Obama condemns Egypt church attack without naming perpetrators, says Muslims were injured also

Yet he admits that "the perpetrators of this attack were clearly targeting Christian worshipers," so why go out of his way to point out that Muslims were injured also? Why the endless moral equivalence and obfuscation of the fact that Muslims perpetrated the attack...
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Indeed. Any mention of Obama's "solidarity" with the victims of the Christmas Eve church bombings in Nigeria and the Philippines? Perhaps there were no stray Muslim victims in these last two attacks, so probably not...

If he was an honest person he would say something like - Orthodox moslems, practising pure islam and following the example of their alleged prophet mohammed today slaughtered 21 Christians, recklessly injuring some of their own in the process. Of course he won't, he is a liar.

"Why the endless moral equivalence and obfuscation of the fact that Muslims perpetrated the attack, and did so in the name of Islam and in order to wage jihad for the spread and strengthening of Islam?"

Because he's a Muslim and a Muslim sympathizer.

The United States extends its deepest condolences to the families of those killed and to the wounded in both of these attacks ...

Which, with a buck or so, will get you a box of Kleenex to wipe your eyes with.

... and we stand with the Nigerian and Egyptian people at this difficult time.

Should read: ... and we stand to the side, twiddling our collective thumbs and watching Nigerian and Egytpian Christians suffer the savagery of our Muslim pets in this difficult time.

Obama will never acknowledge that there are now ex-Muslims who know Islam inside and out, as well as any believing Islam Expert.

And their opinion that there is a clear motivation out from Islamic texts to terrorists like this, even including Islamic clerics who give their blessing to it.

He cannot begin to exhort the MUSLIMS to do something meaningful in response to this very big MALFUNCTION of the Islamic guiding texts.

He cannot somehow exhort Muslims to change something, if not in texts, then in interpretation of them. Or of demanding conditions on membership of the Ummah or some other organisation that allows real clear strong distancing from terrorists and oppressors among the Muslims.

And allying themselves uneguivocably with the victims over fellow Muslims.

Nooooooo, he rather denies ANY responsibility of Muslims for clinging to problematic unchangeable Islamic texts. And allowing, and thus associating with, killers inside Islam's community to which Muslims are supposed to be the most loyal to, over loyalty to their nation or innocent fellow-humans.

Irrespective of whether Obama is complicit or ignorant, the one thing that is a guarantee is that he will never speak truth about Islam. If complicit, then continued deception can be counted on and if ignorant, his is an extensive, boundless ignorance for which there is no corrective. Either way, accurate assessments of Islam will never issue forth from him.

"... barbaric and heinous act ..." Hold on there Mr. President. I do hope you don't mean to suggest that shari'ah is barbaric.

To the mind of the jihad-ninjas, the Copts are not innocent. The dhimmah is a contract. According to all four schools of Sunni law, if the dhimmi community breaks any provision of that contract, their blood and property are no longer protected. In practical terms, this means: the men may be killed; the women and children may be enslaved; their property becomes spoils.

JCL

Hussein Obama bin Laden will never condemn the "Religion of Peace" for the ongoing genocide against Christians.

"Why the endless moral equivalence and obfuscation of the fact that Muslims perpetrated the attack, and did so in the name of Islam and in order to wage jihad for the spread and strengthening of Islam?

Simply because PC/MC warps the mind and perverts a man or woman's sense of logic and morality.

If Obama was seriously against it, he'd have equated it w/ black church burnings, including the ones in Clinton's imagination in AR

"But the promise exists for all who come to America. And that includes nearly seven million American Muslims in our country today". (1.19-1.29).

"There is a mosque in all fifty stats of our union; and over 1200 mosques within our borders". (1.51-1.59).

"Let there be no doubt (applause), Islam is a part of America" (2.10-2.21).

