Problems generated by Islamic "hate speech" (to borrow a fashionable term) and those who act on it set up an interesting sort of game of "rock-paper-scissors" when it comes to liberal causes.
We have already seen that, in practice, Islam beats feminism (no pun intended) when the two come into conflict. Even the most basic women's rights are off the table when defending them runs the risk of offending delicate sensibilities, and it is taken for granted much more easily that women who are oppressed according to Western standards are actually "happy" as participants in their "cultural heritage."
Next up: homophobia! Who will win when that issue comes into conflict with the desire, at once sanctimonious and fear-driven, to accommodate and placate an increasingly strident, aggressive, and supremacist Muslim population in Britain? So far, the latter camp has the upper hand, as those hell-bent on "tolerance" at any cost accept the lies of groups like the East London Mosque with grateful relief.
"East London Mosque keeps on lying," by Andrew Gilliagan for the Telegraph, February 26 (thanks to Ken):
The East London Mosque, that legendary home of tolerance and moderation, has condemned a series of posters which have appeared in its local area, Tower Hamlets, containing a Koranic invocation and declaring the borough a “gay-free zone.” Dilowar Khan, the mosque’s director, was quoted in a council press release saying: “We stand together with our fellow citizens against all forms of hatred, including homophobia. We are committed to building strong and cohesive communities in Tower Hamlets, and our strength is that we will not let incidents of hate divide us.”
As so often, however, the East London Mosque speaks with forked tongue. Yesterday, it was due to demonstrate its deep commitment to “standing together against homophobia” by hosting a gala dinner with one Uthman Lateef, a homophobic preacher who has stated: “We don’t accept homosexuality… we hate it because Allah hates it.”
Mr Lateef is one of at least half a dozen homophobic preachers hosted or promoted by the East London Mosque, three of whom have been officially invited to deliver the Friday sermon. In 2007, as my Dispatches programme on the East London Mosque disclosed, a “Spot The Fag” contest was staged at the mosque. In recent years, there has been a sharp rise in homophobic hate crimes in Tower Hamlets – something which simply cannot be unconnected to the fact that hatred of gay people is allowed to be openly and regularly expressed inside one of the area’s most prominent institutions.
The technique of saying one thing designed to appeal to white liberals, while in fact doing the exact opposite, has been brought to a fine pitch by Islamists generally, and the East London Mosque in particular. The mosque’s idea of “standing against hatred” involves hosting literally dozens of hate, extremist and terrorist preachers on its premises – most famously, the al-Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki. It now claims to have banished hate preachers from its building – but, as this blog has documented, continues to welcome them almost every month.
Why does the East London Mosque tell such obvious lies? Simply, because lies work. There is a part of liberal white society which would rather ignore or deny the problem of extremism, hatred and bigotry in some parts of some Muslim communities. The lies give them a form of permission to do so.
In that same council press release, the chairs of the Rainbow Hamlets LGBT Community Forum, a local gay group, condemned the anti-gay posters but added: “We also condemn those who use these incidents to create a moral panic and stoke up racist or Islamophobic sentiment. At present the people responsible cannot be accurately determined, but it is clear that whoever is responsible, they do not represent any of the local communities.”
It was an army of clones from a decades-old, top-secret DARPA project to replicate Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and Oral Roberts (they got into the U.K. on student visas -- it's pretty easy!), goose-stepping through Tower Hamlets while menacingly humming that well known melody ("kill the wabbit") from the Ride of the Valkyries.
I mean... what else could it be?
This statement contains at least one palpable untruth, one questionable assumption, and one dubious elision. As any gay man in Tower Hamlets will tell you, and numerous victims of homophobic hate crime in the area have told me, “the people responsible” can be perfectly “accurately determined:” the hostility towards gay people in the borough comes largely from young Bangladeshis.
It seems rather unlikely that posters quoting the Koran were put up by evangelical Christians, yuppies, brogue-wearing trendies or members of the white working class, the other main parts of the Tower Hamlets community. And given the anti-gay activities allowed inside the area’s largest Muslim institution, and the expression of sentiments there almost exactly identical to those on the posters, it’s also hard to know how the LGBT Forum can be quite so confident that the posters are entirely unrepresentative of any of the local communities....
