our way of life before being put in their places from 1683 right up until 1979, and from 1979 onwards see a vulnerable West that is crippled by political correctness, self-hatred, and is reduced to deaperately trying to placate the Jihadis by demonising the Jew and branding critics of Islam as bigots and racists (what a contradiction in terms, and what race is Islam again?), as if that will work. But we know it wont, but the stupid, gullible sub-amoeboid I.Q. Westerner, fuelled by puerile and vicious Jew- and Israel-baiting Der Sturmer propaganda from both Middle Eastern and Western news and media outlets, refuses to realise that, and won't do so until it is far too late. 6,000 years of human history tell us that not only do the meek not inherit the earth, neither do the stupid.

"PA daily demonizes Israel as 'a country whose aim is destruction and ruin of humanity'"

Unfortunately, that makes them little different from far too many non-Muslim Westerners, for our own good. The oldest hatred is every bit as en vogue today as what it was in the 1930s. We have descended into aiding and abetting the sort of people who spent 11 centuries trying to destroy our way of life before being put in their places from 1683 right up until 1979, and from 1979 onwards see a vulnerable West that is crippled by political correctness, self-hatred, and is reduced to desperately trying to placate the devoid-of-humanity Muslim Jihadis by demonising the Jew and branding critics of that inhuman death cult Islam as bigots and racists (what a contradiction in terms, and what race is Islam again?), as if that will work. But we know it wont, but the stupid, gullible sub-amoeboid I.Q. Westerner, fuelled by puerile and vicious Jew- and Israel-baiting Der Sturmer propaganda from both Middle Eastern and Western news and media outlets, refuses to realise that, and won't do so until it is far too late. 6,000 years of human history tell us that not only do the meek not inherit the earth, neither do the stupid.

i am glad that you have confirmed my suspicions.
so!
since all that you are capable of expressing is one short sentence (at best) as we have seen in your posts, i would recommend you read the comment of 'the spirit of 1683' at 2:09 am.
unfortunately there are no pictures and the words might be a little hard to grasp (understand).the last part of the comment i think is custom made for you...
ahm... 'sub' means below, or lower than (in this case)
'amoeboid' is used as an adjective to describe IQ (you following me so far? mr?) it is derived from amoeba, a one cell organism.
as far as 'the vicious and jew- and israel-baiting Der Sturmer propaganda' you should have NO PROBLEM with the terms. you might feel at home...
a sincere word of advise:
read and reread the comment as it really aplies to you, i think, and i really do not think that you are 'meek'.....

i am done with you.

I thought Qatar was a wrist watch until the cretins at Fifa handed them the World Cup. It was only then I realised it was a country. As far as I can see only lizards and jihadists live there - and a handfull of Man United fans, who are shunned by the above.
How are you supposed to play football in 47 degrees, and what about the fans propensity for skulling oceanes of beer. The jihadists frown on that I believe - and what will they do if Israel qualify, seeing as Jews are banned from entering the country.

"6,000 years of human history tell us that not only do the meek not inherit the earth, neither do the stupid."

The Spirit Of 1683 speaks the truth -- and speaks it well.

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Nemo -- Moses also failed anger management.

Sadly and outrageously, the Western pseudo academics and leftist media buy the garbage clothed slightly differently, e.g., "Israeli Apartheid" "Israeli war crimes" "Israeli assault on peace activists (flotilla)" and on and on and on.

Another recent example, CTV News (Toronto)reported on the Christians in Bethlehem having to go through "bureaucratic hurdles" put up by the Israeli's in order to attend the Christmas Mass in the Church of nativity. Almost in the same breath, the reporter stated that Christian population in Bethlehem sharply declined in recent years (as if to suggest Israel was responsible for their population decline.)

once again, to quote the spirit of 1683,

" but the stupid, gullible sub-amoeboid I.Q. Westerner, fuelled by puerile and vicious Jew- and Israel-baiting Der Sturmer propaganda from both Middle Eastern and Western news and media outlets, refuses to realise that, and won't do so until it is far too late. 6,000 years of human history tell us that not only do the meek not inherit the earth, neither do the stupid."

you have just brought forth another excellent example .... so sad to see this sick drama unfold in front of our very eyes.

Hmm.. Interesting thread.. Too bad I went to bed and missed the party where I was the "guest of honor". I don't suppose anyone is still reading here, but just in case, I find it bizarre that someone will doubt my Israeli identity. After all it's not the most convenient or popular identity these days - I know Israelis who hide their identity online, but few who pose as Israelis, and they always do that to defame Israel by posting all kinds of vicious things. Anyway, if it's so important Robert or Marisol can confirm my location by checking my IP.

too bad you missed the 'party' indeed...

:)

Islam is as evil as Nazism; in fact it might have inspired Nazism since Hitler loves Islam! Why is Islam being defended over and over again by the many crazy Western Left?! What's wrong with their brain - can't they see, Islam is the root of such persistent savage evil by its many sociopathic believers, since it was created to justify and legitimize the evil rape and enslavement of children/women including Jewish slaves, and the first systematic racial Genocide in history, of the Jews/non-Muslims, by the Arabic Mohammed & his savage warriors, to create the supremacist,and extremely primitive and savage Nazi-like Arabic Empire. And the Muslim Arabs including the Palestinian Mufti of Jerusalem, Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood founder, Hassan al-banna and the Turkish Ottomans were among or main Socialist Hitler/Nazi’s biggest collaborators or advisers - and they've never been put on trial like the German Nazis. The case should be reopened to prevent the coming Second Nazism i.e Islamic Nazism!

Don't worry.

Every now and again the comments thread here will, for some strange reason, 'explode'.

If you have an hour or two or three to spare sometime, go take a walk through the labyrinth of the jihadwatch archives.

Don't just go back a year or two. Go right back to the early days. Visit Oct-Nov 2003, or have a look at any given month in 2004 or 2005.

It was a wild and woolly place in here at times, when the forum was shaking itself down and working out what kind of thing it wanted to be. Visualise the virtual and verbal equivalent of graffiti, brawls, bouncers, and flying bottles.

There were a couple of occasions when things got so crazy - what with hostile Mohammedtrolls, and other kinds of trolls, and members of the tinfoil hat brigade, and persons who insisted on flogging offtopic hobbyhorses up and down the threads - that Mr Spencer seriously considered not having a comments section, at all. I'm glad he - and, at that stage, Mr Hugh Fitzgerald - chose to persevere, but it was a near thing.

Don't worry.

Every now and again the comments thread here will, for some strange reason, 'explode'.
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This is very true, Dumbledore's Army. I've been here long enough, at this point, to have seen this happen several times.

We stand against an enemy whose aim *truly is* "destruction and ruin of humanity", though—I don't know that we can afford to waste too much of our energy in infighting.

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