I spent over three hours with one of Beck's producers a few days ago, providing information for this report on the caliphate dreams of Islamic supremacists worldwide, and how they're advancing country-by-country. So be sure to watch this -- Beck is really getting the nature and magnitude of the global jihad threat, and is working to wake up to America.
Glenn Beck on the spread of Islamic supremacism worldwide
Ha! I knew it. I’d been following Beck’s coverage of this last week, and I knew Robert’s input had to be informing it somehow.
Yes, Beck seems like he’s moving in the right direction. I like when he launched the week by pointing out that despite the avalanche of mainstream media coverage of this, anyone with common sense would still be left scratching their heads. So true. The mainstream media coverage simply doesn’t add up.
Glenn Becks tv show on Fox is the most effective media effort to spread the truth about islam and many other things. I salute him.
Good job, but most analysts I have seen put Sweden as the first European country expected to fall to Islam.
Holland, Denmark and Austria also have the government lawsuits against the freedom to speak out against Islam.
Yeah, but a liberal woman told me that Beck was nuts, and a liar...She laughed at the idea of a Caliphate, and said Beck had gone over the edge into fantasy and make believe... 'Islam is the Religion of Peace'...A Caliphate can't happen here...I asked her if she knew what a Caliphate was, she didn't know exactly, but she was sure we would never see one...She also told me that jihad was caused by Geo Bush who should be arrested...
Mauritania and Western Sahara should be green as well. Mali also. It is already Islamic,though secular like Niger and Senegal which is the least like to adopt sharia. Ethiopia is now 50% Islamic. A couple of weeks ago Ethiopian Muslims announced that everyone must convert or face death. Of course, they are not kidding.
Good presentation -- can't you just see the jaws drop all around the country when not only India but EUROPE go green? There will be yowlps of protest -- Western Europe in a caliphate? Beck's talking crazy! -- and then Beck, having been educated by Robert about the facts of caliphate as applied to prostrate dhimmi PC/MC-ridden socialist states, gets to plant the seed of apprehension that will grow with every new crisis.
One question they are sure to ask: What happens when They control All the oil? (What DOES happen when They control all the oil, btw?)
For those who haven't encountered it yet, I'd like to recommend a pertinent short story by sci-fi writer Dan Simmons. Use it to further freak out any sci-fi-fan friends who have been watching Beck.
http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm
The timeline seems a bit compressed, but perhaps not quite as much as I'd thought before this past week or two.
Incidentally, we would have picked "Hope and Change" for those "last 3 words". Dan, as he tells in a subsequent post, had to make a wild guess.
Correction Glenn - in Sudan they are NOT "slaughtering each other."
Muslim thugs are slaughtering and raping Christians.
Slaughtering and raping Christians and other innocent Non-Muslims.
Good catch. It seems as if no matter how good the media talking heads are, they can never quite shoot it to you 100% straight.
The complete ignorance and stupidity in the comments to the video are stunning. How much you want to bet half the YouTubers never read the koran, hadiths, or news stories of te world wide horror wreaked by the faithful disciples of Mohammed.
Thats my new tack. People say Oh Isllam is not bad. I say have you read the koran and hadiths? They say NO! I say comeback when you have and see if your singing the same tune. I also refer them to prophet of doom good book online for free too.
http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm
I like to point this book out as well..
Every time a Queer group stands up against Israel (Queers Against Israeli Apartheid) I like to show people why Queers have a fascistic streak through their homosexual agenda's history..
Very effective time spent, fearless leader. Beck may be a bit odd and temperamental, but he certainly reaches a large audience. When we reached a point when Conservatives start using Islam as a campaign issue to beat down liberals, that's when libs will start changing their tune.
Even Fox falls for it...
On 4:27, check the scrolling message at the bottom:
"prophet Mohammed", according to most people he was not a prophet. It should say just Mohammed.
It is interesting to note that just a few short years ago the Cable news media appeared to go out of their way to either ignore the threat that is the Islamic supremacist ideology or simply refused to address the most serious issue of our time,that of a world clash of civilizations.
