Turkish PM Erdogan, in Germany, urges Turks not to assimilate

What is striking about this is that whenever there is jihadist unrest in European countries, the mainstream media starts wringing its hands about how the British or French or Germans have not done enough to assimilate Muslim immigrants. That those immigrants are called upon not to assimilate always escapes their notice.

"Erdogan Urges Turks Not to Assimilate," by Özlem Gezer and Anna Reimann in Spiegel Online, February 28 (thanks to C. Cantoni):

Thousands of Turkish immigrants gave Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan a rock star welcome in Germany on Sunday in a show of national pride that remains fervent, even after decades spent in Germany. He told them they remain part of Turkey, and urged them to integrate into German society -- but not to assimilate.

The lyric keeps echoing around the hall in Düsseldorf. "The land belongs to us all." The sentence isn't referring to Germany, but to Turkey.

Immigrants are waving hundreds of Turkish flags and the chanting and the music are deafening. One woman shouts "Turkey is great!" into a microphone to cheers from the crowd. Everyone in the ISS Dome, a huge sports and concert venue, is fired up, as if they're waiting for a rock star. There's only one show in town this Sunday, and his name is Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

The Turkish prime minister has come to Germany. He wants to meet Chancellor Angela Merkel but first he wants to speak to his "compatriots." To people who have been living in Germany for decades, who were born here, and of whom many have German passports.

They have come from all over Germany to see him live, some 10,000 people. They say things like: "The Germans will never accept us, but we have Erdogan." Or: "At last someone feels responsible for us, for the first time a Turkish prime minister isn't forgetting his compatriots abroad." One woman says: "Erdogan may get Merkel to see us as part of this society. He is our savior."

Some 3 million people of Turkish origin live in Germany, most of them descendants of Turks invited by the government in the 1950s and 1960s as " guest workers" to make up for a shortage of manpower after World War II. [...]

Erdogan wants to give his audience a clear identity. "They call you guest workers, foreigners, or German Turks. It doesn't matter what they all call you: You are my fellow citizens, you are my people, you are my friends, you are my brothers and sisters!"

"You are part of Germany, but you are also part our great Turkey," says Erdogan....

He warns Turks against assimilating themselves. "Yes, integrate yourselves into German society but don't assimilate yourselves. No one has the right to deprive us of our culture and our identity."

Erdogan knows that this statement amounts to a provocation in Germany -- no politician here is demanding that Turkish immigrants should deny their roots or give up their culture. Erdogan adds: "German newspapers will pick up on this tomorrow, but that's a mistake."

His message to devout Muslims is similar. "Islamophobia should be seen in the same way as anti-Semitism," he says....

Of course, Islamic jihad is real and the Jewish world conspiracy isn't, but that doesn't stop Erdogan.

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Europe, which is under conquest from the increasingly Arab/Turkish Muslim-controlled Western Left; through the Nazi-like Muslim Brotherhood agents. They even controlled the Green Party, like in Germany here - which is now more concerned about bringing in more Arabic-Turkish Muslim refugees than being concerned about the environment! Walking through Ludwigshafen and Mannheim in Germany is like walking through Arabic/Turkish-ruled streets! See - http://www.thelocal.de/politics/20110215-33107.html
Politicians bicker over Tunisian refugees
Published: 15 Feb 11 08:56 CET
.....Meanwhile Green party co-leader Cem Özdemir told daily Rheinische Post that the EU must distribute the number of refugees fairly across member states. “The north can’t leave the south alone on this,” he said.
Centre-left Social Democratic interior policy expert Sebastian Edathy told daily Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung that the EU desperately needs a quota rule to spread the burden of the refugees across the continent.

if these turkish immigrants think turkey is so swell, what the hell are they living in Germany? they need to go now back to their failed islamic state! Germans are getting paybacks for inviting the enemy within their country.

Because they like the beer.

I recon he should have told them:
"You obviously love Turkey, and you sure as hell don't belong here, you have had a good run till now and sucked it dry.
They are smarter than we are and the games up after all these years and I know you understand, they won't accept nonsense like islam without war in the streets.

Therefore I have come her to tall you, remaining in Germany for a such a false cause is pointless. Better you grab your cash and pack your bags and come home to Turkey, quit while you are ahead, lest they get really crapped off with you and send you walking home Euroless"


Multicultural is fine, but islam and its followers does not make the grade to be included in such a plan

"Erdogan may get Merkel to see us as part of this society. He is our savior."

What is this woman saying? If you won't assimilate then you can never be part of German society.

Why should Merkel see you as part of German society after Erdogan has all but told you that you should maintain an identity apart from other Germans?

What if Merkel sees you as part of German society? Do you see yourselves that way? Do you want to?

They stayed for the beer? Isn't that unislamic?

