Gary Smith was not proselytizing; he was just teaching a world religions course. But for Akmol Hussein, Sheikh Rashid, Azad Hussain, and Simon Alam, such a distinction is so exceedingly fine as not to matter at all. And non-Muslims who proselytize for their religions among Muslims face a death penalty according to Islamic law, but these Muslims didn't kill Gary Smith; they just fractured his skull. I guess that makes them moderates. Islamic Tolerance Alert from East London. "Four men slashed teacher's face and left him with fractured skull 'for teaching other religions to Muslim girls,'" from the Daily Mail, February 21 (thanks to all who sent this in):
Four men launched a horrific attack on a teacher in which they slashed his face and left him with a fractured skull because they did not approve of him teaching religion to Muslim girls.Akmol Hussein, 26, Sheikh Rashid, 27, Azad Hussain, 25, and Simon Alam, 19, attacked Gary Smith with a Stanley knife, an iron rod and a block of cement.
Mr Smith, who is head of religious education at Central Foundation Girls' School in Bow, east London, also suffered a fractured skull....
Detectives made secret recordings of the gang's plot to attack Mr Smith prior to the brutal assault.
Yet they didn't give him protection sufficient to head off the assault? Why not?
The covert audio probe captured the gang condemning Mr Smith for 'teaching other religions to our sisters', the court heard.The RE teacher was targeted as he made his way on foot along Burdett Road in nearby Mile End on July 12 last year, Snaresbrook Crown Court was told.
Prosecutor Sarah Whitehouse told the court: 'The evidence from what was said on the probe points overwhelmingly to a religious motive for this attack.'
It is believed the gang had made two earlier attempts to get at the teacher.
They were due to stand trial for the attack at Snaresbrook Crown Court but pleaded guilty to causing grievous bodily harm with intent.
A fifth defendant, Badruzzuha Uddin, 23, admitted assisting the thugs by hiding blood-stained clothing....
If there are any trolls lurking around, can you produce any text from Al Qur'an that states unequivocally that what these Muslims did to a non-Muslim was not justified according to Islam?
I'm dumbfounded that they did nothing to protect this man though they knew something was afoot.
Shame on each and every one of those defective detectives.
I am sure that our local taquiyya crew is so stunned by this demonstration of "misunderstanding the Qur'an" that they are still in shock and unavailable to do more than cower under their beds muttering "There's no place like Mecca, there's no place like Mecca".
When I see Muslims marching in the streets all over the world over incidents like this,as they do over cartoons, we will know the are ready to live with us....
Islamicists are enemy combatants who should be tried by the military.
Oh, why don't we lock them up in solitary for the rest of their lives and deoprt their entire families? Errrm, should have remembered. We don't have the balls to do it, and in any case, some human rights pansy would come down on their side.
Thats what we seem to pay the police for. Should someone be driving at 33 mph in a 30 mph zone, you can bet they'd come down on the driver. Likewise, any football supporter who is minding his own business and suddwenly feels the hot breath of a police horse down the back of his neck, would get sent down the nick, but when Muslims start causing trouble, these same cops run like scared rabbits.
Thats what we seem to pay the police for. Should someone be driving at 33 mph in a 30 mph zone, you can bet they'd come down on the driver. Likewise, any football supporter who is minding his own business and suddenly feels the hot breath of a police horse down the back of his neck, would get sent down the nick, but when Muslims start causing trouble, these same cops run like scared rabbits.
What did the police know and when did they know it?
Will the religious motivitation be swept under the rug?
Will the attackers receive light sentences based upon their religiously "justified" victimhood outrage at their "sisters'" religous purity being threatened by even just hearing about other religions from a public school religious education teacher?
Each day we get closer to the tipping point where the 90+ % of the U.K. population will finally stand up and say "ENOUGH!" THEN THERE WILL BE UNCIVIL WAR,unless the govt takes charge now and puts an end to Islamic supremacism!
UK: Muslims slash teacher's face and fracture his skull "for teaching other religions to Muslim girls"
Gary Smith was not proselytizing; he was just teaching a world religions course.
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Oh my God. And this happened in civilized Britain. *Londonistan*, indeed.
