Afghans outraged at Taliban murders of civilians in bank

It isn't pointed out in this DPA story, but the victims of this attack were, of course, all Muslims. Outrage in Muslim countries against terrorism seems to flare up only when the victims are fellow Muslims, and so the attack appears to violate the Qur'an's command not to kill other Muslims (4:92). When it comes to murders of non-Muslims, these declarations that the attacks are un-Islamic come only from Islamic spokesmen in the West -- spokesmen who generally have ties of one kind or another to the Muslim Brotherhood or some other jihadist entity, which ties cast doubt on the sincerity of their declarations. The outrage we have seen in the Islamic world against cartoons of Muhammad, threatened burnings of the Qur'an, statements of the Pope, etc., have never been matched by any outrage against the Islamic jihad terrorists who have supposedly twisted and hijacked the Religion of Peace.

"Video of militant shooting civilians enrages Afghans," by Farhad Peikar for Deutsche Presse Agentur, February 23 (thanks to Twostellas):

Kabul - The increasing violence of the Taliban is failing to win the hearts and minds of many Afghans, as a video of a shooting in a bank has prompted calls for terrorists to be publicly executed.

Surveillance footage shot on Sunday in the Kabul Bank branch in Jalalabad, in the eastern province of Nangarhar, showed a man dressed in police uniform and six accomplices repeatedly shooting unarmed civilians.

In one of the clips broadcast late Tuesday, the bogus policeman is seen shooting two men in civilian clothes as they try to leave the bank, and then walking all around the room, firing indiscriminately at customers, staff and unarmed security personnel.

The attack triggered a standoff with police that lasted several hours and left 38 civilians, four security staff and six of the attackers dead. Afghan police arrested the remaining attacker in police uniform.

Tolo, an Afghan broadcaster, aired a report on Tuesday night which included the surveillance footage and an interview with the suspect, in which he said that the killing 'gave me pleasure.'

The attack came amid an increase in Taliban actions against civilians, as war-weary Afghans the length and breadth of the country struggle to see the Islamic justification for the violence.

'Believe me, I could not sleep last night after I saw the report on the Jalalabad attack,' said Abdul Qadir, 50, a carpenter in Kabul city. 'Those who are real Muslims, they never carry out suicide bombings against innocent and defenseless civilians, or women and children.'

Hussain Ali, a 60-year-old street porter in the capital, agreed. 'These attacks that the Taliban or whoever else carries out are un-Islamic and inhuman,' he said.

More than 100 people - mostly civilians - have been killed in a wave of suicide attacks in major cities in the past two weeks. The Taliban has claimed responsibility for all of them.

A farmer from the northern province of Kunduz, where the latest suicide bomber claimed 31 lives on Monday, said he had no sympathy for the insurgents.

'From what I heard from my elders and ulema (Islamic scholars), the killing of civilians has no justification in Islam or any other laws,' Mohammad Sardar said.

Hundreds of kilometres to the south, Kandahar city resident Mohammad Daoud expressed similar doubts. 'Islam says that the killing of one innocent person is like killing the whole of humanity, so I don't think these attackers are Muslims or know anything about Islam,' he said....

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'Those who are real Muslims, they never carry out suicide bombings against innocent and defenseless civilians, or women and children.'
In this case...may be, just may be Muhammad was not a real muslim after all!!!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/um-kerfa-oum-kerfa.html

The big question for Mohammed Daoud: Who is "innocent" in the eyes of Islam? Answer: Only those whio are beleivers of Mohammed's delusions! If you are not in the "house of Islam" you reside in the "HOUSE OF WAR"!

of course the other question is if they are not muslims killing muslims, who is to be blamed for these? Jews? Hindus? Jews? Christians? Jews? more Jews?

Well, there's some of the outrage I was wondering about in this posting:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/02/taliban-reportedly-shifting-focus-to-soft-targets.html

But, I think my original point stands:

"the Taliban are all but assured no productive level of outrage from Muslims in Afghanistan or elsewhere."

The keyword is "productive." Will the ISI say "that's it, guys, we're pulling the plug"? Will there be a popular uprising? A little Tahrir Square re-enactment against the Taliban? Will Muslims who want to "engage" the Taliban ("engagement" being the chief euphemism for doing business with thugs) think twice?

Above all: Will they throw them out of the mosques they are using as bases of operation?