There has certainly been a "C" change over the last 18 months;especially with FOX where Hannity,Beck,O'reilly,and Eric Bolling are beginning to hit it head on though there is still much for them to read up and understand about Islam and jihadism against the infidel.
I would attribute a good deal of the newly found awakening to the mega Mosque controversy at the 9-11 site raised by Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. There is also the murderous attack by Major Nidal Hassan on Fort Hood,Texas, and the underwear bomber,the Times Square Bomber,and a host of many more and more to come unfortunately. CNN is kind of there on occassion but it is still quite lame when it comes to understanding what drives Islam, and of course MSNBC is completely out to lunch on the issue, but then again being a leftwing station they are out to lunch on most issues any way. Gee imagine yourself depending on news from MSNBC, thank God the majority of Americans don't take that simple and silly programming for their news otherwise we would really be in deep bandini.
I certainly hope that FOX continues to seek the counsel of experts on Islam like Robert Spencer as the problem continues to grow day by day.
Islam will mass-breed it's way to dominance.
Why use guns and bombs? They should just act real jolly and friendly- by engaging in terrorism people are a lot more suspicious of them and their stealth jihad becomes less stealthy.
But as if elitist Europoeans leaders care about their countries...
I hate to say this. Beck came across to me as babbling.
I would never watch Beck for news or intelligent commentary.
But, here is the great benefit. The debate is opening up. The greatest strength of the Islamists is that they have been able to put a lid on objective discussion of Islamist expansion. Roland has reiterated that the greatest danger to Western society is immigration, if Muslims are allowed to immigrate. Many, maybe most, Muslims do not lose their religious imperialism and narcissism when they come into a free society. Instead, they use the levers of the democratic process to stifle debate and intimidate politicians and officials. They subvert the freedom of society from within, and should not be allowed entrance.
On the other hand, the Muslim countries have long-since ceased to provide an external threat to western countries. They are so backwards and primitive that the only way they can seriously threaten the existence of a modern, non-Muslim society is through mutual mass destruction, like Pakistan, or through infiltration of guerrillas, as with India or Israel.
India has cleaned Pakistan's clock in every war they have had. Ditto for Israel versus all the Arab and Muslim countries. They simply are no match for a modern state.
One of the readers has previously mentioned that the most likely scenario in the Middle East will be the existence of a Caliphate in most of the Muslim lands, with Persian-Muslim Iran as a hostile neighbor, ready to pounce on any weakness. This was the situation between Iraq and Iran before George Bush so stupidly took Iraq out of the game, and gave Iran a free hand in the Middle East.
I don't see the Muslims as a real threat if we keep them out of the Western societies. They will concentrate on what they do best: killing each other and enforcing pre-medieval ideology. Unfortunately, they will also continue to kill and persecute the non-Muslims under their control. I hope we can eventually have immigration laws and policy intelligent enough to allow non-Muslims from Muslim countries. We'll see how many productive non-Muslims the Muslim countries can attract with their "protection" racket.
In short, Beck has helped to open up the discussion. Thank you, Robert, for taking the time and trouble to work with him.
if moslem brotherhood know how to play the pr game:
for instance they call for democracy and say they not behind uprising, etc,etc. Thus pulling wool over many eyes.
and if the standard of political debate is below the intelligence level of the average parrot:
for instance the name calling and smearing stereotypes that think an arguement is won by calling jihadwatch a far right bogoted racist islamophobic site, etc. (and it seems all viewpoints are capeable of this amazing intellectual argueing ability)
then perhaps it would be helpful for the advancement of widespread knowledge of truth about islam and its agenda for jihadwatch and others briefing the media to publicise articles like this one but not to admit informing said media?
perhaps it would not or would make little difference, but I am wondering if it would be wiser to point out these media articles without publicising the assistance in informing the authors?
Mackie said "I would attribute a good deal of the newly found awakening to the mega Mosque controversy at the 9-11 site raised by Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer."
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I am one of those who were newly awakened due to the Ground Zero Mosque. In finding out more information about Ground Zero Mosque, I came across this site and found Pamela Geller's Site through links.
