Jihadist planning White House rally says Obama must "embrace Islam" or be put on trial when Muslims take over U.S.

All that pandering and Obama still gets this. "Obama to face Shariah court? Cleric says president 'must embrace Islam' or be tried when Muslims take over U.S.," from WorldNetDaily, February 27:

President Obama must embrace Islam as a way of life or face the consequences of a trial under the Shariah Islamic court system, declared British extremist cleric Anjem Choudary.

Choudary, founder and former chief of two Islamic groups disbanded by the British authorities under anti-terror legislation, is planning a Washington protest later this week in which he says he will call on American Muslims to revolt against the country and implement Shariah law.

Speaking in an interview with investigative reporter Aaron Klein on his program on New York's WABC Radio, Choudary claimed Obama was waging a war against Islam.

"[Obama] has promised all Muslims to be released from Guantanamo Bay. They are still languishing there even though he knows they are completely innocent," Choudary claimed.

"On top of that, he's increased the number of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, so he is a warmonger just as his predecessor was. And thirdly and more importantly," Choudary said, "the Muslims don't want democracy and freedom. Democracy and freedom are anathema to Islam and the Shariah."...

Choudary said that at his protest, scheduled to take place Thursday in front of the White House, he will call on Obama and all Americans to "embrace Islam, not only as a religion but as a way of life."

Choudary continued: "And at the same time, we will be issuing a warning that the presence of U.S. forces and U.S. personnel in Muslim countries, looking out for their interests, at the moment is very, very insecure. I think the Muslims are boiling angry around the world. This is something [Americans] should take very seriously."

Choudary turned his ire back to Obama, claiming the president was committing "crimes" against Muslims in Iraq and in Afghanistan.

He warned Obama: "I do believe that the only way for him to save himself in this life and in the hereafter is to embrace Islam. Islam will eradicate all his sins; he will be like the day his mother gave birth to him. Otherwise, when we do implement the Shariah, obviously he will face the consequences of a trial under the Shariah court."

Choudary has publicly stated he believes the flag of Islam will fly over White House. He repeated that contention in his interview with Klein today.

"I do believe that as a Muslim every part of the world will be governed by the Shariah," he said. "So symbolically the flag of Islam will fly from every single country, every single nation."...

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Well won't HE be surprised when he finds out the Obamullah said the Shahada many, many years ago -- in Indonesia, one assumes -- and just needs to, er, renew his vows.

This should be a highly entertaining demonstration provided the anti-shariaists turn out in force. Much excellent video of "boiling angry" Muslims with steam coming out of their ears.

Let's hope this guy gets loads of national media attention and that his posse displays their usual collection of "Behead the Infidels" and "Down with Freedom" placards in very large easy to read from a mile font. And it's all at their own expense. How cool is that? My only fear is that they will blend in too well with all the other regular conspiracy theorists and UFO nutters at Lafayette Park.

How about Anjem Choudary be arrested for threatening the President of the United States and extradited to stand trial under the U.S. Constitution? The trial should be televised. It would be an educational opportunity for all Americans.

Gee, Hussein Obama does all the right things, goes to the right places, bowing and scraping, gives speeches in the right venue, and still the Mussies treat him like a cur.

Reminds me of the old Hank Williams Sr standby,

Well, Why Don't You Love Me like you used to do
How come you treat me like a worn out shoe
My hair's still curly and my eyes are still blue
Why Don't You Love Me Like You Used To Do,

se·di·tion    –noun
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.

Seems to me like a perfect opportunity to lock up 'ol Anjem on the spot, right after he finishes speaking.

"I think the Muslims are boiling angry around the world. This is something [Americans] should take very seriously."

Anjem Choudary

I think Muslims are always angry at something, it certainly doesn't take much. Misreading the Quran,a cartoon depicting Mohamed,a teddy bear named Mohamed,the Jews,pigs,or just plain non Muslims, these people are angry and hateful of anything that they consider anti-Islam.

