At very least, a magnificent turban
Reality is always inconvenient for them. Remember, "slander" in Islamic law refers not to telling untruths about someone, but to saying something about someone else that he doesn't want known, even if it's true. That sums up the whole Islamic apologetic enterprise in the West, as well as the rage over this TV series. "A television series feeds tensions between secular and Islamist Turks," from The Economist, January 27:
SULTAN Suleiman the Magnificent, who earned his moniker for taking the Ottoman empire to the apogee of its glory in the mid-16th century, is widely regarded as sacred in Turkey. No matter that he had his own son murdered, among several dastardly deeds. Modern Turks like to boast of his armies reaching the gates of Vienna and to refer to him as the "lawgiver". A British historian, Jason Goodwin, writes that Suleiman was "majestic enough to stock his court with an unusual number of buffoons, dwarves, mutes, astrologers, and silent janissaries" and that he ruled so long "that he became something of an Ottoman Queen Victoria."In recent weeks Suleiman has been at the centre of a new row that pits secular Turks against Muslim conservatives. The cause was a televised drama series, replete with scenes from the royal baths and the harem, which chronicled Suleiman's military and sexual exploits. Pious Turks were incensed by scenes of Suleiman lusting over his most coveted queen, Roxelana, and drinking goblets of wine.
Bulent Arinc, deputy prime minister in the mildly Islamist Justice and Development (AK) government, called for the series to be scrapped. "It shows him in his harem, fond of drinking and in certain scenes that I cannot find words to express," Mr Arinc complained. Halit Ergenc, who played Suleiman, was inundated with hate mail and death threats.
The state media watchdog, RTUK, says that it has received a record number of complaints about the series. It even issued a warning to the channel responsible, Show TV, that it was clashing with the "national and moral values of our society". Members of the overtly Islamist Saadet party, chanting Allahu akbar ("Allah is great"), staged protests outside Show TV's headquarters in Istanbul. Yet, as Meral Okay, one of the scriptwriters, commented, "the children of the Sultan were not conceived by pollination...he did have a sex life and a family." At least the controversy boosted the show's ratings to record heights.
Fervent Islamists tout the Ottomans as the antithesis of Ataturk, who abolished both the Sultan and the caliphate. Moreover, in his last years Suleiman turned religious. Mr Goodwin writes that Suleiman "dined off earthenware platters, and fostered the triumph of Orthodox Islam...but when the Austrian ambassador took leave...it was scarcely a living being he described but a metaphor of empire rotting and majestic, fat, made up, and suffering from an ulcerous leg."
That's one helluva migraine! Poor chap.
The world’s Muslim population is expected to increase by about 35% in the next 20 years, rising from 1.6 billion in 2010 to 2.2 billion by 2030, according to new population projections by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life.
Globally, the Muslim population is forecast to grow at about twice the rate of the non-Muslim population over the next two decades – an average annual growth rate of 1.5% for Muslims, compared with 0.7% for non-Muslims. If current trends continue, Muslims will make up 26.4% of the world’s total projected population of 8.3 billion in 2030, up from 23.4% of the estimated 2010 world population of 6.9 billion.
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He seems to be a huge Turkish 'garlic' on his head OR is this also a part Sharia Deception (deceptive diversionary looks).
sorry correction needed;
He seems to be carrying a huge Turkish 'garlic' on his head OR is this also a part of Sharia Deception (deceptive diversionary looks).
Is he over compensating for something with that massive turban?
It is interesting to watch the internal consolidation occur as the Islamists powers and grow. It is typical that any totalitarian movement turns in upon itself to root out 'heretical elements'even as it expands beyond its borders. History is replete with barborous acts. In any event, we need to defend ourselves. Firstly stop islamic migration and root them out of western societies. Then sabotage their movements from within.
The painting was made during the great laundry-women's strike of 1539. The king was reduced to doing his own laundry, and he's shown on his way to the laundry-room.
UMMA: Islamic supremacists enraged over realistic PPS portrayal of Muhammad the Magnificent!!!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/12/perfect-man-of-islam.html
I think that thing on his head is a lice farm.
is this not a fine impression of a mekon
Remember that pic from reading in the Wikipedia about the Turk's defeat at the gates of Vienna. I do wish the secular citizens of modern Turkey good luck fighting the Erdogan, but I'm quite pessimistic about it.