After 9/11 I knew about Wahabbi Islam and the Bin Ladin crowd. Admittedly I still didn't know much about Islam itself and bought into the "Religion of Peace" crap until the Ground Zero Mosque issue. That's when I can truly say the scales fell off my eyes.
I'm sad to say that I know people who despite the Ground Zero Mosque issue, still believe Islam is a "religion of peace". Islam isn't a religion and I firmly believe we should work towards having it classified as a Political Ideology. It will make it far more easier for us to fight and to contain Islam as a Political Ideology.
heck even Fox is stating that Mohammad is "The Prophet Muhammad".....What???? watch the ticket minute 4:30...
Wow. Glad to hear Spencer is being used to that extent. I'm looking forward to watching this when I get home from work tonight.
I've been reading the book Closing of the Muslim Mind by the guy Spencer interviewed recently. I've finished the first two chapters, and so far, it's outstanding. Keeps getting better. The guy analyzes the inner structure of Islamic theology: the place of will and reason in Muslims' understanding of Allah, particularly when a crisis was reached in that understanding about a thousand years ago, in the conflict between the Asharite Muslims and the Mutazalite Muslims.
The Mutazalites were the first school of Islamic theology, which evolved after the Muslims had conquered the the Byzantines and were confronted with Greek thought. This led to a hellenization of Islamic thinking, but after a couple of hundred years, Islam basically spat out Greek thought, and for a thousand years now, the mainstream of Sunni Islamic theology has conceived God as pure incomprehensible will. Reason about God, questioning, etc., are rejected. The doors of ijtihad are closed.
Most of the country (and virtually all liberals) regard Beck and anything he says as a joke. Unfortunately, this means that anything he says about Islam - no matter how accurate - is going to be presumed false just by association. Honestly, even though I agree with just about everything he's saying in that video, I'm uncomfortable listening to it, simply because he's the one saying it. It's just a reality that we should consider when deciding who to associate ourselves with.
Mr. Spencer, as morally and intellectually retarded as many liberals are, we still need to win them over to defeat Islam. With that in mind, it might be wise to consider how the opposition views pundits like Beck, and consequently, how it'll view any guests he might have on his show.
"Islam isn't a religion and I firmly believe we should work towards having it classified as a Political Ideology. It will make it far more easier for us to fight and to contain Islam as a Political Ideology."
I second that. This is also said by Geert Wilders and his PVV in Holland. But firmly resisted by Labour and all the other parties, including PVV's current ally the Christian-Democrats. Islam is still strongly seen as only a religion and the unconditional freedom of religion is still sacrosanct in mainstream politics everywhere in the democratic world.
But we can let Robert Spencer and many Critical Islam Experts spread deep knowledge about Islam, to Citizens of Democratic Nations, even more than most current Muslims have.
And we can discern the real contradictions between Democratic tenets and laws and Islamic ones. Expressed in Quran, Hadith and thus Sharia, mentioning the Abrogation-principle too. Tenets and laws also expressed in Islamic countries by Islamic leaders and preachers, throughout time.
We can evolve towards the position, taken by a majority, that there is no "Islamism and moderate Islam", only Muslim-heavies and Muslim-lights (meaning ignorants or lazies).
And that every Muslim should be considered most loyal to the Ummah and in favor of anti-democratic tenets, laws and foreign leaders. Let the burden of proof be upon them to disprove this, as there are mountains of evidence for it and multitudes who know this.
Explaining to Muslims all the while that their choice for this political ideology must have consequences. But always giving them the way out of declaring on oath, on paper, that they want to change into something as yet unknown; Democratic Muslims, who are loyal to their country, not the Ummah. And to all those Democratic laws in direct contradiction to Islamic ones. And the spearpoint should be the Islamic law of death-for-apostasy-of-Islam. So utterly anti-Democratic, anti-Freedom of Religion, which they receive so abundantly.
And to me it seems that the "Muslim-light"s already claim that "their" Islam is not in any way against or in contradiction with essential Democratic tenets and laws. So how can defend saying no to clearly declaring their political choices?