More:
Detectives made secret recordings of the gang's plot to attack Mr Smith prior to the brutal assault.
Yet they didn't give him protection sufficient to head off the assault? Why not?
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Damn good question. I wonder why they were following this lot to begin with. I could be wrong, but I imagine they were monitoring them for some other reason—Jihad terrorism plotting?—and considered this a secondary matter.
Of course, it is hardly secondary to Gary Smith. And it is all Jihad, in any case.
Taking action against the Muslims to prevent their attack would have brought charges of Islamophobia and ruined the careers of the police involved.
Shocking OT headline ...
"Extremist cleric to lead White House protest calling for Muslims to 'rise up and establish Islamic state in America'"
Excerpt:
A hardline Muslim cleric who sparked anger across the U.S. with his anti-American comments in a television interview this month is to hold a protest outside the White House.
British extremist Anjem Choudary - who once said 'the flag of Islam will fly over the White House' - has announced he will lead a demonstration calling on Muslims to establish the Sharia law across America.
The rally, planned for March 3, is to take place just weeks after his on-screen row with Fox News presenter Sean Hannity.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358792/Anjem-Choudary-lead-White-House-protest-calling-Muslims-rise-up.html#ixzz1EcyCy12x
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Shocking, but not surprising ...
At least in most states in the USA he could have had a concealed handgun, which would have given him a fighting chance against this group of cowardly thugs
Islam, as a system, can rely on a huge, unpaid, unseen, unorganized, individually acting, empowered to act, widely distributed group of highly motivated devout believers who are willing to kill in order to keep Islam the way it is.
Read my theory at http://islamsfatalflaw.blogspot.com/
This attack is typical of Islamic attacks on kuffars in Britain (most of which are 'motiveless' and unreported) in that the Muslims will only attack when they have overwhelming numerical superiority.
These unprovoked pack attacks on lone infidels have reached epidemic proportions and are known as 'Street Jihad'
And I suppose the motive remains an "enigma"!!!
If the police had done something to protect this man they would have opened themselves up to accusations of discrimination and Islamophobia. That is how the police work these days in the UK. They are primarily reactive when it comes to anything other than a major terrorist incident. The ordinary British citizen is basically unprotected against these people and the people who are primarily responsible are those in positions of authority who need rooting out.
Sharia law is alive and well in the UK and applies to all.
Muslims should not be allowed to live in the West. I wish someone in the U.K. could explain the advantage of muslim immigrants, name just one postive contribution they make. On the other hand, I could spend hours naming the disadvantages, incalculable expenses, and mortal dangers to the indigenous citizens posed by muslims. These three muslim pigs are probably unemployed, living on the welfare dole, and blatant enemies of the state.
It is precisely this sort of violent intolerance that is ripping the Mideast apart. Now that the Muslims have run out of lucrative conquest opportunites, they are killing each other.
"I guess that makes them moderates."
A squad, with the leadership of Zaid, Muhammad’s adopted son, caught Umm Kerfa, an old woman , undressed her, turned her upside down and then tied each of her feet by a rope, the other end of which was tied to a camel. And they beat the camels. The two camels ran in two opposite directions so she was split into two. Her head was severed as proof to all that she had died. Her beautiful daughter was given to Muhammad.
Moderates indeed!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/um-kerfa-oum-kerfa.html
Something is really wrong here. Those cannot have been real Muslims who attacked the teacher.
Real Muslims would have attacked the GIRLS for learning in the presence of a man who is not their relative. Or, even more telling, the girls should have been attacked for being in school at all.
Soon we should hear the claim from, a devout Muslim, "This is not Islam".
Why did the police do nothing?
About 10 years ago the Chief of Police at Oldham in Lancashire went public about the “Asians” setting up no-go areas in the town where they beat any white man who entered to a pulp. It was not reported it in the UK paper's but what he actually said was; “Whites are being beaten so badly and so frequently it was only a matter of time before one of them is killed”. A few months later one was killed and the left lined up to say it was not racist, just tragic and it should not be allowed to damage the wonderful diverse community.
At the time the "Asian News" reported that at a meeting at the local "Asian" community centre demands for his dismissal were greeted by loud cheering.
He was not sacked he was “retired”.
That is why.
