Support for jihad in high places. "Egyptian Security Guards Withdrew One Hour Before Church Blast, Say Eyewitnesses," by Mary Abdelmassih for AINA, January 2:
(AINA) -- The car explosion that went off in front of Saints Coptic Orthodox Church in Alexandria killed 21 and injured 96 parishioners who were attending a New Year's Eve Mass. According to church officials and eyewitnesses, there are many more victims that are still unidentified and whose body parts were strewn all over the street outside the church. The body parts were covered with newspapers until they were brought inside the church after some Muslims started stepping on them and chanting Jihadi chants (video showing dead bodies and limbs covered with newspapers in the street).According to eyewitnesses, a green Skoda car pull up outside the church shortly after midnight. Two men got out , one of them talked shortly on his mobile phone, and the explosion occurred almost immediately after they left the scene. On the back of the Skoda was a sticker with the words "the rest is coming" (video of car explosion and Muslims shouting "Allah Akbar").
It was reported that the bomb, locally made, had 100KG of explosives in addition to having nails, glass and iron balls inside. The strength of it not only caused glass panes to be shattered in all the neighborhood, but also made body parts fly into the building's fourth floor, and to the mosque facing the church.
There was no immediate claim of responsibility but officials hastily blamed either Al-Qaida or the Israeli Mousad of being behind the blast, but none of them mentioned the Egyptian state security which is viewed by Copts as the real culprit.
To clear his security forces of negligence, the Minister of Interior said that the blast was an "individual" case, caused by a single suicide terrorist detonating his vest, and has nothing to do with an exploding car. The governor of Alexandria claimed the attack as being aimed at Muslims and Christians alike.
And Barack Obama, not surprisingly, picked up on that.
After the blast, traumatized Copts were angered by chants of "Allah Akbar" from Muslims and began hurling stones at the mosque. Immediately security forces which were absent during the car blast and the ensuing events, appeared and starting shooting tear gas at the Copts, and they in turn hurled stones at them, said an eyewitness. Fifteen Copts were rounded up from their homes by the authorities....Eyewitnesses confirmed that security forces guarding the church withdrew nearly one hour before the blast, leaving only four policemen and an officer to guard such a big church and nearly 2000 people attending the midnight mass. "Normally they would have waited until the mass was over," said el-Gezeiry. He also commented on the Muslim's schadenfreude at the massacre at the church, who were heard chanting "Allah Akbar."...
On January 6 2010, just before the Christmas Eve Massacre in Nag Hammadi, security withdrew its forces from guarding the church a couple of hours before the shooting of the Coptic congregation took place.
Attorney Mamdouh Nakhla, Head of Al-Kalema Human Rights Center, wondered if state security is an accomplice or just too cowardly to confront the Islamists in Egypt who carried out the Church massacre. "The crime is local and those who committed it are known, in addition there was a demonstration on the same day using the same rhetoric like al-Qaida. The Al Mujahedeen website threatens to repeat the attack in more churches. The site has addresses of churches and even how to make a bomb. Does security not know about it?"
"Anyone who says that it was a foreign or Israeli plot is trying to play down the crime and is trying to clear those murderers of this massacre, and I consider them their accomplices," said Nakhla.
Nakhla said that he was preparing a complaint to be presented to President Mubarak asking for the resignation of Interior Minister Habib el Adly for failing in his duty of protecting the Copts, and for not telling the truth by saying that it was a suicide attack by one individual, when everyone could see the detonated car, just to clear his security personnel of the responsibility of letting the Skoda park in front of the church. "This 100KG bomb could not have been transported by one individual as the Interior Minister wants us to believe."...
Egypt, Pakistan, Iraq, Kosovo, Nigeria, Indonesia -- among others -- should not be receiving one penny in aid from any Western country. Any trade treaties with these countries, giving them "most favored nation" status, should be revoked, and heavy tariffs placed on their products instead. And any immigration from these countries should be restricted to Christians and other non-Moslems.
The body parts were covered with newspapers until they were brought inside the church after some Muslims started stepping on them and chanting Jihadi chants...
Living in fear of the Religion of Peace...The Movie...
Chapter 5:14...Or...the final solution to the Christian problem by working out that enmity and hatred...
Primitive mentality...A mind that is still in the jungle of raw animal-ism...This is Islam...Unless you are willing to convert, it will be you covered by newspaper and stepped on, while the beast howls Allahu Akbar to the Moon...
Maybe I should send that line to Stephen King...
And meanwhile their Christian brethren across the face of the earth simply turn their heads as if nothing ever happened! This latest Koran-inspired atrocity by Muslims against Christians is revolting to say the very least. May God help us in out callous indifference!
I just noticed that Robert posted this at 5:33...Isn't that just a little tooo coincidental?
BBC Egypt’s president calls for unity after church bombing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUisnbBlsQg
http://newstime.co.nz/video-happy-new-year-infidel-church-bombing-in-egypt-kills-21.html
Please wirte protest messages to the Commissioner Nina Shea
Director of the Center for Religious Freedom, Hudson Institute
00:30 What part of the sentence is it
… the Egyptian President & sneaky taqiyyah(3:28, 16:106, 5:51)-visage Mubarak does not understand?
9:5 “Kill the unbelievers wherever ye find them” (sacred months was a pagan tradition)
No. 9 is the last dictated chapter
of the illiterate Muhammad
Mr. Mubarak to the word of Allah, true Muslims
(not peacful wishy-washy Muslims 20 KB)
cannot live peacfully with Christians
5:51 “O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians
for your friends….”
It's an interesting exercise to look up the Quran verse that is the time an article is posted...Like 5:33 as noted above...Sometimes the verse actually fits the article...
This just in: Ayatollah Obama sez that "MUSLIMS WERE THE REAL VICTIMS HERE........"
Oh really? Just how is that? Waiting waiting waiting...
