And that sums up the difference between the civilized man and the savage -- i.e., Israelis and "Palestinians." More on this story. "Jerusalem bus bombing injures 30," from Reuters, March 23:
A bomb has exploded near a bus stop in a Jewish neighbourhood of Jerusalem, injuring at least 30 people, police and medics said.Police described the explosion as a terrorist attack, Israel's term for a Palestinian strike. It was the first such bombing in Jerusalem in seven years....
"[We believe] the device weighed about one to two kilograms. It exploded in a small suitcase on the sidewalk next to the bus stop," internal security minister Yitzhak Aharonovitch told Israel's Channel 2 television.
A paramedic said he had been meeting colleagues in an office nearby to discuss the dispatch of a medical team to disaster-hit Japan when they heard a loud explosion....
One dead now...
http://www.jpost.com/
What's Oprah have to say on this?
She owes the American public an answer, because she aired an entire show on the plight of the "Palestinians" that detailed how all the lands of Israel were stolen from the innocent Bedouin by the Jews.
The bombing and the rockets are a deliberate attempt by Hamas to exploit the "awakening" in the Arab world...hoping to generating a new dynamic, one that will transform the Israeli/Palestinian conflict-equation back into the Arab/Israeli one that existed before 1979. They are counting on an Israeli response that is disproportionately destructive.
One hopes the Israelis hit back and hit back hard, but do so with precision.
Israel's field hospital should be up and running this weekend. About 50 medical personnel will be sent, along with two plane loads of emergency and medical supplies. Israel earlier responded to an urgent request for geiger counters - some 300 were provided over the past week.
In the meantime, rockets fired from Gaza are falling in Ashkelon and Beersheba, and bombs are going off in Jerusalem. And the US Administration is pressing Israel to demonstrate they're serious about peace.
"Police described the explosion as a terrorist attack, Israel's term for a Palestinian strike."
wtf?
Israel earlier responded to an urgent request for geiger counters - some 300 were provided over the past week.
This is not a good time for Israeli Jews to be loaning out theier geiger counters.
Yes I noticed that odd phrase, too.
Yeah, I was going to say the same. Is this for real or a satire? I had to check the website to make sure Robert didn't make it up. If so, IMO 9/11 terrorist attack is a US' term for Al Qaeda strike. There are no terrorist attacks, only strikes. All legitimate. If you intentionally target civilians it's just the same as when you're striking a group launching rockets at civilians. Whatever. I think we should have some "strikes" at Reuters. It's perfectly legitimate according to their own wording, and maybe it'll make them change their tune. I think maybe we should start launching "strikes" all over the world to make people aware we are angry at the injustices committed against us. Maybe we'll get some sympathy then, or at least make some of these creeps wheight their words before they open their mouths or print anything since "strikes" have proved to be so effective in this and many other regards.
Robert this article is a disgrace. Referring to 5 million people ie. Palestinians (there is no need for parentheses)as savages shows you up as a bigot. I always thought you were fair but you are turning into another cheap Muslim basher.
I disagree with you. Islam has transformed its aherents into savages, when it comes to interaction with the Kuffar. It blinds its adherents to common human decency when it comes to interacting with the Infidels.
Just what is a "Muslim basher", anyhow? I do not see Robert bashing Muslims, but simply stating the simple truths about the totalitarian, inhuman religion of Islam...
Palestinianism is the new, secular replacement theology. I really see for a long time now how everything is closing in on us and there's nothing I can do. We don't have the resources to launch such a comprehensive propaganda campaign to conuter the one that was launched against us decades ago and is coming to fruition. There are too many Muslims, too many leftists, they have too much money, too much oil, too much power in the academia and the media, too many Muslim states, too strong alliances with too many countries. It's really the entire world against Israel, even the US.
Noticed that too stasic, thought it an odd choice of wording, as if suggesting that the attacks are legitimate strikes rather than illegal acts of terrorism. Strange and depraved these reprters be.
Jerusalem jihad bombing occurred as Israelis were discussing sending medical teams to Japan
And that sums up the difference between the civilized man and the savage...
A paramedic said he had been meeting colleagues in an office nearby to discuss the dispatch of a medical team to disaster-hit Japan when they heard a loud explosion....
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Yes, this just about sums it up, indeed. Civilized people gathered to lay plans to aid other people interrupted by an act of savagery. Good thing they were on hand.
Here's another, very similar story, from just a few days ago:
"IDF, settlers save Arab baby"
"Saving life after massacre: IDF troops, paramedics save life of Palestinian woman giving birth in settlement where Fogel relatives sitting Shiva. Soldier: It felt amazing to hold girl in my arms, know we did something good"
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4043536,00.html
The medical team was on site because they were still investigating the terrible massacre of the Fogel family.
But they dropped everything when a cab sped up to the settlement. A "Palestinian" woman was in labor and needed urgent medical attention to save her life and that of her child.
The thing is, that despite the constant screams of Muslims about Israeli "brutality", they know they can *always* turn to the Jews for humanitarian aid.
"Gadi Amitun, who heads the Magen David Adom team at Neve Tzuf, said this was not the first time settlers assist Palestinians in distress."
