Thousands chanting "Allahu akbar" and "Death to Israel" greet jihad flotilla ship as it arrives back in Turkey

The "humanitarian aid" flotilla ship arrives back in Turkey as thousands of Turks show by their chants what it was really all about.

"Mavi Marmara Arrives in Turkey; Ankara Holds Out for Apology," by Chana Ya'ar in Israel National News, December 26:

Thousands shouted "death to Israel" and greeted the Mavi Marmara flotilla ship Sunday as it docked in Istanbul, a day after Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told journalists that although Turkey would like to restore its formerly friendly ties with Israel, the Jewish State must first apologize for the deaths of nine terror activists who were killed after they attacked IDF soldiers on the vessel last May.

The "Foundation for Human Rights and Freedoms and Humanitarian Relief" -- known by the acronym "IHH" -- held a welcoming ceremony for the vessel at the port. The Turkish terror-linked organization was behind the armed, trained mercenary-style "activists" who occupied the vessel during the May 31 incident that has been the focus of tension between the two nations for months.

Davutoglu held firm to the Ankara government's position that Israel is to blame for the rift between the two countries, but he insisted to journalists at a news conference in Istanbul on Saturday, "We have the intention of making peace with Israel."...

The "Allahu akbar" chants show up in this Spanish-language artlcle: "Miles de personas acogen en Estambul al ferry atacado por Israel en mayo," from El Periódico, December 26 (my translation):

Thousands of people waving Turkish and Palestinian flags, have welcomed into a port in Istanbul the Turkish ferry Mavi Marmara, aboard which nine Turkish activists died as a result of the Israeli military attack against the humanitarian flotilla that was heading to Gaza May 31....

That paragraph may be more biased than even the English-language press.

The protesters who have come to meet the ship, in response to the call of Islamist organizations and IHH, have greeted it with shouts of "Allah is greater." IHH has denounced the Jewish state and its policy toward the Palestinians.
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Thousands chanting "Allahu akbar" and "Death to Israel" greet jihad flotilla ship as it arrives back in Turkey
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Well, of course! How else would you greet a "peace flotilla" other than with calls for death? sarc/off

Jews & Christians need to unite against the most evil new Nazism joint-alliance of the Left (Hitler was a Socialist who loved Islam) and Islam. Their evilness has no boundary - such is evil when appeased! The Palestinians are now claiming so arrogantly that our Lord Jesus Christ, our God who was 'born' as the Son of God,in human flesh in the great symbolic form of a righteous Jew, Yeshua (in order to offer Salvation from sins and the wickedness of the world, and loving recociliation between God and genuinely repentent Jews and Gentiles to be His Children in His Kingdom), as an Arabic-Muslim Palestinian! I suspect the intention is to further divide Jews and Christians. Thus, at http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/12/le-manifeste-de-paris.html#more "We invite everyone to join an association or party that leads this fight, in accordance with one’s own political sensitivity and to bond with individuals, groups and countries in order to set up strong network. That’s the only way to resist the sexist, homophobic, Islamic totalitarianism, which aims, by using demographic dynamics and intimidation, to suppress a humanist civilization. We reject obscurantism, superstition and blind submission of Man to morbid and disgraceful principles.

In this day and age, we have founded a free association of independent organizations. We are a team. We have a fight. In this day and age, we launch a European movement of resistance, based upon the defence of our civilization faced with a new totalitarianism.".......

Amen to that! MERRY CHRISTMAS!


Leaked photos of the flotilla raid (http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/g.php?g=55&p=1#gallerytop)
clearly show IDF commandos mauled and beaten by activists. The pictures also show commandos prostrate and bleeding on the floor, surrounded by the knife brandishing activists.

Lets pet on our critical thinking caps. The beaten commandos could have easily been murdered. And yet, they were not killed. Why did the activists hold back?

Was it perhaps some last minute mercy? Or maybe, eschewing murder was in fact the goal. Wasn't the whole purpose of the flotilla to generate bad publicity for Israel? What better way to do this than by provoking the IDF into fatal retaliation, without actually killing an IDF soldier? Murder is after all a categorical sin in Islam. What better way to embrace martyrdom (Sahid) without murder?

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to Turkish Islamism. It is far more insidious and calculating than anything the West has yet encountered. In the very least, it is much more humane than suicide bombings and violent Jihad.

Thanks Graven image !!

You took the words right out of my mouth ..Lol!!

Well, of course! How else would you greet a "peace flotilla" other than with calls for death?

Graven, you could actually leave the sarc/on. :)

The reception of the Mavi Marmara seems pretty tame from this angle...

Israeli source:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/thousands-gather-in-turkey-to-greet-ship-at-center-of-gaza-flotilla-raid-1.333042

Robert Spencer, sensationalist articles only detract from your movement's primary goal: Ending violent Jihad.

"Lets pet on our critical thinking caps. The beaten commandos could have easily been murdered. And yet, they were not killed. Why did the activists hold back?"