What would UN dictator's pet Navi Pillay say about this? That Israel's counter-nazistinian walls, which keep such terrorist acts from becoming an hourly thing within its borders, ought to be responsible for it. If she says anything about it at all, that is.
Do Copts in Egypt shout Allah Akbar? And after a tragic attack like this?
I sat on a bitter sarc comment along those lines. But I thought it too far out and not in the best of taste .....
Coming to a city near you one day, America? Americans elected this dangerous Muslim-born president with deep sympathies for the world of Islam, only 7 years after the 9/11 Muslim-terror attacks on U.S. soil. Shame on America! Americans knew his troubling background - Jeremiah Wright, Nation of Islam, jihad-supporting / anti-Semitic professors and businessmen, etc. - and they elected him nonetheless.
Frank Gaffney on President B. Hussein's June 2009 Cairo speech:
• Mr. Obama referred four times in his speech to "the Holy Koran." Non-Muslims -- even pandering ones -- generally don't use that Islamic formulation.
• Mr. Obama established his firsthand knowledge of Islam (albeit without mentioning his reported upbringing in the faith) with the statement, "I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed." Again, "revealed" is a depiction Muslims use to reflect their conviction that the Koran is the word of God, as dictated to Muhammad.
• Then the president made a statement no believing Christian -- certainly not one versed, as he professes to be, in the ways of Islam -- would ever make. In the context of what he euphemistically called the "situation between Israelis, Palestinians and Arabs," Mr. Obama said he looked forward to the day ". . . when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them) joined in prayer."
So, where is the deceiving liar GerbilTea now? A video showing the car which exploded in flames, a lying Interior Minister and jihadis yelling 'Allahu Akbar' as body parts of Coptic Christians lie strewn around the street.
Islam is entirely responsible for this outrage - and many others. It's not a religion, it's a fascist organization.
"Attorney Mamdouh Nakhla, Head of Al-Kalema Human Rights Center, wondered if state security is an accomplice or just too cowardly to confront the Islamists in Egypt who carried out the Church massacre"...
Ummmm...If you have to "wonder" WHICH one it is, I submit that you are on the side of the jihadists, or at least too scared to ADMIT that the state security are a part of the religious cleansing within the country, and throughout the mudslime world.
"jihadis yelling 'Allahu Akbar'"
Do we know they're Jihadis though? As I understand Christian Arabs and Copts use the word "Allah"... do they also chant Allah Akbar?
@ Green Infidel
No, the Copts do not shout Allah Akbar! But Muslims do. Check out the following if you don't believe me.
http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2009/07/egypt-muslim-mob-shouting-allah-akbar.html
According to eyewitness accounts on Egyptian Christian forums, the nice Muslims across the street were not just affirming that their Allah is the biggest god (Allahufubar), they were also dancing on the body parts of victims. These were smaller pieces. Members of the church had respectfully covered them with newspapers, but had not yet found a way to gather them up in a dignified manner, so as to bring them into the church. It was then that their neighbors stopped by to voice their support.
JCL
wildjew there is no doubt this will soon be happening in America. The only reason it hasn't started in mass is the muslim population is still to small. As their numbers multiply so to do the odds of this happening increase.
You are right Am. Infidel. And because millions of Christians (some Jews) are pushing back. What will happen when the next generation comes of age?
The background of this massacre is an outrage that Muslims committed, shifted the blame to the victims and punished them for it anyway in typical savage Mohammedan fashion.
It is no secret to the informed that many Coptic girls and their families are victims of an organized campaign for kidnapping of young Coptic teens, raping them and forcibly Islamizing them with the assistance of the police who threatens the families into silence while the girls linger on as concubines pressed into sexual slavery and horrific abuse by their masters and their families. The last stat I read in a Coptic magazine estimated based on parental reports to the church and other sources that this happens to about 3 Coptic girls on average a day or over a thousand girls each year and this atrocity is growing fast as the operation expands and gets more sophisticated.
Recently, they upped the ante, and several married Coptic women and even several wives of priests have been kidnapped, raped and video taped to be shamed into conversion and marriage to one of their abductors as per Sharia a married woman who converts to Islam is automatically divorced from her Kafir husband. The most infamous case and the source of Alqeda’s pretext for this horrific massacre is that of a wife of a Coptic priest, the late Mrs Camellia Shehata, who was kidnapped a couple years ago by a co-worker with the assistance of the local Jamm’iia Shar’iia (a government sanctioned, funded and controlled Islamic group that operates in mosques and are permitted to strike only at the Copts and is used as a counter-balance against Islamic groups hostile to the state). Inside sources close to the church claimed that she was drugged, was subjected to rape and severe coercion to force her to proclaim that she willingly converted. However, this did not work out so well when they finally brought her before the authorities to announce her conversion. Also, in a rare display of daring against the brutality of Mohamed Hosni Mubarak’s security forces, the Copts vigorously but peacefully protested and showed uncommon courage against an onslaught by interior ministry central security forces that attacked them inside the grounds of the Papal residence in Cairo with outmost brutality. Despite the horrors that Mrs. Camelia Shehata was subjected to, when she was brought by a group of big framed bearded fanatics in Islamic garb who were chanting Allahu Akbar to maintain the psychological hold and frighten her into saying that she willingly converted in front of the state prosecutors, the lady who was middle aged and a mother of two grown children, said that she was born a Christian and will die one. The state authorities had no choice as she said that in front of the church representative but to release her to leave with them. The church found shelter for her in a nunnery when it became clear that she can never return to her normal life and she needed protection as both the authorities and the Jamm’iia were out for blood. Not to be undone, Muslim groups circulated a fiction that the Islamic media and the net picked up that the church forced the government to hand her over to be imprisoned in a monastery and subjected to cruel torture to renounce Islam. Yes, the same Church authorities who cannot get a toilet in a church repaired without presidential approval (absolutely no kidding here). The horrors that this poor woman was subjected to and the constant fear that the Muslims can take her at any time must have took too heavy a toll on her health. Finally, Mrs. Shehata succumbed and passed away some time after she sheltered in the nunnery. After her death the Muslims proclaimed her a martyr who died a defiant believer under severe torture inflicted by sadistic Coptic clergymen and demanded a heavy retribution. Youtube has many videos posted by Muslims on the subject and the overwhelming majority of Egyptian Muslims, including the so called liberal ones, believe the same tale as Alqeda. If fact, Muslims from all over the world, including the US and Western countries have joined in condemning the Copts and calling for their blood.