You would think a little light would go on in their collective heads and ask the question: Why are all the Muslim countries run by dictators and despots (96percent)? But no they sadly cling to an archaic ideology that is intolerant of all things not Islam.

Anjem Choudary is not a radical or extremist he is just an honest broker of what this totalitarian supremacist ideology teaches.

Choudary is well known here in britain. he was a smoking, boozing, naughty muslim at college here in the UK. then he found allah.

he is correct when he says that democracy is anathema to islam. he and muslims like him recognise that modern western democracy and christianity/judaism share the same tenets and principles - because they were drawn from christianity/judaism. just as shariah is the muslim system of governance, so democracy is for christianity/judaism. many westerners unfortunately believe that democracy is some sort of secular political idea. they don't understand its roots.

how can islam ever embrace democracy?? it can't. one of the central planks of christianity is the primacy of the individual sovereign conscience; that each individual is responsible for their actions as a human being before god. in islam, there is no individual. each person is a vessel only for the expression of god's will. in islam, they have the collective, the ummah, as they have in communism, socialism, fascism (this is also why left-wingers find it so easy to be apologists for islam - their doctrines are virtually identical).

with the collective will, you have no democracy. and as the west loses its christianity, so it is losing its democracy...

now, i'm not advocating that everyone suddenly become born again christians - but to recognise where democracy comes from, what it stands for, and to recognise why islam will NEVER embrace it.

Choudary said, "the Muslims don't want democracy and freedom. Democracy and freedom are anathema to Islam and the Shariah."

This guy isn't familiar with taqiyyah, is he?

I don't know about any of you, but I'm getting the feeling Choudary is mocking islam. He is just too explicit. His honest and openness is welcoming, but I'm wondering if there isn't a bit more to him than we are seeing.

Another of the big lies:

"Choudary says he expect thousands to come out to this week's protest, which he said is being organized with the Islamic Thinkers Society, an extremist group based in New York."

When will WND-and every other 'news' outlet-get the memo:

They are NOT extremists.

They are literalists who are attempting to comply with Islam's written teachings.

Bar none.

Teachings that anyone ('journalists', politicians, pundits, and military leaders included) can read for themselves.

Should his scheduled appearance in this country come to pass, how will members of our lazy, lying press describe him and his accurate descriptions of Islam?

And who will the masses believe? The press or Choudary?

Will American Muslims continue to tell us on the one hand that Islamic teachings are open to some limited interpretation, while on the other explaining that those who tell it like it really is--like Choudary--are twisiting the true teachings of their 'religion of peace'?

THe MSM will only say he is one of the few extremists,, blah blah. why the hell is he even allowed in the US?

Afford Choudary three choices that he is certain to understand:

1. Invite him to convert to Christianity.

2. If he refuses, invite him to submit and live under our "protection" in America as a dhimmi.

3. If he again refuses, kill him.

Who let this guy into the country?

If it could be shown that the route he proposes to achieve a non-democratic government in the U.S. is a violent route, then under U.S. law, he could be arrested for sedition. But if he can sustain a claim that he proposes working only within the constitutional democratic process for the elimination of democracy, then our sedition laws probably can't touch him.

If this circus occurs I hope there is plenty of coverage. Hopefully some Jihadwatch readers who live in the area can take video and still cameras down there and gather up some of the goings on.

C-Span would be terrific because they won't edit things like the lame street media does.

Check out the latest posting on the "Islamic Thinkers Website:

http://www.islamicthinkers.com/index/index.php

If this rabid mad dog parades with the same offensive placards on Thursday that his stormtroopers employ in London he should make the American public really sit up.

The mistake to make, in my view, is to regard this monster as a clown of some kind - he is'nt, he's truly dangerous, insofar that his confidence intimidates liberal/left opinion into accommodations the West can no longer afford.

CONFRONT HIM. Above all, confront him with the victims of Islamic cruelty - case after case exists throughout Europe and Afghanistan. Would Dr. Wafa Sultan attend? Nobody can shout her down, God Bless her.

