When faced with a moral challenge, find a way to blame the Jews and claim victim status, even while in the act of trying to commit murder. Islamic antisemitism and Islamic supremacist evasion of responsibility find their apotheosis: "Palestinian family sends mentally ill son to settlement in hope IDF shoots him," by Chaim Levinson in Haaretz, December 23 (thanks to all who sent this in):
A Palestinian caught trying to infiltrate a settlement Wednesday night claims he was sent by his family members, who had hoped he would be killed by soldiers during the infiltration.Israel Defense Forces soldiers patrolling the central West Bank near the settlement of Beit El on Wednesday spotted a Palestinian walking toward the settlement and subsequently arrested him.
According to the investigation into the incident, the boy was behaving in a strange manner and the soldiers originally thought that he was drunk. Later on in the investigation, it was clarified that he was actually suffering from a mental illness.
The boy told investigators that his family wanted him dead. He said they threatened him at gunpoint, forcing him to walk towards the settlement with the hope that soldiers would think he was trying to infiltrate and would shoot him.
IDF scouts who searched the area confirmed the boy's version of events and found four family members who had tried to flee the area.
Perhaps he could be adopted and raised by an Israeli family instead of being sent back to the "religion of peace."
Wow! Family values.
Excellent idea! These people all believe we westerners adopt to harvest organs, but they'll get really mad if we adopt to nurse and cure them.
Sick bastards...
I wonder how this will play out in the press, if it's even mentioned...
Who is mentally ill?
Him or his family?
THe familys Muslim cleric is discovered to be a liar...he has been telling the family that the IDF always shoots stray Muslims....
Thats just realy sad.
Question to the liberals: How do you negotiate with people who will use there children as a weapon
Leave it to the cult of death to find new ways to kill. this time it's a new technique of honour killing, death by enemy soldiers. Who says muslims can't invent anything?
They always like to go on about how their families are strong etc, the truth is this, the weakest, those who won't conform, those who are sick are abandoned, the fittest only are part of the Muslim family, the rest go to the wall.
Did the Israelis arrest the other family members? I certainly hope so. Also, how old was the son? - Old enough to know what his own family was trying to do to him. The whole situation is beyond pitiful.
Those who are disable are typically looked down upon in many Muslim countries as being cursed by Allah, I once heard.
Any truth to that?
Lord, have mercy.
Year after year, young Israeli soldiers have been patrolling the hills of Judea and Samaria, by day and by night.
One wonders what other things like this - or worse, much worse - they have encountered.
For example: in an online discussion of 'honor' murders among Muslims, I once encountered the following.
http://solomonhezekiah.wordpress.com/2008/04/27/the-price-of-honour/#comment-617
'April 28, 2008 at 6:35 pm
'This [i.e. 'honor' murders - dda] is one of the things that makes me scream that Islam has no business being named in the same sentence as Christianity and I do scream it, well mention it, as often as possible when the whole “three great religions” bumph comes up.
'Many years ago, in a galaxy far, far away (ie, my youth) I worked for a year for Magen David Adom and in a pub one night I met this big, horrible, skinhead Russian import who was doing his time in the IDF.
'He was about 18 **and was back from a tour of duty in the West Bank where he and his buddy had found a 13 year old girl battered senseless, barely alive and wrapped in a plastic sack.** {my emphasis - dda}.
'He was, honestly, not the nice face of the IDF or anything else but he was sober and crying.
'I never forgot.' END.
Compare and contrast. The local Arab Muslim family - those dear sweet 'Poor Palestinians' that everybody sentimentally weeps over - bashing their 13 year old daughter/ sister/ cousin/ niece till they thought she was dead, and then coolly wrapping her in a big plastic bag (was she otherwise naked?), and...dumping her, as if she were a dead cat. In a wadi or some other hole in the ground, presumably. I bet they never wept a single tear for her. The tears were wept, instead, by one of those IDF guys that the Palestinian Solidarity Movement, and the ISM, and the EAPPI and all the rest of them just love to hate: a big burly Russian Jewish boy with a buzz haircut...sitting in a bar weeping for that little nearly-dead Arab girl that he and his mate had stumbled across while on patrol (and, one presumes, scooped up and carted off to be attended to by Jewish medics).