I shall expand on this facet of the ethnic cleansing perpetrated by the Muslim Egyptian state officials and the civilian Muslim majority, which are supposedly moderates and friends of the US. Most Copts not only face discrimination, they are hounded in every sphere of life to make their lives as intolerable and as insecure as possible. Most Copts today who are not lucky enough to be shielded by good fortune of where they work and live face constant taunts and humiliations as proscribed in the Shari’a and it is getting worst everyday. Perhaps 50 – 200 Copts are killed and injured every year in so called sectarian incidents that receive some media attention, but many more Copts are killed individually by Muslims which are either classified as disputes or accidents. Also, for many years since the reign of the evil Sadat, Coptic religious tour buses, Coptic business men and clergy die in mysterious accidents when their vehicles end up falling into irrigation canals flanking Egyptian highways. A Coptic priest who survived while his entire family perished claimed that he was forced off the road into the irrigation ditch by a vehicle that was tailing him. Coptic businesses, factories and other establishments are routinely targeted by arsonists. Some have rebuilt several times. Coptic businesses face organized boycotts that are announced from mosques, circulated in pamphlets, on the web and by word of mouth. The Jewelry business was until recently a Coptic dominated industry, employing many Copts who would have no other way of earning a living in such a society. Curiously, Copts inherited that industry when Egyptian Jews handed it over to their Coptic workers when they were kicked out of Egypt during Nasser’s era or when some of them escaped when German troupes appeared close to overrunning the country during WWII. Rich gulf Arabs and Muslim Egyptian businessmen conspired to undermine Coptic control of that industry by importing cheap Pakistani goldsmiths and building gigantic jewelry factories, wholesale distributors and retailers that out-competed the small family owned Coptic stores. Many Coptic jewelry stores were armed robbed and their owners massacred by Ayman Zawheri’s old Jihad group, the proceeds from one such robbery paid for the guns and bullets that killed Sadat.
The Copts are under siege economically, are subjected to constant liable, mob violence, police attacks and highly organized campaign designed to demoralize them in order to force a gradual exodus and an increasing rate of conversion by desperate Copts who no other viable option.
I had a friend who was forced to go back to hell in Egypt when his asylum case rejected. I personally know of many more such cases. The federal courts are full of evil leftist judges and employ a large number of Muslims as interpreters and staff, consequently they have been entirely hostile to Coptic asylum seekers, especially that the state department claims that the Egyptian state does not officially persecutes Copts. Copts are forced to show tangible proof. Would a university that rejected a qualified Coptic applicant because of his religious affiliation give him a letter stating as much? Would all the Shar’ia banks and all business owned by Gulf Arabs and other pious Egytian Muslims that have no Copts hiring policies give a sworn affidavit to that? Would the majority of Muslim consumers in a neighborhood that boycotted a Coptic shopkeeper, destroying his livelihood, get together to sign a document that he can show in a hearing? Would the Police and Egyptian courts, complacent in the campaigns rape, murder and mayhem ravaging the Copts give official documents to that effect?
However, Bushy and OBamy have brought unprecedented number of Muslims to the US who will breed and in a few short decades changing the US forever. I came to the US as a teen, served as a United States DoD Uniformed Services Civilian for a year in Iraq, and I am currently employed in a vocation that helps our troops to survive enemy attacks. The day that I took my US visa at the US embassy in Cairo, a hundred Muslims did so. I doubt that many or even any of those are loyal to the US.
The sad story of my race has been written with their blood. Perhaps by the end of the century the last vestiges of the true Egyptian people would be expunged forever.
Would have this inhuman genocide occurred if the Coptic Christians were the majority population in Egypt and the Muslims were the minority?
It is, indeed, quite interesting, DS. I have long enjoyed and learned from you, Ebonystone, Isabella, Marisol,Hugh, etc., etc.,
This is my first post on JWatch and I am now deeply in the game.I submit for your perusal a chapter of a larger essay in progress.
This is, of course,slightly OT, but it will do for a decent first post having to do with what I believe to be a major chink in the "armor" of the Mohammedans - that is, the illiteracy of Mustafa Al Qasim, which brings into relevance the "manner and realizatiion" of alleged revelations from God :
VII
“Don’t Shoot the Piano Player”
There is a very curious passage in the Koran, very near the beginning. You will find this in the standard section listing the “miracles performed by the “prophet” of Islam, Mohamed Mustafa al Qasim.
After some thought, it occurred to me that I had possibly stumbled upon something very critical in a discussion of the worth and indeed, validity, of the Koran itself.
Again, Muslims believe it to be the immutable and holy word of god as transmitted by their “messenger”, Mustafa al Qasim (piss be upon him). I submit that this is not possible, for one very simple reason – the man Muslims call their ideal man, their prophet, their messenger – was illiterate. He was never taught (nor did he teach himself) to read and write. No one can possibly memorize (from one “hearing”) all that is contained in the Koran’s voluminous pages! This is no small fact often overlooked by serious students of the abomination that is the Koran, and its psycho pseudo-religion, Islam.