Many Muslims will try to deceive us, but classifying the default Islam as a globally hostile political ideology and asking crucial choices from Muslims would be a great starting point.
Glenn Beck's not entirely correct. Trust me, the actual theologically-approved scenario would be an even greater nightmare than what he proposes. The Mujahideen, after imposing the hukm (legislation) of Allah in nations with a current Muslim majority and re-unifying them under a Khilafah, will seek to reconquer "lost Islamic lands" in Africa, Europe, and Asia, which were at one point under Islamic rule but managed to liberate themselves and regain their independence. Such lands, of course, include former Islamic colonies of the Ottoman Empire in southeastern Europe -- Cyprus, all of Greece except Corfu, Bulgaria, Macedonia, half of Montenegro, Serbia, the semi-autonomous Republika Srpska in Bosnia-Herzegovina, half of Croatia, northeastern Slovenia, nearly all of Hungary, southern Slovakia, southern Ukraine including the Crimea, Moldova (direct Islamic rule under Ilie II Rareş, otherwise under suzerainty [indirect rule] as a vassal), Romania (direct Islamic rule in northern Dobruja and the Temesvar region for several centuries, Wallachia under direct Islamic rule during reign of Radu cel Frumos, otherwise under suzerainty as a vassal), Georgia (split between Islamic colonization and vassalage), and Armenia. It remains to be seen whether Islamists would claim Austrian cities such as Eisenstadt which were briefly under Ottoman occupation in 1529 and 1683. Also included, presumably, would be former vassal states of the Islamized Tatar Golden Horde in northeastern Europe -- Russia, the Ukraine, Belarus, eastern Poland (see Kingdom of Galicia-Volhynia). Of course, nearly all of Spain and all of Portugal and most of southern France and Monaco and even parts of southern Switzerland and northwestern Italy (see the Emirate of Fraxinet) would have to be reconquered -- as these conquests occurred during the first wave of futuhat (Islamic invasions), I imagine that they'd precede any attempts to "reopen" the Balkans et al to Islam. Most of Christians Ethiopia was subdued by the armies of Ibrahim Ghazi of Adal between 1529 and 1547, so it would have to return to Islamic rule in the wake of a resurgent Khilafah. Same with most of India, Yala-Narathiwat-Pattani in Thailand, Arakan Province in Burma, Cham Pa in Vietnam, Singapore, nearly all of the Philippines (including Manila, at one point the Islamic Kingdom of Tondo), and all those parts of China which were under the rule of Islamic warlords of the Ma Clique between 1910-49 (not just historically-Islamic Xinjiang, but also provinces such as Gansu, Qinghai, and Ningxia.)
Only after the reconquista of former Islamic lands throughout the world and their unification into a Khilafah would there be jihad al-talab wa'l-ibtida'i (offensive jihad) against kuffaar, of course preceded by the infamous Islamic summons -- 1) convert 2) pay jizya under the aegis of Islamic governance 3) war (which, of course, is blamed on the kuffaar -- how dare we put obstacles in the struggle to make Allah's deen dominant!)
I thought America imported most of it's oil from the tar sands in Canada and from Nigeria, not Saudi Arabia.
It is always a laugh to see Beck at full stretch, but he was mostly blithering through this one.
Robert should have laid it out, with the full smack down.
Lol, thanks for getting with the program Beck. No disrespect, I am largely a Beck fan. However, it is amusing to think that we- the readers fo Jihadwatch- have beaten Beck to the hot topic of the day. And, we are pretty much more familiar/ knowledgeable about it than he is. I hope he catches up- and quick.
Sorry, but the majority of people I know listen to Glenn Beck and do not think he is a joke. If you have a problem with something being "said" just because it comes from Beck, then maybe you listen to the wrong crowd to begin with.
I see that Robert has helped Glenn pull his buried head out of the sand in terms of the dpermanent global threat of Islam, though he still makes too many equivocations and uses far too many qualifiers in my estimation.
