
Six months later, there have been no arrests in the stoning deaths of a young Afghan couple who had eloped. One will recall that this was the case where Afghanistan's president, Hamid Karzai, condemned the execution without trial, but did not say a word about the method of execution. Our moderate "Friend and Ally" would not condemn stoning as he tried to win the favor of clerics who want the worst of Sharia's punishments enforced.
There is a video at the link to the report, with the predictable shouts of "Allahu akbar." "Afghan police pledge justice for Taliban stoning," by Quentin Sommerville for BBC News, January 26:
The men who stoned a couple to death in north Afghanistan will be brought to justice, say officials, after footage of the killings came to light.
The man and woman were accused of adultery in the district of Dashte Archi in Kunduz province last August.
Hundreds of people attended the stoning but no-one was charged. The area is still under Taliban control.
After viewing the footage, regional police chief Gen Daoud Daoud said those responsible could be recognised.
"Special police investigators will be sent there, we will find them and they will be brought to justice," he told the BBC.
A mobile phone recording of the killings has only just been seen by Afghan and Nato officials. Most of the video is too graphic to be shown.
The video begins with Siddqa, a 25-year-old woman, standing waist-deep in a hole in the ground.
She is entirely hidden in a blue burka. Hundreds of men from the village are gathered as two mullahs pass sentence. As Taliban fighters look on, the sentence is passed and she is found guilty of adultery.
The stoning lasts two minutes. Hundreds of rocks - some larger than a man's fist - are thrown at her head and body. She tries to crawl out of the hole, but is beaten back by the stones. A boulder is then thrown at her head, her burka is soaked in blood, and she collapses inside the hole.
Incredibly Siddqa was still alive. The mullahs are heard saying she should be left alone. But a Taliban fighter steps forward with a rifle and she is shot three times.
Then her lover, Khayyam, is brought to the crowd. His hands are tied behind his back. Before he is blindfolded he looks into the mobile phone camera. He appears defiant.
The attack on him is even more ferocious. His body, lying face down, jerks as the rocks meet their target. He is heard to be crying, but is soon silent.
The couple had earlier eloped to Pakistan, but were lured back with the false promise that they would not be harmed.
Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid defended the sentencing.
In a telephone interview he said: "Anyone who knows about Islam knows that stoning is in the Koran, and that it is Islamic law.
"There are people who call it inhuman - but in doing so they insult the Prophet. They want to bring foreign thinking to this country."...
This is curious: the paraphrase here does not match the translated quotation in the video, which does not include the part about the Qur'an.
Stoning is not in the Qur'an as we know it, of course, but that does not mean Islam is off the hook. Apologists willingly (and deceitfully) give the impression of Islam as a sola scriptura affair. It helps to create an image of the Qur'an as uncreated, complete unto itself, and not dependent on the cultural and temporal context of 7th-century Arabia. But the Qur'an-only movement within Islam is a small, heretical group. Nonetheless, there is this intriguing hadith:
Umar said, "I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, "We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book," and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession." Sufyan added, "I have memorized this narration in this way." 'Umar added, "Surely Allah's Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him" (Sahih Bukhari 8.82.816).
Muhammad carried out stonings. Islamic law prescribes them. And apologists' insistence on ignoring or downplaying that ensures the future suffering of men and women like Khayyam and Siddqa. Clearly, they would rather live with that than, as the Taliban spokesman said above, "insult the prophet."
"Anyone who knows about Islam knows that stoning is Islamic law. There are people who call it inhuman, but in doing so, they insult the prophet"
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The vicious "Prophet" needs to be "insulted", and "insulted" regularly, for propagating such inhuman atrocities for *almost fourteen hundred years*.
When one thinks of the terrible human suffering he has engendered, and the terrible moral brutalization of his own appalling votaries, it is just sickening.
More:
The couple had earlier eloped to Pakistan, but were lured back with the false promise that they would not be harmed.
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How common is this? We hear this all the time, where victims of "honor" killings—which, essentially, is what this is, writ large—are lured to their murders with false promises that they will not be harmed—often, in fact, that "all is forgiven".
This can be laid at the feet of the barbaric "Prophet", as well, who openly condoned lying to victims in order to more easily murder them. He gives his "blessings" to a follower who notes that he will have to feign friendship in order to assassinate a person who has "insulted" Muhammed.
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One will recall that this was the case where Afghanistan's president, Hamid Karzai, condemned the execution without trial, but did not say a word about the method of execution.
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Nor did Karzai add that this couple did not commit a crime at all—that falling in love is only a "crime" under Islam.
"The stoning lasts two minutes. Hundreds of rocks - some larger than a man's fist - are thrown at her head and body. She tries to crawl out of the hole, but is beaten back by the stones. A boulder is then thrown at her head, her burka is soaked in blood, and she collapses inside the hole."
