Robert Spencer on Fox Business: the Muslim Brotherhood, Michael Scheuer and Israel's Right to Exist

Last night I was on Eric Bolling's Money Rocks on Fox Business, along with Scott Wheeler, Garland Nixon, Kimberly Guilfoyle, and Bo Dietl. We discussed the Muslim Brotherhood and the situation in Egypt, as well as Michael Scheuer's rather alarming statement that neither Israel nor the U.S. have any right to exist.

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Spencer managed to hit some very fast moving targets.

Impressed! Robert Spencer was succinct and to the point. Verbally, he floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee.

Thank our Lord Jesus Christ, we have brilliantly brave and highly intelligent Robert here - to counter Islam's consquest over us, especially of our free Judeo-Christian/Western civilization! That ex-CIA Scheuer sounds suspectedly a Neo-Nazi, who have infiltrated the CIA and is on some oil-rich Muslim kings payroll! Such traitor's bank account should be investigated!

Michael Scheuer's rather alarming statement that neither Israel nor the U.S. have any right to exist.
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Alarming indeed. That Scheuer served in the CIA for 22 years and was chief of the Osama bin Laden unit at the Counterterrorist Center in the late 1990s is profoundly disturbing.

One has to wonder how many other "Michael Scheuers" are working in "security".

Attorney General Ramsey Clark comes to mind, among others...

Oh I forgot, Mr. Wheeler, there - if we keep having brave and truly intelligent Republicans especially in Intelligence, like him; maybe 2012 won't be doomed after all for the Rep and the free Judeo-Christian majority America civilization! I was disappointed by Allen West, who shows such promising stature in bravely criticizing Islam, but shows typical SLAVE-mentality attitude to Islam, when backed into a corner despite being a Colonel (like Bush did when still glorifying Islam; despite of the mass murder of mostly non-Muslim Americans on 9/11 under Islam)! At - http://europenews.dk/en/node/39741 ; In - http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/dcblog/2011/02/allen_west_defends_remarks_on.html
Allen West defends remarks on Islam

By William Gibson February 2, 2011 02:44 PM
Several religious leaders told South Florida Congressman Allen West on Wednesday they have “deep concern” over his recent comments about a Muslim colleague in Congress and about “your tendency to offer intemperate comments about Islam.”
West immediately replied that he respects Islam, has fought to protect religious freedom and has directed his scorn only at “a radical jihadist movement.”.....

hi there! whaere can I find this guy's statement that the US and Israel do not have a right to exist?
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hey miriam rove, how pathetic! What's your problem with my free speech? Why don't you tell me bravely what it is!

Good to see Eric Bolling doing some do diligence on a follow up from his last program with Robert and Scheurer.

Though short on time as usual there were some good salient points coming from all parties, including Robert, Wheeler,and Guilfoyle.

We keep hearing the Egyptians are more sophisticated, but some of the polls don't bear that out when it comes to questions about sharia law.

There is no question in my mind that Israel is once again put at great risk.

It is to bad that the Egyptians can't just put there own damn house in order and leave other countries alone thus allowing some peaceful stability in the region.As usual radical Islamic factions like the Muslim Brotherhood will always bring the element of hate into the equation which as always leads to variations of self destruction among the more civilized communities.

It's important to point out (endlessly) that the recent Pew Research poll reveals that statements like this are foolish, and naive’ - "there are lots of moderates in cosmopolitan Egypt” LOL unbelievable. How about 80 percent of Egyptians want to bury women up to their shoulders and stone the to death for adultery, and murder those that reject allah/satan. Once that fact has been assimilated how can anyone think the Brotherhood isn’t the next logical rulers.

miriam rove:

If you had watched the above video you will actually see Michael Scheuer make those exact comments.

Impressive to say the least. I hope this means that at least one news station is beginning to credit you with being an authority who has the facts on islam. I would love to see you get a lot more air time. And instead of FOX having a rep from the Brookings Institute, I'd love to see reps from the Hudson Institute on air for a change.

I have no problem with your free speech. I have said this to you before. Frankly, you and those Jihadists are cut from the same cloth and you are no different from them. you and them justify everthing for your religous vile bull shit point of view. thanks to our "Lord Jesus:. while you are thanking him, the catholic priests are raping and sodomizing 9 year alter boys! just todat the Delaware archdoices payed out 77 millin dollars to settle cases. let's get real. your judeo chrstian religion has commited many crimes too. you must have short memory. i ahte religions and Islam is on top of my list. at least jews and chrstian reformed them selves while muslims are still in the 6th century and that is why they are killing us.