Naughty Turks! They actually assimilated. Does Erdogan know?

Turkey is 99.8 % muslim country preaching multiculturalism to others.

TURKEY: from ERBAKAN* (* died yesterday) to ERDOGAN

- the same political imperative to Islamize Turkey, Europe, the World, and to restore the Caliphate.


ERBAKAN:

"became Prime Minister in 1996,... becoming the first devout Muslim to hold the office in modern Turkey."

(Wikipedia.)

Erbakan set up the 'MILLI GORUS' organization:

"Necmettin Erbakan's ideology is set forth in a manifesto, entitled Millî Görüş (National View), which he published in 1969. The Islamist organisation of the same name, which he founded and of which he is the leader, upholds nowadays that the word 'national' is to be understood in the sense of monotheistic ecumenism.

"A mainstay of the religious wing of Turkish politics since the 1970s, Erbakan has been the leader of a series of Islamist political parties that he founded or inspired that have risen to prominence only to be banned by Turkey's secular authorities."

(Wikipedia.)

Of course, Milli Gorus organization had spread with Islamic Turks into the rest of Europe, notably into Germany and France.

Here's an indication of that in this (2005) article:

"The Muslim Brotherhood's Conquest of Europe"

http://www.meforum.org/687/the-muslim-brotherhoods-conquest-of-europe

And the threat inside the European Union is growing, as Hugh Fitzgerald commented a couple of years ago:

"A Turkish Future for Lorraine"

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/19800

And now, ERDOGAN, (who is attending the funeral of his Islamic mentor, Erbakan) will no doubt continue the work of Milli Gorus, if he is allowed to get away with it.


If they're all part of Turkey, as Erdogan says, he should take them all back to Turkey. Don't tell me that Deutschland will have a labor shortage if there are no gastarbeiters.

A foreign PM comes into a country and, to a large rock star welcome, preaches that his expats are still pats but should stay in the foreign country? Why didn't he just make an announcement that they are the Deutshcland Corps of the Caliphate Foreign Legion, Turkish Branch?

Is it not treason (towards Germany) that he is preaching, encouraging and directing???

I thought that Muslim countries demanded that you fit in when visiting or living there? The Armenians didn't fit in so the Turks murdered over two million of them.

The lyric keeps echoing around the hall in Düsseldorf. "The land belongs to us all." The sentence isn't referring to Germany, but to Turkey.
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Well, yes—it is damn disturbing that Turks, after living so long in Germany—generations, in many cases—still identify primarily with Turkey. But I wouldn't discount Muslim sights on Germany and the rest of Europe, either.

Here is an excellent article on the matter from Hugh Fitzgerald:

"Fitzgerald: Ayatollah Khomeini and Fethullah Gulen"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/fitzgerald-ayatollah-khomeini-and-fetullah-gulen.html

Fethullah Gülen is a Turkish Muslim preacher who not only wants to see Turkey fully Islamized—Erdogan has been doing 'fine work' in that regard—but the West, as well, starting with Germany.

More:

Immigrants are waving hundreds of Turkish flags and the chanting and the music are deafening. One woman shouts "Turkey is great!" into a microphone to cheers from the crowd.
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Sorry to be so crude, but if Turkey is so f*cking great, why did you have to emigrate to civilized Germany?

This is hardly the first time Erdogan has made such pronouncements to Turkish emigrants. Here he is, from three years ago:

"Turkish PM to Muslims in Germany: 'Assimilation is a crime against humanity'"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/02/turkish-pm-to-muslims-in-germany-assimilation-is-a-crime-against-humanity.html

Would it be a surprise to hear some of those same antisemites say that the Jews are behind the jihadists?No!

Ummm...Perhaps you haven't heard, Recep, that Angela recently declared that multiculturalism in Germany is a failure. In case you didn't know, she was referring to your precious compatriots from Turkey. Or maybe you heard and are taunting her. This would be like the president of Mexico coming into the U.S. and telling Mexican-Americans not to assimilate.

Your move, Angela. Show Erdogen it's really not smart to play this kind of game. As Chancellor, you have the bully pulpit. Use it to inform Turkish-Germans that assimilating is not optional. And to drive the point home demand, DEMAND, a public apology from Erdogen for "insulting Germanness," expel the Turkish Ambassador to Germany and recall the German Ambassador to Turkey for "discussions," and announce that Germany is permanently withdrawing from any discussions concerning Turkey's application for membership in the EU.

Maybe if she did this, it would snowball and other countries would follow suit.

"Sorry to be so crude, but if Turkey is so f*cking great, why did you have to emigrate to civilized Germany?"