Muslims reject babies born with physical or mental defects and/or handicaps and if they could get away with it, they would abandon them to die like animals often do. Apparently this rejection includes children who acquire chronic illnesses. I'm sure there is some disgusting justification or sanction for this in the filthy qur'an. Of course, they continue their inbreeding, which is the reason they have so many defective babies. It has nothing to do with 'honor' but the muslim solution to all problems is: kill it, kill it, kill it and then celebrate its death. They won't adopt orphans and they reject their own less than perfect spawn---what kind of human beings could be this cruel? Only the most feral savages.
Not so fast, Susanp, your heart is way ahead of your head.
Another significant reason for infant morbidity is the often very young age of mothers in these countries. Yet another is the advanced ages of some mothers and fathers. And yet another will relate to the fact that since boy children are massively preferred over girls, the morbidity and mortality figures for girls will be higher than for boys - the reverse of countries where there is gender equality.
Some of the these issues were covered in comments on the Yemen, poverty and terrorism thread the other day:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/ap-claims-that-yemen-is-too-poor-to-be-concerned-with-jihad-after-years-of-claiming-that-poverty-cau.html#comments
Related item:
Tundra Tabloid reports that a Saudi mental hospital has 300 patients whose conditions have improved to the point that they no longer need hospital care, and for whom the best thing would be to return to their families; but their families refuse to take them back.
Reading this, im reminded of the courageous German student, Sophie Scholl, who was in the White Rose Resistance, a group of German youth who peacefully protested against Nazi Germany and its crimes. Sophie and her brother were caught and eventually executed.
From the movie "Sophie Scholl: The Final Days"
(The scene where she is being interogated - from actual transcripts of her interogation - after being told she wasnt raised properly by her parents)
Sophie: Do you realise how shocked I was to find out that the Nazis used gas and poison to dispose of mentally ill children? My mother's friend told us. Trucks came to pick up the children at the mental hospital. The other children asked where they were going. "They're going to heaven" said the nurses. So the children got on the trucks singing. You think I wasnt raised right because I feel pity for them?!
Interogator: These are unworthy lives. You trained to be a nurse. You saw people who were mentally ill.
Sophie: yes, thats why I know. No one, regardless of circumstances can pass divine judgement. No one knows what goes on in the minds of the mentally ill. No one knows how much wisdom can come from suffering. Every life is precious
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Muslim view on the mentally disabled, and the Nazi view. Spot the difference? I think not.
If Allah allows injury or rape or whatever, man, Allah's pissed. And if you want your honor back yo, you gotta kill for Allah.
Man.
Allah's like the ruler of a hardcore street gang! It's like he's in prison directing all these murders to his homey followers!
"Those who are disable are typically looked down upon in many Muslim countries as being cursed by Allah, I once heard. Any truth to that?"
As close as I can find to an answer, Bob:
"Parents of children with genetic disease typically believe that Allah (God) [sic] determined their child's fate in granting health or illness. While Mendelian inheritance stipulates that carriers will have a greater proportion of affected children, it cannot specify why a particular child is spared while another is affected. A mother of a child with a genetic condition expressed this as: 'the disease runs in my family. But only God knows why some children are fine and others are not.' "
(Genetic Disorders Among Arab Populations, Ahmad Teebi ed. 2010, p.733)
It appears that the rate of consanguinity is on the rise in some Arab countries, despite increasing levels of education and health care. The thrust of an emergent genetic counselling profession, still in its infancy and largely in a few countries only, is not to discourage consanguinity in the least, but simply to assist and support individuals and married couples with information and culturally and religiously appropriate counselling.