Interestingly enough there was a letter in the same paper from an “Asian” asking “How could the police expect co-operation even with serious matters such as the beating up of a policeman if they came into the Asian areas mob-handed?” i.e. in force.
No cases of assault on individual police officers by Asians had ever been reported but what conclusion would you draw from that?
Right after 9/11 we were told that the perpetraters were a highly organized group of professional terrorists led by an evil mastermind osama bin Laden. If I still believed that was an accurate portrayal of the problem (which I never did believe, actually) I would have to think the teacher Gary Smith was attacked by Al Quaeda. Who could imagine otherwise? We should have been told right at the very outset the truth, not this Al Quaeda crap, that Muslim society contains within it, normally, numbers of individuals and small groups, loosely organized, individually acting, individually empowered to act whenever it's opportune, who will suddenly murder someone or rape someone. And it's mainstream Muslim society which harbors these persons and cliques as a normal state of affairs. It's a religion of murder and rape.
in America, this guy could have gotten a carry permit...story would have been 4 dead muslims...that's what all these filthy people need to know, unlike pansy Europe, we all own guns. Can't wait for the first muslime protest in SC...it will be their last too!
No doubt that the liberals will be defending the Islamists and the Islamofascists will get light sentences.
Defender of Islam is shocked! I tell ya!
Time to sweep the garbage from your streets EDL and BNP join forces.Clean the House and the streets
obliviously they were framed....
Downunder:
Jooolia has a great idea: how about we let the fox guard the chicken coop?
“Young Muslims to lead by example”
YOUNG Muslim leaders will be hand-picked to try to limit the spread of violent extremism in Australia.
http://sheikyermami.com/2011/02/21/jooolia-has-a-great-idea-how-about-we-let-the-fox-guard-the-chicken-coop/
SA school curriculum must include education on minority religions (read Islam)
And they do not ask for it politely. They DEMAND!
SCHOOL curriculum must include education on minority religions, the State Government has been warned.
The final report of the Taskforce on Religious Diversity demands government "leadership" in promoting social cohesion and "special attention" on youth. (source)
And let me tell you, this education is not going to be "about" Islam. It's going to be about teaching and promoting Islam.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/faith-rewrite-for-our-schools/story-e6frea6u-1226008444354
Soon coming to America...
And then beheaded.
Couldn't agree more. Deport every single one.
Here's a very incomplete list of organizations or people self-censoring, hiring bodyguards, going into hiding, or getting killed or wounded after receiving death threats and violence from Muslims following the example of Muhammad, who said there would be no punishment for murdering someone who had insulted him.
UK teacher Gary Smith (face slashed, skull fractured); the Yale University Press; the Metropolitan Museum of Art; the National Archives of Canada; director of the museum in the Hague, Wim van Krimpen; murdered Japanese translator Hitoshi Igarashi's publishers, and Japanese bookstores; Norwiegan translator William Nygaard (shot); Italian translator Ettore Capriolo (knifed); French singer Veronique Sanson; artist Molly Norris; the producers of South Park; journalist Lawrence O'Donnell; cartoonist Lars Vilks; philosopher Robert Redeker; filmmaker Theo Van Gogh (murdered); author and former member of Dutch parliament Hirsi Ali; author Salman Rushdie; Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten; and again Jyllands Posten; atheist Sabri Husibi; lyricist Javed Akhtar; cartoonist Kurt Westergaard (almost killed by a Muslim with an axe) ; the director of the film 2012; the comedian Penn Jillette; the British potter Grayson Perry; lawyer Majed Moughni; author Taslima Nasreen; disc jockey/musician Jakub Rene Kosik; Coptic Orthodox priest Zakaria Botros; pop star Deeyah; politician Shiria Khatun; Christian minister Dr. Peter Hammond; actor Omar Sharif; artist Sooreh Hera; artist Sarah Maple; Beatle Paul McCartney; also 150 Austrian Coptic Christians; also 100+ Canadian-Arab Christians; and Volvo and Ikea; countless others.