Read it all.
East London is plagued with these 'Street Jihad' attacks, where large packs of feral Muslims attack individual or small groups of gays. Like all street-jihadists in Britain, they only attack where they vastly outnumer their prey: http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/violent-muslim-homophobia-jihad-against.html
and http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2010/01/muslim-street-jihad.html
A must watch:
France in Civil war:Dangerous Muslim enclaves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1fcgSvu6xM
The East London Mosque, that legendary home of tolerance and moderation, has condemned a series of posters which have appeared in its local area, Tower Hamlets, containing a Koranic invocation and declaring the borough a “gay-free zone.”
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Can you imagine the outcry—rightly so—if some other group, say Christians, were to proclaim such a thing?
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In 2007, as my Dispatches programme on the East London Mosque disclosed, a “Spot The Fag” contest was staged at the mosque.
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This is *terrifying*. You can be sure that this is not just some bitchy, "politically-incorrect" lark. It will likely lead to harassment at best, and violent assaults at worst...
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In recent years, there has been a sharp rise in homophobic hate crimes in Tower Hamlets – something which simply cannot be unconnected to the fact that hatred of gay people is allowed to be openly and regularly expressed inside one of the area’s most prominent institutions.
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Yup—as I said...
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The technique of saying one thing designed to appeal to white liberals, while in fact doing the exact opposite...
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Very, very dangerous. The image that comes to mind is the scene from the film "Mars Attacks!" where genocidal Martians hunt down humans with ray guns, all the while incongruously screeching, "We come in peace! We come in peace!".
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Why does the East London Mosque tell such obvious lies? Simply, because lies work.
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And why do they work, with otherwise relatively intelligent people? Because white liberals *so desperately want to believe them*.
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In that same council press release, the chairs of the Rainbow Hamlets LGBT Community Forum, a local gay group, condemned the anti-gay posters but added: “We also condemn those who use these incidents to create a moral panic and stoke up racist or Islamophobic sentiment...
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I was waiting for the all-too-predictable conflation of virulent homophobia with "Islamophobia"...
The presence of Muslims in British cities resembles an infestation of vermin. Their effects on surrounding communities, and the country as a whole, are negative in every respect.
The success of a fictive reality hinges on how well it handles cognitive dissonance: the dissonect between what is seen and what is accepted as real.
To pull off and later maintain a good solid fictive reality requires these things:
1) Don't deny that the dissonance exists, everybody can feel it when it happens. Instead, boldy attribute it to those who complain about it. Spencer's constant onsluaght of vetted facts unkind to Moslems is cuz he's a hater, and a money grubber who actually made $135K one year. Oh, the crime.
2) Use entity naming in such a way that it becomes difficult to process through logical analysis. Liberalism is a tough nut to criticize cuz its word root is liberty, and what could be wrong with that? Or using the the words enacted, passed and law to describe Obamacare when it is nothing of the sort. Read Article I Section 7 and that much is apparent.
3) Lie by misrepresentation. My personal fave is the old yarn about how the Islam means peace when again the word never meant anything of the sort. Salami, salamit, baloney. And salaam I great you with a Trojan Horse, which may or may not shit all over your language.
4) Build a team that works to make others accept your false perceptions, explanations and definitions as true. Now, think about Moslems and Islamic scripture, and think of these things: the professoriate, grade school teachers, judges, trial lawyers, legislators, priests, rabbis, news entertainers, newspapers, military brass, the AP, Reuters...
That's quite a team.
5) Each component of the team must leverage personal or institutional prestige. How many Ivy League Morons have worked tirelessly the last decades to soften dissonace speaking their standard vocabularies? A lot.
6) Do this freuqently and broadly enough, and the team beings to self-orchestrate. Repetition and broad acceptance and becomes effectively real. For exsmple, what if a detailed array of facts were put over that Africans aren't as smart as whites. Feel a twinge when you read that? That's how fictive realities are born in an individual.
7) The final step is to enforce self-censorship. Try talking about Aisha, Banu Qurayza, Kinana and other topics at the water cooler at work. Wait a few hours or days, and suffer the punishment. Now that's censorhip that'll turn you into a self-censorer pronto. And you don't even need a mention on Rachel Maddow to feel the enforcement.