The question remains, “How was the book written down?” It takes some time, but I believe the awful truth is there for all to see:
Narrated Anas: “There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat Al-Baqarah and Al-Imran and he used to write the revelation for the Prophet (pissbuh). Later on, he reverted to Christianity and used to say “Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him”. Then Allah caused him to die and the people buried him but in the morning they found that the earth had thrown out his body. They said “This is the deed of Muhammad and his companions. They have opened the grave of our companion (emphases mine) and took his body out because he ran away from them”. So they again dug the grave deeper for him, but in the morning, they again found that the earth had thrown the body out. They said, “This is a deed of Muhammad and his companions”. So they dug a third grave as deep as they could, but in the morning, they found that the earth had thrown the body out. Then they believed what had befallen him, was not done by mankind, and they had to leave the body on the ground (see Sahih Al Bukhari, Vol.4, Hadith No. 814)
Firstly, who are “they” in the text? Who are the “people” who buried him? Christians?, Jews? And perhaps more importantly, we are advised to remember that the above is listed as a miracle that Mohammed performed! None of the miracles of Jesus, by way of contrast, included someone being killed who, for example, “rejected” Christianity.
Secondly, what was the “deceased’s” name? Surely such a miracle would have been remembered (at least in part) by recalling the name of the “literary apostate” who ended up in such a bad way, being that “Allah caused him to die”.
That’s another question; how and under what circumstances exactly did he die? Clearly, ‘ol Mo’s buddies did the dirty deed for the pressing reason that Mo couldn’t have someone going around letting his little secret out. Or perhaps, the real Allah needed to teach these maniacal grave diggers a lesson: that you can try to bury this man, but I won’t allow you to conceal your crime against humanity and me.
Next, one is drawn to the portion of the passage suggesting culpability on the part of Mustafa and his crew.
Why include these words? They read almost like a guilty child doing his one page report on “why I acted out so badly”…you get the picture. Indeed, there are several telling passages in the Koran that refer obliquely to the troubling question of how this supposed holy book came to be, or rather, exactly how the divine transmittance was originally recorded.
Clearly, Mustafa fanagled enough guys to write stuff down that he said, abrogating when necessary when alerted by those scribes of inconsistency between verses.
In short, the Koran is an utter fabrication and the
personage of Mohammed is exactly what we know him to be – a medieval, illiterate, bloodthirsty and treacherous clown. Anybody who calls themselves Muslim is a devotee of evil, madness, and a sort of "institutionalized plagiarism by the sword".
DMD
ARE COPTS GETTING THE MESSAGE
that fellow Moslems in their tolerant, interfaith secular country want to please Allah and the Prophet's immortal soul with the reality of a Christian free Egypt? Perhaps only then will Egypt regain its leadership role in the Middle East and throughout the Sunni world. Heck, if the Moslem Brothers and Hamas are powerless to drive the Zionists into the sea in next door Israel what's left for them to do but rid Egypt of Copts?
This happened in sorts in NYC after 911 when Muslims in the Middle Eastern neighborhoods in Brooklyn danced and chanted Allahu Akbar and their women made the famous wedding shrieks from the windows of residential buildings as Americans jumped to their death to avoid incineration and as the towers collapsed in an inferno. The Christian Middle Easterners who witnessed that could do nothing. I am certain that given half a chance, they would have marched to Manhattan to dance over the infidel remains and the site of their victory. But don’t you worry, some clever ones pretended to be volunteers so that they can loot jewelry or whatever they could off those killed by their brethren and from the stores beneath the towers. The ones that managed not to get arrested sold their loot back in the neighborhood. Funny, they never published all the names of the looters caught or what happened to them.
Do not be fooled people! I grew up in Egypt, I regularly meet with Coptic asylum seekers, and I am convinced that there are no real moderate Muslims there. The only liberal ones are apostates in secret or ones who have nearly no knowledge of the Islamic dogma and are deeply influenced by western culture to the extent of being entirely ignorant of their own. I can assure you that and in a nation with 75 million Muslim citizens, you can perhaps fill a Starbucks with the truly moderates.
Ever since advent of Usenet newsgroups in the mid nineties, I have communicated with so called American Muslims of Egyptian decent who were born and raised in America. They, no different than their parents, hate the Copts with a passion and blame them for any incident where they are attacked. These people are your "moderate" neighbors and co-workers. They may not be able to express their hatred of you yet, but believe me; they will happily dance over the mutilated limbs of your loved ones given a chance, and you are gradually giving it.
ARE COPTS GETTING THE MESSAGE
that fellow Moslems in their multifaith secular country want to please Allah and the Prophet's immortal soul with the reality of a Christian free Egypt? Perhaps only then will Egypt regain its leadership role in the Middle East and throughout the Sunni world. Heck, if the Moslem Brothers and Hamas are powerless to drive the Zionists into the sea in next door Israel what's left for them to do but rid Egypt of Copts?
Indeed, It is coming here. In NYC, I see more and more muslims lurking. They all sell newspapers and all the stands on the street. They are starting to appear in Duane Reades, the financial services industry and the media. I see more abayas and niqabs than ever before and the politically correct do nothing. We even have muslime politicians here, so the the stage is being set before our very eyes.
I feel deep sorrow and deep anger at the continuing plight of the copts. It is happening in Europe and it is going to happen here. Indeed for Whom do the Bells Toll?
The blood on the Egyptian government's hands in facilitating this genocide attack by withdrawing security forced just in time for the attack and then returning just in time to arrest CHRISTIANS who were justifiably outraged over the mocking by the islamists who were celebrating the horror amounts to DEMOCIDE.
I wrote about the insanity of Obama's dangerously misleading comment over at my blog if anyone is interested:
http://zillablog.marezilla.com/2011/01/barry-genocide-bomber-is-not-victim.html
Some people think I am too harsh on him because some of the injured MIGHT be muslim.
Yes, and we have this ultra-assimilated Jewish mayor, Mayor Michael Bloomberg who is little better than the judenrat - those Jews who enacted Nazi German laws in the Jewish Ghettos; Jews who worked hand in hand with the Nazis in the Final Solution. Mayor Bloomberg supports the Ground Zero mega mosque. Like Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky (1956-1966), Bloomberg is an ultra-assimilated Jew. Like Kreisky, Bloomberg has forgotten who he is.
agreed, ebonystone - why favour nations that clearly hate our religious heritage and pour scorn on human rights?
