Obama administration’s Director of National Intelligence calls Muslim Brotherhood “largely secular”

Of course, that’s why they call themselves the Largely Secular Brotherhood. What? They don’t? Who wrote this briefing?

Clapper goes on to stress the supposed heterogeneity of the Muslim (yes, Muslim) Brotherhood, sounding rather embarrassingly like last week’s appalling piece from the New York Times, which, among other things, did its best to portray the Brotherhood as an ideological jellyfish whose true nature and intentions are impossible to grasp. They are not, whether in Egypt or in the United States.

“Obama Administration Corrects Clapper’s Claim That Muslim Brotherhood Is ‘Secular’,” from Fox News, February 10 (thanks to all who sent this in):

The Obama administration took the rare step Thursday of correcting its own intelligence chief after the official claimed Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood is “largely secular.”

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper discussed the Islamist group during a hearing on Capitol Hill earlier Thursday. He testified that the organization has “pursued social ends” and a “betterment of the political order,” and downplayed its religious underpinnings.

That’s very deliberate on their part.

“The term ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ … is an umbrella term for a variety of movements, in the case of Egypt, a very heterogeneous group, largely secular, which has eschewed violence and has decried Al Qaeda as a perversion of Islam,” Clapper said.

But the DNI later issued a statement to “clarify” that claim.

“To clarify Director Clapper’s point, in Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood makes efforts to work through a political system that has been, under Mubarak’s rule, one that is largely secular in its orientation. He is well aware that the Muslim Brotherhood is not a secular organization,” DNI spokesperson Jamie Smith said….

The fact that you even had to reassure us of that is unsettling.

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  1. says

    I read that and was very shocked.

    Questions about his statement:

    1. Was it due to Clapper being ill-informed and /or and idiot? God help you if such are the people protecting you.

    2. Was he told to do so by his boss Obama? And then had to retract when the fall-out started happening?

  2. says

    I thought I’d seen it all. The MB is “heterogeneous,” “secular,” “an umbrella group”? Sure, and the Nazi party in 1932 was a broad-based coalition, with no specific agenda except to bring down the corrupt and weak Weimar Republic. It had no governing ideology, did not purvey anti-Semitism as a core ideological belief, worked with non-Nazis for broad political and social goals, served as “social service agency” in impoverished German communities (which is how much of the MSM has depicted Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas, the Gaza/West Bank wing of the MB, in the Palestinian territories), and did not envision an Aryan-supremacist thousand-year Reich.

    Is this guy Clapper for real? I leave it to the wits on this website to make the appropriate, and astute, remarks about the guy. But he is DNI here in the US. Swell. Just great.

  3. says

    Secular by the Muslim Brotherhood standard of course..this remind me of the muslim mainstream stance in Egypt that the MB is moderate and tolerant!!!!! this is the standard..God help us

  4. says

    That Clapper’s “largely secular” comment didn’t go unchecked (and Obama quickly came to the fore with a “clarifying” statement) provides evidence that there is a sizable body of Americans who know the time of day when it comes to the purposeful game to Islamisize American.

    Well done, JihadWatch, Pamela, and countless (& growing) others.

  5. says

    All I can say is what an idiot. But no this had to be intentional since even here at Jihad Watch we had a nice PDF of the brotherhoods views of jihad. If we have seen it he must have as well.

    Islam is a global bully, appease them and it gets worse. I tried it in school and suffered for it. Now when I gave the bully a black eye, 2 bruised testicles and a dislocated jaw he was my bestest friend in the whole world and became like my butler for the next four years. With bullies you have to hit them where it hurts, and leave a mark.

  6. says

    The clarification itself is eyewash. Clapper was specific in characterizing the MB ITSELF as “largely secular”…he wasn’t talking about Mubarak or Egyptian society as a whole.

    It was a gaff…and a major one at that. And it was part of a prepared statement; Clapper wasn’t speaking extemporaneously. Question is, who composed the statement…and on what intelligence was it based?

  7. says

    The ‘Grand jihad to destroy America from within’ is a declaration of war…That makes MB an enemy…

    Giving aid and comfort to the enemy is treason…

    Blatant liars…
    Rasool Obama and his merry men and women, know the truth about MB and Islam, but they are giving aid and comfort to the enemy so they have to lie about it to avoid charges of treason…Only Al-Qaeda is the enemy not Islam or anything Islamic…Not the Muslim Brotherhood, their not even religious…

  8. says

    My first reaction was how on earth did a cretin like him even become a DNI but on second thoughts I get the sneaking suspicion that the Muslim Brotherhood operatives have penetrated the office of the DNI. Why not, they have penetrated the office of the Presidency itself?