To Bolling: Thanks for having Robert on there (who did a great job as usual) but please rise above sports broadcaster. Thnx!

hey miriam, I have replied to you before which you cunningly avoid to answer back intelligently! You don't like me mentioning my Lord Christ, and yet you're imposing your non-God beliefs on me? Get real! Why are you generalizing cunningly as if Christianity and Islam are the same? Judeo-Christian religion is about our shared God anger at evilness and reconciliation through Salvation for repenters; thus He gave the Ten Commandments that founded civilized modern Western law and society, which you're enjoying right now. Evil people have hijacked Judeo-Christianity like the evil priests but our religion is not built on such evilness. But Islam and its false Islamic god are created by the Arabic Pedophile rapist Mohammed to legitimize evilness including slavery rape of children, both boys and girls, including conquest captives such as Jewish children, and the first systematic racial Genocide of the Jews to create pure Nazi-like Arabian kingdom – so you see the difference now?! By the way, another lie from you; here's the real truth instead - between God-hating Socialists Hitler, Stalin and Mao, they've butchered around 40 million innocent human beings especially Jews and Christians! Hitler was a Socialist/Communist Left who loved Islam (and the Arabic-led Muslims have always and still are using or advising Western Socialists and Nationalists to promote Arabic conquest and Jew-hatred); see http://constitutionalistnc.tripod.com/hitler-leftist/id9.html

HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST
John J. Ray (M.A.; Ph.D.)

mackie, thanks for that very obvious information to miriam rove there - if one had cared to watch the video!

on the contary, I hate Stalin, Mao and hitler more that I hate religions.
as you mentioned" Evil people have hijacked Chritianity!!"

by accounts of those mulims who condemn the Jihadists as those who hijacked Islam!!
sounds familiar?

Hey miriam rove, you cunningly ignores my question with your lies! I will keep repeating this truth to you and you can't shut me up!Islam is not hijacked by evil people but is evil and evil right through the foundation of it, as as created by the Arabic Pedophile rapist, robber, slave-owner (including sexual slaves such as young Jewish captive girls), and mass murderer of the Jews, Mohammed!

Christianity is founded on Jesus Christ, so my question for you is this: name one sin, or evil thing, that Jesus had committed.

Since you seem to think that all religions are evil, then you need to prove your point by producing at least ONE evil thing that Jesus Christ did during His life here on earth to justify your claim.

And finding fault in Christians is NOT the proof I'm talking about, but you need to find fault in Christianity's founder, Jesus Christ. So get to work and provide the proof I'm asking for - otherwise, be quiet. Hey, if you can't produce a case against Jesus Christ, then you're only making a fool out of yourself. OK, so get to work and name at least one sin that Jesus committed.

I await your reply ...

Everybody read Isaiah 19 the whole thing!

This stops now. I'm not going to allow this thread to be derailed. This is a non-sectarian site, and proselytizing is not allowed. And the wholesale trashing of organized religion -- including Miriam Rove's appalling comment above -- also accomplishes nothing.

The jihadists and their enablers would love to see us fall into squabbling among ourselves.

Don't give them what they want.

You're right, Katharina, miriam rove is a pathetic liar. In fact, he is attracted to lies. First, he was attracted to islam and its lies; now hes jumped on the deceptive bandwagon by promoting the falsehood that Christianity is just as evil as islam - which is patently false and absurd. Yep, this guy has a thing for lies. Hes only traded in one lie for another.

You so full of it! fundamental Christians are not like fundamental muslims or jihadist, I just go ahead and quote Walid Shoebat, he said: "I admitt a christian fundamentalist may give you a headache, but a muslim fundamentalist takes the whole head right off!"

I wonder where you take the nerve from to put jihadist and true christian in one and the same pot, the last time I looked I did not see a christian suizidbomber, but plenty of muslim suizid bombers, we are getting very close to 17.000 islamic terror attacks since 911!

And I got news for you, islam reached its peak in europe, now the people woke up in europe and they will boot islam back to mekka! The people in europe are so fed up, a poll states that 87 % of all germans reject islam and 40% of all germans want to actually fight islam and their numbers are growing and in all the other european countries one can see the same thing. I hope the islamist are going back on thier own, but if they do not they will pay, europe is on the brink of a civil war!!!

Oops, sorry Marisol ...I was writing my comment before yours had posted.