President Barack Hussein Obama acknowledges that the attacks were directed at Christians but he adds, Muslims were injured as well. When aren't Muslims injured in the event Muslims target non-Muslims? Muslims were injured and killed in Israel's second Lebanon war with Hezbollah. Nevertheless Israeli Arab-Muslims blamed Israel for the killings by Hezbollah Katyusha rockets. Muslims were killed in the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks. Muslims were killed in the 1998 bombings of the Kenya and Tanzania U.S. embassies. U.S. President Hussein's sympathies are with Islam (the world of Islam) and the Republicans want to work with this dangerous man?
[quote]This just in: Ayatollah Obama sez that "MUSLIMS WERE THE REAL VICTIMS HERE........"[/quote]
Link?
The body parts were covered with newspapers until they were brought inside the church after some Muslims started stepping on them and chanting Jihadi chants ...
This savage ritual calls to mind the 2000 "intifada," in which a Palestinian Arab triumphantly waved his bloody hands out a building window after butchering a couple of Israelis, and the Mumbai massacre, in which Jewish murder victims were sexually mutilated.
And the same Islamic instinct is at work in the Ground Zero mosque project, in which Muslims seek to build on the pulverized remains of the 9/11 dead.
"the security guards withdrew one hour before the bombing"! Of course they did, they're NOT stupid! Dear president Obama: NEVER ever believe the meaningless boasts of muslim dominated governments that they can/ will protect nonmuslims from Islamic REQUIRED violence. This was an "inside job" ie those in authority KNEW THERE WOULD BE AN ATTACk! Please Mr.President get some professional help for your dangerous delusions about Islam before others are killed and injured. May I suggest Robert Spencer, or other writers at JIHAD WATCH.
Every major attack in Egypt was facilitated and was planned in cahoots with the government. There is a prevailing myth that just because the Egyptian government is publicly at war with the most extreme Islamic factions, it does not tolerate Muslim hardliners. This is blatantly false and examples of this dichotomy can bee seen in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan who are supposedly are at war with extremists, yet they fund, train and support them so long as their targets are infidels say in Chechnya, Iraq, Afghanistan or India.
If you can stand to look, please take a look at the graphic images and videos to know understand what is coming and what is at stake.
http://www.masry-now.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1118:2010-12-31-23-41-51&catid=46&Itemid=165
Egyptian security guards withdrew an hour before jihad bombing at church
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I had thought this attack was horrifying enough, but this *clear complicity* from the Egyptian authorities is much worse...
More:
...there are many more victims that are still unidentified and whose body parts were strewn all over the street outside the church. The body parts were covered with newspapers until they were brought inside the church after some Muslims started stepping on them and chanting Jihadi chants...
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Below is an account by Oriana Fallaci, in Dhaka in Bangladesh, who saw Muslims doing exactly that—stepping on dead bodies while chanting "Allah Akbar!" (thanks to Dumbledore's Army for this posting from a few months ago):
From "The Rage and the Pride":
"To make you cry I’ll tell you about the twelve young impure men I saw executed at Dacca at the end of the Bangladesh war.
"They executed them on the field of Dacca stadium, with bayonet blows to the torso or abdomen, in the presence of twenty thousand faithful who applauded in the name of God from the bleachers.
"They thundered "Allah akbar, Allah akbar."
"Yes, I know: the ancient Romans, those ancient Romans of whom my culture is so proud, entertained themselves in the Coliseum by watching the deaths of Christians fed to the lions. I know, I know: in every country of Europe the Christians, those Christians whose contribution to the History of Thought I recognize despite my atheism, entertained themselves by watching the burning of heretics.
"But a lot of time has passed since then, we have become a little more civilized, and even the sons of Allah ought to have figured out by now that certain things are just not done.
"After the twelve impure young men they killed a little boy who had thrown himself at the executioners to save his brother who had been condemned to death.
"They smashed his head with their combat boots.
"And if you don’t believe it, well, reread my report or the reports of the French and German journalists who, horrified as I was, were there with me. Or better: look at the photographs that one of them took.
"Anyway this isn’t even what I want to underline.
"It’s that, at the conclusion of the slaughter, the twenty thousand faithful (many of whom were women) left the bleachers and went down on the field.
"Not as a disorganized mob, no. In an orderly manner, with solemnity.
"They slowly formed a line and, again in the name of God, walked over the cadavers. All the while thundering Allah–akbar, Allah–akbar. They destroyed them like the Twin Towers of New York. They reduced them to a bleeding carpet of smashed bones."
This sounds like *exactly* what those Egyptians Muslims were trying to do to the bodies of the Coptic victims.
More:
He also commented on the Muslim's schadenfreude at the massacre at the church, who were heard chanting "Allah Akbar."...
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Schadenfreude is a damned ugly emotion—but it seems positively clean compared to what we have here. These Muslims were not merely feeling smug about what had happened to the Copts—they were in full support, and obviously complicit in the attack—they clearly knew it was coming, and many of them were likely directly involved.
More:
There was no immediate claim of responsibility but officials hastily blamed either Al-Qaida or the Israeli Mousad of being behind the blast
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What crap. As though Muslims would be celebrating in the streets over a terrorist attack by the hated 'Zionist' *Mossad*.
This attrocity couldn't have been more "Islamic".
OT.
So much for Fla. Governor-elect, Rick Scott and all his lofty words about the Ground Zero Mosque:
AN OPEN LETTER TO
GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT
FROM
TOM TRENTO
“Governor, they duped you sir…the Muslim Brotherhood, that is.”
As a conservative Republican, you have my support as you undertake the extremely difficult job of getting Florida back to work.
As a leader on national and state terrorism issues, you may be losing my support as a result of your decision to have Imam Enrique Rasheed participate in your solemn inauguration on January 4, 2011.
My guess is that your advisors will begin some immediate “damage control” and brand myself and others who hold you accountable for this decision as Islamophobes.