The growth of Islam means the death of civil liberties. It's time to resist in every legal way possible.
dear traeh,
you write, "The growth of Islam means the death of civil liberties. It's time to resist in every legal way possible."
i am afraid we are a little late for that, and considering the foe we are against...it is a drop in a bucket.
these savages do not obey any civilized law except their barbaric sharia.
that being said, each and every action done by these muslimes is an overt in your face act of TREASON against the very western country that unfortunately has allowed them to slither in...
even today, treason is an act which may merit the death penalty .
it might be the voice of frustrtion speaking, but this is the legal way to deal with this scum of the earth...
Buraq asks if there is anything in the Qur'an that would prohibit this attack. To be honest, the attack is out of order under shari'a law on several counts. If this were a Muslim state, then a Jew or Christian would be under the protection of the authorities. Since the UK is not a Muslim state, most shari'a rulings do not apply, but the attack would have been done without a fatwa or a prior ruling by a shari'a court or a mufti. As far as concerns the Qur'an, the issue of abrogating and abrogated verses comes into play. The only later verses that counsel violence against non-Muslims refer to jihad, and this attack was not jihad. Where Muslims are not under direct attack by non-Muslims, the duty of jihad only falls on the community, not on individuals. Although Islam does have a close connection to violence and although many Muslims today exercise this indiscriminately, the fact remains that this attack was contrary to shari'a law and to Qur'anic injunctions to treat non-Muslims well except during jihad.
dear traeh,
you write, "The growth of Islam means the death of civil liberties. It's time to resist in every legal way possible."
i am afraid we are a little late for that, and considering the foe we are against...it is a drop in a bucket.
these savages do not obey any civilized law except their barbaric sharia.
that being said, each and every action done by these muslimes is an overt in your face act of TREASON against the very western country that unfortunately has allowed them to slither in...
even today, treason is an act which may merit the death penalty .
it might be the voice of frustrtion speaking, but this is the legal way to deal with this scum of the earth...
Rocky Lore writes 'No doubt that the liberals will be defending the Islamists and the Islamofascists will get light sentences.' I'm a liberal and I have never defended an Islamist. These men deserve very heavy sentences for aggravated attempted murder. But, unlike several other posters on this site, I will not call for all Muslims to be deported, and I certainly won't demand that they all be beheaded. Nor will I ask for the EDL or the BNP to come in and drive them all out. The UK is still a democracy, and if someone has not committed a crime (i.e. the majority of Muslims) our legal system will not punish them. This may have been an Islamist attack, inspired by Islamist literature or preaching, or it may just have been the work of traditionalists acting as if they are still in Pakistan. But we have to take care that we don't become fascists ourselves, since that is the way to destroy the precious democracy we have taken centuries to build. If someone suggested deporting these four men, I would not object; but if some of their families wanted to stay, I would argue in their favour. We don't demand mass punishment for the crimes of individuals.
"The only later verses that counsel violence against non-Muslims refer to jihad, and this attack was not jihad. "
Show us where such distinctions are made from the quran.
"Where Muslims are not under direct attack by non-Muslims, the duty of jihad only falls on the community, not on individuals."
And what is direct attack? Our opposing islam itself would be considered as "direct attack".
"the fact remains that this attack was contrary to shari'a law and to Qur'anic injunctions to treat non-Muslims well except during jihad."
Again show us where in the later verses is this distinction. (And show us where pagan non muslims and polytheists are to be treated well)
The Daily Mail has bowed down to the cowardice of the Left - not once in the article they named these savage attackers/potential murderers as Muslims! I don't believe that Cameron has changed much; he's still glorifying his hero, Hussein Obama, instead of the stand-for-no-nosense Winston Churchill - UK is still bowing to Islam! Looks like the Western world is increasingly falling into the hands of the savage Arab-led Muslim conquerors (the Pakistanis and all the non-Arabs Muslims are the idiot foot soldiers; slaves to Nazi-like Arabic Imperialism through its main modern warrior, the Muslim Brotherhood). After all, Islam has always been a ‘religion’ (in reality an evil Arabic cult) of extreme savagery and conquest as created by the Arabic Pedophile rapist, robber, slave-owner (including sexual slaves such as young Jewish captive girls), and mass murderer of the Jews, Mohammed, in order to construct pure Arabian kingdom and legitimize his and his tribe’s evil Arabic socio-cultural practises!