'They know we have a skilled medical team here, and in any case of accident or injury they arrive and we help them,' he said."
Here they were, at a site where a Muslim had massacred an entire Jewish family, yet they were not bitter or reluctant to help.
Just check out the picture in the article I linked to of young IDF Corporal Haim Levin holding the newborn girl and grinning from ear to ear.
Ambulance driver Orly Schlomo said, "It was touching, but I couldn't help but think that a few meters from there, people were sitting Shiva for another baby, who was murdered," she said. "I was touched to see the face of the new baby, but I also thought about the face of the murdered baby."
The writer of the Reuters report says "...terrorist attack; Israel's term for a Palestinian strike". The writer believes the Palestinians' cause is just and they are heroic freedom fighters and therefore shouldn't be called "terrorists" because it's bad to be a terrorist and it's good to be a Palestinian. Robert Spencer instead calls them "savages". Of course he's not implying all Palestinians are savages. He's not personally familiar with all Palestinians. Neither am I. But, who knows, maybe if I did personally know all Palestinians maybe it would turn out that all of them are savages. It's possible. I don't know. I'm speaking for myself, not speaking for all non-Palestinians.
But if it's possible for five Palestinians to be savages, why would it be impossible for five million Palestinians to be savages? And, also, since when am I required to love and respect any of the five million Palestinians whom I don't personally know? I'll decide whom I love and respect. You can do the same.
There is a need for the parentheses because they are a made up nation. There was never a country called Palestine unless you refer to the ancient Philistines who lived in part of the coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza strip some 3,000 years ago, but they have extincted long before the Romans renamed Judea Palaestina (after the Philistines) to humiliate the Jews and erase the Jewish memory of the land after they crushed the last Jewish revolt. Then they joined Judea with some other lands and created a new province in their empire, Syria-Palaestina. Since then Judea/"Palestine" was always a part of some empire or another and never an independent entity with a distinct nation. In the Ottoman empire "Palestine" was a small and neglected part of a province whose capital was Damascus, it was southern Syria, like in the Roman empire. The Palestine mandate included Jordan which makes almost 4/5 of it.
The "Palestinians" are not a distinct ethnic group and don't have a distinct culture, language or national history. They are simply Arabs, part of the large Arab nation who controls 14 million square kilometers of land, 22 countries and some of the largest oil reserves in the world. The "Palestinians" come from two sources - Arabs who settled there in different periods, including quite recently, and Jews, Samaritans and Christians who were Islamized (by force) and Arabized (the Smaritans come from Hebrew ethnic-cultural-religious origins - their scriptures are written in paleo-Hebrew).
Amin al-Husseini, the so-called "father of Palestinian nationalism", who was the mufti of Jerusalem during the British mandate (he was appointed by them), didn't demand an independent state for a Palestinian nation, because there was no Palestinian nation back then. He saw "Palestine" as part of Syria, wanted to reunite it with Syria and create a large Arab state under his rule.
The Palestinian national identity was invented to counter Zionism, the claim of the Jews to the Jewish historic homeland, by creating a competing pseudo national identity, separate from the Arab nation, with a claim to the exact same land. This identity was then instilled in generations of "Palestinians", and the Arab war refugees from Israel were denied citizenships and were persecuted in all Arab countries (except Jordan) to preserve their identity and misery and use it against Israel. (The majority of Jewish refugees from Arab countries were resettled in Israel.)
The original PLO charter was written in 1964 and radically amended or re-written in 1968 after the 1967 war in which Israel captured Judea & Samaria and the Gaza Strip. Here are a few of its articles:
Article 1. Palestine is an Arab homeland bound by strong national ties to the rest of the Arab Countries and which together form the large Arab homeland.
Article 5 claims that: "The Palestinian personality is a permanent and genuine characteristic that does not disappear. It is transferred from fathers to sons."
But then article 11 says (emphasis mine): "The Palestinian people firmly believe in Arab unity, and in order to play its role in realizing this goal, it must, at this stage of its struggle preserve its Palestinian personality and all its constituents. It must strengthen the consciousness of its existence and stand against any attempt or plan that may weaken or disintegrate its personality."
Article 24 says: "This Organization does not exercise any regional sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or the Himmah Area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political and financial fields."
As you can see, before the 1967 war the PLO didn't demand the West Bank and Gaza. Why? Because they were already in Arab hands (Jordan and Egypt). It demanded only the part of the land the non-Arab Israel was founded on.
In an interview with a Dutch newspaper in 1977 a PLO member, Zuheir Mohsen, made the fatal mistake of admitting it in public. He said:
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
"For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
There are many other facts that should cast some doubt, but nobody cares about these things.
Examples of real, authentic national identites in the Middle East who don't get much attention if any: the Kurdish people, the Amazigh (Berber) people, the Nubian people, the Assyrian people. But then they are not Arab and don't have all this oil and money, so nobody cares about their right to national self determination. Obviously only Arabs have such right, in 20+ states.