Two WHO-convened meetings in the region "agreed that consanguineous marriage is an integral part of culture and societal life in many areas, and that attempts to discourage it at the population level are inappropriate and undesirable." (p.735)
Figure that against this summary:
"The magnitude of genetic disorders in the Middle East is immense, yet the availability of genetic services in general, let alone genetic counsellors, is lacking. The impact of genetic disorders on the population is significant - as many of these conditions are chronic with sifnificant mental and physical involvement - and place a heavy social and financial burden on both families and the health care system." (p.739)
Of course he has a mental illness - its called Islam.
If the family wanted the kid to be shot at, they should have had him pick up rocks in Beit Hanoun:
"Since March 2010, 97 people have been shot in Gaza for collecting stones. This is one of the few ways a person can actually make money here at all. Beit Hanoun, Gaza is a dangerous place to spend time. 22 days before this report was filed, our party was shot at by Israeli soldiers in towers, here, in this same place. Over the last three weeks the same number; 22, describes the number of people shot by Israeli military here in this part of Gaza for either farming their crops, or the simple act of collecting stones, which in turn bring a person twenty sheckles a barrel."
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/december192010/gaza-boy-ko.php
"Muslim society looks profoundly repulsive.... It looks profoundly repulsive because it is repulsive....
"A Westerner who claims to admire Muslim society, whilst still adhering to Western values, is either a hypocrite or an ignoramus or a bit of both.
"At the heart of the matter is the Muslim family, an abominable institution." - Conor Cruise O'Brien, 1989.
Of course, the inside of your head is the perfect place to pick up rocks, isn't it, terrorist-loving West-hating Muslim barbarian.
The miserable cretin was so retarded, his own family couldn't trust him to "Pusha da Buttun" in the pocket of his "Jacket" !...
$10,000 just wasted !...
At least there are 72 happy virgins "Up there"!...
I recently read a piece about suicide bombing, that it is the weakest, mentally ill, poorest stock of Palestinian Arabs with no place in society who tend to get into suicide bombing.
Some of the ladies who do it have been raped and therefore to redeem their honour had to die, but if I can find the piece I mentioned I will post it.
This the one?
"The connection between Muslim inbreeding and terrorism"
by Nicolai Sennels Friday, December 17, 2010
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/12/connection-between-muslim-inbreeding.html#more
All I can say for this story is
YUCK!
//I recently read a piece about suicide bombing, that it is the weakest, mentally ill, poorest stock of Palestinian Arabs with no place in society who tend to get into suicide bombing.//
As usual, reality is the exact opposite of what you believe. In general, suicide bombers are more educated and better off financially than their piers, and they are socially integrated.
These findings have been made by several researchers. One of them is Ariel Merari (his name is mispelled in the following article):
"Ariel Merare, a psychologist at Tel Aviv University in Israel, said he had changed his view that most suicide bombers were mentally ill after studying the background of every suicide bomber in the Middle East since 1983."
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/13/1084289823327.html
If you are looking for a correlation between suicide bombers and occupation, it has been found that suicide bombers have a much higher percentage of engineers and physicians than their peers:
"And among jihadis outside Europe, and in particular suicide bombers, science education is a strong positive predictor (the most representative, educational categories of suicide bomber - a finding independently confirmed by Oxford sociologist Diego Gambetta- are engineer and physician, be it for Al Qaeda or Hamas)." -Scott Atran
http://thesciencenetwork.org/docs/TheConversationContinues.pdf
Most suicide bombers are likely to be more educated than yourself. How funny.
All I can say for this story is
YUCK!
Well, here is a scientific study, albeit in German, proving the correlation between religious fervor and rejection of western society and approval of violence. The study was conducted among teenagers.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,698948,00.html
The main factor is education and indoctrination in mosques.
"According to a new study muslim youths from immigrant families are significantly more prone to violence than migrants from other denominations. Islam, the way it is taught most often in Germany, promotes a brutal macho culture, said a criminologist Pfeiffer ....