Rest assured, there are good Muslims in Florida that want nothing to do with the Muslim Brotherhood, and we stand with them.
Here is the problem in a nutshell. The Muslim Brotherhood has initiated an “influence operation,” on you and round one, goes to them.
Now, if you have to ask, “What is the Muslim Brotherhood? My point is made.
Yes, Governor, the Muslim Brotherhood is a real organization, with a seditious and treasonous agenda, operating throughout the State of Florida.
Without question, through their behind the scenes capabilities, you “discovered,” Imam Rasheed and were convinced he is the perfect holy man to help unite all faiths in Florida and make the world a better place.
Did anyone on your staff tell you that Imam Rasheed was one of the keynote speakers at a Florida Conference of Muslim Americans where the theme was “Planning, Designing and Implementing Quranic Standards for Living in Model Communities?”
Is anyone on your staff aware of what "Quranic Standards" means to authoritative shariah Islam and its relationship to the US Constitution?
Imam Rasheed also did a highly regarded presentation on, “Appreciating & Understanding the Language and Leadership of Imam W.D. Mohammed?”
Governor, if you have to ask, “Who is Imam W.D. Mohammed? Well sir, the Brotherhood duped you again.
My guess is that many in the state of Florida will not be applauding your selection of an Imam who “appreciates the leadership” of an Imam who went on record saying,
“I will never denounce him (Louis Farrakhan) as long as he says he wants to be a Muslim.”
SIMPLE QUESTIONS FOR IMAM ENRIQUE RASHEED
Has anyone asked Imam Rasheed if he repudiates the implementation of Islamic shariah law in the United States of America?
Has anyone asked Imam Rasheed if he agrees with Section 219 of the American Immigration and Nationality Act that authorizes the Secretary of State to designate HAMAS as a Foreign Terrorist Organization?
Will Imam Rasheed unequivocally condemn HAMAS?
Has anyone asked Imam Rasheed if he rejects the Islamic teaching that requires punishment, to the point of death, for those who convert from Islam to another religion?
My purpose in this short letter is not to extensively analyze the actual beliefs of Imam Rasheed or to brief you on the Muslim Brotherhood and related Islamic shariah concerns, but simply to draw your attention to this national security issue and provide a positive suggestion moving forward.
Sir, I will be the first to admit we all make mistakes. The problem is that some mistakes, left to their own, metastasize into significant security problems related to Islamic terrorism.
I HAVE TWO SUGGESTIONS
1. Please withdraw Imam Enrique Rasheed from participation in your Inauguration until he is fully vetted by recognized experts on the Muslim Brotherhood, counter-terrorism and related Islamic concerns.
2. May I respectfully suggest that you schedule a national security briefing, with counter-terrorism experts, on the Muslim Brotherhood and its operations in the State of Florida?
If you are interested, I will help facilitate this briefing.
CONSIDER THIS
Recently nineteen national security experts produced a significant Report detailing and substantiating the existence, operation and objectives of the Muslim Brotherhood in America.
Members of TEAM B 2 regularly brief elected officials, federal, state and local law enforcement officers and many of the USG three-letter intelligence agencies…so the issue of competency or qualifications…is really not an issue.
If you are interested in finding out about one of the most serious security threats to Florida, please review the material below and make the decision that you believe is best for our great State.
Respectfully,
Tom Trento
Good to see you posting...There are several hadith that mention Mahounds illiteracy, but I like this one the best...
Bukhari Volume 3, Book 31, Number 137:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
The Prophet said, "We are an illiterate nation; we neither write, nor know accounts. The month is like this and this, i.e. sometimes of 29 days and sometimes of thirty days."
But then there is this...
Tabari IX:174 "The Messenger's pain became so severe he said, 'Give me pen and paper so I may write a document for you so you will never go astray after me.'"
He could have been delusional...or he may have become literate later in life...I read somewhere that Zayd Nufal (SP) taught him...Apparently they met in the cave on Mt Hira, and hung out together after that...
At any rate, that was a good write up...
The bombing in Alexandria has provoked some soul-searching among young Muslim men in the UK. Here are a few selections from a thread on the moderate website Islamicawakening. I found the last comment from 'ismaeel' especially insightful.
(Materials in brackets are my clarifications.)
JCL
THREAD TITLE: HUGE EXPLOSIVE IN FRONT OF CHURCH IN ALEXANDRIA
Abu Saleem Subhan'Allah {{GLORY TO GOD}} {{FIRST POST IN RESPONSE TO NEWS STORY}}
Dawud_uk {{A CONVERT TO ISLAM}} {{RE A PICTURE POSTED}} filthy kuffar are not meant to have their crosses on display outside, another law of the shariah the egyptian taghoot {{IDOL}} ruler doesnt follow
Isma'eel Just saw it on the news. I can't believe this tiny minority got the muslims of Egypt by the balls.
Abu Saleem {{TO ISMAEEL}} My thoughts exactly.
Abu Saleem May Allah accept the brothers who carried our the operation whether they were right or wrong.
FOS May Allah guide all those whom we have failed to convert the last 1400 years or have them all kill each other for us or make the Muslims do it with valid excuse ameen, and may Allah protect the weak amongst the muslims.
gag order the police must do more to contain the indiscriminate violence and hatred from the christian lynch mobs. the muslims of egypt cannot be held to account for the incident they must defend themselves against the christian death sqauds braying for blood and not let guilt by association cause them to lower their guard.
Khawla Please note that the kuffar have got no right to spread their batil {{FALSE}} religion in a land of Muslims. True we dont have the Islamic States established as for now, but the lands are considered to be as part of Islamic territories. And currently we have got munafiq {{HYPOCRITE}} or murtad {{APOSTATE}} rulers as leaders but the countries themselves are amongst Muslim lands and therefore no kuffar can be let to spread thier cursed religions .And its the duty of those Momineen {{BELIEVERS}} who are in authority to deal with them .