  9. says

    How can James Clapper say that with a straight face? Was this a response that was orchestrated from the White House?

    Who for God’s sake is giving Mr Clapper council? Is that man really looking at our enemies with a serious eye or is he towing a fantasy line fed to him by an inept White house administration? Which is it?

    Someone who gets it, needs to sit down and have serious discussion with him . Quite frankly I don’t think he is up to the job.

    It is time for you to retire Mr. Clapper before you stumble for a third time.

    There is absolutely nothing secular about the Muslim Brotherhood, they believe in a totalitarian Islamic ideology that lives by sharia law, and demands full adherence to the teachings of the Qu’ran. the Islamic core beliesf speak to it being at least 85 percent political in it fundamental structure through the teachings of the sira , hadiths, and the Qu’ran or the Islamic trilogy. There is in fact no wiggle room for the role secularism in it teachings.

    The Brotherhood’s founder, al-Banna, was a devout admirer of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime. During the 1930s, the Brotherhood became more political in nature and an officially political group in 1939. Over the years, the organization developed an apparatus through which to provide military training to its followers and to engage in political terrorism against Egyptian Coptic Christians and government officials.

    The Muslim Brotherhood opposes secular tendencies of Islamic nations and wants return to the precepts of the Qur’an, and rejection of Western influences.
    The organization’s motto is as follows: “Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.”

    An important aspect of the Muslim Brotherhood ideology is the sanctioning of jihad such as the 2004 fatwa issued by Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi making it a religious obligation of Muslims to abduct and kill U.S. citizens in Iraq.

  10. says

    “When a blind man leads a blind man both fall into the pit.”
    Trouble is these clowns are dragging us down with them. Fortunately their term of office will come to an end and then hopefully they will be replaced this time with good men/women.
    Another quote comes to mind.
    “You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
    Do these people think we are all fools?
    We are an informed people. The mushroom treatment won’t work!
    I wonder if seeing an uprising from people who have had enough (Egypt) is making them a bit nervous?….

  11. says

    Obama administration is full of Muslims and Muslim sympathizers. I am not at all surprised at this moron’s pronouncements. Hope the public sees through the duplicity of these liars. To think that these people are running our government makes me cringe for our safety. Throw these bums out of office in 2012.

  12. says

    What’s so great about secular? The Nazis were secular; so were/are the Commies.

    *** 33:21 ***

    Clapper bringing in the fiction about the Bro-Hood being secular is an implicit admission that Islam is the most profound problem besetting Egypt. THANK GOD ALMIGHTY it’s not their religion, fer Chrissakes!

    Albeit you wouldn’t know that listening to O’Reilly-Couric-Morning Joe-Big Head Ed-Brian Williams-Pinch-Tom Friedman-Paul Krugman-Rachel Maddow and all the rest of the stupidity chorus that confuses us so on a daily basis. Lookit! Them thar Moslems are getting violent they want Jeffersonian democracy so much!

    All these people, and Obama, *want* to beleive that Islam and Moslems are ok, just misundertood and poorly treated.
    This kinda thinking is like starting a duck hunt by taking your shotgun and blowing off your right foot.

  13. says

    It is a minor, but easily seen (by others) epiphany that I’ve had, that even though I know the origins of the Ikhwan and have the historical background of Qutb (Thank you, Lawrence Wright), it never occurred to me why he would entitle his book “Milestones.”

    It is because he knew the foolish kufrs who would always inhabit the rarified academic air of Western and other governments, the Clappers and Panettas, who would see the slower, swords-sheathed, schools-and-charity-abounding, organization as non-threatening, the same as other innocents think of organized labor leadership: taking them on face value, never ever understanding the real motives, never ever understanding that an organization could have a mission that wouldn’t show itself within the space of a fiscal year through the pronouncements from its oh-so-proud executives. Wouldn’t an organization who set up charities for orphans and widows and schools for as many who want them be all about charity and education? Yes, they’re Muslim, yes they hate America, but the charity! The schools! That’s as far as they go, so we don’t need to look beyond that.