The result: While young Christians with rising religiosity tend to be less violence in young male Muslims, the opposite is true..."
You insult another poster's intelligence and YOU cannot even spell the word: PEERS.
It is not "piers" unless you are at the dock.
Knothead, that IS you!
Picking up stones? Gathering ammunition.
What a kind family sending a Christmas present to the Israeli IDF. Perhaps if the youth was declared a martyr the family would get pensions and the lad his 72 virgins?
//Well, here is a scientific study...//
Your link begins with the following:
"A new study has found serious concern..."
Actually, this study is not new. This study was first published in March of 2009 in Zeitschrift für Jugendkriminalrecht und Jugendhilfe:
Baier, D., Pfeiffer, C., Simonson, J. & Rabold, S.: Jugendliche in Deutschland als Opfer und Täter von Gewalt – Erkenntnisse einer deutschlandweiten Repräsentativbefragung. (S. 112)
http://www.dvjj.de/artikel.php?ebene=2,306&artikel=1193
This study has nothing to do with a correlation between religious fervor and approval of violence. Actually, when Süddeutsche Zeitung first reported on this study, the headline stated that one in seven German students was very violent towards foreigners:
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/studie-jeder-siebte-schueler-ist-sehr-auslaenderfeindlich-1.388432
The main point of the study you refer to is that Germans are very violent towards foreigners. It took right wing extremists a year and a half to spin this study into saying it shows that Muslims are violent because of their religion. If anything in the study actually does suggest this, it may well be connected to the real finding; that German students are hostile to foreigners. Guess what foreign group is probably at the top of that list? Muslims? So Muslims fight back.
The study was subsequently reported by Kriminologisches Forschungsinstitut Niedersachsen. Here is the report:
http://www.kfn.de/versions/kfn/assets/fb107.pdf
Show me where it says that Muslims are violent because of their religion.
What do you expect from deciples of the Poedohile Propher?!!
defective children among the death cultists are considered as curses of allah upon the family. Usually good children are considered gift of allah. HThese defects do not get the special care and guidance given by western society. Many die early and are forgotten. The better ones survive to do menial jobs. But the family knows and fears that thier family would be considered cursed because of any defective children. The koranic view is that nothing happenes without the will of their allah. Not even a blade of grass moves without allah moving it. So a defective child is certainly looked on as a curse of allah.
Ten Obvious Reasons Why
Islam is NOT a Religion of Peace
#1 14,000 deadly terror attacks committed explicitly in the name of Islam in just the last eight years. (Other religions combined for perhaps a dozen or so).
#2 Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, had people killed for insulting him or criticizing his religion. This included women. Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.
#3 Muhammad said in many places that he has been "ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger." In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.
Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.
#4 After Muhammad died, the people who lived with him, and knew his religion best, immediately fell into war with each other.
Fatima, Muhammad's favorite daughter, survived the early years at Mecca safe and sound, yet died of stress from the persecution of fellow Muslims only six months after her father died.
Fatima's husband Ali, who was the second second convert to Islam and was raised like a son to Muhammad, fought a civil war against an army raised by Aisha, Muhammad's favorite wife - and one whom he had said was a "perfect woman." 10,000 Muslims were killed in a single battle, waged less than 25 years after Muhammad's death.
Three of the first four Muslim rulers (caliphs) were murdered. All of them were among Muhammad's closest companions. The third caliph was killed by allies of the son of the first (who was murdered by the fifth caliph a few years later, then wrapped in the skin of a dead donkey and burned). The fourth caliph (Ali) was stabbed to death after a bitter dispute with the fifth. The fifth caliph went on to poison one of Muhammad's two favorite grandsons. The other grandson was later beheaded by the sixth caliph.
The infighting and power struggles between Muhammad's family members, closest companions and their children only intensified with time. Within 50 short years of Muhammad's death, even the Kaaba, which had stood for centuries under pagan religion, lay in ruins from internal Muslim war...
