Top Shia cleric says mosques hub of Islamic Revolution

He is talking about a political revolution, for in Islam traditionally the political is inseparable from the religious. "Top Shia Cleric: Mosques hub of the Islamic Revolution," from the Ahlul Bayt News Agency, February 8 (thanks to Twostellas):

Top Shia cleric in holy city of Qom calls mosques as the birthplace of the Islamic Revolution.

Ayatollah Seyyed Mohammad Ali Alavi Gorgani in a meeting with the committee members of the mosques recommended to recall the memories of the Islamic Revolution and revalue the Islamic Revolution of Iran.

"We have to know where we gained this revolution and when the revolution conquered" said Ayatollah Seyyed Mohammad Ali Alavi Gorgani stressing mosques as the place where the turning points of the revolution happened.

Iranian grand jurisprudent said," Uprising of Imam Hossein (AS) was a blessing for our Islamic Revolution. He also started his uprising from mosques, therefore we all owe the victory of the Islamic Revolution to mosques."

He highlighted the necessity of constant communication with the mosques and said," One of the most important points that people need to be noticed about is to keep close to the mosques because whatever we have is a blessing of the mosques."...

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"The mosques are our barracks." Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

I believe him. The Muslim contours everything in terms of a military/you-are-to-be-conquered campaign.

America, you would be wise to pay attention.

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/06/mosques-are-our-barracks.html

Unfortunately America, for the post part, is not wise. We cannot comprehend the intertwining of religion and politics, certainly not a military strategy. Anything other than separation of church and state is unfathomable to us. Most of us were taught to "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's". We don't see God and Caesar as one.
Anyone who hints at Islamic militarism or the danger Islam poses to free societies is branded an Islamophobe, paranoid, or worse.
We won't heed the warnings and so we're going to have to learn this lesson the hard way.

"We have to know where we gained this revolution and when the revolution conquered" said Ayatollah Seyyed Mohammad Ali Alavi Gorgani stressing mosques as the place where the turning points of the revolution happened."

I noticed he didn't anything about spreading love, peace, happiness, or being content with allowing other peoples to be able to safely practice their religion...


At the end Ayatolla Mohammad Ali Alavi Gorgani expressed happiness that," 32 years after the Islamic Revolution, we have the independence of our own country therefore we have to value this blessing."

What does 'we' mean in this context? Mainstream Islam?

The Islamic Revolution that conquered Iran is nothing but Mainstream Islam. This is Islam in all its true forms, where 'extremists' hide within the fabric of mainstream, protected by mainstream Muslims, and all dreaming of a World Caliphate run by Muslims to dominate over all other peoples of the globe. Totally 'mainstream' Islam, and the mosques is where they breed this Muslim-valued-blessing 'wet dream'. ... Sick!!

What we could conclude from these remarks is that mosques must be excluded a priori from the Geneva Conventions regarding treatment of places of worship in time of war. The Conventions already exclude any place of worship from attack and destruction if such places are used to conduct acts of war. The same applies to schools, hospitals, etc. Civilized armies usually withhold their attacks on such places until it is verified on the battlefield that they are being used to conduct hostile activities. Many a mujaheddin in Iraq has met his 72 virgins due to a mistaken belief that the Americans would hesitate to fire upon a mosque from which the mujaheddin conducted their attacks.

The statements by Erdogan and the mad mullahs are prima facie evidence that mosques worldwide are designed to be used to conduct armed hostilities so they are inadvertently providing support to the argument that any protest related to mosque destruction presented in international courts that consider violations of the Law of War are nullified and that all such destruction is amply justified.

Who among us here did not already know this?

MuslimaNoMore wrote:

"The mosques are our barracks." Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
............................

You beat me to it. The first thing that came to my mind was that quote by Erdogan.

I would like to hear more about how you came to leave Islam. You must be a very brave woman.

Read how Islam's mullah/mosque infrastructure spreads fear and controls Islamic society at:
http://islamsfatalflaw.blogspot.com/

Some articles on the nature and uses of mosques, that may be helpful for those new to this site and this subject, who are reading over my shoulder, either now as I write, or in the future.

First, the testimony of an apostate from Islam, who is still stuck within the lands of Islam, so must conceal his apostasy.

http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2006/02/inside-forbidden-fortress.html

Saturday, February 25, 2006

'Inside the Forbidden Fortress'.

Excerpt:

"...mosques were actually not just places of worship but also the places for Moslems to gather for any reason deemed necessary.

"Mosques are the place where Moslems used to gather not just to pray, but to listen to Mohammed (or another appropriately devout follower of Muhammed) harangue the faithful, prepare for battles/wars, and most importantly, to store weapons and captured booty.