In this interview/debate which was taped last month in Britain
you can see the debate style of Chaudary as he deflects any pointed questions directed at him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4u5o8gz55M&NR=1

For those of you who would like to be aware of some of the deflective debating tricks used by people from left and Anjem Choudary, this is a good page that describes 9 of them:

http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/stupiddebate.php

Isn't Choudary a great representative of the Religion of Peace? I am sure that Karen Armstrong and CAIR will write him a letter telling him how he is a misunderstander of Islam, offer to debate him publicly, and work among the US muslim community to get more people to speak out against Choudary.

What's that? It's not happening? Shocka!

I hate to burst your bubble, but I've just read over at the tundra tabloids that "Andy" Choudary is on the US no fly list. Its all smoke and mirrors to up his profile in the islamic world, nothing more.

I could not gather from the story; is this idiot in the United States?

This guy isn't familiar with taqiyyah, is he?
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Don't be fooled. He is very familiar with Taqiyya that is why he has followers. If you have ever heard him speak about Islam taking over, you think he's not using Taqiyya. In this case you would be correct. When he talks to fellow muslims he does use taqiyya and thats how he pulls them into his sermons and gains recruits. This guy is very slick at telling fellow muslims what they want to hear.

I really pity Americans as they cannot see the danger. All I hear is: "We've always been a country of immigrants!" You right bozos! You WERE a country of mostly European immigrants that all came from the West who shared Judeo-Christian values and saw the horrors of Facism and dictatorships who realised the danger.

The newer generations don't understand that and think that its OK to let in immigrants who don't share the same value systems. You are heading for disaster friends. Robert might sound over the top but I believe he is right.

He has just said he intends to break the law when he comes to the United States.

Calling for rebellion is worth up to 10 years in prison as per TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2383 of the United States legal code.

((( "You are heading for disaster friends. Robert might sound over the top but I believe he is right." )))

Say what, now?

I'm right with you on the rest of your post but this part threw me. I have read much of what Robert has written, and have listened to him in interviews, debates and various oral presentations. He has NEVER "sounded over the top" in my book of over-the-topness.

He's as logical, articulate, knowledgeable and well-versed on the issues as anyone could possibly be.

Awake and traeh,

You may be right about the possible arrest of Anjem Choudary. In Oct. 2010, on CNN, Kathleen Parker, Nic Robertson, and Eliot Sptizer interviewed Anjem Choudary for the program, In the Arena. Near the end of the interview, Choudary admitted that he has had contact with violent jihadists in the United States. Though there were no names mentioned or any details discussed - the reasons for that would be obvious - Choudary did seem to implicate himself. [A]n EDL buck reports that Anjem Choudary is on the US no fly list and thus his appearance at the protest rally in Washington D.C. is not likely. Choudary’s communication with potential terrorists living in the United States is probably the reason he is on that list. I won’t be disappointed really, if Choudary doesn’t show up at the D.C. protest, but it leaves the British with the problem of having to deal with him. I understand that Choudary receives a government benefit- a dole of some kind. I hope that ends soon. The British taxpayers must be fed up with supporting that kind of thing. Maybe an EDL buck can shed light on how the payments to Choudary work. If Choudary has broken a British law, it would be a great day to see that smiling jihadist carted off to prison.

Here is a sample from the interview:

SPITZER: Mr. Choudary, are you communicating with individuals in the United States and encouraging them to participate in attacks of this sort?

CHOUDARY:: Of course I am. You know, I am participating in communication with people all around the world. As you know, the Internet makes the world a very small place. You know, we have a lot of support, in fact, (inaudible) from people as far afield as Indonesia, from India...

SPITZER: Mr. Choudary, Mr. Choudary, based upon your answer, I believe - and I'm sure many prosecutors will listen to your answer - you have violated U.S. law. You deserve to be arrested, prosecuted, jailed for the rest of your life. That is what you, sir, deserve. You are a violent and heinous terrorist.