Muneer88 a kaafir is not equal to a muslim, make that clear to yourself once for all
Ibn Shaddad This would have never happened if the Christians just released the Muslim women like Camilia.
abumuwahid “By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, there is no one among this ummah, Jew or Christian, who hears of me than dies without believing in that with which I have been sent, but he will be one of the people of Hellfire.” (Reported by Muslim, 218). Pretty negative to be a copt, don't you think. How are they dhimmis, when they pay taxes, just like you do, to Firawn {{Pharaoh scil. Mubarak}}?
gag order {{TO ABUMUWAHID}} as is your attitude that somehow we are responsible for this atrocity? now go bury yourself in the grave with the rest of your coptic denizens of hell..
gag order copts are a disgusting people who worship a skinny anonymous jew nailed to a cross {{THE LORD JESUS CHRIST}}
GunmetalGrey My thoughts are with the people who got caught up in the crossfire {{THE MUSLIMS WHO DIED}}, but it's amazing how the Copts have been lifted up on a pedestal by the Egyptian government compared to the treatment of Muslims there! And then people are surprised when such bombings happen?
Abu Kamel Copts are some of the richest people in Egypt and have an inordinate amount of power in large part due to the rise of secular ideology, secular politics.
harith they should be worried of bigger things to come.
ismaeel {{IN RESPONSE TO A NON-MUSLIM WHO FOUND SOME OF THE EARLIER COMMENTS VIOLENT}} He is deliberately using general terms in order to paint us all as blood-thirsty animals who want to kill as many people as possible.
As with most attacks on Christians and other minorities, Pakistan, Iraq and now Egypt, the most influential members of the security and the state are key to whether the attacks go ahead or fail, be they ministers, presidents or Prime Ministers.
At the moment the Egyptian government is fearful of the Muslim parties, they know they have the support of the majority of Egyptians, to appease them the government will do all they can to prevent them gaining political ground and threatening the government.
The Egyptian government probably doesn't care one way or another whether the Copts are all slain, but if that's what it takes to keep the Muslim parties and Al Qaeda happy they will give all the help they can to them. Either overt or covert.
These are the 'moderate' ones. I guess its time all of them were tracked down and deported, along with their entire families. And I wouldn't call them animals as it is being unkind to animals. I'd call them terrorist-loving infidel-hating parasitical Muslim scum who should never have been let into the West to sponge off us in the first place.
Spirit, thank you for saying exactly what I was thinking. Head 'em up, move 'em out!
Urrghh ....an obvious one for Loonwatch, I'd say.
Or one of the "We hate Hatred and Bigotry" sites. But I suspect they are not interested.
It seems Loonwatch have taken the Al Q'aeda line, and decided that this was all because of Camilla Shehata's "conversion to Islam"...
Aha ....that one again. I usually point such cases in the direction of the video where she explains the situation and crosses herself. They never bother to answer so I don't know whether it has any effect.
So we are down to projection and the persecution and oppression of Muslims again. Oh dear, the poor rabbi or Christian who once laughed at Muhammad's claims has a lot to answer for :(
It is not unusual to see Egyptian Muslims complain that the security forces are on the side of the uppity Copts. Read: too bad they are allowed to exist.
John, thanks for posting this vicious Muslim bile. I found these perhaps the most interesting:
Isma'eel—Just saw it on the news. I can't believe this tiny minority got the muslims of Egypt by the balls.
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Somehow being viciously attacked by Muslims means that the *victims*—somehow—have the brutal majority "by the balls". I suppose because the Egyptian authorities feel compelled to offer any vague condemnation at all.
More:
gag order—the police must do more to contain the indiscriminate violence and hatred from the christian lynch mobs. the muslims of egypt cannot be held to account for the incident they must defend themselves against the christian death sqauds braying for blood and not let guilt by association cause them to lower their guard.
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The projection in this last post is just unbelievable—or would be, if one didn't consider the source.
Until force is met with equal or greater force, nothing will change, except maybe the landscape. There will eventually & soon be no more Christians in Egypt or the Middle East.
Shoutout to any members of the Coptic community resident within the West - Canada, Australia, New Zealand, USA, western Europe and UK - who may be reading this.
But especially those in Australia, Canada and the USA where the Muslim population has not *yet* reached such a size as to be able to seriously threaten you and your churches *here*.
MAKE NOISE.
ORGANISE PROTESTS. This latest atrocity should trigger marches and rallies all over the western world.
Get onto groups like Barnabas Fund, Release International, Compass, Tears of the Oppressed, Voice of the Martyrs.
**Hold rallies and protest marches and SCREAM BLUE MURDER in our streets.**
Ask EVERY leader of EVERY major Christian group in our countries to show solidarity by publicly attending your protests - e.g. ask Cardinal Pell of Sydney to come, if you do a Sydney protest, and even ask him if you can start the march from St Mary's Cathedral. If they say no, ask them why they refuse to publicly stand with their persecuted and murdered brethren in Egypt.
Send a letter about Muslim abuse of Copts in Egypt, to every single Congressperson in the US; and to every single Parliamentarian (Canada, Australia, UK).
Sit down outside our parliaments and call for our governments to 1. stop giving money and/ or weapons to Egypt, 2. curtail trade with Egypt 3. STOP immigration of Muslims from Egypt and STOP admitting Egyptian Muslims to study or do business here and 4. ask for Coptic Christians from Egypt to be given top priority in our refugee/ asylum seeker intake (along with Assyrian Christians from Iraq). NO Mohammedans to have ANY access to ANY stage of the application and screening process of Copts applying to immigrate, or seeking asylum/ refugee status. There are plenty of intelligent Arabic-speaking Copts in our countries - I am thinking of Mr Spencer's friend Raymond Ibrahim as a notable example - who could vet the applicants and would be able to weed out any Muslims who were pretending to be what they ain't.
I say to any Copt within the West, who may read this: if, in order to protest against this latest atrocity against Christians in Egypt, you hold a memorial service and rally and march in *my* hometown in Australia, and I hear of it in time, **I will come and I will march with you**. And I am sure that all the jihadwatchers here, from all their different countries, would do the same.