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We will indeed make smooth for him the path to Misery.
Who's we? Who's him? What's smooth?
We must always know the information that show Islam is not true.We must know how to answer to imams,mullahs in a debate.That way they wont laugh at us.
Read:
"Evidence of the Strong Probability a Verse of the Koran,about Stoning,was Taken Out,Proving Islam to be False."
http://www.antisharia.com/2011/02/27/evidence-of-the-strong-probablity-a-verse-of-the-koranabout-stoning-was-take-outproving-islam-to-be-false/
Also read
answeringmuslims.com
answering-islam.org
faithfreedom.org
avraidire.com
(in French and English,one can translate the French with Google Translate,by copying and pasting.)
"At present the people responsible cannot be accurately determined, but it is clear that whoever is responsible, they do not represent any of the local communities.”
Said the condemned to the executioner.
eastlondonlines February 17th 2011
http://www.eastlondonlines.co.uk/2011/02/residents-protest-to-fight-anti-gay-posters/
A police investigation is ongoing, though it has been suggested that the culprits may not be an Islamic group, but a third party looking to stir up community tensions. Jack Gilbert is co-chair of Rainbow Hamlets, the LGBT organisation for the borough. While Mr. Gilbert felt it inappropriate to comment on an ongoing investigation, he did say: “The reality is, whoever this extreme grouping or small number of individuals are, their purpose is simply to cause trouble.”
Well, it couldn't be adherents of tolerant Islam could it? Perhaps we can point the media at the EDL, but if all else fails, we can accuse the Jews (sorry, Zionists)
Homophobic posters which have appeared in recent months are to be systematically replaced tomorrow...
The original stickers declare the area “a gay free zone”. Posted around gay venues in Shoreditch, on Whitechapel High Street and outside a school, they say: “Arise and warn. Gay free zone. Verily Allah is severe in punishment.”
“Upset and appalled” by the sentiment, a group of friends have decided to publicly protest at the stickers and their apparent agenda. The event is called “Help Yourself to Some Love,” but is being referred to by many in the media as “Love Bombing”.
The protest has met with some controversy however, with suggestions that the event is just empty rhetoric, or that the use of the phrase “Love Bombing” is an Islamaphobic reference to alleged involvement from religious groups.
I expect that use of the word "Bombing" is just too clear a reference to Islam in everyone's mind.
MUST WATCH VIDEO
Children of Terror
Highly Recommended!
Reposted after being unavailable for six months
This film deals with the militant madrassas in Sudan often inhabited by the orphans of the jihad in southern Sudan, Darfur, Nigeria and Chad. Here, the men are usually enslaved or killed; the women, if not killed, are taken north and sold after enduring sadistic rapes. But the children are often kidnapped and deported to terrorist training camps, where they are brainwashed into the Islamic ideology of hate and trained for military warfare against non-Muslims and the west. When they finish their schooling they are sent back home or abroad to establish sleeper cells and await orders from religious leaders.
http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2011/02/children-of-terror.html?utm_source=BP_recent
I'm afraid the Rainbow Hamlets LGBT Community Forum will be in for a lot more gay-bashings in the neighborhood. Whenever I read about happenings in Britain I cannot believe how far down a certain road they have gone. It's obvious things will have to get a lot worse before these people realize the situation is out of control and finally speak forthrightly. Anyone who does so now is under threat of physical attack by Muslims and verbal attack as a racist by the Left.
I still think that all over the world the key is the media. But how can the media be reformed? Actually, it's getting worse; oil wealth is buying up the media, which means mind-control and attacks on anyone dissenting from the standard line.
Maybe this is because white Anglo Leftists (I refuse to dignify them with the name "liberal"--let that stick with the line of people from Roger Williams to Lord Acton to Friedrich Hayek) are a fundamentally ignorant and credulous bunch, regardless of the side of the ocean on which they live.
Only a philobarbarian Leftist willfully ignorant of the Old and New Testaments could fall for the suggestion that Muhammad carries on the line of biblical prophecy--especially when Muslim clerics discourage the reading of the Old and New Testaments, charging that these have been "corrupted". And, the hatred the Left bears for its own forebears is evident in how they've taught the rest of us to speak of the "prophet" Muhammad while they mock the Biblical ones.