I love these little-known money shows on Fox Business and CNBC. The guests don't fool around.

"I just go ahead and quote Walid Shoebat, he said: "I admitt a christian fundamentalist may give you a headache, but a muslim fundamentalist takes the whole head right off!"

True! ...that's a great quote from Walid Shoebat :)

hi there! whaere can I find this guy's statement that the US and Israel do not have a right to exist?
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Hi Miriam,

Long time no see!

The Statement by Michael Scheuer came out during a Glenn Beck show in which Robert Spencer appeared as a guest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Kk2ogpJrY&feature=player_embedded is the link to view the show on youtube.

The statement was also reiterated during a follow up show on Fox Business as seen here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPorA1G6Pqo&feature=player_embedded

Spot on Champ and FreeSpirit! I notice the trend now by Muslim fanatics trying to shut us up on criticizing Islam, by generalizing Islam as if the same as Judeo-Christianity, or pretending to be atheists. Thus, trying to impose a rule that no one should criticize any religion including Islam, because they supposedly hate all religion - how cunning is that?! But yet, these so-called atheists will defend Islam like crazy and criticize Christians and Christianity for no rational reason despite that we're talking about the continuous evil crimes committed under Islam!

Katharina said "hey miriam rove, how pathetic! What's your problem with my free speech? Why don't you tell me bravely what it is!"

I have no problems and I'm sure Miriam doesn't either with your free speech. The issue I have with your comment is this

That ex-CIA Scheuer sounds suspectedly a Neo-Nazi, who have infiltrated the CIA and is on some oil-rich Muslim kings payroll! Such traitor's bank account should be investigated!

When you make statements like this, it makes you sound as paranoid and crazy as the leftists who make comments like this. Without any evidence to show that he is a neo-nazi it just sounds like you are throwing crap out there.

Not everyone in the Military or even CIA are conservatives or right wing. There is the tendency in large numbers for that to be the case, but it is changing. It is also the case that not everyone who visits Jihadwatch is right wing or conservative. In fact, I disagree wth the calls for a revivalism of Christianity that many on the right are calling for. This is not what our founding fathers would want to see, one religion that is forced on all others. They went to great pains to make that point and to even include Islam as a religion despite knowing its negatives.

this is a man of integrety and honor. he usually makes his opponent look stupid look stupid because when you speak the truth you dont have to hestitate while you think of a lie to cover your self up. if he wasn't so important in what he does i wish he would run for office. we need more people like him representing americans. check out brigette gabriel of act for america and pamela gellar of atlasshrugs.com theey too aree warriors of the truth on radical islam.

One has to wonder how many other "Michael Scheuers" are working in "security".

Graven, there's that FBI Special Moslem Agent who turned off his wire during a critical dinner with Sami al-Arian. He suffered dire consequences for his insubordinance: nothing was done to punish him, he was promoted to the Arabian Desk and given a nice fat raise.

He's one.

The black guy is a Marxist with a materialist answer for everything, as if unemployment and food prices is what drives the totalitarian temptation.

And don't forget the FBI agent, about one year after 9/11, who refused to wear a wire to record conversations in a mosque. He said "Muslims do not wear wires to record other Muslims." He kept his job for a while. Then was let go.
However, later he was hired free-lance to do the same job, for 1 million $. Hiring Muslims as FBI or CIA agents is such a bad idea.

Great debate among the panelists ...and I love seeing Robert on Fox News and hearing his valuable insights. Hope we'll see and hear more from Robert on Fox and elsewhere ...

And as appalling as M.Scheuer's remarks are - about Israel and America not having a right to exist, they do reveal the evil behind the scenes. At least now we know some of the alarming views that some hold within the national security apparatus - views that they generally keep well hidden from the media. Even Scott Wheeler said that one day he sat in disbelief as a high-ranking official explained this very same scenario to him - the one expressed by Scheuer; and I wish that Wheeler had named this high-ranking official, but of course I understand why he didn't.

Robert is right ...islamic jihadists want to destroy both Israel AND the United States. My hope is that more people will pay attention and listen to him.


Robert, you're my new hero. After seeing the Spencer/Kreeft debate video on Patrick Madrid's blog I was incredibly impressed. I immediately downloaded two of your books at Kindle and am working my way through them.

I'm glad to see at least one real Catholic is responsible enough to clearly, and soberly address the rapidly expanding threat from these emerging Islamist movements which now face free peoples in every corner of our world.