    They cannot fathom the long jihad. They cannot be bothered to type a few letters into a search engine and read the Ikhwan’s own documents, the statements of its own members, the existence of the front organizations (“no, those don’t exist…you’re just a conspiracy theorist! I know I’m looking at the documentation, I see that the private statements made by the fronts’ public leaders are identical to those by bin Laden and Ahmadinejad, I can read the Qur’an backward, forward, online and have it blogged and spelled out to me, but you’re just a fearmonger!”[ed. Jason Lewis, are you listening? I like you but clue in! winoceros]

    Qutb knew that running around with scimitars blazing was the way to oblivion, because if there’s anything Western governments and their patriotic supporters understand, it’s an army of bad guys threatening the neighbors, and bringing their finest to bear against them.

    His faith was stronger than that, and his strategy lifted from the Leftists who had been at it for years. Move in, educate, defend, hold out your hands, palms-up, interfaith uber alles, take offense at slights, be a victim, move in more. One milestone.

    Introduce Islam as like devout Christianity, “conservative,” equate with local faith to elicit sympathy. Two milestones.

    Latch onto Western institutions and model your Islam outreach to be the doppleganger of existing respected things (J.D., B.A. in “Islamic Studies”, infiltrate “Middle East” Studies, etc. )Get funding from the Muslim world and lavish on grant-hungry academics used to begging for money who don’t have any problem with who is providing it. Three milestones.

    Realize the incredible wealth of Canada and America and work over decades to use that money, donated and stolen through identity, credit card, baby formula theft, cigarette tax stamp scams, as well as manipulating Western Muslims, who dutifully pay their zakat and donate to charities, not knowing that those dollars rent land for training camps and buy the bullets to kill local Muslim children in Bosnia and Gaza and blame it on the Jews and Christians, killing two birds with one stone. Those same Western Muslims read the papers and see the pictures…”tsk, tsk, those awful kufr, my imam is right. They are murdering us Muslims!” never realizing they paid for the murders themselves. Four milestones.

    Keep the long view, engage in Australian and American and Canadian and English politics, allow participation in the shirk of democracy and other detestable kufr practices, that would normally earn Muslims a place in the hellfire, because as Erdogan says, democracy is a train that you can get off once you reach the destination. Take over school boards, and council chambers and dampen the enthusiasm of local leaders who begin to wrinkle their brows at the looming threat and unchecked self-immolation of importing Muslims into your borders. Complete the work that had been temporarily halted by Charles Martel and fill Europe with the babies of Muslim wombs. Make sure budgets are replete with jizzya for extra wives and their children. Five milestones.

    Non-muslims are racists and Islamophobes, thereby decreasing public and media resistance by 90%. Six milestones.

    Write tract after tract imploring the young jihadist to show patience, wait and wait. Allah will work in his own time. Can’t hold them all back, but still necessary to strike terror into the hearts of the infidel, and anyway, it allows us to say how different and peaceful we are compared to them. Scrub mentions of any slips of the tongue regarding true intentions of the Ikhwan organizations (ISNA, MSA, CAIR, etc.) Speed is not the goal, totality is. Seven milestones.

    Make shari’a a cute cultural institution instead of what they know it to be: the Way, Islam is all its behaviors and rules and beliefs and who is to govern, all inclusive. Marvel that Westerners have cognitive problems understanding that Islam is a total thing, indivisible. Use that to the Muslims’ advantage. Use greed and cultural sensitivity impulses to insert shari’a compliant financial products into Western and international markets. More bullets into children and infidels. Eight milestones.

    ——————————–

    And so it goes. This is the Brotherhood. They don’t have a secular bone in their bodies. There is no secular Islam. There are only secular people refusing to let go of Islam because they either hope to bring Islam to their way of thinking or backsliders who have such an innate pride in their heritage they feel their own liberal ways deserve to be viewed as representative of the ideology, instead of representative of their own backsliding, blasphemous views. Or, in most cases, if they leave Islam or gainsay the Qur’an, they will find themselves being buried by infidels because no Muslim will touch their bodies.