Denis MacEoin,
I'm not even going to try to argue Western law vis a vis shari'a, but considering I was born/raised in a Western society I can offer my layman opinion.
Even highfalutin liberals with their "aggrandized", "progressive", "ideals" will eventually figure out, if they are still living, that shari'a, the defacto-given law for any muslim, is NOT in the least comparable to Western Civilizational laws and practices.
A devolvement to fascism?
I agree that it a high probability, but due only because of liberal thought, ideas and actions.
:When I stand before my judges I do so in defense of free speech and human liberty. Freedom is the source of human creativity and development. People and nations wither away without the freedom to question what is presented to them as the truth. There is reason for concern if the erosion of our freedom of speech is the price we must pay to accommodate Islam. There is reason for concern if those who deny that Islam is a problem do not grant us the right to debate the issue. I want to be able to make my case without needing to fear criminal prosecution. It is already bad enough that I have been living under permanent police protection for more than six years because jihadists want to murder me.
My trial is a political trial. It is tragic that after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989, political trials in Europe were not cast onto the ash heap of history. Former Soviet dissident Vladimir Bukovsky has previously referred to the European Union as the "EUSSR." One of his arguments is that in the EU, as in the former USSR, there is no freedom of speech.
I should be acquitted. My trial in Amsterdam is not about me, but about freedom of speech in Europe. As Dwight D. Eisenhower, Europe's liberator from Nazism, once warned, freedom "must be daily earned and refreshed—else like a flower cut from its life-giving roots, it will wither and die." Today in Europe, freedom is being neither earned nor refreshed."
Geert Wilders
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704409004576146332536459942.html
I have not seen ANYTHING yet on the MSM outlets on this story. Big surprise. As usual, I'm sure they will hope no one notices and then run some censored version when it gets around on the web and they know they have to say something. Keep us posted on how these muslim savages are prosecuted. In the UK now-a-days I wouldn't be surprised to see them get off with nothing and file a lawsuit against the teacher. Keep up the good work Robert.
I sent this story to a few lib friends. one from work. Hope it doesn't cost me my job/ I just can't stand the ignorance I see all around me as to how evil and dangerous islam is. How many more things need to be blown up before people run out of excuses?
The police should look at every book and recording and computer file these 5 C-Wads have in their homes and procecute
-every person who said something inciting of hatred or violence or condemning of other religions (which is also incitement of violence) in the posessed media.
-every person who published the material.
-every person who sold or transfered the material.
Procecute every single person involved in the media the sh** rags posess for incitement to violence, hate speach or whatever is applicable(what Guramit Singh was arrested for). It was that material that caused this.
(of course we all know the 3 books that inspired that media but no government has the guts to make those incitements to bigotry inspired violence illegal)
The government should investigate the mosques via undercover surveilance and look into closing them down and deporting or similarly dealing with anyone associated with them.
Self appointed spokesmen are always talking about dealing with these crimes thru "the community". So by their argument, if the community is the entitity that's supposed to stop this sort of thing it logically follows that that same community is guilty of inciting it.
Oops. I meant to say the government should investigate the mosques these men BELONGED TO. I did not all Mosques.
Funny how the Muslim trolls who have been hanging around JW for a while now skipped commenting on this article.
Just a few more members of the "extremely-small-minority-of-extremists" eh guys?
I read the link about McCartney. Good for him for ignoring these bastards! And how f***ing DARE they threaten to kill a Beatle! Omar Bakri Muhammad can eat it raw!
As of nov 12, 2010 Omar has been awarded room and board for life by lebanon. In one of their 5 star prisons.
The origins of the Muhammad cartoons controversy in Denmark - well, one origin - go back to a university lecturer reading from the Quran as part of lectures on Comparative Religion (I think).
Next a gang of Muslims got hold of him and beat him up well and truly.
I wonder what the reaction from our "free press" would have been if an Imam had been attacked in this manner for preaching the Koran at a Christian school.
Not that it would happen - yet.
"If this were a Muslim state, then a Jew or Christian would be under the protection of the authorities."
...Until they broke their dhimmi contract. Mr Smith was teaching religions other than Islam. This would be considered proselytising.
"The only later verses that counsel violence against non-Muslims refer to jihad, and this attack was not jihad. Where Muslims are not under direct attack by non-Muslims, the duty of jihad only falls on the community, not on individuals."