No doubt about it, Islam is the religion of Satan—his ancient religion of hatred and murder.

Muhammed and his followers emerged, not only to finally institutionalize that hatred and murder, but also went on to add false worship of the Great God as their final, damnable, offence.

The flip side positive is…Christians, and unbelievers everywhere are noting the Islamist threat. The necessary and irreversible backlash has begun.

Did anyone see this article about the King Hearings?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0211/Groups_slam_Islam_hearings_as_modernday_McCarthyism_.html#comments

Peter King is getting jumped on by the Muslim groups and their apologists. If you have read any of my other posts about the King hearings you'll remember what I said. I disagreed with Robert and Pamela in their contention that the hearings were a waste of time. They are not! What the King hearings are doing is exposing the light on the "behind the scenes" activities of these organizations and their players.

If Robert Spencer and Steve Emerson had sat on the panel of witness testimony, they would now be getting targeted and having applied pressure brought to bear on them. That would be bad especially given the recent events in the Middle East. Currently Robert has been serving as a panelist on a number of shows with regard to Muslim Brotherhood and Islamic goals. I think sometimes you have to accept that things will happen that you have no control over and that things do happen for a reason.

Robert, whatever role you are supposed to play, it will be laid out for you each day. You may not like how Peter King conducted his hearings, but I do think you should support him. Our enemies have had 30 - 40 years to get their game on and they are now in full court press. We are just getting warmed up. If we make mistakes, so be it. As long as we continue to educate ourselves and take advantage of opportunities where we may not see them at first, we will turn those opportunities into something really positive.

One more point. We are lacking direction and clear goals. Our foes had created their 5 year plans and laid out goals for their agenda. We need to do the same type of thing. Our goals and intentions should be made clear to anyone who is on our side. Some things should be kept close to the vest, but in other areas we need to make it clear and public where we stand. An example of a goals that is shared and public would be something like

-Passage of anti-sharia law in all 50 US Sates and its territories.

-Pressing the courts to treat people like Faisal Shahad as seditious and remove their citizenship status when they say something like "I swore allegiance but I lied" after committing a terrorist act.

-Pressing the courts and judicial system to try and convict members of Code Pink for their activities with criminal terrorist organization Hamas.

-Press the public to recognize Islam as not just a religion but as a Political Ideology and recognize it as such. In this way, we can isolate Islam and remove as much of its protection so we can go after Jihadists and terrorist.

-Press for recognition of CAIR and the alphabet soup of Muslim organizations as part of the Muslim Brotherhood and label them terrorists organizations.

These are a few I can think of off-hand. We need to stop sitting around discussing and get out and start doing.

Excellent showing, Robert. And I'm very pleased to know that Fox is making use of your knowledge about Islam to brief some of their interviewers/presenters.

Alarmed Pig Framer wrote:

...there's that FBI Special Moslem Agent who turned off his wire during a critical dinner with Sami al-Arian. He suffered dire consequences for his insubordinance: nothing was done to punish him, he was promoted to the Arabian Desk and given a nice fat raise.

He's one.
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Yes, Indeed, APF—and I'm sure there are many more. And note—I am not referring here to naive or clueless people who should know better, but just those who are actively anti-American, anti-Israel, anti-Western, and anti-democratic.

Started off nicely, and then descended into the usual shouting match where the most uninformed with the loudest voices make the least sense.

But the situation being absurd as it is all credit to Eric Bolling for bringing RS on the show....

Any debate with more than 2 people invariably becomes a mess. Spencer did a great job given the time and the interruptions, but he must have felt bad to have to let so many crazy things go unanswered. Ok, I get that lengthy one-on-one debates don’t fit mainstream tv format, but they should at least limit the number of people.

In any case, this recent pew research debunked completely this claim that Egyptian muslims are moderate, cosmopolitan, and don’t want sharia. Those that say their primary motivation is the social problems are clearly so filled with class warfare that can’t even detect any other type of motivation possible.

Wri7913, you write
"We are lacking direction and clear goals. Our foes had created their 5 year plans and laid out goals for their agenda. We need to do the same type of thing. Our goals and intentions should be made clear to anyone who is on our side."

Well said, I agree. Goals that are clear and well-argued are very useful. They can be used by political parties and groups. And everywhere where Islam and Democracy are discussed, in a global context.