CHOUDARY: I - I say to you - I will say to you...
(CROSSTALK)

SPITZER: You can speak it from behind prison bars as far we're concerned, sir...

If the link works, you can see the entire interview here.

((( "THe MSM will only say he is one of the few extremists,, blah blah." )))

That's probably the objective

We all know of the orchestrated, on-going, well-funded effort to discredit our good freedom-fighters and expose' authors. While many misinformed people have fallen for the "islamophobia/hater/bigot/liar" campaigns against Robert et al, more & more Americans are starting to wake-up.

A rally of ranting extremists like Chaudhry and the ITS could be just what the doctor ordered, to put some of them back to sleep. The MSM will likely portray the demonstrators as a handful of fringe nutjobs who *don't represent mainstream Islam*. Some of the ill-informed, who had only recently begun to pay attention, might conclude that we've all been over-reacting all along... much-a-do-about-nothing: 'What? You're worried about these freaks?'

And of course, a few "moderate" players will appear on the MSM, to assure that they 'denounce' everything Chaudhry & Gang represent.

Meanwhile, the stealthy remain hard at work, under the malfunctioning radar of the masses. Business as usual - burrowing in deeper & deeper.

Lordy! What a gruesome thought. I hope I'm wrong.

Why in the world is this man even allowed into the country and given any sort of platform to spew his views?

I don't understand why he is not arrested on the spot!

Obama should be speaking out strongly against him, and yet... nothing. This shows us what side he's on.

This has me furious. I cannot believe this is going to happen in my country.

Looks like all that bowing and cowtowing was a bad "investment," Barry. Unless, of course, you've already secretly negotiated your golden parachute, that is.

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Jihadist planning White House rally says Obama must "embrace Islam" or be put on trial when Muslims take over U.S.
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I know—especially early on—that a lot of people thought Obama with his pandering would be a big hit with Muslims. I always knew, though, that anything short of his "reverting" and "flying the Black Flag of Islam over the White House" would fall short of appeasing Muslims.

More:

He warned Obama: "I do believe that the only way for him to save himself in this life and in the hereafter is to embrace Islam... Otherwise, when we do implement the Shariah, obviously he will face the consequences of a trial under the Shariah court."
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I am no fan of our appeasing, weak, arrogant socialist closet-Marxist "Commander-in-Chief", but the image of this savage threatening the president of the United States of America with his barbaric "law" makes me damned angry—I imagine most people here feel the same way.

More:

"[Obama] has promised all Muslims to be released from Guantanamo Bay. They are still languishing there even though he knows they are completely innocent," Choudary claimed.
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B*llsh*t—not even Obama said that the inmates "were all innocent" when he talked about closing Gitmo. Choudary, of course, is speaking in the Islamic sense—they are "innocent" not because they are falsely considered Jihad terrorists, but simply *because they are Muslim*.

More:

And thirdly and more importantly," Choudary said, "the Muslims don't want democracy and freedom. Democracy and freedom are anathema to Islam and the Shariah."...
.....................

He said it—"democracy and freedom are anathema to Islam..."—don't we know it!

More:

Choudary said that at his protest, scheduled to take place Thursday in front of the White House, he will call on Obama and all Americans to "embrace Islam, not only as a religion but as a way of life."
.....................

Muslims "call to Islam" right before they attack...

More:

"I do believe that as a Muslim every part of the world will be governed by the Shariah," he said. "So symbolically the flag of Islam will fly from every single country, every single nation."...
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You have an awful lot of freedom-loving Infidels standing in your way...

I thought that Paki/Brit was banned from our country.

I think it's a stunt. Chouderhead is a shameless publicity whore.

But if it's for real, I'm 7 balls deep. I've been all dressed up and no place to go for years.