Who's to say what constitutes an attack on Islam? An invading army, oppressive laws, cartoons... all of these things could be seen as attacks on Islam. Their duty is not to defend their community or their lives, but their religion.
Islam was never created to be a minority religion, living as it does in the UK as a minority faith. Therefore the mindset possessed by these men - that they should use any force necessary against anyone who causes others to question Islam - is entirely Islamic. It comes from Islamic thinking. It is the same 'reasoning' used by Pakistanis who wish to see Asia Bibi executed for blasphemy. Only the details are different.
Mandatory life sentences, including the gutless scum cops who allowed it to happen.
Denis I don't think it makes any difference if the attack was jihadist motivated or not, the fact is it was perpetrated by people who are totally against our mores behaviours and traditions in the UK, and who planned this insult to British laws and behaviour. They are by no means alone.
I must say that your views as a self-proclaimed liberal are at odds with those of many ordinary non-Muslim Brits, who also consider themselves tolerant and liberal, but quite rightly see the need for assertiveness when they feel their own self-determination as a nation, and their culture is threatened. You too must be aware of how multiculturalism is failing this country. You must surely be aware that this is because too many liberals "embrace diversity" with the overriding belief that this tolerance will "rub off" on those who have been allowed to enter this country because of "liberal" open borders policy encouraged by people like yourself, and forced upon the people of the UK by stealth.
We ordinary non-Muslim Brits are paying financially and otherwise for the influx of such Muslims into the UK, and our own laws and statutes are being overidden by the European liberalist structure, meaning murderers, rapists, paedophiles and jihadis are being given a free pass to milk the system as much as they like. If as you say, you would welcome the families of Muslims who have the propensity to disregard our laws and who have no means to support themselves, into the UK, then it ought to be up to liberal people like yourself to pay for their upkeep, not the ordinary hard working non-Muslim Brits. That, also, is not "fascism" but it is fair, in this time of financial constraints.
There has to be a line in the sand, before it is too late. How many more attacks like these (and there have been many, many the media has not seen fit to report) before people like you realise this liberalist attitude is just not working? Your view that deporting people is "fascist" is very telling. So many Brits (including myself) see stopping immigration is anything but fascist - it's simply self-preservation of our culture and way of life. The fascists are the neo-liberals who have imposed this shift from much of what we hold dear, on us, without our consent, and have used the laws they promoted against anybody who disagrees with their "take".
Denis I don't think it makes any difference if the attack was jihadist motivated or not, the fact is it was perpetrated by people who are totally against our mores behaviours and traditions in the UK, and who planned this insult to British laws and behaviour. They are by no means alone.
I must say that your views as a self-proclaimed liberal are at odds with those of many ordinary non-Muslim Brits, who also consider themselves tolerant and liberal, but quite rightly see the need for assertiveness when they feel their own self-determination as a nation, and their culture is threatened. You too must be aware of how multiculturalism is failing this country. You must surely be aware that this is because too many liberals "embrace diversity" with the overriding belief that this tolerance will "rub off" on those who have been allowed to enter this country because of "liberal" open borders policy encouraged by people like yourself, and forced upon the people of the UK by stealth.
We ordinary non-Muslim Brits are paying financially and otherwise for the influx of such Muslims into the UK, and our own laws and statutes are being overidden by the European liberalist structure, meaning murderers, rapists, paedophiles and jihadis are being given a free pass to milk the system as much as they like. If as you say, you would welcome the families of Muslims who have the propensity to disregard our laws and who have no means to support themselves, into the UK, then it ought to be up to liberal people like yourself to pay for their upkeep, not the ordinary hard working non-Muslim Brits. That, also, is not "fascism" but it is fair, in this time of financial constraints.
There has to be a line in the sand, before it is too late. How many more attacks like these (and there have been many, many the media has not seen fit to report) before people like you realise this liberalist attitude is just not working? Your view that deporting people is "fascist" is very telling. So many Brits (including myself) see stopping immigration is anything but fascist - it's simply self-preservation of our culture and way of life. The fascists are the neo-liberals who have imposed this shift from much of what we hold dear, on us, without our consent, and have used the laws they promoted against anybody who disagrees with their "take".