I let out a gasp when I read this. How does anyone have the stomach to take a video of this and not be repelled?
gravenimage,
The word you use to describe Mohammed applies to all of his followers: barbaric.
The mullahs on the scene said the woman should be left alone but what did that mean? They were going to leave her there to suffer a slow and painful death? In a strange way, shooting her was almost an act of mercy. Her husband didn't receive similar consideration.
"Hundreds of rocks - some larger than a man's fist - are thrown at her head and body. "
Islam......feel the love....
Many have most probably seen similar videos of stonings in the past but its got to be a first for the BBC, are they abandoning their bias??
Rather remakable the BBC to show this considering the disgusting bias they normally have.
But notice they blame the taliban not islam.
Still its not like them to air anything showing moslems or islam in a bad light, they normally reserve that for Jews and Israel and the EDL. There been a couple of small not so nice to islam tidbits slip through of late.
Must these big chops in their budget put the wind up them, better pander to mainstream England again.
"There are people who call it inhuman - but in doing so they insult the Prophet."
He means "Prophetess"!!!
Nothing is more insulting to Islam's Prophetess than Islamic "Holy" Books.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/01/prophetess-of-islam-video.html
http://schnellmann.org/stoning_bukhari_muslim.pdf
Stoning in Islam
Many ahadith Sahih to Muhammad's orders to stone adulterers
In core Islamic texts, Muhammad repeatedly ordered stoning:
In the most canonical hadith collection, Sahih Bukhari:
In the Qur'an "Allah" says at least 25 times that Muhammad is to be obeyed. That is one reason why most Muslim scholars accept the Bukhari hadiths and a few other hadith collections as authoritative for Muslims: canonical hadiths show what Muhammad did and said, permitted and forbade.
Excellent link, Schnellmann_org
This is why multiculturalist all cultures are equally good moral relevist sicken me. I judge a culture among other things on how they treat thier women. Islam passes failure and delves into satanic on that measure. It's end will be it's own doing and it will not be pretty.
http://newstime.co.nz/stoning-by-taliban.html
Stoning by Taliban (“Qur’an scholar”) in Pakistan
SHOCKING VIDEO OF TALIBAN STONING TO DEATH A WOMAN IN N.PAKISTAN……. According to Zip it was shot by a Taliban himself. This is very graphic as it is brutal, but it needs to be seen to fully comprehend the brutality of sharia. KGS…
@ traeh
Your welcome Traeh, thank you very much :-)
Such is the Beast Demon of Islam - that keep producing evil Muslim savages like these. Soon enough, they'll even be invited to theWhite House especially if that that Islam-loving White House 'hijacker' Hussein Obama and his Dem party SLAVES get re-elected! Hopefully, our Lord Jesus Christ will come soon to destroy the Beast and the Anti-Christ!
Go to ABC News - the cell-phone image has been "enhanced". God, did I just say that?
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Anyway. Look.
I don't know about you, Schell, and the rest of you here on JW, but this just "put me over the edge".
I'm not sure anyone can tolerate this further. This is simply barbaric. It is sub-human.
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OHH! I can hear the screams now - "ALL of us are humans and creatures of God! How can you say that Professor?"
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I.
SAY.
NO.
MORE.
STONINGS. Got it Mohammedans?! Damn You!! Blast You!!
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The time has come to redefine what is permissable in 21st Century society. This "Islamo-activity" must cease NOW!
I literally wretched upon watching the first 15secs. I had to turn away. This says something, doesn't it, or am I "hyper-sensitive"?
Tell me, Schnell..
@Marisol
"This is curious: the paraphrase here does not match the translated quotation in the video, which does not include the part about the Qur'an."
Yep, i noticed that too.
And the paraphrase was used one more time on the right sight of the text with larger font too.
This could be information operation by the british, trying to persuade people that Taliban Islam is not really Islam, and Taliban even don't know what's in the Quran (Lol), therefore this is not Islam and there is nothing to worry about. And if something is not in the Quran then it is not Islam.
But it is incompetent operation (putting words in Taliban spokesman's mouth), many Taliban have been in Madrasas and some of them even memorize the Quran, plus Islam is also based on the Hadith.
Maybe they try to deradicalize the british muslim community, trying to manufacture for them that the Taliban don't really know what Islam is, therefore british muslims should't simpathize with such "ignorant muslims"..
"retched", not "wretched", though that is how I feel.
Just sick.
"retched", not "wretched", though that is how I feel.
Just sick.
Good point sir and well taken. One must always regard anything BBC with biased eyes. In Australia we have the SBS (special broadcast service), a "multicultural" tv network who even host a muslim "comedy chat show" called "Salaam cafe" and the Age newspaper (internationally referred to as "Al Age") to contend with.