Several posters have commented on Suleiman the Magnificent's outlandish turban—no one has mentioned the portrait itself.
This is a fine painting—surely this is a tribute to the status of the arts in Muslim Turkey at the time?
Uh—not so much. This piece is a copy of Titian's portrait of Suleiman, done by Titian's own workshop.
Despite its appearance, neither Titian nor—as far as is known—any other western artist ever actually came face to face with Suleiman. It must have been a bit of a challenge finding images (probably from coins/medals) to work from. By the way, most of those coins and medals were also designed by Italian craftsmen taking commissions from Constantinople.
So—this has almost *nothing* to do with Muslims, and everything to do with the wonders of the late European Renaissance.
The original was done for Federico Gonzaga around 1538, and subsequently disappeared around the time that many other Gonzaga paintings were bought by Charles I of England. This painting was shown in the 2002 blockbuster Gonzaga exhibition in Mantua, and is usually on show in Vienna at the Kunsthistorisches Museum, Schloss Ambras.
In other words, this piece of exotica has been appreciated by Italians, by the English, by Austrians, and—currently—by this American. Has it ever been appreciated by any Muslims? this is entirely less clear...
Not just the Turks, the Arabs and the whole Muslim society was drinking wine and other alcohol at that time. Remember the great Khalif Harun al—Rashid and Ma’mūn? they were both recorded as very good drinker and had several male partners. Yet the Islamic culture peaked during their rule! since then, Islam start to lose its tolerance and forgiveness.
Rusol wrote:
Not just the Turks, the Arabs and the whole Muslim society was drinking wine and other alcohol at that time. Remember the great Khalif Harun al—Rashid and Ma’mūn? they were both recorded as very good drinker and had several male partners. Yet the Islamic culture peaked during their rule! since then, Islam start to lose its tolerance and forgiveness.
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Blah blah blah. I really don't care whether certain Muslim rulers swilled alcohol and buggered small boys or not. Many Muslims rulers were lax in enforcing Shari'ah, and many others allowed themselves all sorts of indulgences while clamping down on their own subjects.
There are all sorts of legends about Harun al-Rashid, but it is known that he launched several Jihad campaigns against the Byzantine Infidels, and forced them to pay tribute.
He died while on one of his interminable campaigns to put down uprisings against his oppressive regime. He had a special hatred for Shi'ites and oppressed them mercilessly. He imprisoned the Shi'ite leader and probably had him killed there.
He may have had his own brother murdered, as well.
Ma’mūn was one of his sons, who waged a savage civil war against *his* brother al-Amin for control of the empire after their father's death.
He savagely put down a rebellion by Hindus in Sindh. He made constant slave raids against the Byzantines and other Christian kingdoms.
He offered the Byzantine Emperor the usual choices of "acknowledging divine unity, paying tax or fighting"—in other words, converting to Islam, paying Jizya or tribute, or death.
Al-Ma'mun made preparations for a major campaign against Byzantium and died on the way.
By the way, the Ulema gained a great deal of power during Al-Ma’mūn's reign, because they *considered him too lax* on protecting Islam against heresy.
As for Suleiman the Magnificent, he conquered the Christian strongholds of Belgrade, Rhodes, and most of Hungary.
The ambassador of the Holy Roman Empire to Istanbul was to note, "The capture of Belgrade was at the origin of the dramatic events which engulfed Hungary. It led to the death of King Louis, the capture of Buda, the occupation of Transylvania, the ruin of a flourishing kingdom and the fear of neighbouring nations that they would suffer the same fate..."
His conquests were finally checked at the Siege of Vienna in 1529.
He *did* issue a issued a Firman formally denouncing blood libels against the Jews—mostly because it was causing annoying problems for his personal physician, who was a Jew.
All in all, three models of "tolerance". According to a guy who calls himself "Rusol", in any case...
Ladies of Turkey, do not be deceived! The size of a man's turban has nothing to do with the size of his .................. "Hefner".
Uneasy lies the head that bears the massive turban, No wonder their doorways are kind of mushroom-shaped.
Dude nice turban. Big enough to hold a pair of cowboy boots, a Harley jacket, and blue jeans.
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We have a borough librarian where I live who writes a weekly article in the local newspaper. He specializes in fascinating bits and pieces of knowledge of the most amazing variety, and uses the story as a wrapper for discussing obscure etymologies and word meanings.