Denis Maceion sez: "If this were a Muslim state, then a Jew or Christian would be under the protection of the authorities"
Like in Saudia Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia and Yemen and other Muslim states?.....Muslim states track record on protection of non Muslims is rather poor...
Denis Maceion further states: "Since the UK is not a Muslim state, most shari'a rulings do not apply,..."
Since the UK is not a Muslim state, why do any Shari'a rulings apply?...
They should hang, that would discourage future jihadists...
Denis Maceion states: "The UK is still a democracy, and if someone has not committed a crime (i.e. the majority of Muslims) our legal system will not punish them."
Unless you point out the Violence the Muslims commit is actually condoned by the Qur'an...the Muslim holy book...
Denis Maceion states: "But we have to take care that we don't become fascists ourselves, since that is the way to destroy the precious democracy we have taken centuries to build. "
You will lose your "precious democracy we have taken centuries to build" when you start allowing foreign laws to govern people in your country...as is happening now with Shari'a law being permitted...Any county with conflicting laws is destined to have serious problems....
It's not "fascist" to restrict immigration. People do NOT have an absolute right to move from country to country, or from poor countries to rich ones, nor do they have a right to expect rich countries to support their arses.
In fact, it was awful damn fascist of people like you to impose mass immigration and multicultural policies (with their attendant wearing effect on free speech) on Western countries in the first place.
I'd still like to know why non-white, non-Western pisspot countries don't need "cultural enrichment" from us, but we need it from them.
"But we have to take care that we don't become fascists ourselves, since that is the way to destroy the precious democracy we have taken centuries to build. "
Sign/notice in a muslim shop window 2 miles from me during the general election. An area non-muslims including a business associate were "encouraged to leave" 10 years ago;
"DEMOCRACY IS NOT ISLAMIC"
As to the protection of shria law.
In 2003 Ann Cryer MP was approached by the parents of under age girls being used by muslims in Keithly because the police refused to act. Where was the protection of British law then one may ask?
She asked a muslim councillor friend to approach the local mosque elders about the situation she could not do so herself. Because she was white, female and non-muslim they would not see her. Sharia law?
The answer that came back from the mosque was it was not their problem if they do not want their daughters to be molested they should dress modestly as Pakistani girls do.
Looks like your interpretation of the protection afforded to kuffurs by koran is at odds with the mullahs of Keightly.
These people do not need a court of law, Deportation of them and there entire family. All those from the islamic animal kingdom who disagree throw them out with the rest of the garbage.
For the Love of God, when are WE the People going fight for our Freedom Again.......
The attackers should be put to death!!
Just a tad OT...
I've read a number of postings in this venue regarding the so-called, "no-go" zones in the UK. My British cousins, you may wish to recall our (US) experience with situations such as Ruby Ridge and the "Davidian" compound; exclusionary places that enforced their isolation by force of arms.
I would bet real money that, were these enclaves investigated, arms caches would be found in abundance.
Just a thought.
Sounds perfectly normal for the British p.c. police. They're quite good at bullying motorists though.
Mac,
Man, that was a pretty epic attention-to-detail fail. I responded to Whatsso Forme who wrote "Islamicists are enemy combatants who should be tried by the military." He didn't say "All Muslims."
I'm pretty sure he meant the guys who waged JIHAD on the face and skull of this poor educator. Indeed, Sir, after they're done seeing a military court (or a BNP court) as enemy combatants I'm in favor of the guillotine for these men, as well as all jihadists... NOT all Muslims.
As for deporting all Mahoundians, you've got me there. I'm un-apologetically in favor of that, as are many others here who are steadfast in their love and defense of Western civilization.
Long live the resistance.
Inspiring post. You can really feel it when someone is truly, TRULY, fed up and ready to take concrete, substantial action.
I with you, unapologetic and without reservations.
Thanks for posting that. Some news or inspirational words from the freedom fighter Geert should show up on every thread.
NOT the BNP, who are racist Holocaust deniers. EDL and the British Freedom Party !!
NOT the BNP, who are racist Holocaust deniers. EDL and the British Freedom Party !!
If so, good call. And EDL court, then.