    The Muslim Brotherhood is not an outsider in Egypt; they are the devout among them…Muslims that more liberal Egyptian Muslims acknowledge are practicing Islam exactly, because they can back up every single right-to-left word with the Qur’an and the Sunnah, but don’t really want to emulate because it would mean giving up the few liberal impulses they allow themselves, the backsliders. Do not discount the existence of the pyramids and ancient sites. The money that comes to Egypt from the West from tourism is the jizya they rightly are due. The Egyptologists confer by juxtaposition scientific integrity on Muslims in Egypt. How hard it must be for them to pretend to revere and idolize (shirk! blasphemy!) all those polytheist relics. They should be dust, but wave those shiny relics in front of the Westerners and watch the money roll in…Allahu Akbar!

    The academics and educated Egyptians don’t want the Brotherhood anywhere near power because it means all access to these Western ideas, inventions, education and modernity will wither, as happens with all Muslim-led nation-states. And when they are conscripted to fight Israel, and find themselves chasing their former colleagues with a gun, they will rue the loss of that opportunity, while they obligingly slit the Jewish throat. What a pity this all had to end.

    Qutb’s legacy in Egypt is just a sped-up version of what is happening in your schools, your county government, your human rights commissions, your military schools and your armies and your White House. Refuse to allow the slow march along the milestones. Denounce the Muslim Brotherhood. Denounce Islam. Or perish.

  14. says

    Obama told Bill O’Reilly: “The Muslim Brotherhood is one faction in Egypt. They don’t have majority support in Egypt, but they are well organized and THERE ARE STRAINS IN THEIR IDEOLOGY that are against the U.S., there’s no doubt about it…..”

    Obama: There are “strains” in Taliban and Al Qaeda’s ideology that are against the U.S., there’s no doubt about it. There are “strains” in Hamas’ ideology that are against the U.S., there’s no doubt about it. There are “strains” in Hezbollah’s ideology that are against the U.S., there’s no doubt about it. Yet there are strains in each of these – Hamas, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Muslim Brotherhood -that are not against the U.S. and we can deal with these strains.

  15. says

    This director of intelligence doesn’t seem very bright and I suspect he is making the USA safe only for Islamic apologist and disinformation operatives. This administration has got to go next year!

  16. says

    The M. brotherhood is secular?

    How many Christians do the have as members? How many Jews do they have as members? How many woman do they have as members? How many queers do they have as members? Is it a religion? Or an ideology? It is an ideology, under the guise or RELIGION. Obammy is a complete moron.

    Wake up people, it’s almost too late….

  17. says

    This isn’t the first time this Clapper fellow has come off looking like a dunce, I remember him having a recent “deer on the headlights” moment about a month or so ago. It is another example of the incompetence of the Obama administration and their willingness to ignore threats to our freedom.

  18. says

    Director of National Intelligence James Clapper discussed the Islamist group during a hearing on Capitol Hill earlier Thursday. He testified that the organization has “pursued social ends” and a “betterment of the political order,” and downplayed its religious underpinnings. (my bold)

    And so does Hamas, Hezbollah, Taliban, and other ‘mainstream’ Islam flag waving Jihadists pursuing “social ends and political betterment” to promote their Stone Age ‘religious’ underpinnings, mainly to impose their malevolent, primitive Sharia on their target societies. This is an old ‘whitewash’… soap, rinse, and repeat. The Islamic Muslim Brotherhood truth is far uglier, and absurdly laughable… and evil. Get real.

  19. says

    WHAT AN IDOIT CLAPPER IS, OBAMA SHOULD ASK FOR HIS RESIGNATION. ALSO, HE WAS TESTIFYING UNDER OATH WHICH SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERABLE IMPACT. IT IS UNSETTLING THAT SUCH A PERSON IS ENTRUSTED WITH OUR SECURITY.

  20. says

    These statements by Clapper, echo what Obama ALSO feels about this so called brotherhood; Obama, Soros AND the two
    Podesta brothers that are involved in their OWN organization
    ALSO are embedded with Soros-who is actively working to put
    this group at the head of the Egyptian people.

    Please read it for yourselves at A.I.M.- as Cliff Kincaid and the site give full information on this. Thanks

  21. says

    I cannot believe Mr. Clapper said that. He knows better! Either he was told by the White House what to say or he’s lost his mind completely and should resign immediately.

    clap, clap, the clapper and turn it off!