"Our problems must be solved through partnership. Our progress must be shared. (applause)" (5.00-5.12)

Finally, US Commander-in-chief declares:
"In An-Qurah, I made it clear that America is not and NEVER will ber at war with Islam". (laud and long applause) (5.52-6.04)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOrCOfPHfmU

I'm sick to death of this shill for islam.
Even if this gets me banned I have to say it, I'd like to slap that smarmy, smug grin right the hell off his face .

Obama is clearly complicit. He is attempting to imply that some of the 21 killed were Muslim, when in fact all 21 were Christian.

B. H. Obama: "Muslims were injured also"

That amounts to exonerating Islam with every attack by a violent Muslim activist. For the simple reason that there's always at least one Muslim injured or, most probably, killed: Mr (or Mrs, let's not forget the ladies) jihadist him(or her)self.

Kind regs from Amsterdam,
Sag.

The only Muslims who might have been injured were those planting the bombs. Obama is the terrorists shrill, constantly aiding the Jihad and undermining allies like Israel. But sadly he isn't the only one. George Bush II also undermined the Israelis five years ago when Hezbollah shelled Northern Israel.

I think this guy could negotiate with Egypt government to create an autonomous region for the Coptic peoples! just like the Americans did in Kosovo. Is it too hard? maybe....

Obamanation has to be most disgusting POTUS, he will rival Carter as the worst, which is a feat in itself. oh how 2012 is so important~

The background of this massacre is an outrage that Muslims committed, shifted the blame to the victims and punished them for it anyway in typical savage Mohammedan fashion.
It is no secret to the informed that many Coptic girls and their families are victims of an organized campaign for kidnapping of young Coptic teens, raping them and forcibly Islamizing them with the assistance of the police who threatens the families into silence while the girls linger on as concubines pressed into sexual slavery and horrific abuse by their masters and their families. The last stat I read in a Coptic magazine estimated based on parental reports to the church and other sources that this happens to about 3 Coptic girls on average a day or over a thousand girls each year and this atrocity is growing fast as the operation expands and gets more sophisticated.

Recently, they upped the ante, and several married Coptic women and even several wives of priests have been kidnapped, raped and video taped to be shamed into conversion and marriage to one of their abductors as per Sharia a married woman who converts to Islam is automatically divorced from her Kafir husband. The most infamous case and the source of Alqeda’s pretext for this horrific massacre is that of a wife of a Coptic priest, the late Mrs Camellia Shehata, who was kidnapped a couple years ago by a co-worker with the assistance of the local Jamm’iia Shar’iia (a government sanctioned, funded and controlled Islamic group that operates in mosques and are permitted to strike only at the Copts and is used as a counter-balance against Islamic groups hostile to the state). Inside sources close to the church claimed that she was drugged, was subjected to rape and severe coercion to force her to proclaim that she willingly converted. However, this did not work out so well when they finally brought her before the authorities to announce her conversion. Also, in a rare display of daring against the brutality of Mohamed Hosni Mubarak’s security forces, the Copts vigorously but peacefully protested and showed uncommon courage against an onslaught by interior ministry central security forces that attacked them inside the grounds of the Papal residence in Cairo with outmost brutality. Despite the horrors that Mrs. Camelia Shehata was subjected to, when she was brought by a group of big framed bearded fanatics in Islamic garb who were chanting Allahu Akbar to maintain the psychological hold and frighten her into saying that she willingly converted in front of the state prosecutors, the lady who was middle aged and a mother of two grown children, said that she was born a Christian and will die one. The state authorities had no choice as she said that in front of the church representative but to release her to leave with them. The church found shelter for her in a nunnery when it became clear that she can never return to her normal life and she needed protection as both the authorities and the Jamm’iia were out for blood. Not to be undone, Muslim groups circulated a fiction that the Islamic media and the net picked up that the church forced the government to hand her over to be imprisoned in a monastery and subjected to cruel torture to renounce Islam. Yes, the same Church authorities who cannot get a toilet in a church repaired without presidential approval (absolutely no kidding here). The horrors that this poor woman was subjected to and the constant fear that the Muslims can take her at any time must have took too heavy a toll on her health. Finally, Mrs. Shehata succumbed and passed away some time after she sheltered in the nunnery. After her death the Muslims proclaimed her a martyr who died a defiant believer under severe torture inflicted by sadistic Coptic clergymen and demanded a heavy retribution. Youtube has many videos posted by Muslims on the subject and the overwhelming majority of Egyptian Muslims, including the so called liberal ones, believe the same tale as Alqeda. If fact, Muslims from all over the world, including the US and Western countries have joined in condemning the Copts and calling for their blood.