An article from last year illustrates his style, and incidentally relates to the subject of this story. I post the best parts of it below, and invite readers to ponder whether the ending contains a possible solution for resolving the ME conflict.
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"Travel books can take you to the lands of the Mongol Hordes"
by Greg XXXX
Apr 25, 2010
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Travel books move fast at the public library. They’re generally divided into two categories: travelogues and guidebooks. Guidebooks like Fodor’s and Lonesome Planet are written for travelers physically going to other places, and provide advice and suggestions about getting around.
Travelogues are accounts of other people’s adventures on the road, often written autobiographically. As Canadian Keath Fraser wrote in “Bad Trips” (“a collection of tales from poets, novelists, and journalists about the worst journeys they have ever taken”), “Bad journeys, it seems, lead straight to the confession box.” Travelogues are intended for armchair travelers who would rather experience the rigors of the road vicariously.
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Many of us believe true travel books are either nonfiction accounts of someone’s romantic, exciting or nasty adventures in an exotic location or they’re guidebooks to help future travelers along the same route.
William of Rubruck, a 13th century Franciscan priest, wrote both. Born in Flanders in A.D. 1220, William was a member of the French King Louis IX’s entourage during the Seventh Crusade of 1248. While in Constantinople, Louis heard about Genghis Khan and the Mongol Empire, and in May 1253 he dispatched William of Rubruck to call on the emperor of the Mongols. Genghis died in 1227, and his horde had been divided among his sons into the subsidiary hordes, the Blue, White and Golden Hordes. The Westernmost of the Mongol territories, the Golden Horde ruled from the Siberian Urals to the Danube, and visiting them was the first of Father William’s trials.
Traveling with a friend, a servant and an interpreter, William traveled 9,000 kilometers from the Golden Horde’s capital by the Volga River to the Great Khan’s capital at Karakorum, near the geographic center of modern Mongolia. There, Mangu Khan kept his horde and his hoard. The dictionaries agree that “hoard” is both a noun that means “a cache of something valuable,” and a verb that means “to accumulate, to keep secret.” A “horde,” on the other hand, is “any nomadic tribe, but specifically nomadic Mongol tribes of the 13th century or any group with a negative connotation, as in “I expect a horde of wasps this summer.”
William stayed at the Great Khan’s camp for eight months before beginning his journey home and reached crusader-controlled Tripoli 14 months later in 1255. Before leaving Mangu’s court, William participated in a debate the khan arranged between the Christian, Muslim and Buddhist clergymen. As Jack Weatherford wrote in “Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World,” a lot of alcohol was consumed, the Christians abandoned logic and began singing hymns, the Muslims tried to drown them out by reciting the Koran loudly and the Buddhists went into meditation. “At the end of the debate, unable to convert or kill one another, they concluded the way most Mongol celebrations concluded, with everyone simply too drunk to continue.”
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Yes, let us make light of Suleiman the Magnificent’s headdress:
Party host: “Sully, why not a lampshade?”
Airport security: “Sir, I’ve seen the Danish cartoon. I think you’re missing a fuse. Step this way, please.
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Imam: “You have earned a death fatwa for mocking Mohammed!”
Ornithologist: “You know, the male Bird of Paradise puffs up his chest in a remarkably similar manner during his mating dance.”
Parodying a Peter Sellers movie title: “There’s a Girl in my Turban!”
Suleiman: “I have just undergone brain surgery, and must wear this until my skull repairs and my hair grows back. Deuced inconvenient. Plays hell with my neck.”
Fashion critic in his column: “Mr. Suleiman delivered his State of the Empire speech looking like he was about to be consumed unawares by an Alien or a Body Snatcher.”
Garage mechanic: “Boy, do that guy’s tires need rebalancing!”
Roxelana: “Darling, darling, how much Viagra did you take?”
A photo of Suleiman attached to his application for membership in Mensa.
Passerby: “Sir, when is the balloon ascension?”
“Yet, as Meral Okay, one of the scriptwriters, commented, "the children of the Sultan were not conceived by pollination...he did have a sex life and a family." At least the controversy boosted the show's ratings to record heights.”
And wouldn’t you know it? Just like Christians partaking of something forbidden or scandalous on TV: the ratings soar.
Look-Ma-No-Hands-Laundry.
' Suleiman was "majestic enough to stock his court with an unusual number of buffoons, dwarves, mutes, astrologers, and silent janissaries"
not unlike todays Islamic leaders....