One goal you mentioned I agree should be stated very clear; that Islam, at least parts of it, is to be considered a political ideology, in fact hostile to democracy. In clear articulated and broadcasted ways. This would enable leaders in Democratic Nations to finally distinquish between pro- or anti-Democratic immigrants in a legal way.

I myself was impressed with the explanations of Robert and Nonie Darwish about the real glaring differences between Islamic Law and the constitution and laws of many democracies.

On top of the list was for me the despicable Islamic law about death- or heavy- penalty for apostasy from Islam. Also the censorship on freedom of speech by Islam. And the clear discrimination of women and non-Muslims under Islam.

A goal also could well be: Demanding from Muslims in Democratic Nations to clearly choose on oath, on paper, whenever and wherever clear differences between Islamic and Democratic laws exist. And be held accountable and be controlled for those choices.

And a goal might be demand clear written choices from Muslims on the issue of highest loyalty either to the Democratic state they live in or the Ummah. And clear choices about solidarity with either the perpetrators or victims of clear documented discrimination by Muslims of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

I think that if Muslims and Islam-apologists DENY, namely that Islam is anti-Democratic, that they should also be compelled to DENOUNCE, and not just against anti-Democratic Islamic tenets and laws, but positively in favor over those for their Democratic counterparts.


Any debate with more than 2 people invariably becomes a mess. Spencer did a great job given the time and the interruptions, but he must have felt bad to have to let so many crazy things go unanswered. Ok, I get that lengthy one-on-one debates don’t fit mainstream tv format, but they should at least limit the number of people.

In any case, this recent pew research debunked completely this claim that Egyptian muslims are moderate, cosmopolitan, and don’t want sharia. Those that say the root of all this is the social problems are clearly so filled with class warfare that can’t even detect any other type of motivation possible.

Any debate with more than 2 people invariably becomes a mess. Spencer did a great job given the time and the interruptions, but he must have felt bad to have to let so many crazy things go unanswered. Ok, I get that lengthy one-on-one debates don’t fit mainstream tv format, but they should at least limit the number of people.

In any case, this recent pew research debunked completely this claim that Egyptian muslims are moderate, cosmopolitan, and don’t want sharia. Those that say the root of all this is the social problems are clearly so filled with class warfare that can’t even detect any other type of motivation possible.

It's troubling that security experts seem to figure only the cities matter. They are the places that have been exposed to a modern cosmopolitan existence. Cities of 1 million or more people are less than 17% of the population. And perhaps 50% of the cities support modernism. The others are "poor" gravitating to where the money is and can be obtained. Add to that the 10 million Christians and you have perhaps 21% of Egypt who might support a modern working secular meaningfully rather than symbolic;y democratic government.

Polls show approximately that level of split when you speak of support for the unspeakable Sharia law and Jihad across Egypt in recent polls.

Sometimes a tyrant who works honestly to drag his country out of the stoning age into the modern world is better than either a Mugabe or a pseudo-democratic government run by the Muslim Brotherhood. This is a cynical approach, to be sure. It's either that or WW-III sometime dreadfully soon.

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The difference, that this site tries to point out, is that Islam rationalizes (there is no justification) behavior such as stealing from non-Muslims because they are non-Muslims, raping women, murdering people by accusing them of even slight sexual impropriety without significant proof, etc., etc., etc., and codifying (legalizing) such Islamic principal through Sharia law which enforces Islamic principles. Are there sinners in the Christian churches and Jewish Synagogues? Of course there are, the Church and Synagogue are made up of people who make mistakes and sin. The difference is that Christianity and the Jewish Faith both include the Ten Commandments and teach that such behaviors are sinful and displeasing to God.

read the PDF file here. The English translation begins on page 16.

http://www.investigativeproject.org/document/id/20

Very informative videos!
The viewers questions on Mohammads pedophilia,suicide bombers yelling "Allah Akbar" before blowing themselves up were devastating to the Imam!

It's obvious the biggest vulnerability Islam has is the KORAN where verses repeatedly demand the Muslims never to make friends of Jews,christians,and infidels ,but offer to them 3 times to become muslims and if they refuse to... kill them or subjugate them!.The Koran also says to kill the Apostates from islam and the women who dishonor their husbands.The Koran tells momen have no rights and must live under the will of their male relatives or husbands.

As koran is against Human Rights,Democracy,and human dignity,we must ask the Supreme Court to declare it Unconstitutional and not to be preached in any Mosque ,so USA will be protected from Islamization.If other countries follow in banning the Koran,then Islam will collapse around the World!
READ THE KORAN!

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