Just-released New York 2009 report: Hate crimes against Jews: 251. Hate crimes against Muslims: 11.

lol, trying to use the EDL to build credibility. Have you seen any of their demonstrations?

There are some things I've leraned only recently about some of the Arab population in Israel, including some of the Muslims. I thought nearly all of the Arabs in Israel with few exceptions hate us, hate the state, want it replaced with an Arab state and will join the enemy at the first oppurtunity, that is when the chance to destroy Israel will become more realistic. You hardly ever hear them say anything good about Israel. What you hear 99.9% of the time is hate, attacks, incitement, complaints and threats of revolts. And there was a CHRISTIAN Arab Knesset member, Azmi Bishara, who gave sensitive confidential information to HIZBALLAH. He's a radical Arab nationalist (who, BTW, denied the existence of a Palestinian People and sees Israel as southern Syria). I assume in the western media he was described as a brave leftist Arab reformer since to today's "liberals" extremist pan-Arab nationalists are "leftist". The Druze serve in the army, but you hear extremist stuff even from Druze.

What I realized recently is that pro-Israel Arabs are often scared to voice their support. I had no idea how initimidated they felt. I never thought such fear to express oneself existed here. They are certainly not scared to say the worst things about Israel, Jews, the government. I thought they felt completely free to say whatever they want. After all, there are also Arabs, even if very few Arabs, who defiantly hang the Israeli flag in their homes, so I didn't think anyone was scared.

But a series of small incidents lately made me more aware of that.

One was a TV program about some Arabs in Israel, probably tens of thousands, who claim their ancestors were Jews who were forced to convert to Islam. Including an entire Bedouin tribe of about 5-8,000 people who claim they are still Jewish. They claim the women in their tribe kept the Jewish traditions going in secret. The man interviewed had a mezuzah, a religious artifact Jews hang in the enternce of their homes, hidden under a chair, attached to the bottom of the seat. That wasn't much of a surprise to anyone who knows the genetic research in the local populations since there are genetic evidence that some of the "Palestinians" are of a Jewish origin (according to the prevalence of the Cohen haplotype). The odd thing was that the participants agreed to be interviewed only under condition of anonimity. This is strange since this is a Jewish state, it is majority Jewish, the majority in the authorities are Jews, so why should any Israeli citizen be afraid to say he believes his ancestors were Jews?

Then there was the video I posted here of an Israeli Arab, a Druze, who expressed support in Israel and said to westerners and even Arabs (in Arabic) to support Israel. He expressed twice a fear of being killed for what he said. He also said his Christian and Muslim friends lie because they're afraid that one day this country will diasappear and their brothers from the Arab countries around will come here and kill them.

Then there was an Israeli Christian Arab who wrote about it in a forum. To my surprise he said he sees himself first as a Christian, then as an Israeli and only then as an Arab. He said he doesn't understand the Christians in Israel who say they support Hamas and are against Israel. He said they suck up to the Muslims because they're scared of them. He also said there are Muslim gangs who harras them and the Israeli police does nothing.

The Israeli police effectively abandoned certain areas in Israel. It's not only Christians who suffer, but also Jews. I think Israel effectively let the radicals take over the Arab population - a combination of fear of large scale riots if they'll interfere in an already volatile situation, and of multiculturalism and staying out of Arab business which effectively let the Islamic radicals and PLO supporters/agents take over much of the education system and incite the population with false conspiracy theories. Today 40% of the Arabs in Israel believe the holocaust never happened.

Do white people report an attact on them as being a hatecrime.? do the police record it as such?

I have no idea, but I assume not every attack on blacks or Jews or Muslims is reported and recorded as a hate crime either. There are particular indications. If a non-white attacks a white it's not necessarily a hate crime, it could have various other motives. But if the attacker doesn't know the victim and says something like "filthy white trash" while attacking him then this is obviously a hate crime.

Good point. According to this article there are more than half a million Muslims living in New York City (couldn't find the number for the state). According to Wikipedia the number of Jews in New York City is between 1,750,000 to 2,028,200 (different estimates). So let's say there are 4 times as many Jews as Muslims in New York City. As for the State of New York, according to Wikipedia 8.4% are Jews and 3.5% are Muslims - going by these figures, in relative terms there are about 10 times as many crimes against Jews as against Muslims.

Here is a link to youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNq6Ps901J4&feature=related

That Youtube stream features a disturbing video. The recruiting starts early, even at two years of age.

*Brainwashed little Muslim girl*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg3m3t87-dk&feature=related

Of note...

@ :43:

Who are strucked by Allah's wrath?

The Jews

###

@ :46:

Who are the misguided?

