“People picture Muslims with a Quran in one hand and a sword in the other”

This was just another story about just another interfaith gathering in which just another imam explains that terrorism and violence have nothing to do with Islam, and that only greasy Islamophobes think otherwise: “Faith symposium promotes peace: Religious leaders meet to discuss building bridges to understanding,” by Bryan Fitzgerald for the Times Union, January 31.

In the course of it, there is this gem:

“People picture Muslims with a Quran in one hand and a sword in the other,” Naseem Mahdi, vice president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, said.

Hmm. Now why might “people” do that? Is it the influence of venomous Orientalists, bent on defaming Islam? Or might Muslims have something to do with people getting such a picture in their minds?

Let’s look at the record. Are any of the people in the following pictures Islamophobes? Orientalists? Who in fact is responsible for non-Muslims getting the idea that the Qur’an has something to do with violence?

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Oh, he said “sword,” didn’t he? Very well:

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Will the Islamophobia never end?

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  1. says

    Well, I’m racking my brains, Robert! Why indeeed…

    In all fairness, the man who said this is an Ahmadiyya. For anyone who doesn’t know, Ahmaddiyas are considered heretics by other Muslims, and they reject the concept of violent jihad. Ahmaddiyas (in the UK at least) contribute a lot to UK charities and believe in contributing to the wider British community rather than staying apart, or trying to take over. Their motto is ‘love for all, hatred for none’. I’d say that on the whole they are the most peaceful Muslims. If all Muslims were Ahmaddiyas, I don’t believe we’d have the problems that we currently face with Islam. So the ‘sword in one hand, Koran in the other’ picture doesn’t quite fit them.

    The sad thing is, in London they have been persecuted by the wider Muslim community because they are seen as heretics by the vast majority – who really *do* fit the ‘sword in one hand, Koran in the other’ picture.

  2. says

    Cue Islamic apologist;

    “Why those are just novelty cigarette lighters! And the guy in the last pic…..that’s a letter opener! Why do you kuffar take everything out of context??”

    But these poses somehow work with the Qu’ran. The AK is complimentary element in the pictures theme. I can’t imagine anyone holding the Bible with a claymore in the other hand.

  3. says

    These “faith symposiums”, “interfaith meetings”: Again, Christians are the ones who are ignorant of the facts, so they must be told. We are foolish enough to attend such propaganda meetings and be belittled for our foolish concerns over Islam and its bent to violence, and be taught to believe their lies. The fact that a non-Muslim would attend such a meeting is enough to bring him into submission. If one genuinely wants to find out the truth about Islam, research a little on your own by reading a history book written before Islam had an opportunity to change anything or some material by Robert Spencer. If you do not know the truth, there is no one to blame.

  4. says

    “People picture Muslims with a Quran in one hand and a sword in the other,” Naseem Mahdi, vice president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, said.

    could this be the “Naseem” who used to post on JW? And, she claimed to be an Ahmadiyya.

  5. says

    Obviously, the sword has been replaced by the AK47. It seems to be the universal islamic weapon of choice. Before the advent of the AK, during WWII the Germans would occasionally leave caches of Russian ammunition on the battlefield when they were retreating. Some of the cartridges in each box would have the ball powder replaced with high explosive. This would destroy the weapon and kill or injure the rifleman. Why aren’t we doing this all over the world. I suppose the objection is that our local allies also use the AK. So what? Those guys aren’t too friendly to us anyway. Discipline would solve the ammo problem among our “friends”. And Darwin will sort it all out in the end.

  6. says

    What you need to understand is that THAT community of Muslims, the Ahmadiyya, is not recognized by fanatical Muslims, in fact they are murdered all over the world. Fact check on it.

    They believe that THEIR prophet who came AFTER Mohammad had further revelation from God and that it was to live in peace with everyone.

  7. says

    Gee, its almost like someone’s been collecting all these images to give Islam a bad name….

    And what’s that about the Ahmadiyya?

    Do they read another Koran? Do they reject child marriage, polygamy, FGM, wife-beating and honor killings? Do they renounce jihad, terror and perpetual warfare against unbelievers until the world is Islamic?

    Did they rip the pages from the Koran where Jews are called apes and pigs and how do they ‘interpret’ kill the unbelievers wherever you find them?

    Just curious…..

  8. says

    Excellent gallery. Talk about one picture being worth a thousand words!

    For a history of how the Kalashnikov became so ubiquitous, see “The Gun,” by C.J. Chivers. An outstanding read.

  9. says

    Picture collection – good idea. More and more Mohammedan Apologists are running around claiming: “Media malicously draw a negative picture of Islam – they only portrait spikey, rocket-like minarets, black wrapped women, crescents, guns and qurans, often against a dark background. So they reduce islam to some symbols and demonize it.”

    Well – Islam does all that perfdectly by itself. Just look at the covers of the books at any islamic bookstore.