  22. says

    Posters, please go to the A.I.M. article for clarification on this ‘so called gaffe by Clapper'(it is NO gaffe, as Obama, etal are of one mind on this Muslim Brotherhood) and
    read it for yourselves about the Soros Connection/Obama/ and
    Podesta Brothers involvement. You will be amazed, as Cliff Kincaid tells it like it is. I have sent this onto Beck:

    Article
    @ AIM “Soros-paid Scribes Cover Their Tracks in Egypt”

    of February 9, 2011 by Cliff Kincaid

    Besides JihadWatch, at AIM & Atlas Shrugged-we ARE getting the truth of what is happening to America, OUR Republic, at
    the hands of those who would like to destroy our nation.

    Please continue to be informed by these very important sites

  23. says

    If the Director of National Intelligence is so totally bereft of all logic, facts and reality, then it must be the foxes who are guarding the hens (American people)!

    With such creatures ‘protecting’ America’s National Security, who needs enemies?

    Anyone with two braincells with access to Google would have come to the conclusion that the Muslim Brotherhood is a Fundamentalist organization that wants to impliment Sharia all over the world, not just the Muslims.

    Sharia, based upon Muhammad’s Quran & Sunna is Hatemongering, Warmongering, Misogynist, Racist and UNGODLY!

    Those who are in doubt, just Google ‘alrassooli’.

    There cannot be a shadow of a doubt that he was only parrotting his mentor Obama’s ideas thus making him an accomplice in deliberately and criminally deceiving the American people.

    God help the American people and the free world with such cretins ‘defending’ them.

  24. says

    When the global jihad (planned and orchestrated by the Muslim Brotherhood, through its various branches) is engaged in the “deceit of war” they are “secular” and “like Christianity” and “peaceful.” When they are sure of their victory, they will be very, very Islamic.

  25. says

    Clapper is not stupid neither ill informed..He is just part of Obama’s Change we believe in..I wont say that a part global jihad..but we will see the product.

  26. says

    dear thomas,

    the last sentence of the article from the n.e.r. that you were referring to, states:

    “Our suggestion is that the House Select Intelligence Committee inform the Obama White House that Clapper is a clear and present danger to America’s security in the war against Islamic terrorism, whether domestic or foreign, and should be fired.

    i suggest that this would only be window dressing…
    it should be hussein obama that ‘should be fired’! and the sooner – the better.
    when you see these two incompetent idiots (napolitano and crapper) facing the camera like two deer caught in the headlights…and realize that these morons have a job to ‘protect’ us…

    i am sorry. if i WANT a project to fail and not look like it was *I* directly the cause for the failure, i would hire the worst incompetent cretins i could find and put them in charge…
    the muslim in chief KNOWS what he is doing…he must be stopped!

  27. says

    You are very kind. It has been welling up in me for a while, but as well know well here, brief arguments do not suit to counter the long jihad.

    Do not claim ‘conspiracy theory’ when the map is already in its 100th or so printing.

    Kudos to Robert Spencer on his inroads with Glenn Beck. This is a major accomplishment.

  28. says

    Os use of the word STRAIN downplays the terrorist threat…he made it sound like there are only a rare few terrorists in Egypt, and that they are to small to worry about…horsec*ap-ola…

    O is a sellout to all American citizens, and the mass media loves him so much, he can never say or do anything wrong.

    Travesty!~

  29. says

    Gerald,

    It bothers me that not only (also infiltrated) mainstream media but many United States citizens do not seem to recognize what we have allowed to be put in place in the White House. People, the United States is considered the Enemy by our President and his cronies that he has gathered to picnic on the White House lawn. Marxist and communists are not considered enemy by them, as that is who they are. They consider any group, nation, alliance not supporting America and Democracy their friend.

    Right on Gerald.

  30. says

    Cornelius wrote:

    The clarification itself is eyewash. Clapper was specific in characterizing the MB ITSELF as “largely secular”…he wasn’t talking about Mubarak or Egyptian society as a whole.
    ………………………..

    Very true, Cornelius. What blatant crap.

    I suppose it would have been even worse if the administration had stood by this idiotic statement, but still…

    The biggest concern I have is that this was not just Clapper being clueless, or acting on his own, but that he was following the White House line, and they had to backtrack”and throw Clapper under the bus”when they found such a characterization wouldn’t fly with the American people.

    Glenn Beck just showed a clip of Clapper’s interview with Diane Sawyer. She”hardly a “hard-hitting” interviewer”asked him a number of questions about Jihad terrorist events, and he looked like a deer in the headlights. He was slow to react, had to be prompted, and turned out to be familiar with none of the incidents.

    I can’t believe this is our “Director of National Intelligence”.