Because they intended to kidnap them? Why else would they drag them downstairs? Either way the Israelis attacked with knives and metal rods, one thrown over to the lower deck which is the same as throwing a person from a building, some severly wounded, couldn't read the Islamist "activists"' minds and had to shoot to defend themselves. Next time you send a ship to break the blockade and support Hamas make sure the "peace" "activists" don't attack the Israeli soldiers and force them to defend themselves.

And as for the reception of the Mavi Marmara, we saw videos taken there on Israeli TV and in this case it was like the article Robert cited, plus the Israeli reporters were threatened. Haaretz is a leftist rag like the Guardian.

And by the way, FREE KURDISTAN!

you (att ... :) just beat me to the punch about ha'aretz...
i am trying really hard to understand how could it be that there are israeli people whose views are so virulently anti israel and pro islam in whichever shape or form it takes...
could they be SOOOO misguided?

more and more i am becoming disappointed with bibi's inaction/passivity ....meekness?
i have found lieberman's reaction to the turks totally appropriate.
what is your take?

Israeli leftists are like western leftists. Same disease. Plus the anti-Israel Israelis are embraced by the west while the pro-Israelis are shunned and treated as quasi Nazis. It's the same for the Jews outside Israel. To be a "good Jew" you have to denounce Israel.

As for Turkey, apparently Turkey is important to Israel, though they need us at least as much as we need them. And in general Israel is under sustained international attack, so Israeli leaders think they should mitigate it the best they can.

Personally I think that if we arrived at a point where we are condemned and demanded to apologize for defending ourselves and compensate our attackers, then if we cave in to that we might as well start building the ovens for ourselves. What's the point in having an independant state if we're going to live the same way as we did in exile, under this or that boot or sandal? We are not dhimmis and we have a right to defend ourselves against Islamic aggression.

I advocate supporting the Kurds. They have their land occupied by Turkey, Iran, Syria and Iraq. We have no friends among these four, and supporting the Kurds will be morally right, except I totally oppose the PKK terrorism. Anyway we should not help the Turks with anything. If they support Hamas we have absolutely no reason to help them against the PKK. At least the Kurds have a valid claim. They are not a fake nation recently invented just to legitimize the destruction of another nation. They are an acient nation with their own distinict culture, history and language (actually two that branched from the same ancient language), unlike Iraqi ARABS, Syrian ARABS, Jordanian ARABS, Palestinian ARABS, Egyptian ARABS, Saudi ARABS, Qatari ARABS, Kuwaiti ARABS and so on and so forth.

In general I think Israel has reached a point where we have nothing to lose. Israel and its supporters should start telling the truth. We have nothing to lose. Barak and Olmert offered maximalist peace proposals, the Arabs rejected it, the world blamed Israel. Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza, we got thousands of rockets, missiles and mortars and Hamas took over, the world blamed Israel. The Pharaoh in the white house and the Arabs demanded a construction freeze as a precondition to negotiations, Netanyahu agreed to a ten months construction freeze and still the Arabs refused to negotiate, the world blamed Israel. When the ten months were over the Arabs demanded again a construction freeze as a precondition to negotiations, this time Netanyahu said he will agree if the Arabs recognize Israel as a Jewish state, the Arabs said "No way!", the world blamed Israel. Whatever we do - we're screwed. So it doesn't matter what we do and it doesn't matter if we're being "diplomatic" and play along with this charade, this global kangaroo court, so we might as well start telling the truth and state our case loud and clear. We are condemned anyway, so what do we have to lose? We should start speaking out boldly and clearly and expose our enemeis for what they really are. If the world decides to hang us it doesn't matter since the world has already decided to hang us, no matter what we do or what we say.

As rabbi Nahman said, "the entire world is a very narrow bridge and the essential thing is not to fear at all".

quite so...quite so...
thank you for a most eloquent post...
rabbi nahman would have smiled to have heard his saying sang by yehoram gaon....

Katharina:
Yes, Yeshua was not a Muslim, a staement which is a complete oxymoron.

You claimed that the Messiah was a 'God'.

I want to comment on this.
How is the Messiah prophesied to be?? It is important to know, so that one can differentiate between a true Messiah and a false Messiah. Let us study Tan’’kh (which Christians call the “OT”) to see what it teaches about the Messiah.

Yeshayahu [”Isaiah”] 9:5: [Translation in accordance with etymology – science about the origins and meanings of words; and the semicolon is placed according to the cantillation marks which the Hebrew texts require]:

ויקרא שמו פלא יועץ אל גבור; אבי-עד שר-שלום :

(wa-yiqrâ shәmo Pëlë yoeitz Eil Jibor; avi-ad sar- shâlom; ”and he called his name ‘Wonder,’ a counselor of Eil Jibor; My Father is until [i.e. forever], a minister of peace”)

The Creator does not change – Malakhi 3:6, Tehilim [”Psalms”] 89:35. The meaning of this passage from the year 720 b.c.e cannot have changed. For more than eight centuries after that Yeshayahu proclaimed this prophecy, the Messianic interpretations remained strictly within the restrictions of Torah [“the books of Moses”] – a vision of a deadly human king patterned after king Khizqiyah [“Hiskiah”] [which the prophecy partly was about] – who no one considered to be a “godly man-saviour”!