The Christians

~~~

This year's first fruits of jihad seem to indicate that the misguided are also the dead in Allah's global soul-lust.

Thanks for the tip about the Wiki figures, D&G.

So, by combining the percentages and figures from Wiki and those from my Almanac (admittedly for 2007, but close enough for government work), we get:

-----population-----"hate crimes"-----rate per 100,000
----total 19,300,000-----683---------------3.5
----Jewish 1,760,000-----251--------------14.3
----Moslem 680,000------11---------------0.6
----Black 3,340,000-----144---------------4.3
non-Black 15,960,000-----539---------------3.0

So Jews suffer hate crimes nearly 24 times as frequently as Moslems; and the general population nearly 6 times as frequently. Looks like Moslems run dead last in the victimhood standings.

Doom and Gloom, please keep posting these anecdotes!

i find them extremely vakluable and you can seldom this flvour of a country's people elsewhere!

have you thought of posting them as well on Israellycool.com?

best wishes.

Carpediadem

re. the Muslim Arab jihadist thugs' creation of 'no go' areas *within Israel*, where the police fear to go and where Jewish and Christian and secular Israelis are intimidated...

I don't know whether you read all the threads here from beginning to end, so you may have missed my flagging of two articles by Caroline Glick on the subject of the 'New Israeli Guardsmen'.

This article first appeared in Jerusalem Post early in 2008. I found it deeply disturbing, but also I saw in it a small glimmer of hope.

http://www.carolineglick.com/e/2008/03/the-new-guardians-of-israel.php

The New Guardians of Israel
March 25, 2008, 12:07 AM

And here is the sequel:

http://www.carolineglick.com/e/2008/05/how-to-support-the-new-israeli.php

How to support the New Israeli Guardsmen

I think Jews here, from the diaspora, and all jihad-aware Gentiles, might feel inclined to explore the links provided by Ms Glick, or to get in touch with her, and make some small contribution, as budget permits, to the Resistance.

I think there may be lessons in these two stories for citizens of *all* majority-nonMuslim societies with a largeish Mohammedan colony within their territory, who find themselves encountering persistent and gradually escalating district-level, village-level or street-level Jihad; that is, continual push-push-pushing of the boundaries by an aggressive percentage of the Mohammedan Mob...who somehow are never adequately restrained by the *rest* of the Mob, and thus the Mob as a whole, while its projected power grows and grows, is able to deploy 'plausible deniability'.

Apologies. My final paragraph was badly phrased.

"...street-level Jihad; that is, continual push-push-pushing of the boundaries by an aggressive percentage of the Mohammedan Mob...who somehow are never seriously restrained by the *rest* of the Mob even while some or even many others in that Mob may pretend to deplore, or dissociate themselves from, what the aggressive ones are doing."

And as for the way Islam works, to control its own as well as to terrorise and parasitise outsiders, there's a humble blogger who I think has come up with an interesting analysis:


http://islamsfatalflaw.blogspot.com/

Monday, January 5, 2009

Why Islam is different

by Bob Smith
bob311w9@yahoo.com

"...Islamic society is caught up in a self-replicating, endless cycle of violence and fear, driven by its most devout believers.

"The cycle goes like this.

"The Violence

"Each generation’s most devout believers train a small percentage of the next generation’s most devout believers that it is OK to commit violence in the name of Islam.

"This becomes an endless cycle because, part of this training includes instructions to kill anyone who tries to modify or stop the teaching of this violence.

"The Fear

"Because

(1) these potential killers are trained everywhere within Islam and evenly distributed throughout the greater Islamic population (ummah) and

(2) because they cannot be easily identified, it means

**any devout believer anywhere could be the next killer** {my emphasis added - dda}

"Every Muslim is aware of this potential threat (fear) from these most devout believers.

"As a result all Muslims suffer from the same fear that drives the system.

"The violence and fear created by these devout believers has a profound effect on Islam.

"It is at the core of what Islam has become.

"The violence/fear cycle is responsible for all the irregularities of Islamic society.

"It is why Muslims seem so pious (fear of a negative response from the most devout believers). It is why Muslims don’t leave the faith and why they don’t integrate when they emigrate.

(The killers are trained to kill anyone who leaves the faith).

"It is why moderate Muslims never speak up

(the killers are trained to kill anyone who questions the faith).

"It is why Muslims from Morocco to the Philippines riot over a handful of cartoons or a simple comment from the Pope. (The killers riot and others go along in order to look pious.)

"This violence/fear cycle leaves a deep psychic scar on Muslim society and is responsible for what Islam is.

"Understanding this violence/fear system is the ultimate key to understanding Islam. "

And so on.

Nonie Darwish in her book on Sharia, 'Cruel and Usual Punishment', makes exactly the same point - she calls the killers 'allah's enforcers'.

One also wonders who are the perpetrators of hate crimes against Jews. I would suspect Muslims would be disproportionately involved in those crimes. I recall a June 2010 incident in Ottawa in which a Jewish student from Israel visiting Carlton university and his friend attacked and chased by Muslim men one of whom wielding machete.

Was that incident covered here at jihadwatch?

If it wasn't - do you have a link?

No need.

I just employed google and discovered that yes, the incident *was* covered here at jihadwatch.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/canada-muslims-attack-israel-supporters-with-machete.html

Very nasty.