I'm getting really sick of the blatant hatred of homosexuals on a lot of anti-jihad sites. No, I don't understand why Gays defend muslims either but I sure as h*ll don't understand why a dyed in the wool anti-jihadi will foment as much hatred for homosexuals as muslims do. Yeah, they use the old "but I don't (want to) kill them like the muslims do". I'm not buying it. I'd like to see what would happen if the conditions were right.
So, I find myself more bewildered at anti-jihadists who would adopt a truly islamic stance against homosexuals than I do the homosexuals who are too deluded to see the enemy for what it is.
Personally, I try not to emulate any of the beliefs of islam, it's a matter of honor.
Beck told us that we get our oil from Saudi Arabia; he said it twice. This is nonsense, as one expects from Beck.
The USA gets most of its oil from North America, with Canada and Mexico being the top two importers.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html
Russia is the world's largest oil producer; Saudi Arabia is #2; the USA is #3.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2176rank.html
Saudi Arabia has the world's largest proven reserves; Canada is #2; Russia is #8.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2178rank.html
The USA is the world's largest natural gas producer; Russia is #2; Canada is #5.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2180rank.html
Mr. Beck seems to crack open more doors than just his own.
In one of Mr. Spencer's presentations even the cameraman couldn't pan away. Makes one wonder if the cameraman had an earache afterward?
Philip_Daniel -- where does it say that offensive jihad can only commence after the caliphate has reconquered all the lost territories of Islam? Isn't it the case that as soon as a caliphate is reconstituted, Islamic law says the caliph is within his rights to declare offensive jihads? Isn't it the case that he need not wait till after recovering lost lands?
flowerknife_us,
Which presentations of Spencer are you talking about? Are they available at Beck's website?
Whether you generally like Glenn Beck or not, I'm just letting you know that he's a highly divisive figure and referencing him or speaking on his show doesn't do the Islamic awareness effort mny favors. Regardless of any of his actual views or points, the fact is that many liberals will discount anything he says without a second thought. In the same way that Keith Olbermann is a laughing stock to half the country, Beck is a laughing stock to the other half. It's probably best to keep JW away from partisan political pundits and stick to neutral media.
I know where you are coming from, but right now I would say that we need all the help from wherever possible, to get the word out about the perils of Islam, to open the closed, self-deluding, ill-informed and smug minds all around.
It's about time. Thanks for kicking sense into this show's host Robert.
Glenn always refused to believe there was a credible Islamic threat. I stopped listening to his radio program about two years ago when a listener called in and tried to point out the dire Islamic threat. He immediately dismissed the call as to avoid sounding disciminatory. He refused to believe this was an Islamic threat - - - only an al-queda threat.
Kind of has a different perspective now Glenn, eh? Stop acting "Big" and get the RIGHT Islamic experts on your show - - - the same way you did it for issues surrounding the Constitution, American History, economics, and finance.
This is the MOST dire threat facing our world. Evil and tyranny - - - Islam is the face of the Anti-Christ.
Now, let's just hope someone doesn't ask him how Muhammad differs from John Smith . . .
Jihad ad-Daf'a (jihad to defend Islam's domains or recover usurped land) is a fardh 'ayn, or individual obligation upon the Ummah. Therefore, it supersedes Jihad at-Talab wa'l-Ibtida'i, Offensive Jihad, which is a fardh kifaya, or collective obligation. One can see that both are obligatory and to fail to engage in either results in sin, but before new nations are invited to Islam and thenceforth fought if they do not accept to be governed under the Khilafah and pay jizya, all "Islamic lands" must be united under the viceregency of the Muslimeen -- even lands which were lost to the kuffaar, such as India and Hungary and Sicily.
From an Al-Qaeda polemic...
"There is no doubt that many Muslim lands are occupied and seized by the infidels; some for centuries, may Allah provide assistance, from Andalusia in the west, parts of southern Europe, Central Asia, the Balkans, the Caucasus and nearby areas, to East Turkistan in China, to many countries in Southeast Asia, Singapore, the Philippines, Thailand, and others, and even India, or many parts of it. These were all some time ago the lands of Islam and Dar al-Islam and were taken by the kaffir [infidel] enemy. So Muslims must retrieve them and free them from the hands of the infidels…
([R]egarding my saying ‘the entire world’), and considering that the entire world is expecting us to conquer them with Islam by invading the countries of the kuffar and conquering them so that there is no more fitna and faith in Allah prevails…This is fundamentally a collective obligation upon the Islamic Ummah that you see is wasted and not practiced."