And that's just the fate of those within the house of Islam!
#5 Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Islam. Within the first few decades following his death, his Arabian companions invaded and conquered Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and Zoroastrian lands.
A mere 25 years after Muhammad's death, Muslim armies had captured land and people within the borders of over 28 modern countries outside of Saudi Arabia.
#6 Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves. To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah.
None of these other religions are at war with each other.
#7 Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by threatening to kill anyone who leaves. This is according to the example set by Muhammad.
#8 Islam teaches that non-Muslims are less than fully human. Muhammad said that Muslims can be put to death for murder, but that a Muslim could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim.
#9
The Qur'an never once speaks of Allah's love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah's cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times.
#10
"Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!"
(The last words from the cockpit of Flight 93)
"Question to the liberals": The answer: You don't. But then of course I am not a liberal.
Normally, human beings cannot act in this manner mooslims do. If they can treat their own son and daughter in this barbaric manner, something truly is wrong with this religion to cause such heartless barbarity among mooslims.
In India, after Friday prayers these followers of allah and muhammad go on a frenzy of mob attacks in dark of that night, looting, and even raping innocent Hindu women.
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http://southbengalherald.blogspot.com/2010/12/kali-temple-attacked-in-rampurhat-hindu.html
Monday, December 20, 2010
Kali Temple Attacked in Rampurhat, Hindu Shops Vandalized, Hindu Women Molested
Rampurhat, Birbhum, West Bengal, India
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I truly believe now in the existence and power of the devil and it is allah who is the devil. Usually prayer in other religions leads to peace and love among its followers which has some logical explanation, while among mooslims it just does the opposite namely barbaric violence, looting, rape, hatred, anger etc. etc. Truly the evil quranic prayers have some power over mooslims who are all possessed by demons right after the prayer in their devil house called masjids.
Heartbreaking
Show me where it says that Muslims are violent because of their religion.
Hey Dave, do you watch the news, listen to the radio, read the newspaper and the articles on this site? The dhimmi media do all they can to obfuscate the religion of the ISLAMIC TERRORISTS that kill, maim, and wreak devastation every day of the week somewhere in the world, but 99% of the daily terrorist attacks are the work of MUSLIM SAVAGES and they have committed over 9000 of them since 9/11. That's proof enough for me that MUSLIMS are prone to excessive violence and it is easily understandable---their murderous clerics encourage it, incite it,and demand it based on the manifesto of war they call the 'holy qur'an'.
There are so many issues and people more worthy of defense than rabid muslims and islam. Why don't you find a real victim to advocate for?
Dave742 is a bigoted, parasitical, terrorist-supporting, devil-worshipping piece of Muslim trash who wants sending back to Pakistan where he belongs. Nothing less. He doesn't belong here.
but 99% of the daily terrorist attacks are the work of MUSLIM SAVAGES and they have committed over 9000 of them since 9/11.
It's almost 17,000, and yopu can bet the true tally is closer to 60,000 atrocities in the nearly 10 years since 9/11.
but 99% of the daily terrorist attacks are the work of MUSLIM SAVAGES and they have committed over 9000 of them since 9/11.
It's almost 17,000, and you can bet the true tally is closer to 60,000 atrocities in nearly 10 years since 9/11.
Bob Gill says: "Man. Allah's like the ruler of a hardcore street gang! It's like he's in prison directing all these murders to his homey followers!"
A coworker of mine's 21yo son is currently in a NYC jail for a month. She told me that he had three choices: To affiliate himself with a gang, to convert to Islam, or to stand alone and face the wrath of every other gang. She told me that, because they are black, there is even more pressure and he was forced to choose. Islam really is like being in a gang when it comes to jails. I honestly found it horrifying and told her so.
"Most suicide bombers are likely to be more educated than yourself. How funny."
You think being indoctrinated is the same as being truly educated. How funny. Actually, not funny- it is sad- for both you and your "piers".