Palestine?...take the taquiyya quiz:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/02/fitzgerald-taqiyya-a-quiz.html
That's the way it goes...Jews plan and take action to save people in need and Muslims plan and take action to kill those Jews....
Ya I noticed that too and I am explicative-ing furious!
Please someone, how do we respond to this gross proffessional misconduct? I DEMAND THAT REPORTER AND HIS EDITOR BE FIRED!!!
That reporter used the murder and suffering of innocent people as an excuse to slip in some sneaky anti Isreali propoganda. He tried to legitimize the deliberate murder of unsuspecting civilians by calling it a "strike". A Strike is a missile fired during a military action, not the suprise bombing of a bus!
Furthermore that bus was not a military target. Bombing a bus does not hinder the military capability of an adversary. The only goal achievable by bombing a bus is psychological. It can only possibly be terrorism.
Furthermore by using the words "Israel's term for a" the "reporter" is trying to create the illusion that Israel is different from every other country in the world. He is specifically trying to contribute to the alienation of Israel.
He is also hoping it will sneak into our heads that blowing up a bus is obviously legitimate and ONLY Israel (i.e. not the reader) would think it wasn't.
His editor absolutely knew that line was biased and should not have allowed it to go out.
I read the link. The reuters article is on ABC's australian website. There is no reporter's name given.
Just checked NYTimes and the article is there too.
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2011/03/23/world/middleeast/news-us-israel-explosion.html?_r=1&ref=world
That page lists the authors and editor (Writing by Jeffrey Heller and Crispian Balmer; additional reporting by Dan Williams, Ori Lewis and Ari Rabinovitch in Jerusalem and Mohammed Assadi in Ramallah; editing by Janet Lawrence)
Gee wiz I just wonder which reporter wrote slipped in the anti Israel propoganda.
I strongloy reccomend anyone upset by the wording of that sentence to write the NYTimes at once.
you can send them a letter by emailing letters@nytimes.com
We cannot let this sort of thing slip thru unchallenged. Let's go danish cartoon on these people! (without violence or destuction of property of course)
There, I sent a letter to the NY Times. I hope EVERYONE ELSE pissed off by that stealth propoganda does too.
Whoops! Don't email the times untill you first read their guidlines.
Letters to the editor should only be sent to The Times, and not to other publications. We do not publish open letters or third-party letters.
Letters for publication should be no longer than 150 words, must refer to an article that has appeared within the last seven days, and must include the writer's address and phone numbers. No attachments, please.
Here is the info page in case I left something out.
http://www.nytimes.com/content/help/site/editorial/letters/letters.html
Whatever about the history there is a now a group of people who regard themselves as Palestinian. There is a Palestinian national consciousness. Hamas are scumbags, many of their followers are scumbags and savages but many are fine people who want nothing but to live in peace. What about this man? http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3938310,00.html
Is he a savage?
You say you like some Palestinians but you don't like Hamas. In your opinion, what's wrong with Hamas? Imagine I am a loyal member of Hamas and try to convince me there's something wrong with Hamas. If you can, skip the obscenities.
A Palestinian Jeruselam?....
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/10/fitzgerald-a-palestinian-jerusalem.html#more
Hamas are a terrorist organisation and a part of the Muslim Brotherhood dedicated to spreading Sharia law throughout the world. What's there to like? Not every Palestinian likes Hamas.
Jews and Muslims..an Incredible Survey!
The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/07/incredible-survey-enquete-incroyable.html
Gunfire (an interesting Muslim monicker by the way)notes: "Not every Palestinian likes Hamas."
This is probably true...there are several other groups Palestinians could belong to....The Common denominators are they all hate Jews and Americans...and they all follow the teachings of the Qur'an...they all have the same goal of Islamization of the world..and each group is armed and has committed attacks on Jews and Christians and Americans and even upon each other (when their opposition is deemed not Muslim enough).
PLO
FATAH
Hamas
Islamic Jihad
al-Saiqa
PFLP
PCLP-GC
PPP - Palestinian People's Party
Fatah Revolutionary Council
The Palestinian Revolutionary Communist Party
The Palestinian Democratic Union (FIDA)
Fatah-Uprising
Palestine Liberation Front
Palestinian Popular Struggle Front
Popular Resistance Committees
Active Organization for the Liberation of Palestine (AOLP)
Hi exsarge, - I had asked mr. Gunfire to say what's wrong with Hamas, hoping he would give a reasoned refutation of the basics of the Hamas program (which includes explicit anti-Jewish & anti-America provisions, probably). But he just said they're terrorists. I'm reminded of the history of the political strategies of the reknowned Vladimir Lenin who regularly condemned terrorism and provocatory tactics, and yet he succeeded in bringing about the violent revolutionary overthrow of the Russian govt. I'm not calling mr. Gunfire a communist. I have no idea what he's up to. He probably wants to create suspicions.
Correction - renowned
Robert did not call all "Palestinians" savages. And he was right on with his contrasting behaviour that we have come to associate through many painful EXPERIENCE. Remember another contrast, Israelis like us love life (which Jihadists call "weakness", whereas jihadists love death.
You should send this information to Oprah for her comments. She has probably since moved on to some other little pet projects.