“Responses to the Ruling on Leaving for Battle and the Precondition of Takfir”, Sheikh Abu Abdulrahman Attiya Allah al-Libi, http://is.gd/ktFjAA
I know Beck is laughed at in all the "right" circles (those of the elites). Still, he has educated me on the Constitution, his priorities remsemble my own, and I take him at his word to "not trust me, do your own homework". How may commentators on "the other side" tell you that?
As for the mainstream press, it is highly invested in the notion that Islam is a "religion of peace" just as it is invested in other nonsense like global warming, or Obamacare (as long as they get their exemptions).
I'd agree with other posters who believe we need to get our message out in whatever venues will listen to us.
Here is what I think....and I suppose nobody really cares...and that is ok. But remember in the Bible when it says after the rapture and Jesus takes his bride home to be with Him everyone who has heard about Jesus and not accepted Him will believe a lie? Well, I truely believe that Jesus is coming soon to take us home. Then, Islam can have the day - and perhaps someone who is supposed to be the 12th Imam will come and be the one who does miracles and a lot of other things - the antichrist - to fool people and everyone (except those separated by God for His kingdom) will believe the lies and follow Islam. I often wondered why as a child when it says that Christians will be hunted down during the tribulation (7 years of disaster following the rapture) and they will be beheaded. Well, that makes a whole lot of sense now since that is what the Muslims do to infidels. Right? So, if you know Jesus, I do believe I will be seeing you soon as we rise to meet the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. And for you who reject Jesus, you will be left behind to believe the lies and unfortunately - your eternity will be sealed. How my heart aches for people to know Jesus - His message is love and peace and eternal life with Him. There is no middle grey or moderate - it is Jesus or Satan - it is as simple as that. Choose ye this day whom you will serve - as for me and my house we will serve the Lord.
That is correct.
That is correct.
He certainly was a prophet-a false prophet. Better not say that unless you want death threats.
I should have said, that is correct, but incomplete. Muslims are also slaughtering Muslims. That's what's happenning in Darfur. What is NOT happenning is Christians going after Muslims.
Good witness Virginia. Islam is similiar to the false teachings that will be spread at the end. I like to tell seculars that at least Jesus gives you a choice, and gives you your whole life to make that choice....Islam will not.
Duh Swami wrote:
Yeah, but a liberal woman told me that Beck was nuts, and a liar...She laughed at the idea of a Caliphate, and said Beck had gone over the edge into fantasy and make believe...
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I'm all too familiar with this sort of thing myself, Swami. And remember, there doesn't even have to be a full, reconstituted Caliphate to wreak havoc.
I can imagine all sorts of ugly scenarios, with rival Sunni and Shi'ite Caliphates, or a whole slew of tin-pot "Sheiks" declaring themselves Caliph, or just dueling Jihadists as in Somalia.
After all, there never was a "thousand year Reich"—the whole thing would be laughable, in fact, if it were not for those millions dead because of the National Socialist vision—it can be the same with Islam and the Caliphate.
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Overall, good stuff from Glenn Beck. Yes, he was off on some of his details, but he got the big picture more right than not.
Beck *can* be rather gonzo at times, but one thing I have always respected about him is that he doesn't ask that anyone automatically take his word, or that they credit him for the information in any way.
Instead, he asks that people do their own research. And it seems that many viewers are doing just that.
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>> @4:09 OMG, we might have a caliphet, what happen next ?
remember 1921 Mopla riots ? A rumor spread among Moplahs that british rule has ended and Islamic caliphet has been restored [ In delhi ? Nope it was in Jerusalem.. as only candidate with name Haji Mohammed visible in history claiming kaliph status was Haji Mohammed Amin al Husseini.]
http://www.indianetzone.com/3/mopla_revolt.htm
http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/may/09rajeev.htm