I shall expand on this facet of the ethnic cleansing perpetrated by the Muslim Egyptian state officials and the civilian Muslim majority, which are supposedly moderates and friends of the US. Most Copts not only face discrimination, they are hounded in every sphere of life to make their lives as intolerable and as insecure as possible. Most Copts today who are not lucky enough to be shielded by good fortune of where they work and live face constant taunts and humiliations as proscribed in the Shari’a and it is getting worst everyday. Perhaps 50 – 200 Copts are killed and injured every year in so called sectarian incidents that receive some media attention, but many more Copts are killed individually by Muslims which are either classified as disputes or accidents. Also, for many years since the reign of the evil Sadat, Coptic religious tour buses, Coptic business men and clergy die in mysterious accidents when their vehicles end up falling into irrigation canals flanking Egyptian highways. A Coptic priest who survived while his entire family perished claimed that he was forced off the road into the irrigation ditch by a vehicle that was tailing him. Coptic businesses, factories and other establishments are routinely targeted by arsonists. Some have rebuilt several times. Coptic businesses face organized boycotts that are announced from mosques, circulated in pamphlets, on the web and by word of mouth. The Jewelry business was until recently a Coptic dominated industry, employing many Copts who would have no other way of earning a living in such a society. Curiously, Copts inherited that industry when Egyptian Jews handed it over to their Coptic workers when they were kicked out of Egypt during Nasser’s era or when some of them escaped when German troupes appeared close to overrunning the country during WWII. Rich gulf Arabs and Muslim Egyptian businessmen conspired to undermine Coptic control of that industry by importing cheap Pakistani goldsmiths and building gigantic jewelry factories, wholesale distributors and retailers that out-competed the small family owned Coptic stores. Many Coptic jewelry stores were armed robbed and their owners massacred by Ayman Zawheri’s old Jihad group, the proceeds from one such robbery paid for the guns and bullets that killed Sadat.

The Copts are under siege economically, are subjected to constant liable, mob violence, police attacks and highly organized campaign designed to demoralize them in order to force a gradual exodus and an increasing rate of conversion by desperate Copts who no other viable option.

I had a friend who was forced to go back to hell in Egypt when his asylum case rejected. I personally know of many more such cases. The federal courts are full of evil leftist judges and employ a large number of Muslims as interpreters and staff, consequently they have been entirely hostile to Coptic asylum seekers, especially that the state department claims that the Egyptian state does not officially persecutes Copts. Copts are forced to show tangible proof. Would a university that rejected a qualified Coptic applicant because of his religious affiliation give him a letter stating as much? Would all the Shar’ia banks and all business owned by Gulf Arabs and other pious Egytian Muslims that have no Copts hiring policies give a sworn affidavit to that? Would the majority of Muslim consumers in a neighborhood that boycotted a Coptic shopkeeper, destroying his livelihood, get together to sign a document that he can show in a hearing? Would the Police and Egyptian courts, complacent in the campaigns rape, murder and mayhem ravaging the Copts give official documents to that effect?

However, Bushy and OBamy have brought unprecedented number of Muslims to the US who will breed and in a few short decades changing the US forever. I came to the US as a teen, served as a United States DoD Uniformed Services Civilian for a year in Iraq, and I am currently employed in vocation that helps our troops to survive enemy attacks. The day that I took my US visa at the US embassy in Cairo, a hundred Muslims did so. I doubt that many or even any of those are loyal to the US.