"If in the event a Moslem-controlled settlement or town was ever assaulted by a non Moslem force, the mosque would be the location most important for the infidels to capture. {This is where the Israelis made their big mistake, in 1967; as soon as they had control of the Temple Mount, the two mosques/ Mohammedan fortresses/ gang HQs there - the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa mosque - should have been razed to the ground [or if Israeli archaeologists could not bear to do that, then neatly dismantled stone by stone and deposited across the border in Jordanian territory, with instructions for reassembly, lego-set-style] and the site declared to be removed from Muslim control and totally offlimits to Muslims henceforward, though open to Jews, Christians and all other non-Muslims of good will - dda}.

"The mosques of yesteryear (and this is still true to this day in many places) are literally strongholds, fortresses designed to resist attack.

Whoever controls the mosque controls in fact the surrounding area-- something the coalition forces in Afghanistan and Iraq hopefully are already aware of....".

Now, an article by Hindu Indian-American politician, Vijay Kumar:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/vijay-kumar-the-muslim-mosque-a-state-within-a-state.html

Vijay Kumar: "The Muslim mosque: A state within a state".

Now, from an apostate from Islam, now a Christian, 'Sam Solomon'

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/28874

Saturday, 31 July 2010

'What is a Mosque? An Interview with Sam Solomon'

by Jerry Gordon (August 2010)

Excerpt:
'Gordon: Greetings Mr. Solomon and thank you for consenting to this interview. Let us start with the simple question, what is a mosque and what is its basic function in the Muslim community?

'Solomon: A mosque, totally unlike a church or a synagogue, serves the function of orchestrating and mandating every aspect of “life” in a Muslim community from the religious, to the political, to the economic, to the social, to the military.'

Finally, an article by an Israeli Jewish geographer, on the meaning of the way in which Muslims generally build and place their mosques.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1239710820237&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

Apr 29, 2009 20:29 | Updated Apr 30, 2009 18:09
"More than a coincidence: Minarets, geography and power"

By SETH J. FRANTZMAN

From a jihadwatch discussion thread, five years ago.

A Malaysian non-Muslim and an Indian non-Muslim described how mosques had been used, in their homelands.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/07/malaysia-faith-forum-to-defy-mob.html

tjwork | July 22, 2006 8:47 AM

'Lets put it this way, the non muslims are living in a virtual reality of practicing their faith freely.

'Why because the muslims seldom respect their religion.

'Gone were the days of muslims & hindus helping one another to build small mosques & temples.

'The muslim fanatics in malaysia have embedded themselves in the societys' core making this more complex than it ever seems.

'The only problem I see is that the majority muslims are illeterate & less than 1% I knew actually read the koran, They dont even read any other books. They rely on the information feed by the imams.

**This was evident during the race riots (may 13, 1969) where mosques' loud speakers were encouraging muslims to take arms & kill the chinese.** {my emphasis - dda}

'The non muslims have been trying to ensure the constitution is preserved & not to allow the muslims to hijack it.

'The last meeting was almost a disaster. Even the police were not able to contain the mob that were distrupting the meeting.

I have serious doubts that this forum could jump start the revival of the real constitution, but everyone including the 40,000 ex-muslims (in Perak that could not change their Religion status from Muslim to Christian & Etc) are quiet about this stand up, they might have a slim chance.

'For 1 thing I would like to see is the abolishment of the stupidest rule where a non muslim MUST convert to marry a Muslim. This rule has already violated the right to practice a religion."

Money quote:

"This {Muslim obedience to imams - dda} was evident during the race riots (may 13, 1969) **where mosques' loud speakers were encouraging muslims to take arms & kill the [non-Muslim - dda] chinese.** {my emphasis - dda}".

The Indian poster then chimed in:

arjun.sevak | July 22, 2006 12:06 PM

"This was evident during the race riots (may 13, 1969) where mosques' loud speakers were encouraging muslims to take arms & kill the chinese."

'In every single riot in India in the past 60 years, **mosque speakers have been at the hands of fanatic imamas who scream at the muslims to kill the infidels.** {my emphasis - dda}

' The last major riots were in Godhra, when muslims set fire to several compartments of a train carrying Hindu pilgrims. This they did at Signal Falia, a muslim hovel near the tracks.

'Survivors gave statements that **the imam of the mosque was screaming at the muslim mobs to kill all they could lay their hands on** {my emphasis - dda}."

I don't think the Hamburg mosque - enemy forward base, jihad recruiting-and-indoctrination-centre, fortress, arsenal, magazine - should be allowed to have a loudspeaker. Or what happened in India and Malaysia might one day happen in Hamburg.

Actually, I don't think there should *be* a mosque in Hamburg, let alone one with a loudspeaker.

For that matter, there shouldn't be any *Mohammedans* in Hamburg at all, full stop.

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