    Quran and Weapons: More pictures:

    1. What would we do without the Saudi flag (Shahada and Sword)?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Saudi_Arabia.svg

    2. Hamastan: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9SWihgUwVDw/TNXVPLbB3QI/AAAAAAAAAC4/vJyQowlCKBE/s1600/jihad+kid+with+quran+knife.jpg

    3. Islamistan: http://blog.naseeb.com/wp-content/uploads/2004/03/quran_gun.jpg

    4. Pakistan: http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03p81IY16kgum/610x.jpg

    5. Hamastan: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_utj_WiTT3tU/Sd88IhCZDsI/AAAAAAAABJI/bkUSOgzytFc/s400/KORAN+loons.jpg

  10. says

    But… an army of Muslims with AKs in the left hand and Korans in the right?

    This is surely a myth, as Bernard Lewis has argued. We’d have first to imagine a nation of left handed warriors, as no good Muslim would ever hold a Koran in the left hand.

    > jcl

  11. says

    Mahdi says he is weary of the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamic movement founded in Egypt which he fears may come into power if Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak steps down. Mahdi says the group is too extreme and would not provide a lifestyle any more favorable than that of Mubarak’s autocratic reign.

    “They would go from one extreme to the other,” he said. “I am praying for them, praying that they can come to peace.”

    Now why on earth would Mr. Mahdi “fear that the MB may come into power”….why would he worry whether the MB “can come to peace”. It almost sounds like Mr. Mahdi pictures the MB “with a Quran in one hand and a sword in the other”.

    Mr. Mahdi just needs to invite the MB to his next inter-faith meeting, discuss, and “build relationships with them” so he can get over his MB-phobia. It could be just that simple, yes?

  12. says

    According to Wikip, the Ahmadiyya are all with the six pillars of mo aside from the finality of mo’s claim on the seal . . What is shirk to Ahmadiyya is shirk to Sunni and Shiia. Same meat, different gravy.

  13. says

    And, all of those pix were made by Muslims for Muslims, to impress the Muslim masses with how powerful, manly, and ready the jihadis are.

    I just hope that if these Muhammadan Ku Kluxers provoke a world war, their enemies won’t rest until somebody barbecues pork in the ruins of the Ka’aba.

  14. says

    “People picture Muslims with a Quran in one hand and a sword in the other,” Naseem Mahdi, vice president of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, said.

    Ahmadiya & Naseem? Does that ring a bell, people, especially those who’ve been around long enough?

    Okay, people have the wrong picture. Muslims have a Qur’an in one hand and a rifle in the other!

  15. says

    The sword is even on the Saudi flag.

    Interesting how Islam associates itself with the sword. Give Christianity this, the martial gear item most often associated with it is .. the shield.

  16. says

    Thanks Bunty Hoven,

    In fact, Pakistan has a legislative decree that the Ahmadiyyas are not Muslims. Abdus Salaam, the first of only 4 Muslim Nobel Prize for science winners, and an Ahmadiyya, is buried in Pakistan. The regional governor had his grave marker defaced to erase the word “Muslim”.

    The question is, why do the Ahmaddiyas not distinguish themselves from the rest of the Muslims, and admit that indeed, the majority of Muslims support in some way, the idea of violent jihad?

  17. says

    Bunty Hoven wrote:

    In all fairness, the man who said this is an Ahmadiyya. For anyone who doesn’t know, Ahmaddiyas are considered heretics by other Muslims, and they reject the concept of violent jihad…

    If all Muslims were Ahmaddiyas, I don’t believe we’d have the problems that we currently face with Islam.

    Sheik Yer’Mami wrote:

    …And what’s that about the Ahmadiyya?

    Do they read another Koran? Do they reject child marriage, polygamy, FGM, wife-beating and honor killings? Do they renounce jihad, terror and perpetual warfare against unbelievers until the world is Islamic?

    Did they rip the pages from the Koran where Jews are called apes and pigs and how do they ‘interpret’ kill the unbelievers wherever you find them?

    Just curious…..
    ………………………..

    Well, that’s the conundrum with the Ahmadiyya. If *all* Muslims were Ahmadiyya, we probably wouldn’t have anything worse than a Da’wa problem. On the other hand, Ahmadiyya, while they do not subscribe to waging violent Jihad themselves”and are, as noted, brutally persecuted for this stance”are all to happy to obfuscate the true nature of Jihad for the Kufr. Just see the story above.

    The fact is, that while the Ahmadiyya do not practice violent Jihad, they hold every other goal of Islam”including the *imposition of savage Shari’ah law*.

    Unfortunately, the existence of the Ahmadiyyas just confuses the fact of the Jihad threat for hopeful “interfaith” Infidels, while not actually serving as any sort of brake on the Jihad imperative in the larger Muslim community.

    I’m sure a lot of people remember the awful “Naseem”, who used to post here, and promised “Shari’ah lite” to all the “Wuslims” who converted.

  18. says

    The sword is soooo passe to our modern jihadists. Got to have the AK. Very rugged weapon that can stand untrained morons (you know who you are – can’t shoot straight jihadists) using it.

    Your strategy of slipping a few explosive rounds into “found” seems to have an “Evolution in Action” feel to it. However, it will only kill the dumb jihadis. Yeah, I suppose they are all dumb in a certain way, but some are dumber than others.