The sad story of my race has been written by their blood. Perhaps by the end of the century the last vestiges of the true Egyptian people would be expunged forever.

Actually, maybe Obama was politically shrewd to mention that Muslims were injured too. After all, if it's only Christians who were victims, you can bet that about 96% of the world's Muslims would approve of the attack. However, if they thought that Muslims were also injured, you might get that figure down to 92% or so. It's wonderful progress, I tell ya!

But all joking aside, apart from it just being the usual multicultural drivel that comes from Obama, I might argue that this shows that even he subconsciously understands and accepts that the Islam and the Muslim world doesn't have any inherent concern or compassion for Christians, but if tells them that Muslims were victims too, then maybe they'll support his position. It's the same reason he has to mention that there were Muslim victims of 9/11---deep down he knows the truth that all of us vile Islamophobes know: if Christians are the only victims, the Muslim world isn't going to be outraged or concerned.

Not to belabor the point, but this brings to mind the great deal of Orwellian double-think that goes on in the minds of many leftist/multiculturalist. I'm on another forum where I often have long debates with this lefty European guy. Especially pursuant to Europe and the French riots, he would argue till the cows came home that Islam had nothing to do with the integration problems, it was all due to socio-economic and racist discrimination, and that there was nothing at all inherent in Islam that made it incompatible with democracy. But then he let it slip in one post when he said "you'd be having the same problems in the US if your immigrants were Muslim instead of Hispanic." So on some level, of course he knows that Islam is the problem---but his ideology won't let him consciously accept and deal with this idea. I think that's the case for many on the left.

Did any Christian Copts cover Mahoundian body parts with newspaper then step on them shouting 'Jesus saves'?

I guess the Mahoundian cover up for Islam artist, missed that one, or he would have mentioned it...

"so why go out of his way to point out that Muslims were injured also".....

One word, made up by myself in 2007, 'bout says it all, no?

ISLAMOCOMMIE

For the sake of argument I am going to accept that Obama is not a Muslim. What could possibly be his reasoning for not mentioning who in fact the perpetrators of this mass murder were and what ideological process drove them to commit this heinous act?

I am going to start off with the premise of fear. Governments are finding themselves paralyzed by the islamic tactic of terror. Criticize anything islam and watch the muslim borg go into a frenzy. In order to prevent further hatred by the islamic world of all things American the government buries its head in the sand and pretends that there is no ideological reason for the hatred exhibited by the islamic world.

Political correctness runs amuck amongst the political elite. To criticize islam goes against the religion of political correctness. The political correctness theology dictates that criticizing anything except Christianity is verboten. Therefore to admit to the masses that muslims are indeed acting in heinous ways sanctified, and indeed demanded, by their pseudo-religion islam would be an admission that there are serious issues within islam; once again raising the collective hackles of the islamic borg encouraging them to engage in the islamic law endorsed tactic of terrorism.

Now I will change the argument and assume Obama is a muslim. Obama would know that to go against his muslim brethren would be in violation of islamic law. To admit to infidels that islam is ever wrong, even more so in islams battle against the kaffir, would be a grave sin. In the islamic world the ummah is never wrong in its battle against the infidel and Obama will carry that torch to his dying breath.

Then again maybe all of my speculation and theories are wrong and Obama is just another progressive idiot who doesn't know any better.

http://americaninfidel.org

The Egyptians Muslims bombed the church as the Koran urges them to kill the Jews,christians,and infidels ,if they refuse 3 times to convert to Islam.They are also urged to kill the apostates from Islam and the women who dishonred their families.

Therefore,it will help, if we print a billion Korans or make available over the Internet the Koran and the Hadith, so all of mankind ,especially women, can read for themselves
what the Koran and the Hadith have in store for them.