Yeshayahu 9:5 and its context demonstrates that the Mashiakh [“Messiah”] is the agent of the Creator, not an “incarnated man-god”. [Read more on this link article in my blog: Link

Anders Branderud

Correction:
I wrote: "Yes, Yeshua was not a Muslim, a statement which is a complete oxymoron."
I meant 'anachronism', not 'oxymoron'.

Some Christians are doing a similar mistake when saying that 'Jesus taught Christianity'.

The first century Yehoshua was a Torah-observant Pharisaic leader with semikhah [rabbinic ordination] from Raban Jamliyeil. [Documentation.]

To say that he or his followers started a new religion contradicts a formal logical analysis based on the historical documentation; and it is not what the followers of the Messiah were prophesied to teach.

Anders Branderud

Anders Branderud, we Christians always based our faith and wisdom on the truths in the Holy Spirit-filled written Bible by our God’s chosen Apostles. Have you read the Gospel, the Good News, and the New Testament on the whole. Please don't get me wrong; I also believe in the Old Testament which contains the Torah, but our shared Judeo-Christian God, Lord Jesus Christ, in the NT, opened the path of reconciliation with ever sinful human beings, through genuine repenting from sin, and believing in Him and His power as the one and same God as in the OT. I would suggest you read also this brilliant analysis: "...For Jesus boldly claimed He shared the divine nature of God in that He was the source of life. The Jews had an expression for that divine trait, which was used by God Himself when He spoke to Moses at the burning bush. When the people asked Moses, “Who sent you?” he was instructed to say, “I AM has sent me.” (ref: Exodus 3: 13-14). That was and is the ultimate name for and expression of God. It means that God is “the uncaused cause of all things.”
For Jesus to claim that He possessed “life in Himself”, even as did the Father, was tantamount to equating Himself with “I AM”, the uncaused cause of all things. It is no surprise, then, to find in Him in John 8:58 using that very title to identify Himself. He announced to the Jews, “Before Abraham was, I AM.”…….- See Tim Lahaye, Why believe in Jesus (Oregon: Harvest House Publishers, 2004; p 83) .

eeuilding on the excellent comment by Doom and Gloom, Bibi needs to stop trying to reconcile what cannot be reconciled and stake out a new position, then present it to the Israeli people in a new election. He needs 61 Knesset seats for Likud and parties on the same page. I believe he can get it if people believe he has the guts to stick to his position. The majority of Americans will approve once he explains his rationale.


first, Israel will become the first nation to voluntarily withdraw from the United Nations. Membership was onc regarded as an honor. Today it is a disgrace. Why Israel first? In Numbers we read that the Midianite prophet Bilaam was hired to curse the Jews, but could only speak the words G-d put into his mouth. One saying was, "It is a people that dwells alone, and is not counted among the nations." Has anyone seen the list of nations not eligible to sit on the Security Council? In his withdrawal speech he will invite the US and all other nations who actually respect the UN Charter to form a new organization, modeled after the group that walked out of Durban II.

Second, considering that the Palestinian Arabs have broken every committment they made, including Arafat's promise to amend the Charter, all negotiations with them are canceled. They can live and work in the disputed territories as now, but will not be given voting rights in Israel. Nothing will change until they change the way they define the conflict, and until the Muslim world commits to peace with a Jewish state.

Last, in the words of Yitschak Rabin, "Israel's security border is the Jordan River. The IDF will maintain continuous presence in Judea/Samaria, the "West Bank," indefinitely.

In the unlikely event that he will do this, and the less likely event that he will stand his ground against the firestorm of protest against his program, we will begin to see progress toward real peace.

robert, your proposal makes a lot of sense, there is everything to be gained by it and there is nothing to be lost since...there IS nothing at hand.
bibi's speech at bar ilan in 2009 has left me speechless...

two state solution?

why?
has the ex-sayeret matkal (elite comando unit)now pm of israel thrown in the towel?

withdrawing from the un is an excellent idea since this has got to be the most pathetic hypocritical organization that even surpasses fiction!
i have always maintained that one should do what one thinks is right and not bother too much with consensus nonesense because this is a sure formula for not getting ANYTHING done.
that being said, does it make a difference what the world says?
hell - no!
the 'intelectuals' (i have the highest contempt for these pos)will lose no time in condemning the jewish state.
so what else is new?

jordan, which is politically stolen land, and was supposed to be part of the 'jewish home', should become the home of this FAKE ENTITY that the entire world who was TOTALLY SILENT during the holocaust, during the genocide in darfour, cambodia, etc. etc.... all these righteous hypocrites are sooooooo concerned .

damn it! did anybody say as much as 'boo' at the transfers of populations in cyprus, moldavia, basarabia and 1001 other places?
there is a war.
you lose.
the winner takes it all!

out of sheer generosity and kindness, israel has treated these arab with kindness only to be rewarded with savage murderous attacks.
enough!
load them on the buses and ship them to the allenby bridge.
and let the ummah take care of you...

of course israel must also stop insisting on being more catholic than the pope and start to take care of its own!

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