That's because the German barbarians have much better science, technology, economy and general living standards than any civilized Islamic paradise. But that must be a result of colonialism, of western choke hold on the ummah, and above all of a grand Zionist conspiracy. Can't possibly be a result of how the Muslims run their places. Bad management never causes failure, only oppression does. So if they would only expel America, reject all western influence and destroy Israel the caliphate would go back to its golden age of glory. And then they'll have German gastarbeiters, living on Islamic dole (right).

Muslims are emigrating to colonize not assimilate. Their loyalty is to islam and the country of their birth, they are simply practicing "hijra" immigration jihad as commanded.

Muslims don't emigrate to assimilate & contribute, they emigrate to colonize and get what they can from the infidel.

KATHARINA.

We in the North are worried - very worried.

We can´t take more people from the ME.

Denmark is a small country and the Palarabian moslems gives us HUGE problems!

3/4 of all the prisoners, in the prisons, are muslims and most of them are from the ME!

Out here in every days life they don´t work and most of them don´t speak and write an understandable danish.

They cost the danes a hell of lot of money - and they have plenty of children.

What are we going to do when we, the Danes, can´t work enough money home to the country -I don´t know.

But I know : NO MORE MUSLIMS to my country !

"You are part of Germany, but you are also part our great Turkey," says Erdogan....

I seem to remember Hitler talking about a "Greater Germany", but then sociopaths are all the same, a singularly unoriginal group if there ever was one.

. "Islamophobia should be seen in the same way as anti-Semitism," he says....
This stupid Erdogan should take this simple test:
The Islamophobia Test of Lorna Saltzman.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/are-you-islamophobe.html

He warns Turks against assimilating themselves. "Yes, integrate yourselves into German society but don't assimilate yourselves. No one has the right to deprive us of our culture and our identity.

He might as well tell them to infiltrate German society at every level; establish no-go zones where sharia can be practiced without interference; don't socialize with the filthy infidels but take all you can get from them; breed, breed, breed; and one day, Germany will be part of the global islamic empire. That's the plan and I hope the Germans know it. I notice he didn't invite them home to Turkey; wonder why?

If they want to maintain their filthy culture and Turkish identities, they should be living in Turkey, not Germany. The Turks aren't multiculturalists, just typical muslim hypocrites. They want no part of Christians, Jews, Hindus or atheists in Turkey but they demand that every Western nation accept millions of primitive, retrograde muslim savages and allow them to live in parallel societies.

"Turkey" and their sister country Turkmenistan were FOUNDED on the invasion/immigration of Turks and genocide of native people (Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Assyrians and Persians). Anyone that allows them to do this again is full of shit brained idiots.

The "know it all" Germans have brought all of this upon themselves. They've got their multi-cultural and diverse society and now all demographic studies conclude that by 2030 all major German cities will have majority Muslim populations. In 2005 a reprint of Hitler's "Mein Kampf' ("My Struggle") was the #1 best selling book in Turkey. Since most Muslims in Germany are Turks and they appear to have an unhealthy interest in Hitler. What does this have say about the future of a Muslim dominated Germany late in this century?

What worries me is WHY Merkel invited him. Something to do with Turkey's admittance to the EU ? A backpedal on 'multikulti has failed.' ? God, I hope not. If Turkey is let into the EU, then Europe really IS doomed.

"Germany hits back after Turkish PM tells immigrants to resist assimilation"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/28/turkish-pm-addresses-immigrants-germany

Indeed, one of the Mega rats is now dead.

This sick man was the semipresident of turkey back in 1974 when turkey invaded Cyprus, killing, raping, burning buildings, stealing, occupying the northern part which hosts so many criminals (no arrests possible).

Doom and Gloom wrote:

Sorry to be so crude, but if Turkey is so f*cking great, why did you have to emigrate to civilized Germany?"
...

That's because the German barbarians have much better science, technology, economy and general living standards than any civilized Islamic paradise. But that must be a result of colonialism, of western choke hold on the ummah, and above all of a grand Zionist conspiracy. Can't possibly be a result of how the Muslims run their places.
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Oh, I understand this very well, Doom and Gloom. I just get so tired of Muslims flocking to the civilized lands of Dar-al-Harb, then endlessly criticizing them and hell-bent on transforming them into the same sort of Muslim pits that they fled from in the first-place.

Of course, living in Israel, I realize you must be twice as sick of this phenomenon as I am...

Surprise! Surprise! If it's not clear what road Turkey is now on and their destination then he/she is either uninterested or sticking their heads in the sand. That Turkey should/could be part of Europe is absolute NONSENSE!! Like it or not the non-Muslim world is on an epic collision course with Islam whom cannot get along with anyone - they even kill each other (Shi/Sunni) like flies...one can only pity Muslims, but NEVER allow them to triumph (by whatever means free people must use) least we return to the very dark ages indeed!!

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