The most effective weapons against Islam are the Koran and the Hadith.If all people would read them ,they would get disgusted with Islam and Islam would collapse

Unfortunately for us, the true word of the real God, found in the Bible, has a truism from God, "raise up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it." It works for the good and the evil. Obama was indoctrinated in the 'Islam faith' (which I personally believe is worship of the devil) at an early age--he will not depart from it! His lame lie that he is a Christan is just that. It's funny--I can't help but remember the wisdom of Groucho Marx, "what are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes!" What I dread seeing is another two years of pandering to Islam, refusing to say openly 'this is a dangerous, deadly ideology! People did the same thing with the rise of Hitler in the 30's.

I don't for a second believe that Obama is a Muslim. Obama, from head to toe, with every fiber of his being, is a post-modern Western multiculturalist/cultural relativist---a pseudo-intellectual empty suit who vaguely adheres to whatever fashionable left-wing, anti-Western ideology he's most recently been exposed to, and who would gladly abandon or reverse any of his positions instantly in the name of personal or political expediency.

Obama starts off his campaign for American Dhimmi of the Year 2011 with a BANG!!

"Killing innocent civilians who were simply gathering - like so many people around the world - to celebrate the beginning of a New Year further demonstrates the bankrupt vision of those who carry out these attacks . . ."

In any war it's normal that "friendlies" get hurt or killed. In this case, the friendlies were the few muslims, but no worries--they get to go to paradise because they are of the right religion, and they can prove it--the koran says so. The biggest danger to our time is our appeasement of this barbaric cult. What's it going to take for North America to wake up; for Europe to fall completely into the dark ages? I am amazed that liberals call those of us who oppose this obvious problem, racists. They have bought the CAIR package sold to them. Islamophobic was a term created by them, which was based on our primal guilt--we need to get over that too, if we want to survive this.
I cannot imagine what will happen if Hussein gets elected again. I really can't.

hey wait, that makes obama an apostate. you know what that means--how come there isn't a fatwa on his head?

"He defends and praises Islam every chance he gets. He never says a word about Christianity or Jesus. He attends Ramadan events, but never Christian events, or any Church."

Yeah but come on, that applies to 75% of the Democrats in the US, too. :)

He is saying these attacks are the cover for which he is giving aid, aid to countries which accommodate such jihad. Ironic that Bush made a declaration that we were at war with the countries who facilitate terrorism, yet our troops have only gone into Iraq and Afghanistan and then only to set up Islamic democracy (i.e. Sharia law) and solidified their prominence and role in the global jihad (i.e. weakening our troops).

If he was a Muslim he wouldn't deny he was a Muslim and declare himself to be a Christian, he wouldn't support gay rights and womens' rights, and abortion rights. Can you name any other devout Muslim that does those things?

Obama is an appeasing, spineless, leftwing, secular/atheist/multiculturalist/cultural relativist through and through. End of story.

Your President seems greatly concerned that some Muslims were injured also. This is perhaps what makes the whole incident so tragic.

If only no Muslims had been injured and a few more Christians killed and grievously injured it would have been perfect.

The anointed one is unable to mention the Christian victims in a sentence without paying homage to his muslim pals at the same time. I find that disgusting and revealing. The amount of time it has taken for him to even broach the subject of the forced Christian cleansing from the middle east is revolting. Most of us see through his phony attempts to "soothe" disgruntled American Christian voters.

My first questions is "Were Muslims really injured in the attack?" If they were, then my second question is "What were Muslims doing outside of a Christian church at 12:00 a.m.? I think they just wanted to watch the bomb go off, and got too close. My point of view is that I don't believe Muslims were injured, but even if they were I don't believe they were innocent bystanders. Did anyone bother to investigate from this point of view? Its like making innocent victims out of bank robbers in the process of casing a bank who happen to get shot because a second set of bank robbers subsequently comes in and starts shooting. Its incredible that our President thinks we are so stupid.