Indeed, the "Muslim street" is still AWOL on this, even when Muslims are dying. But challenge Pakistan's blasphemy law, or set an ex-Muslim convert to Christianity free, and rest assured there will be a "Day of Rage" on the calendar of events.

.''.firing indiscrimately at customers, staff and UNARMED SECURITY personel''. . I wonder what our friend Undaunted would make of this sorry tale.

9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."

I might have some sympathy, but this is what Muslims sign up for. If it truly bothered these Afghans (and Muslims elsewhere) they would become apostates. Sure, there is an Islamic death penalty for apostasy, but remember - "Live free or die".

soory for my typos, SHOULD READ "only those who are believers" of mohammed's delusions

Kabul - The increasing violence of the Taliban is failing to win the hearts and minds of many Afghans...
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And what about our foreign aid, road and school building? So often it seems that this is not even in the running to "win the hearts and minds of many Afghans"—or many Muslims anywhere, for that matter.

More:

Tolo, an Afghan broadcaster, aired a report on Tuesday night which included the surveillance footage and an interview with the suspect, in which he said that the killing 'gave me pleasure.'
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Well, of course it did. He was, as he saw it, killing the "insufficiently Islamic"—who, along with "hypocrites" and "apostates" and other Kufr, deserve to be killed.

More:

The attack came amid an increase in Taliban actions against civilians, *as war-weary Afghans the length and breadth of the country struggle to see the Islamic justification for the violence*. [emphasis mine—GI]

'Believe me, I could not sleep last night after I saw the report on the Jalalabad attack,' said Abdul Qadir, 50, a carpenter in Kabul city. 'Those who are real Muslims, they never carry out suicide bombings against innocent and defenseless civilians, or women and children.'

Hussain Ali, a 60-year-old street porter in the capital, agreed. 'These attacks that the Taliban or whoever else carries out are un-Islamic and inhuman,' he said...

'From what I heard from my elders and ulema (Islamic scholars), the killing of civilians has no justification in Islam or any other laws,' Mohammad Sardar said.

Hundreds of kilometres to the south, Kandahar city resident Mohammad Daoud expressed similar doubts. 'Islam says that the killing of one innocent person is like killing the whole of humanity, so I don't think these attackers are Muslims or know anything about Islam,' he said....
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Notice the only issue here is *whether the killing is properly Islamic*. Not whether it is right or wrong, but whether it is allowed—or mandated—under Islam.

"I don't think these attackers are Muslims"—just as the Taliban regarded the victims at the bank as "insufficiently Islamic"—and so ipso facto Infidels, this Afghan in Kanadahar is declaring the Taliban gunmen "not Muslims".

Essentially the same thing is going on in places like Somalia, where thugs are busily declaring each other "un-Islamic", and happily murdering each other.

Notice, there would not be this degree of hand-wringing if the Taliban had been murdering American or NATO troops, or killing off the small remnant of Hindus left in the country, or killing Muslim converts to Christianity.

All that would have been, without reservation, quite Halal.

Getting a taste of your own medicine sure can suck.

"Hundreds of kilometres to the south, Kandahar city resident Mohammad Daoud expressed similar doubts. 'Islam says that the killing of one innocent person is like killing the whole of humanity, so I don't think these attackers are Muslims or know anything about Islam,' he said...."

Well actually they do...The bank had police guards and was the place where Muslim policemen went to cash their checks...and in the eyes of the Taliban, Muslim police are the enemy...apparently these Muslims were not Muslim enough.

There are several passages in the Koran that authorizes Muslim upon Muslim violence, here is but one:

'Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations"

One thing this modude was, was thorough. He's got every holyer than thou's muslims back, their 6's, covered to allow and encourage murder, anyone they judge, at will. Well now, that's sharia.

In islam cult, it's another of the complete and thourough opposite of any real world religion's concepts, that the real deity, God, will be the Judge, in His Own Time, and Place, and at his Own Wisdom, never in the true sacrilage judgement of an illiterate, little pathetic troll muslim.

It is only a matter of time before these uncivilized barbarians blame it all on the Jews.

i'll keep saying it.. lets hope these uprising leads to decades of this.

There is outrage because Muslims are promised (and expect) privilege and "honor" and plunder and domination and subjugation sex and impunity. That is what they sell their souls for in embracing Islam. Of course, the power struggle inherent in Islam ensures that only those in power can impose the "true" Islam, all the rest can be considered apostate for not supporting them. Might makes right in Islam.

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