Wherever you are, if you *are* going to hold protests against this latest episode in the slow-motion jihad genocide of Copts, send Mr Spencer the details so he can advertise it at this site.
List ALL the protests/ rallies/ marches you are going to do, in ALL the countries - date, place, time.
Dda: this was a comment from a man on Sudan Tribune about something I said (my name there is "Australian"):
2 January 01:31, by J G kuol
Australian my friend ,one can not imagine what coptics and
Nubians went through back in the last centuries.In 1990’s when so called the civilization project(Mashruaa Elhadhari)
reached its heights.My relative who looks like (keizan)the hardcore of polical islam (keizan)is the slang the sudanese regular folks called them.Well,my relative with his very unique beard and his personal appearance says is one of them
> One evening while we were coming from christian fellowship
in downtown Khartoum,he waved to a coptic guy just to say hi
then he said to me,do you know that oldman!he converted to islam just to keep his property which is inherited from his grand grand parents.It wasn’t like paying the value of the
property by folowing the rules of law.Another one was also a
coptic neighbour of my uncle who’s now in Australia with his
family.My uncle’s wife got good relations with that coptic
middle class family.One weekend when I visited my uncle’s house in the neighborhood of Khartoum Bahry county,my uncle’s wife had a conversation with a young woman,and she told me the young woman she was talking to is an engineer by trade,and they’re such a good family but her brother had converted to islam just to protect their properties.Imagine how many families went through same situation.And to those who don’t own properties realestates and big assets, decent jobs and positions in private and public sectors were put in use to create a multitude of converts.It was pathetic,those were the good for (Hal elzima) under the religion of peace ,uh
Myself I’m not a separatist by nature,but the truth I’m one of those who view separation as an immune from (zimatude) for generations to come.
>Nubians:Halfuween,mahaas,Danagila those are real nice folks ,I went to school with them.I shared same thing with them ,spoke arabic in class room ,and our own languages at home.These guys don’t have the idea of policing moral values on people.And if you go to Dugula or Halfa Jadidi you would definitely enjoy Sharbot ,sharbot is a homemade alcohol
made from dates. 2 January 01:31, by J G kuol
Australian my friend ,one can not imagine what coptics and
Nubians went through back in the last centuries.In 1990’s when so called the civilization project(Mashruaa Elhadhari)
reached its heights.My relative who looks like (keizan)the hardcore of polical islam (keizan)is the slang the sudanese regular folks called them.Well,my relative with his very unique beard and his personal appearance says is one of them
> One evening while we were coming from christian fellowship
in downtown Khartoum,he waved to a coptic guy just to say hi
then he said to me,do you know that oldman!he converted to islam just to keep his property which is inherited from his grand grand parents.It wasn’t like paying the value of the
property by folowing the rules of law.Another one was also a
coptic neighbour of my uncle who’s now in Australia with his
family.My uncle’s wife got good relations with that coptic
middle class family.One weekend when I visited my uncle’s house in the neighborhood of Khartoum Bahry county,my uncle’s wife had a conversation with a young woman,and she told me the young woman she was talking to is an engineer by trade,and they’re such a good family but her brother had converted to islam just to protect their properties.Imagine how many families went through same situation.And to those who don’t own properties realestates and big assets, decent jobs and positions in private and public sectors were put in use to create a multitude of converts.It was pathetic,those were the good for (Hal elzima) under the religion of peace ,uh
Myself I’m not a separatist by nature,but the truth I’m one of those who view separation as an immune from (zimatude) for generations to come.
>Nubians:Halfuween,mahaas,Danagila those are real nice folks ,I went to school with them.I shared same thing with them ,spoke arabic in class room ,and our own languages at home.These guys don’t have the idea of policing moral values on people.And if you go to Dugula or Halfa Jadidi you would definitely enjoy Sharbot ,sharbot is a homemade alcohol
made from dates.
> Thanks,and have a nice day Sir
> From the farmer,Numile,S.S
I will just add that my Coptic friend in Sudan is very worried about imminent sharia law there.
Sorry, I don't know how it got doubled there.
Why NO help from the West to us (Coptic)?
The Muslims wants to kill us,The terrorists massacres us, we do not have weapons,we do not have army, our police works against us, WE ARE ALONE.
The west is just talking or condemning or whatever it does many thanks but oh it does not help. WE NEED HELP IF YOU CAN .
ANYWAY WE CAN GIVE YOU JUST A LESSON FROM ALL OUR Tribulations,pain and hard times.
THE WEST OPENED ITS GATES TO SNAKES (MUSLIMS) IT WILL PAY THE PRICE SOONER OR LATTER ... LEARN FROM US BECAUSE WE LIVED WITH THESE SNAKES MANY YEARS.THE SNAKES ARE HAPPY WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU MAKE IT SO EASIER FOR THEM TO INVADE YOU AS THEY SAID,THEY OFTEN USE THE WORD "INVADE" WHEN THEY SPEAK ABOUT THEIR GROWTH POPULATION IN YOUR COUNTRIES.YOU CALL IT "WELCOME OUR FRIENDS".JUST DO NOT MENTION THE REST.
THE WEST CAN PROFIT FROM MANY COPTIC BY MAKING THEIR IMMIGRATION EASIER , AT LEAST,THE COPTIC DO NOT HATE THE WEST IN THEIR DEEP HEART LIKE MUSLIMS DO.
JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.
Gamal, on behalf of my people, I am so, so sorry.
Many of us are desperately frustrated with our governments who are facilitating such madness and do not listen to us, and utterly ashamed of people among us who bow down to these barbarians. The world is getting close to full control by Islam. It might not look like it to most people, but it is.
I am so sorry, so ashamed.
PJG ,Many thanks for your tender emotions and feelings . anyway, its also something great to us to hear that people like you are still there and share with us our pain and suffering.May God bless you.