Here's a recent Jihad Watch headline:
Indonesia: Machete-wielding Muslim mob attacks Ahmadi Muslim "heretics," murdering three
That was from February 6. And now authorities in Indonesia are claiming that the Ahmadis have "stirred up community conflicts." This is exactly the same Islamic supremacist evasion of responsibility and tendency to blame the victim that we saw yesterday in Zawahiri's blaming of the Copts for the jihad attacks against the Copts in Egypt.
Islamic Tolerance Alert from modern, moderate Indonesia, and more on this story: "Regional Indonesian Politicians to Ban Or Curb Ahmadiyah," by Fitri, Eras Poke, Heru Andriyanto and Antara in the Jakarta Globe, February 26 (thanks to Twostellas):
Regional chiefs in some Indonesian provinces are moving ahead with plans to either ban completely or restrict the activities of Ahmadiyah followers in their areas, claiming the Muslim sect has stirred up community conflicts.The mayor of Samarinda, Sjahrie Jaang, said he would curb all Ahmadiyah activities in the East Kalimantan capital and would also soon move to close down its mosques.
“The regulation on halting the activities of the Ahmadiyah was signed today,” he told reporters after a meeting with local police, religious leaders and community representatives on Friday.
He said he would meet with Ahmadiyah leaders in the area to enforce the regulation, advising them to halt their activities and close their houses of worship.
“This decision was taken as a form of firm action by the city administration on the Ahmadiyah issue in order to maintain security by preventing potential sources of conflict in society,” the mayor said.
When asked about the size of the Ahmadiyah community in Samarinda, Sjahrie said it was “insignificant” but if no firm action was taken immediately, it was likely to grow. “This is why we need to stop their activities now,” he said.
Representatives of the Indonesian Council of Ulema in Samarinda lauded the administration’s plans.
“The mayor’s decision is a relief to us all,” said Zaini Naim, the local chapter’s chairman. “This will stop the people from taking the law into their own hands.”
According to M. Faozal, a spokesman for West Nusa Tenggara’s provincial government, the governor was about to issue a bylaw that would outlaw the spread of Ahmadiyah teachings. “Ahmadiyah often triggers conflict in many regions, including West Nusa Tenggara,” the spokesman said on Friday. “The governor wants to prevent conflict; We’re calling on the Ahmadiyah to stop causing conflict.”
Limiting the Ahmadiyah community’s activities was necessary as a way to prevent potential conflicts, Faozal said, adding that the government hoped its followers would return to the “rightful path of Islam.”...
Wish all these kinds of stories would make it to the MSM for those deliberately ignorant maroons who still think Islam is a religion of peace.
Indonesian regional chiefs to crack down on Ahmadiyya for stirring up trouble
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And how are the Ahmadiyya "stirring up trouble"? By abjuring violent Jihad—which is heretical—and by merely existing.
I'm pretty sure the term used for "stirring up trouble" was *Fitna*—which can mean "persecution", "sedition", or "fomenting unrest", but most commonly just means "disbelief" in some aspect of orthodox Islam.
More:
“The mayor’s decision is a relief to us all,” said Zaini Naim, the local chapter’s chairman. “This will stop the people from taking the law into their own hands.”
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Who would be likely to "take the law into their own hands"? It wouldn't be the non-violent Ahmadiyya, no matter how much "trouble" they are "stirring up"—it would be devout adherents of orthodox Islam, getting themselves up into the ubiquitous violent Muslim mob.
I hold the Indonesian national government responsible for not upholding it's constitutional laws and not having a backbone to come down hard on these intolerant members of it's society. I call on all freedom loving governments to suspend all economic and military aid to Indonesia. They have made their islamic bed, now let them waste away in it.
I also call on Austraila and New Zealand to offer asylum to this muslim sect and all other non muslim minorities that reside in this enslaved society. They are political refugees in the truest sense of the word.
They don't have to do anything, the mere existence of these Harbis stirs up trouble.
William the Crusader wrote:
I also call on Austraila and New Zealand to offer asylum to this muslim sect and all other non muslim minorities that reside in this enslaved society. They are political refugees in the truest sense of the word.
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This is a tough one, William. Certainly, I largely agree with you—I believe all civilized Infidel states should offer asylum to those threatened and oppressed by Islam—Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, agnostics and atheists, even the Baha'i.
But the Ahmadiyya are a difficult case. They are as targeted for violence as are the Baha'i, and they have given up the idea of violent Jihad—certainly the most visible and most immediately alarming threat to the West.
The problem is that, unlike the Baha'i, they share most of the goals of their fellow Muslims—including the *imposition of barbaric Shari'ah law*.
They also serve as apologists for orthodox, Jihad-minded Muslims.
So—while I largely agree with you—and certainly agree with your sentiments—we need to be careful here. Otherwise, we could simply wind up with a situation where—say—we allowed Shi'ite refugees to enter en masse, because they were violently oppressed by Sunni Jihadists—even though though they might hold views identical to the Ayatollah Khomeini.
Still, compared to what so many in the West are doing now—importing Jihadists willy-nilly without the slightest screening—giving the Ahmadi asylum would probably prove at least slightly less damaging.
Wouldn't it be great if a mayor of an American city like, say, Milwaukee or Jacksonville, could and would curb all Moslem activities in the city -- for "stirring up community conflicts" -- and move to close down the mosques?
"I call on all freedom loving governments to suspend all economic and military aid to Indonesia"... and to every muslim country where international human rights treaties are not fully respected.
Indonesia: Muslims lynching Ahmadis (video / graphic)
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/02/indonesia-lynching.html
It goes to show that even if you are a Muslim there will be other Muslims who believe you are not Muslim enough....
Salah posted:
Indonesia: Muslims lynching Ahmadis (video / graphic)
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I've seen that video before, Salah—*it is horrifying*.
Only in Islam can you be *beaten to death* and be considered the one who is "stirring up trouble"...
Its not true at all that Ahmadies want to Imply Islamic Shariah laws. Ahmadies are law abiding wherever they live in the world and no matter if it is a Communist, Secular or Islamic State. We do interpret Islamic Shariah laws according to the philosophies of Holy Quran and Sunnah of Prophet Mohammad(saw) but we do not want to enforce them by force.