The Left probably sees the Muslim immigrants in Europe as the next source of revolutionary cannon fodder; and buying Marx's (Karl, that is: Groucho and Harpo probably wouldn't have been such fools) nonsense about the non-Western world being a "historyless" mass save when the evolving West works on them, they can't fathom that the Muslims themselves may have an agenda which they are just waiting to spring on their current Leftist allies when the time is ripe.
BTW, Robert, have you read anything at Danial Pipes' site recently? Do you share any of his optimism about Europe?
So, young Bangladeshi immigrants are the perps in anti-homosexual crimes?
Let's be a little understanding, people. Many of these youngsters were probably sodomized by their mullahs back home, and now, when they have access to homosexual men whom they are not required to respect, they lash out. I mean, we're supposed to understand the rage of Third Worlders against white people, so why can't we underastand the rage of young Muslim males against homosexuals?
I'm afraid the Rainbow Hamlets LGBT Community Forum is like an abused woman,as he beats her,screaming,"but he loves me"!!!!.May GOD save the muslims from islam.
London police should walk hand-in-hand through Tower Hamlets, posing as (or recruiting actual) homosexuals and wait for these thugs to attack them. Then they should club the he'll out of them and ship them out of the country. Too provocative?
For some years now, the Moslem-victim card has been the top card in the deck: It trumps the Black-victim card, the female-victim card, and even the homosexual-victim card. These are still powerful cards, and can wind the hand if the Moslem-victim card has not been dealt out. But if it has, they lose.
Joe that would be proactive and the state's agents are always reactive,as was the case in Tower Hamlets with the teacher who had the audacity to teach other than islam to students, the police waited until he had been beaten.May GOD save the muslim from islam.
Joe
that is exactly the same idea as occurred to me.
It should be noted that the EDL has a LGBT division.
وَيَطُوفُ عَلَيْهِمْ وِلْدَانٌ مُّخَلَّدُونَ إِذَا رَأَيْتَهُمْ حَسِبْتَهُمْ لُؤْلُؤًا مَّنثُورًا
So, if Allah hates fags, why is it that there are 'beautiful young boys strewn like pearls'(76:20)around Paradise?
“Spot The Fag”
Did you know that Muhammad used to wear women's clothing?
That he used to wear mascara, dye his hair, have "fun" with male friends, complain to his Allah about his sexual impotency...etc.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/01/prophetess-of-islam-video.html
The reason why Western leftists don't really care about human rights abuses in the islamic 3rd world - in the context of blaming them on islam and muslims - is because the cause of "human rights" is primarily a domestic tactic they use to push their socialist worldview.
They seperate everyone into tribal-like victim groups and promise to always protect them from their evil, heterosexual, White, Christian, conservative, male, oppressors.
They then use accusations of racism, sexism, homophobia and now islamophobia as a shield to protect themselves from criticism and as a spear to thrust their agenda forward.
It's EXTREMELY effective in the West and is how the Left wins all of their elections and debates.
That's why they go absolutely ballistic when anyone from one of these supposed "victim groups" "betray" their own kind by joinging forces with the Right.
The ideological Left is also extremely self-loathing and therefore anti-Western. And since our current #1 enemy is islamists, they naturally make excuses for and defend them.
Afterall, by acknowledging that, yes indeed, both leftists and islamists are responsible for the large majority of gross human rights abuses in the world, it would mean they'd have to bash both their own leftist ideology and our enemies - two very big no-noes for the Left who dominate almost all of the well known "human rights" orgs.
Also, once the Left is done exploiting homosexuals to demonize the Right and win elections, they have to find a new victim group to leech off of - in steps the muslims...
The Left isn't going to criticize the "victim group" they plan to use as pawns next.
'Well, it couldn't be adherents of tolerant Islam could it? Perhaps we can point the media at the EDL...'
They'll have a hard time doing that, since the EDL has a lively and vociferous Lesbian/Gay Division !
I like to note the fact that in the past 50 years that I've been interested in politics nothing really has changed with stupid liberals dealing with despotic tyrants. Back in the days of the Evil Empire Nikita Khrushchev once said: "We will hang you and you will sell us the rope."