Exactly - why on earth is this stone-age pool of dog vomit allowed into the USA or in fact any democratic country? Our parents and grandparents didn't let nazis and communists in - what's wrong with our generation?
On the plus side, Barak Hussein doesn't have to worry about his head, although his daughters might well be somewhat nervous about the future of their clitorises. Barry is a moslem, pure and simple. Despite the best efforts of the birther theorists, there'll never be a paper trail - our enemies aren't that stupid, but his heart, soul and mind all bow eastward.

Must say that I'd be extremely pleased if one
of those lone-nut types such as James Earl Ray
or Lee Harvey Oswald happed by on Thursday to
welcome Choudary to America - Land of The Free!

Petros - Oh, hear, hear. As a Canadian born in the late 1960s, I was even told this canard as far back as grade school in the 1970s - "Canada has no culture of its own".

They were simply preparing the way for the nightmare that we face here now.

Meanwhile, as a teenager in the 1980s, I was an army cadet, which means I had to take a civics course - which, at instructor's level, I'm proud to say I scored 100% on final exam - in five minutes. I was the first from my region to win a cultural exchange trip to England that was offered to top scorers.

That civics course, brought to me by the Department of National Defense, taught me the lie of what I was taught in grade school.

Some here consider me a bit radical. If so, it's because I know what Canada was, and was supposed to be. No, not all "white", but based on English and French culture (depending on where you live) with Native Indian and/or American influence (again, depending on where you live). Immigrants were once expected to respect and adjust to that, but as of 1985, not any more. Yeah, that makes me angry, and I know who is responsible, and who takes advantage of Canadian white guilt policies. It's not all Muslims (since Canada has such a mix of immigrants, there's a lot more than them involved here, unlike, say, Europe), but I can see where they can full well take advantage of certain trends; others will too, and that will lead only to the Balkanization of Canada, and possibly its breakup on ethnic/racial lines, and also possibly by violent means (on the part of what we euphemistacally call "New Canadians"). We thought Anglo-Franco sniping was bad. We ain't seen nothing yet.

"Our" liberal Calif Hussein, from the White Mosque of Washington.

SuprkufrB wrote:

Exactly - why on earth is this stone-age pool of dog vomit allowed into the USA or in fact any democratic country?
................................

I don't think he will be. Even under Obama's disturbingly flaky policies, I would be damned surprised if Choudary is actually allowed to enter the US.

I believe that interview with New York's WABC Radio was by telephone from England. Why the Brits put up with his vile presence is another issue...

When will people stop calling it extremism? As many have said, there is only one Islam.

Think what you will of Choudary, you have to respect that he tells the truth about Islam. I've only caught him in taqiyya a few times.

There are counter-demonstrations for both events this weekend. To protest Anjem Choudary's rally, I have this information from Florida Security Council:

Join with us - Lafayette Park - March 3 - Thursday 11-1 pm - White House

For more info contact: Tom@FloridaSecurityCouncil.org

To protest Daisy Khan's "Today, I am a Muslim too" demonstration in NYC on March 6th against Rep Peter King's hearings, there is an information sheet here:

http://libertyrocks.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Flyer_Sun_Mar_6_rauf_shamsi.docx

John K wrote:

Think what you will of Choudary, you have to respect that he tells the truth about Islam. I've only caught him in taqiyya a few times.
........................

I take your point, John, but I don't entirely concur. While it is true that individual Jihadists differ in their tactics, ultimately both the "fast Jihad" of Muslims like Choudary and the "slow Jihad" of Taqiyya artists share the same goals.

"Slow Jihad" is only a useful tactic because Infidels have power in the world as it currently exists. If Islam becomes dominant, there will be no more "slow Jihad".

So, I believe it is less the case that Choudary is an honest man, and more that case that he is simply more cocky than some of his coreligionists.

Choudry on trial? Sounds reasonable. Very well deserved. I would love to see Obama do his dance with Islam.

gravenimage wrote:

So, I believe it is less the case that Choudary is an honest man, and more that case that he is simply more cocky than some of his coreligionists.

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The benefit at least is that when Americans hear Choudary, they hear true Islam. This is mitigated by the media calling it extremism, but the people need to hear this more often.

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